хвзз: hey
хвзз: is the script finished?
хвзз: its not,right?
>G-PB>  Xeutron: "i have no idea!" -medic
хвзз: we have to finish it ourselves then
хвзз: jc aint doing shit
>G-PB>  Xeutron: rly?
>G-PB>  Xeutron: have you been talking with winglet yet
хвзз: why
хвзз: "The Winglet: Yeah I haven't heard anything from anyone yet. I don't think anything is happening
"
>G-PB>  Xeutron: so
>G-PB>  Xeutron: i guess youre right :P
хвзз: gotta do it ourselves
>G-PB>  Xeutron: wait 20min
>G-PB>  Xeutron: have winglet
>G-PB>  Xeutron: seen ur
>G-PB>  Xeutron: scenario
хвзз: what
хвзз: I think so
хвзз: you can send it to him
хвзз: and ask him if he has some time
хвзз: we can start  group chat
хвзз: and discuss ideas
>G-PB>  Xeutron: yea
>G-PB>  Xeutron: we also dont know
>G-PB>  Xeutron: wat category we are aiming
>G-PB>  Xeutron: who will play with camera angles
>G-PB>  Xeutron: and who will make post render effects
хвзз: action
хвзз: camera angles - shouldnt it be winglet?
хвзз: post render effects - probably you
хвзз: or lugia
>G-PB>  Xeutron: i dont have photoshop for movies
хвзз: At said that there are no big names going for action
>G-PB>  Xeutron: all i do is gimp :P
хвзз: I've had it
>G-PB>  Xeutron: how about bit comedy though?
>G-PB>  Xeutron: like with lil pyro one
хвзз: comedy is ok
хвзз: doesnt have to be all action
хвзз: I'm saying
хвзз: get winglet
хвзз: lets do group chat
хвзз: and lets discuss it
>G-PB>  Xeutron: i told u
>G-PB>  Xeutron: wait 10mins
хвзз: mkay
>G-PB>  Xeutron: im not
>G-PB>  Xeutron: fulyl avaliable
>G-PB>  Xeutron: atm
хвзз: make sure that winglet will be
>G-PB>  Xeutron: oke
>G-PB>  Xeutron: oke im abaliable noaw
хвзз: k
хвзз: create the group chat
хвзз: and inv winglet
>G-PB>  Xeutron: aye alerady informed him
>G-PB>  Xeutron: gotta wiat for anwser
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хвзз: yep
>G-PB>  Xeutron: wat yep
>G-PB>  Xeutron: i dont see him here yet >.>
хвзз: me neither
>G-PB>  Xeutron: he got invite anyway :P
>G-PB>  Xeutron: i guess he is just afk fora  bit
>G-PB>  Xeutron: yea, he is away :P
хвзз: gotta wait
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хвзз: Hi there
хвзз: You're finally here
>G-PB>  Xeutron: \o/
>G-PB>  Xeutron: lets have a party (winglet alerady has a hat :P)
хвзз: heh
хвзз: So
хвзз: Lets finish the script,shall we?
>G-PB>  Xeutron: aye!
хвзз: Lugia mentioned that he wanted something along the lines of "spy is looking for enemy intel and finds his own while doing so,and he has to defend it"
>G-PB>  Xeutron: hmm
хвзз: We already have few ideas I put on paper
хвзз: you've all seen it by now
хвзз: I've been also working on the map
>G-PB>  Xeutron: i love box trot idea <3
>G-PB>  Xeutron: xD
>G-PB>  Xeutron: well
хвзз: Is Wing even here?
>G-PB>  Xeutron: ive seen many sfms with sneakin spy alerady
>G-PB>  Xeutron: dunno
The Winglet: Yeah I'm here
The Winglet: I'm just sneaky
>G-PB>  Xeutron: ninja buttstabber? O.O
>G-PB>  Xeutron: xD
The Winglet: heh
>G-PB>  Xeutron: well
хвзз: Lemme show you the current stage of the map
>G-PB>  Xeutron: aye!
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The Winglet: sure
>G-PB>  Xeutron: hmm i think that
>G-PB>  Xeutron: adding more characters on spy's team
>G-PB>  Xeutron: like scoot
>G-PB>  Xeutron: how bout dat?
>G-PB>  Xeutron: it would give more loif i guess
>G-PB>  Xeutron: and that spy & son u kno :P
>G-PB>  Xeutron: in comics they appear often really
>G-PB>  Xeutron: topgethe
The Winglet: They have a sort of love-hate relationship
хвзз: Yep
The Winglet: mostly hate
хвзз: I've created sort of room for you wing
хвзз: from where you can control stuff
хвзз: these are the same switches
хвзз: and doors ,like in that control room
хвзз: this is as far as I got
хвзз: because I cant really work further without a script
>G-PB>  Xeutron: its so dark on loif streem 4 me
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хвзз: ye,I havent really bothered with lights
>G-PB>  Xeutron: i mean brightness
хвзз: but I can turn up the brightness of environment. light
>G-PB>  Xeutron: are we going to focus whole story on one map?
хвзз: one or two
>G-PB>  Xeutron: ah, forgot time limitation >.>
>G-PB>  Xeutron: its not regular sfm :P
хвзз: doesnt matter
>G-PB>  Xeutron: winglet, have you alerady seen xb33's script?
хвзз: http://i1159.photobucket.com/albums/p629/x_biker33/20150826_204034_zps5d34buj2.jpg
хвзз: http://i1159.photobucket.com/albums/p629/x_biker33/20150827_160849_zps7x3sz42c.jpg
хвзз: there yo uhave it
хвзз: and ye
хвзз: he has already seen it
The Winglet: Yeah I have
хвзз: well,my main job is mapping,I have no experience with sfm
The Winglet: So we're going for the 5 minute catagory?
хвзз: lemme check categories again
хвзз: short Action I think
>G-PB>  Xeutron: short is less than 1min
>G-PB>  Xeutron: others are max 5min
хвзз: mhm
>G-PB>  Xeutron: and new one is up to 10
хвзз: ye well,10 is out of the question
хвзз: max 5 seems to be the best
>G-PB>  Xeutron: aye
>G-PB>  Xeutron: cus it fits multiple categories
хвзз: 1 minute,we would need an idea for that...
хвзз: ye
>G-PB>  Xeutron: winglet, do you think that hitting both action and comedy would be good idea?
>G-PB>  Xeutron: ive alerady asked xb33 but id also like to know ur opinion
хвзз: *I said that im not sure...I think
>G-PB>  Xeutron: oh
>G-PB>  Xeutron: rly? gotta scroll
хвзз: The thing is,its up to the animator and SFM guys
хвзз: I'm trying to help with script but...Im not very good at that
>G-PB>  Xeutron: aye! thats why i ask winglet :P
>G-PB>  Xeutron: tf2 has its cartoony-comedy style alerady
хвзз: ye,kind of
>G-PB>  Xeutron: thats why i think it allmost always fit well and last time
>G-PB>  Xeutron: besr overall was comedy as far as i remember
The Winglet: I think you got mixed up about the time limits
The Winglet: There's a short 1 minute
>G-PB>  Xeutron: yeah
The Winglet: And an extended 5 minute
The Winglet: and the rest are 3 minute
>G-PB>  Xeutron: oh >.>
The Winglet: Yep
>G-PB>  Xeutron: my bad >.>
хвзз: so , 3 minutes?
>G-PB>  Xeutron: daumn
The Winglet: If we can fit it into 3 minutes, its better
хвзз: its just enough for sneaking around and then action
The Winglet: because we can focus more on making it refined
>G-PB>  Xeutron: good point there
>G-PB>  Xeutron: problem is that less time we have than less avaliabilities we have to show story
хвзз: exactly
>G-PB>  Xeutron: imagine 30 secs one...
хвзз: So,conclusions thus far
>G-PB>  Xeutron: 3 camera angles and done xD
хвзз: 3 minutes,action based,good animation
>G-PB>  Xeutron: so, are we rejectin adding comedy
The Winglet: They won't be expecting much story in 3 minutes
хвзз: wait
хвзз: I didn say that
хвзз: we can allways add some comedy elemenets
>G-PB>  Xeutron: for ex i love box trot idea <3
хвзз: for example,into the background
хвзз: Comedy being the main focus...I dunno
хвзз: I mean you can allways remake the old chaplpin movies
>G-PB>  Xeutron: i dont mean main focus xD
хвзз: or tom a jerry styled cartoon
хвзз: mybe heavy being tom and scout bein jerry
>G-PB>  Xeutron: but just adding more than box trot u kno xD
хвзз: but yeha,back to the topic
хвзз: can you draw X?
>G-PB>  Xeutron: me? X yeas
хвзз: )im asking you if you can draw,not if you can draw X )
>G-PB>  Xeutron: no i dont
хвзз: (X being your name)
хвзз: well,bollocks
хвзз: I have to do draw then,eh?
>G-PB>  Xeutron: my evolution of drawing stopped on 5 lines and circle
>G-PB>  Xeutron: representing a stickyhooman
хвзз: all we need
>G-PB>  Xeutron: dunno, wingled didnt anwsered yet :P
хвзз: just make basic sketch
хвзз: I will redraw it later
>G-PB>  Xeutron: hmm
>G-PB>  Xeutron: i cant guarantee you that ill come up with some great idea AND draw it xD
>G-PB>  Xeutron: i guess second part for me is overwhelimg enough :P
The Winglet: whats this about drawing?
>G-PB>  Xeutron: that all i can is drawing a box
хвзз: well,the script  I made
хвзз: if you can draw more slides of it
хвзз: and then I will draw more,right now im out of ideas
>G-PB>  Xeutron: but what do you want to change in ur script?
The Winglet: I have no ideas of my own right now either
хвзз: nothing
хвзз: I want you to draw more pages of it
хвзз: so I can make map
хвзз: right now I have no idea which way I'm supposed to expand my map
хвзз: should I make courtyard area?
>G-PB>  Xeutron: i know what you mean by that
хвзз: Or is it gonna be in bunker
хвзз: ye
>G-PB>  Xeutron: if only i knew how to rotate dat pic >.>
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A.T: Heya
>G-PB>  Xeutron: o/
хвзз: Sup
>G-PB>  Xeutron: first of all xb33
>G-PB>  Xeutron: i guess we will have to focus
>G-PB>  Xeutron: on background story that will not appear in clip on its own
хвзз: >G-PB>  Xeutron: imagine 30 secs one...
хвзз: So,conclusions thus far
>G-PB>  Xeutron: 3 camera angles and done xD
хвзз: 3 minutes,action based,good animation
>G-PB>  Xeutron: so, are we rejectin adding comedy
The Winglet: They won't be expecting much story in 3 minutes
хвзз: wait
хвзз: I didn say that
хвзз: we can allways add some comedy elemenets
>G-PB>  Xeutron: for ex i love box trot idea <3
хвзз: for example,into the background
хвзз: Comedy being the main focus...I dunno
хвзз: I mean you can allways remake the old chaplpin movies
>G-PB>  Xeutron: i dont mean main focus xD
хвзз: or tom a jerry styled cartoon
хвзз: mybe heavy being tom and scout bein jerry
>G-PB>  Xeutron: but just adding more than box trot u kno xD
хвзз: but yeha,back to the topic
хвзз: can you draw X?
>G-PB>  Xeutron: me? X yeas
хвзз: )im asking you if you can draw,not if you can draw X )
>G-PB>  Xeutron: no i dont
хвзз: (X being your name)
хвзз: well,bollocks
хвзз: I have to do draw then,eh?
>G-PB>  Xeutron: my evolution of drawing stopped on 5 lines and circle
>G-PB>  Xeutron: representing a stickyhooman
хвзз: all we need
хвзз: just make basic sketch
>G-PB>  Xeutron: dunno, wingled didnt anwsered yet :P
хвзз: I will redraw it later
>G-PB>  Xeutron: hmm
>G-PB>  Xeutron: i cant guarantee you that ill come up with some great idea AND draw it xD
>G-PB>  Xeutron: i guess second part for me is overwhelimg enough :P
The Winglet: whats this about drawing?
хвзз: well,the script  I made
>G-PB>  Xeutron: that all i can is drawing a box
хвзз: if you can draw more slides of it
хвзз: and then I will draw more,right now im out of ideas
>G-PB>  Xeutron: but what do you want to change in ur script?
The Winglet: I have no ideas of my own right now either
>G-PB>  Xeutron: i mean you told that spys case appears to be in their base
>G-PB>  Xeutron: but no idea why its there
>G-PB>  Xeutron: or what is the purpose of this base
хвзз: so wait,you want to focus on background story that wont be in clip?
>G-PB>  Xeutron: i mean
>G-PB>  Xeutron: i dont how to say that
>G-PB>  Xeutron: we have a problem that "what is next"
хвзз: yep
хвзз: well,next ...
>G-PB>  Xeutron: problem is that for ex. i dunno what was before
хвзз: spy should be captured
хвзз: and then break out with couple of buddies
хвзз: what was before?
>G-PB>  Xeutron: yeah, how case appeared there
A.T: If you want something to hit home in 3 minutes, you probably need a gimmick. You can't really give a 3 minute story a whole lot
>G-PB>  Xeutron: and why it was replaced with red's one
хвзз: Well,me and win wanted somethign like"spy wants those blueprints for rockets)that you saw on the crane in my map
>G-PB>  Xeutron: good point
>G-PB>  Xeutron: oh, that sounds noice
хвзз: me and wing*
>G-PB>  Xeutron: if so, than i think it should be somehow reveealed what does spy doing there
>G-PB>  Xeutron: like a card with half finished blueprint in his hand at the beginning
>G-PB>  Xeutron: or something
хвзз: my ideas is "flashbacks"
хвзз: during the intor part
хвзз: when camera is zooming on the base
>G-PB>  Xeutron: thats great idea!
хвзз: and spy is sneaking around
хвзз: its gonna be thunderstorm
хвзз: so lightning could trigger the
хвзз: m
хвзз: there is gonna be thunderstorm*
A.T: Do you guys have a script or brain-storm document you're working out from? Creating at least a brainstorm document would probably help you with progress
хвзз: хвзз: http://i1159.photobucket.com/albums/p629/x_biker33/20150826_204034_zps5d34buj2.jpg
хвзз: http://i1159.photobucket.com/albums/p629/x_biker33/20150827_160849_zps7x3sz42c.jpg
>G-PB>  Xeutron: i think i remembered once a good side for online brainstorm
хвзз: this is all
>G-PB>  Xeutron: sheet i forgot it
A.T: well you can always create a google doc so everyone invited can edit it
хвзз: not me,Im terrible at editing text :x
A.T: just have small titles of what sort of events should happen and so on
хвзз: ye,I got you
хвзз: X,can you do it? :P
хвзз: I crafter a bloody lantern and Stout shake
хвзз: 6 ref gone :S
хвзз: time to recraft em and get something nice
>G-PB>  Xeutron: can i do what?
>G-PB>  Xeutron: or me
>G-PB>  Xeutron: who is mr.X? :P
хвзз: that document
хвзз: You are mr x
хвзз: Xsomething
>G-PB>  Xeutron: i am still looking for that webside
>G-PB>  Xeutron: but i forgot allmost everything about it
хвзз: fucking
хвзз: CHRIST
хвзз: WHAT
хвзз: IS
хвзз: THIS
хвзз: WHATS WRONG WITH CRAFTING
>G-PB>  Xeutron: wat?
хвзз: Superfan
хвзз: flippin cap
хвзз: Im getting the oldest junk :S
A.T: you can always use trello, that's rather nice for keeping up with everything as well. good for brainstorming and who's in what dmx
>G-PB>  Xeutron: u kno that this chat isnt about crafting in tf2 :P
хвзз: back to the topic then
хвзз: Keep track of things X...please
хвзз: use "trello"
>G-PB>  Xeutron: wat da heck is trello
хвзз: donno,Andy said its good for keeping up with things
>G-PB>  Xeutron: I FOUND IT
>G-PB>  Xeutron: coogle.it
A.T: You can always just use google docs, but Trello worked fine last year with Rivalry Rush
хвзз: Winglet is in coma again
>G-PB>  Xeutron: ive found it normal
>G-PB>  Xeutron: i guess he is really focused on what he is working on
>G-PB>  Xeutron: or he just went afk
A.T: he's probably working. Keeping the focus. something I wouldn't be able to do :v
хвзз: yep,he is working on his own entry I guess
>G-PB>  Xeutron: doesnt matter rly :P
хвзз: ye,we gotta come up with script first
хвзз: so,we have basic idea of whats supposed to happen
хвзз: Should I make some custom props for the map?
The Winglet: Yeah I'm multitasking atm
>G-PB>  Xeutron: is this link working?
>G-PB>  Xeutron: https://coggle.it/diagram/VemfUUcHMad2qHSp
хвзз: dont click it guys,its a scam
>G-PB>  Xeutron: ixD
>G-PB>  Xeutron: you asked me for mind map
хвзз: coggle?Cmon,at least spell it gooogle or somethign
хвзз: ye,now im too paranoid to click it
>G-PB>  Xeutron: >.>
>G-PB>  Xeutron: oke
>G-PB>  Xeutron: dont click it
>G-PB>  Xeutron: i will make it first
>G-PB>  Xeutron: printscrn
>G-PB>  Xeutron: and send it to you...
хвзз: nah
хвзз: just write it down
хвзз: and then send me the link
>G-PB>  Xeutron: i alerady did
A.T: https://trello.com
>G-PB>  Xeutron: "trello! its a trap!"
хвзз: sure is a lot of scammers in this chat,another link
A.T: Might not be needed unless you end up getting a big crew.
хвзз: which we wont
хвзз: Wing,me,X and Lugia
A.T: well you can google trello if you want. we used it on Rivalry Rush last year, as mentioned earlier. :v
хвзз: Whats lugia doing btw?Animator?
>G-PB>  Xeutron: let me see
хвзз: reminds of twitter somehow
>G-PB>  Xeutron: luiga was supposed to be another guy for lighting
>G-PB>  Xeutron: and also for some other things i didnt heard about
хвзз: we need 2 guys for lights?
хвзз: dayummmn
>G-PB>  Xeutron: mr.jc decided so
A.T: lugia told me he would be doing camera and lights. which is why I'm not really planning on touching any of it
хвзз: He also said that you might help out If you'll have some time
хвзз: I htink
хвзз: or was it you?
хвзз: Or both of you
A.T: yeah, if I got the time. But I might have 3 projects in the air atm. Adding a 4th one might be a bit overkill, at least if it's something other than screenwriting
хвзз: (+ fart  :P)
A.T: so far I'm just helping out without taking credit for anything related to the final project.
>G-PB>  Xeutron: btw at
хвзз: btw,is it % related?
хвзз: adding ppl for saxxy vids
хвзз: or can you add as many as you want
>G-PB>  Xeutron: i dont know what are you responsible for
хвзз: he is responsible for my blood pressure raising
хвзз: last year
>G-PB>  Xeutron: xD
хвзз: when he won saxxy
хвзз: or was it 2 years ago?
A.T: it was last year
>G-PB>  Xeutron: really? what title?
A.T: adding more people might not do much.
хвзз: that rush?
A.T: Rivalry Rush, yeah. :v
A.T: "the scout running one"
>G-PB>  Xeutron: oh!
>G-PB>  Xeutron: i remember dat
хвзз: I wasnt watching any saxxy vids since our nego...tiation?
A.T: if you want to go for best overall, then maybe the amount of people can change it. So far, a lot of people think that if there's only one contributor, you got a better chance at winning it for some reason. I don't believe in it myself though.
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>G-PB>  Xeutron: hmmm
>G-PB>  Xeutron: best overall wins trip to NA
>G-PB>  Xeutron: i guess thats the reason :P
>G-PB>  Xeutron: cutting the price xD
A.T: I can't invite XB back, one of you guys do it?
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хвзз: gj volvo
>G-PB>  Xeutron: >.>
хвзз: adding big screen button
хвзз: and them crashing my steam
>G-PB>  Xeutron: hah, i felt into it few days ago
>G-PB>  Xeutron: xD
хвзз: Ipd like to work on the map,so whats next?
хвзз: Spy gets in,he notices the rockets on the crane going right into next area
хвзз: is he gonna follow them?
>G-PB>  Xeutron: durp i cant come out with any idea
>G-PB>  Xeutron: and still i dunno how to rotate daumn pic
A.T: he should probably stay back and find another way in, in-case the area has security cams
>G-PB>  Xeutron: >.>
хвзз: download it
хвзз: and then rotate it
хвзз: good point
хвзз: security cameras
хвзз: should I add them?
хвзз: I can make em rotate and make sounds
>G-PB>  Xeutron: hmm sounds noice to me
хвзз: but...you wont be able to rotate them yourself...I think,maybe,never worked with sfm other that the silly pyro pose
A.T: You can just make it a model and people can add it later on when needed
A.T: rig it so the camera can turn, and ye
>G-PB>  Xeutron: yeah, just add bones etc :P
хвзз: there already is camera model
A.T: but otherwise tf2 already has some model
хвзз: but I can make different one
>G-PB>  Xeutron: do we really need cusom camera?
хвзз: no
хвзз: only If we wanted more high tech one
>G-PB>  Xeutron: well if we are staying at current TF2's time i guess less high tech one fits better
хвзз: yep
>G-PB>  Xeutron: it depends if its bit into the future
>G-PB>  Xeutron: and atm i can see its about current time
хвзз: now we gonna bring time line into this ? :D
>G-PB>  Xeutron: u mean to a whole project?
>G-PB>  Xeutron: or to each and everyone separately
хвзз: what i mean is,its gonna be in 60s
хвзз: just like tf2
>G-PB>  Xeutron: oh
>G-PB>  Xeutron: xD
>G-PB>  Xeutron: yeah
A.T: So far, what's the story behind this project? Is it "spy runs in, gets plans, out again" with obstacles, or do you have something more complicated in mind?
>G-PB>  Xeutron: yeah i also though that ive alerady seen many sneaky-spy-style sfms
хвзз: well,you've seen the script....it was just my idea
>G-PB>  Xeutron: yeah
>G-PB>  Xeutron: a core
хвзз: but Jc couldnt come up with anything in about a week
хвзз: so we doing this
The Winglet: If we're going for anything too complicated, 3 minutes isnt going to be enough
A.T: ^
хвзз: I mean,Im the mapping guy (3d models as well) so...I shouldnt be doing the script
хвзз: thats why I want to make this easy
хвзз: first part is gonna be sneaking around
>G-PB>  Xeutron: i have debuff that gives me -10k drawing experience
хвзз: with few parts where he is almsot caught
хвзз: then he gets caught
хвзз: and then action
A.T: and as mentioned earlier, if you want to go for 3 minutes, you should probably get some sort of gimmick, now that you don't really have too much time to develope any characters or big story for the viewer.
хвзз: ye but...what sort of gimmick? :/
A.T: If you're just doing action-stuff, it might end up as Wanted Warehouse did.
It got a honorable mention, but if you're going for a saxxy, it probably won't cut it.
>G-PB>  Xeutron: you mean something less... cliche?
A.T: Just anything really. Something that makes the story it's own, and not just a bunch of actions/events
The Winglet: ^
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>G-PB>  Xeutron: so maybe spy resueing not a intel but teammate?
The Winglet: Yes, it needs another element that makes it unique. Something that makes it stand out
>G-PB>  Xeutron: hmm
хвзз: ye
хвзз: like andy said,his last year saxxy was the "runnig scout" one
A.T: Worst part about that is, if you come up with something good, it's usually too good for only 3 minutes.
>G-PB>  Xeutron: yeah... time limitation
хвзз: SO,I buffed the brightness
хвзз: this shoudl do
>G-PB>  Xeutron: well in SFM id just disable lights xD
хвзз: ye well
хвзз: I forgot to set the angles
хвзз: and bouncing
>G-PB>  Xeutron: hmm if it comes about light
хвзз: this could be the place for comedy btw
A.T: I would say that you shouldn't look into lights too much. Some people who add lights removes all other map-related lights
хвзз: these rooms up here in the background
A.T: so they have full control
>G-PB>  Xeutron: yeah thats what i tried to tell
>G-PB>  Xeutron: and default lights are ofenly really werid
>G-PB>  Xeutron: giwing very low res shadows
>G-PB>  Xeutron: that why i love no lights map <3
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хвзз: its kinda true
хвзз: you cna somewhat fix it
хвзз: but it makes the map size larger
хвзз: aannyway
A.T: I would say that you probably should focus on the story a lot more than the map, unless of course you would be ready to scrap the map if you ended up getting a better idea
хвзз: I need the script to make more of the map
>G-PB>  Xeutron: ^
хвзз: I sure woul be read to scrap it
хвзз: I can still use elements of it
хвзз: but...Im the mapping guy
хвзз: Im not good with story
>G-PB>  Xeutron: well, after all you can make noice map out of it later :P
хвзз: eh,maybe
A.T: So you guys didn't hire a story guy? Or was that JC?
хвзз: Jc was....um
хвзз: or is
хвзз: erm
хвзз: what exactly is he doing?
хвзз: we dont have story guy
>G-PB>  Xeutron: THATS THE POINT WE DONT KNOW who is responsible for story
хвзз: one of my old schoolmates liked to read books,he would be good with making story
>G-PB>  Xeutron: all i heard is that its going to be like "how to tryhard:" videa
хвзз: but he never palyed tf2
хвзз: or any game for that matter
хвзз: so
хвзз: so,conclusion
>G-PB>  Xeutron: he can watch some comics though
хвзз: we need story guy
>G-PB>  Xeutron: and vlovlos sfms
>G-PB>  Xeutron: indeed
>G-PB>  Xeutron: OR idea to make one
>G-PB>  Xeutron: is the offcicial deadline 11november though?
хвзз: make a story guy?
хвзз: cmon dude,you can just make someone in a week
хвзз: or "make him"
The Winglet: We are soooo disorganised haha
хвзз: ye
>G-PB>  Xeutron: well at my age im not that much into making people :P
хвзз: my attentionspan of 10 minutes is long gone
хвзз: attention span*
>G-PB>  Xeutron: well maybe we are but we still can make it :P
хвзз: ye
хвзз: its 4 of us with andy,and 5 of us with lugia
A.T: If it can make you guys feel any better, we also had some script problems over at Leaking Red
хвзз: ye,but you had some script,didnt you?
хвзз: we dont have shit :S
>G-PB>  Xeutron: leaking red? you mean youre doing other submission?
A.T: We did, it got scrapped. Now we got some other idea that may or may not become a thing.
хвзз: lets start from scratch
A.T: Yeah, doing a few other submissions. Which is why I'm not jumping onto the "I can help with animation" train.
хвзз: we need a gimmick
хвзз: 3 minutes,probably action
хвзз: you said that in action we have highest chance of winning?
The Winglet: Action was by far the most competetive one last year
A.T: I can't recall saying it, and I doubt it after seeing all the entries these few years
The Winglet: Lots of really good entires
A.T: but we did win action with a comedy entry, sooo, I don't really know
хвзз: hm,you said that one of the categories should be easier than others
A.T: Short's rather easy it seems, heh
>G-PB>  Xeutron: http://www.sourcefilmmaker.com/saxxyawards2015/guidelines/
>G-PB>  Xeutron: just reminder
The Winglet: Drama usually has the least good submissions imo
>G-PB>  Xeutron: ^
хвзз: so
хвзз: we need to win best overall
>G-PB>  Xeutron: xD
хвзз: being flown to seattle
хвзз: tour at valve
хвзз: fuck yeah
A.T: Drama is the least good yeah, but I guess it's because everyone has an easier time to come up with comedy/action stuff that's good than good drama stuff
>G-PB>  Xeutron: id be glad if we were nominees (i think that we have some people here who would rather win a saxxy xD)
>G-PB>  Xeutron: yeah
>G-PB>  Xeutron: and also, other valve's games are allowed as far as i rememeber
>G-PB>  Xeutron: like portal
The Winglet: I can't wait until the year where no one cares about the saxies until me, then I can win
The Winglet: excetp me*
>G-PB>  Xeutron: xDDD
>G-PB>  Xeutron: yeah, best action, drama, comedy, short, extended and overall
>G-PB>  Xeutron: that wombo combo >.>
The Winglet: I want to make an entry for every catagory, that would be funny
хвзз: or simply upload it
хвзз: and then get some hackers to crash servers for a week lol
>G-PB>  Xeutron: isnt valve decides what goes what category?
A.T: Winglet, all you need to do is team up with people. That'll usually do a lot. So few people solo saxxy-submissions nowadays
A.T: So this is a good start
>G-PB>  Xeutron: does it mean that untill now u did all by urself winglet?
>G-PB>  Xeutron: without help?
>G-PB>  Xeutron: >.>
The Winglet: I've done one collab so far, with Etmer and Callegos
The Winglet: But that wasnt for saxxys
>G-PB>  Xeutron: dat one-man-army >.>
The Winglet: The problem is I ahve trouble finding good groups to work with. A lot of them are just kids who want a free saxxy and cant actually work
>G-PB>  Xeutron: thats why i was so suspicios at the beginning
The Winglet: Haha yeah that was amusing
хвзз: Well,we need a story guy
хвзз: so we can actually start working
>G-PB>  Xeutron: i gotta force myself today to have dream about a saxxy :P
хвзз: I'd rather have a dream bout story
хвзз: thinking bout it
>G-PB>  Xeutron: i mean that
хвзз: there was a pyro in my dream today
>G-PB>  Xeutron: wrong word
>G-PB>  Xeutron: saxxy submission
хвзз: burning people and selling drugs,but lets not go into that
>G-PB>  Xeutron: xD
хвзз: srsly
>G-PB>  Xeutron: hmmm burning people? i though that i was supposed to be one for "light em up!" xD
хвзз: then I was running away from something with schoolmates
хвзз: and then driving 488 gtb
хвзз: why the heck not
>G-PB>  Xeutron: well
>G-PB>  Xeutron: so
>G-PB>  Xeutron: action drama comedy
хвзз: comedy drama?
>G-PB>  Xeutron: well, many times its good combo if well made
>G-PB>  Xeutron: noice contrast but
хвзз: ye,we need a good script for that
>G-PB>  Xeutron: i dunno if it comes to drama there are few often choosen main ways
>G-PB>  Xeutron: death or loosing someone (in terms of searching for him)
The Winglet: Drama doesnt have many options
>G-PB>  Xeutron: yeah
The Winglet: Its like, femscout is dead. Scout cries. Femscout isnt dead. Conga. The end.
>G-PB>  Xeutron: xDDDD
>G-PB>  Xeutron: indeed
хвзз: in a nutshell
хвзз: yeah
>G-PB>  Xeutron: tf2 doesnt fit drama that much
хвзз: eh,maybe it does
хвзз: you just need a good....story
>G-PB>  Xeutron: but tf2 is comedy + asction itself isnt?
A.T: Waay too many dramas are like "someone dies" "now be sad"
хвзз: yep
хвзз: (googles definition of drama)