20:29 <!Alf>  Here I am
20:30 < Serafina> wb
20:30 < Enigmatic_Fellow> hello Alf
20:30 <!Alf> Thanks
20:30 <!Alf> So, to business then?
20:31 < Enigmatic_Fellow> I guess so if everyone else is ready
20:35 < Serafina> sure
20:37 <!Alf> So, negotiations with Zouken
20:37 <!Alf> When/where are you doing it?
20:37 < Enigmatic_Fellow> from what I recall, Zouken wanted to do the meeting at dusk
20:37 <!Alf> His place, IIRC?
20:38 <!Alf> No...the Grail cavern
20:38 <!Alf> Neutralish ground
20:38 < Serafina> Yeah, I believe that was correct.
20:38 < Serafina> and can show him the corrupt grail maybe.  I think
20:39 <!Alf> Ok. So how will the meeting go? WIll you meet him outside? In the chamber itself?
20:39 <!Alf> Go in first and have Rider bring him
20:39 <!Alf> Etc
20:39 <!Alf> How will you make sure Assassin isn't planning anything
20:41 < Serafina> Likely outside.
20:44 < Serafina> I forget.  was it going in the chamber or another method?
20:44 <!Alf> I believe you would go in the chamber eventually
20:44 <!Alf> Since you need to show him Grail
20:44 <!Alf> You arrive at dusk to find the old man at cave mouth, out of sight of a casual observer, his prana signature masked to be nearly invisible
20:45 <!Alf> Clearly he was testing to see if you knew of the chamber at all, or if you would need him to lead you to it (i.e. if you were imposters who wanted to use the Grail for their own purposes)
20:49 < Serafina> "Good Evening."
20:50 < Serafina> OOC: Manga had told him to meet with me specifically right?
20:52 <!Alf> Yes
20:52 <!Alf> "An Einzbern not of the Einzbern. How intriguing."
20:55 < Serafina> "I'm sure it is."
20:56 < Serafina> "I'm told you met with one of my assoicates and were referred to myself."
20:58 <!Alf> "Correct. He seemed to know who I was and what I was capable of, which is...curious."
20:58 <!Alf> "Why have you come to Fuyuki?"
21:00 <!Alf> He seems personable enough - for now
21:01 <!Alf> But he seems...assured
21:01 <!Alf> Not ruffled at all
21:03 < Serafina> "I and my assoicates have come here regarding the Holy Grail.  Which is the matter I've been considering speaking to you about?"
21:05 <!Alf> "...not simply the Holy Grail, if you know of this place."
21:09  * Serafina nods
21:10 <!Alf> "Come, enter then, and let us parley"
21:11 < Serafina> "Yes."
21:11 <!Alf> OOC: I take it Jon and Rider are not with you?
21:17 < Serafina> OOC: nearby.  Perhaps not with me though.
21:18 < Serafina> OOC:  I think it ws the temple ground we were thinking.  partly as a distraction for assassin now I think about it
21:18 <!Alf> Indeed
21:19 <!Alf> Jon/Rider keep Assassin busy
21:19 <!Alf> While you two, stealthed, have your meeting
21:21 < Yun> thanks anything happen while I was gone?
21:21 < Enigmatic_Fellow> RPing started
21:22 <!Alf> You enter the chamber, and Zouken seems to stiffen, just for a moment.
21:22 <!Alf> You get the vague notion that something seems...off to him, not quite as he remembered it, though his features don't reveal much of what he thinks
21:23 < Serafina> OOC: Greater Grail chamber?
21:23 <!Alf> Antechamber to that
21:23 <!Alf> Just inside the cave now
21:23 <!Alf> Greater Grail chamber is still a bit of a trek
21:24 <!Alf> "An impressive cloak you wear. With it, you are almost undetectable - much as I can become. So tell me, what is your business?"
21:29 < Serafina> "The completation of my mission.  The completation of which, I suspect would be within your interests."
21:31 <!Alf> "I shall be the judge of that"
21:31 < Serafina> "Fair enough."
21:31 < Serafina> "Have you noticed the irregularities of this war?  I would presume you have."
21:34 <!Alf> "Which ones? The Dead Apostle Ancestor? The King of Heroes? The intervention of the Holy Church? The destruction of the Tohsaka residence? The summoning of...odd Servants?"
21:34 <!Alf> "...or irregularities such as yourselves, and the band of mages who entered with you?"
21:36 < Serafina> "Certainly a most pecular war.  The main one that is my interest is the odd Servants."
21:40 < Serafina> "There is a reason for this location."
21:52 < Serafina> OOC: Alf?
21:53 <!Alf> Hmm
21:54 <!Alf> "I had assumed as much. Few know of it, and fewer would reveal that they know of it."
21:59 < Serafina> "Yes.  I have been contracted to resolve a matter regarding it.  In the completetion of such, I am interested in gaining your assistance."
22:00 <!Alf> "Contracted by whom?"
22:01 < Serafina> "By another Einzbern.  Who also was invovled with the Holy Grail."
22:02 <!Alf> "Yet, the Einzbern patriarch has already dispatched a team."
22:02 <!Alf> "Who is this other Einzbern you speak of?"
22:09 < Serafina> "The one you worked with before.  At least, what remains of her here."
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22:12 < Enigmatic_Fellow> hello Elyrin
22:12 < Serafina> OOC: Hiyo
22:12 <@Elyonee> stuff is actually happening?!
22:12 < Enigmatic_Fellow> yep
22:13 < Serafina> OOC: am I able to sense AM influence in the grail by chance?
22:16 <!Alf> Some
22:17 <!Alf> "...you make a bold claim, Einzbern. Can you verify it?"
22:22 < Serafina> "Not directly persay.  Our contract is difficult to detect.  But beyond the life and information I granted due to said contract, perhaps another image of her speaking to you will help persuade you."
22:27 < Serafina> OOC: need a little more from me?
22:37 <!Alf> Sec
22:37 <!Alf> Do you show the image or...?
22:39 < Serafina> OOC: I was referring to Justica in my head.  what did you think I meant?
22:42 < Serafina> OOC: Presuming Zouken confirms his desire to speak with her, I would of then let her take over for a bit
22:52 <!Alf> That's fine
22:52 <!Alf> I assume Justica will reveal something about the Grail in person then?
22:52 <!Alf> SInce it is also possible for the others to let a Justica show if they want
22:53 < Serafina> That is my thought.  Since I have an actual Justica rather then a set of memories and personlity.
22:54 <!Alf> Sure
22:54 <!Alf> Channel and walk to Great Grail then?
22:54 <!Alf> "You may proceed, though I am aware of the nature of homunculi such as yourselves"
22:54 < Serafina> OOC: yes
22:56 < Serafina> "True.  But with the lack of anything more concrete makes it difficult to prove the truth of my words. Though, showing the issue with the Grail should be easier."
22:56 <!Alf> He follows wordlessly, unreadable for now
22:56 <!Alf> "As you will then."
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23:00 < Enigmatic_Fellow> wb Alf
23:00 < Serafina> "As you may have noticed by now, the Grail is not quite what it was originally.  That is what I seek to resolve.  Unfortunately for my situation, while I do have an image of her if you will, it is from
                  before her creation of the Grail."
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23:02 < AlfRPing> "It does seem...different. The servants summoned this time did seem strange. Twisted"
23:05 < Serafina> "Yes.  And the kind of servants the Grail now summons is the only thing that would be twisted in its current state."
23:05 < AlfRPing> "You are implying more will occur if it develops further"
23:09 < Serafina> "Correct."
23:10 < AlfRPing> "Explain. You know of the function of the Grail. How could the colorless energy of Akasha be twisted by this?"
23:11 < Serafina> "By having another entity enter into the Grail."
23:12 < AlfRPing> "Servants enter the Grail, but they are taken apart, their souls sent back to Akasha. How is this different, and what else could survive the strain?
23:14 < Serafina> "Avenger was not your standard Servant."
23:18 < AlfRPing> "Oh?"
23:18 < AlfRPing> "I suppose the EInzbern would know that best of all?"
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23:23 < Yun> So how goes the conversation?
23:23 < Enigmatic_Fellow> It's going along
23:25 < Serafina> "I doubt the other Einzbern even realize the effects of that summon.  But then I suppose a Servant twisting the Grail would be most unexpected."
23:28 < AlfRPing> "Unprecedented, in fact
23:28 < AlfRPing> OOC: I'm tired, need to crash
23:28 < AlfRPing> We'll continue this later
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23:30 < Serafina> fuu...guess he didn't recovered quite enough
23:30 < Enigmatic_Fellow> it appears that way
23:31 < Serafina> when I poked him earlier, he admitted that he was recovering after being slammed by exams
23:31 < Serafina> and hasn't fully recovered yet
23:32 < Serafina> that said.  we did make some progress at least.
23:36 < Enigmatic_Fellow> agreed