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  1. [2011-12-27 00:00:23] <ManOfSleepOhMyGodHowLongHasItB> I can't wait for the Humming bird to have a kill streak then us.
  2. [2011-12-27 00:00:42] <ManOfSleepOhMyGodHowLongHasItB> Also, Hummingbro is voiced by BRIAN BLESSED.
  3. [2011-12-27 00:01:46] <MyDNSisbestintheworldBob> Hummingbro is voiced by Jean Claude Van Damme and Tim Curry being mixed together.
  4. [2011-12-27 00:02:20] <ManOfSleepOhMyGodHowLongHasItB> Oh...Oh, awesome.
  5. [2011-12-27 00:02:29] <ManOfSleepOhMyGodHowLongHasItB> Ok, that's amazing and I bow to a better mind.
  6. [2011-12-27 00:05:40] <WaryObserver> Our bird is...
  7. [2011-12-27 00:05:42] <WaryObserver> Belgian?
  8. [2011-12-27 00:06:14] <ManOfSleepOhMyGodHowLongHasItB> And from the Planet Transilvania.
  9. [2011-12-27 00:10:18] <MyDNSisbestintheworldBob> All right.
  10. [2011-12-27 00:10:24] <MyDNSisbestintheworldBob> Imma smoke a massive bowl, take a shower...
  11. [2011-12-27 00:10:27] <MyDNSisbestintheworldBob> and HOPEFULLY
  12. [2011-12-27 00:10:33] <MyDNSisbestintheworldBob> when I return there will be IRC discussion
  13. [2011-12-27 00:10:37] <MyDNSisbestintheworldBob> a man can dream
  14. [2011-12-27 00:14:15] <ManOfSleepOhMyGodHowLongHasItB> Ah, but I wanted to dream. Sleep calls me to, bob! As does Skyrim.
  15. [2011-12-27 00:15:00] <WaryObserver> You ca play video games while you sleep?
  16. [2011-12-27 00:15:13] <WaryObserver> Teach me your ways, obi-wan
  17. [2011-12-27 00:17:26] <ManOfSleepOhMyGodHowLongHasItB> A skill not known for many a year.
  18. [2011-12-27 00:20:43] <Shot__> >Space Pirates and Zombies
  19. [2011-12-27 00:20:45] <Shot__> This game!
  20. [2011-12-27 00:20:51] <Shot__> Is pretty nice.
  21. [2011-12-27 00:20:53] <ManOfSleepOhMyGodHowLongHasItB> Which game is this?
  22. [2011-12-27 00:20:56] <WaryObserver> Tell me more
  23. [2011-12-27 00:21:32] <Shot__> It's like EV Nova with fleets and experience
  24. [2011-12-27 00:21:33] <Shot__> Sorta
  25. [2011-12-27 00:22:01] <Shot__> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lWVJnpAYAN8
  26. [2011-12-27 00:22:01] <Classhole> Shot__: Let's Look at - Space Pirates and Zombies - length 11m 19s - rated 4.96/5.0 (89) - 6188 views - Northernlion on 2011.06.27
  27. [2011-12-27 00:26:43] <Shot__> and here we go-
  28. [2011-12-27 00:26:45] <Shot__> -DDAMNIT
  29. [2011-12-27 00:26:47] <Shot__> er
  30. [2011-12-27 00:32:46] |<-- GoateeWuten has left irc.rizon.net ()
  31. [2011-12-27 00:32:52] <PriceisMagic> SO
  32. [2011-12-27 00:32:55] <PriceisMagic> What to talk about?
  33. [2011-12-27 00:34:04] <WaryObserver> Devil plans
  34. [2011-12-27 00:34:29] <WaryObserver> Or ponies.
  35. [2011-12-27 00:34:34] <WaryObserver> Either is good
  36. [2011-12-27 00:34:53] <Shot__> http://images.4chan.org/tg/src/1324966396677.jpg
  37. [2011-12-27 00:34:53] <PriceisMagic> Ok, Devil plans it is
  38. [2011-12-27 00:35:14] <WaryObserver> Ooh!
  39. [2011-12-27 00:35:22] <WaryObserver> Ar.as as a weretiger
  40. [2011-12-27 00:36:09] <PriceisMagic> Its funny how we can spend hours bitching about some things yet draw a blank on others :|
  41. [2011-12-27 00:37:18] <mib_d1evub> I wouldn't say that
  42. [2011-12-27 00:37:21] <WaryObserver> Well, I think it has something to do with how the most recent post finishes; It give no real leanings as to the devils current disposition
  43. [2011-12-27 00:37:35] <WaryObserver> No easy thought starter, as it were
  44. [2011-12-27 00:37:41] <mib_d1evub> I would say the constant bitching and arguing exhausts the argument weeks before it becomes pertinent
  45. [2011-12-27 00:38:26] <mib_d1evub> And when it finally comes time to do the thing that's been argued about everyone about done
  46. [2011-12-27 00:41:39] <mib_d1evub> That and this is the kind of thing you can't just blast off an idea about, it's something you need to get down to the base of and formulate a specific command.
  47. [2011-12-27 00:42:37] <WaryObserver> We could just go up to it and say "'Sup?"
  48. [2011-12-27 00:42:46] <WaryObserver> That'd work well, right?
  49. [2011-12-27 00:47:25] <MyDNSisbestintheworldBob> So, any good conversation crack-a-lackin?
  50. [2011-12-27 00:47:38] <mib_d1evub> Nope
  51. [2011-12-27 00:47:50] <PriceisMagic> Not many people here...
  52. [2011-12-27 00:48:22] <mib_d1evub> If are going to derp about with a booby trapped hand we should recall that Savoy claimed Amen worked on the hand he was grafted with
  53. [2011-12-27 00:48:58] <WaryObserver> What kind of traps are you thinking?
  54. [2011-12-27 00:49:01] <mib_d1evub> The one that managed to keep him alive through what would have been enough blood loss to kill like three men
  55. [2011-12-27 00:49:23] <WaryObserver> It becomes Amens' meat puppet?
  56. [2011-12-27 00:49:41] <mib_d1evub> Too overt
  57. [2011-12-27 00:49:45] <mib_d1evub> Too much
  58. [2011-12-27 00:50:08] <mib_d1evub> Something simple and subtle is preferable.
  59. [2011-12-27 00:50:15] <WaryObserver> Such as...?
  60. [2011-12-27 00:50:46] <mib_d1evub> I don't have any specific in mind. I just don't want to give Amen more to work with than he needs.
  61. [2011-12-27 00:51:39] <WaryObserver> More to work with? Elaborate on what you mean, if you please.
  62. [2011-12-27 00:53:13] <mib_d1evub> Do I really need to? The more complex and elaborate our machinations for the hand get the greater the chance of Amen fucking us in it's creation.
  63. [2011-12-27 00:54:02] <PriceisMagic> I wish I could help out but I'm really no good at planning and schemes :|
  64. [2011-12-27 00:54:19] <WaryObserver> Ideas are enough, methinks
  65. [2011-12-27 00:55:01] <mib_d1evub> Alright well what do we want
  66. [2011-12-27 00:55:35] <mib_d1evub> What would our ultimate goal for the devil be with the booby trap? Kill it? Disable it?
  67. [2011-12-27 00:56:05] <WaryObserver> My vote goes to getting it so we can feed it to Whaitiri
  68. [2011-12-27 00:56:24] <WaryObserver> But i'm a slut for our summer line so...
  69. [2011-12-27 00:56:26] <WaryObserver> ZMeh
  70. [2011-12-27 00:56:32] <mib_d1evub> Personally I'd like to see if we can get something done that would give us information on it
  71. [2011-12-27 00:56:36] <mib_d1evub> Like it's True Name
  72. [2011-12-27 00:56:45] <mib_d1evub> Or wait we got that didn't we?
  73. [2011-12-27 00:56:58] <WaryObserver> I thought we got its title?
  74. [2011-12-27 00:57:26] <WaryObserver> Or A title
  75. [2011-12-27 00:58:09] <mib_d1evub> Well if we can claim it's true name through a simple working of blood and nothing more we could gain greatly with what I would estimate to be very little power expenditure on Amen's end.
  76. [2011-12-27 00:58:43] <WaryObserver> What can we actually do with its name?
  77. [2011-12-27 00:58:48] <mib_d1evub> But I know bugger all on what knowing a Devil's name mechanically provides in GfH, so I could be talking out of my ass here
  78. [2011-12-27 00:59:05] <mib_d1evub> I'm guessing control over it, that's usually what having someone's name does.
  79. [2011-12-27 00:59:18] <WaryObserver> But does Armas know how?
  80. [2011-12-27 00:59:21] <WaryObserver> Or Einrick?
  81. [2011-12-27 00:59:25] <mib_d1evub> I'd guess Amen
  82. [2011-12-27 00:59:40] <WaryObserver> That's a given.
  83. [2011-12-27 00:59:55] <WaryObserver> But don't we want to use amen to the minimum?
  84. [2011-12-27 01:00:02] <mib_d1evub> I'm fine with information
  85. [2011-12-27 01:00:25] <mib_d1evub> As long as we order truthfulness along with the standard orders we should be fine
  86. [2011-12-27 01:00:56] <WaryObserver> Unless it requires a certain power level to influence.
  87. [2011-12-27 01:00:57] <mib_d1evub> But it's a Finnish devil, so I guess Einrik it's a safer option if we can communicate mentally.
  88. [2011-12-27 01:01:23] <mib_d1evub> Any chance we could get an official statement on this Bob?
  89. [2011-12-27 01:02:27] <WaryObserver> How can we use the ambiguous settling of the "this" to our advantage?
  90. [2011-12-27 01:02:46] <WaryObserver> Third post from the bottom, previous thread, fyi
  91. [2011-12-27 01:04:08] <WaryObserver> I think we could just scrap the debt purchase, but I don't think we want to do that.
  92. [2011-12-27 01:04:43] <PriceisMagic> So why does it want to kill us?
  93. [2011-12-27 01:04:49] <PriceisMagic> I missed that part
  94. [2011-12-27 01:04:53] <Shot__> We ate his hand
  95. [2011-12-27 01:05:05] <mib_d1evub> Didn't Silja eat it
  96. [2011-12-27 01:05:06] <PriceisMagic> No we didnt
  97. [2011-12-27 01:05:12] <PriceisMagic> Silja did
  98. [2011-12-27 01:05:17] <Shot__> Well
  99. [2011-12-27 01:05:19] <Shot__> okay yeah
  100. [2011-12-27 01:05:23] <mib_d1evub> I'm certain he wants to kill us specifically anyway
  101. [2011-12-27 01:05:29] <PriceisMagic> Why?
  102. [2011-12-27 01:05:45] <PriceisMagic> I thought it wouldnt care so long as we replaced it
  103. [2011-12-27 01:05:55] <PriceisMagic> That WAS the deal
  104. [2011-12-27 01:05:58] <WaryObserver> Naw
  105. [2011-12-27 01:06:02] <WaryObserver> POTENTIAL DEAL
  106. [2011-12-27 01:06:09] <WaryObserver> Not set yet
  107. [2011-12-27 01:07:48] <PriceisMagic> To bad, I wish we could have had him as a Friend
  108. [2011-12-27 01:07:52] <mib_d1evub> Some people say "Oh yeah he secretly wants to kill us." I haven't heard an official statement on the matter though
  109. [2011-12-27 01:07:56] <mib_d1evub> He is a Devil though
  110. [2011-12-27 01:08:05] <mib_d1evub> So for the purposes of deals it's in his nature to fuck us
  111. [2011-12-27 01:08:07] <PriceisMagic> Still
  112. [2011-12-27 01:08:23] <mib_d1evub> I'm kind of thinking people mixed that statement up with his goals towards Armas
  113. [2011-12-27 01:08:34] <WaryObserver> I remember something about swindling being in devils nature.
  114. [2011-12-27 01:08:41] <mib_d1evub> But I could just as easily believe it as anything else
  115. [2011-12-27 01:08:43] <WaryObserver> But no death for armas
  116. [2011-12-27 01:08:51] <mib_d1evub> And killing him COULD be to our benefit, of course at great risk to us
  117. [2011-12-27 01:08:55] <PriceisMagic> Again: Having a friend as strong as some dragons will be a great help
  118. [2011-12-27 01:09:08] <WaryObserver> Friend and devil don't sound like they mix
  119. [2011-12-27 01:09:21] <WaryObserver> But what do i know?
  120. [2011-12-27 01:09:26] <PriceisMagic> Still
  121. [2011-12-27 01:09:38] <MyDNSisbestintheworldBob> So, FYI
  122. [2011-12-27 01:09:44] <MyDNSisbestintheworldBob> in japan, the term 'Bushi' will reference people that have taken magic, be it magic items, chakra, bloodlines, artifacts, Contracts, some combination-and have become one-warrior-armies, the living embodiment of war. So, when in feudal japan, if you hear someone called a Bushi, think Einrik level.
  123. [2011-12-27 01:09:48] <mib_d1evub> The way he's intertwined with the Silja mystery would make me hesitant to do anything like that with him
  124. [2011-12-27 01:09:51] <MyDNSisbestintheworldBob> This will apply in the time-slip event dealie
  125. [2011-12-27 01:09:58] <MyDNSisbestintheworldBob> The title no longer has such connotations
  126. [2011-12-27 01:10:03] <mib_d1evub> The two options I'm fine with are dead or not bothering us
  127. [2011-12-27 01:10:50] <PriceisMagic> Agreed
  128. [2011-12-27 01:10:59] <MyDNSisbestintheworldBob> There's nothing rendering mutually beneficial dealings with Devils impossible in the GfH setting.
  129. [2011-12-27 01:11:00] <PriceisMagic> Can he lie though?
  130. [2011-12-27 01:11:06] <WaryObserver> Don't think so
  131. [2011-12-27 01:11:12] <mib_d1evub> Of course there isn't
  132. [2011-12-27 01:11:16] <mib_d1evub> Is it likely is the question
  133. [2011-12-27 01:11:28] <mib_d1evub> Do we need Dorian Gray skills to get it?
  134. [2011-12-27 01:12:05] <mib_d1evub> I'm thinking we would need training in Devil dealing to get there, either that or try it on our own
  135. [2011-12-27 01:12:08] <PriceisMagic> 15:09 MyDNSisbestintheworldBob The title no longer has such connotations <==== could you elaborate? I don't understand
  136. [2011-12-27 01:12:23] <mib_d1evub> And sink or swim until we get them through repeated dealings with the devil.
  137. [2011-12-27 01:13:29] <WaryObserver> What do we actually know definitively about the devil? Lightning, ugly as hell, one hand, owns AV's soul. Anything else?
  138. [2011-12-27 01:13:54] <mib_d1evub> He doesn't own the soul really, he owns the debt on his soul
  139. [2011-12-27 01:13:57] <MyDNSisbestintheworldBob> Price, that means 'Bushi' is no longer used as a meaningful term in the contemporary GfH setting. It has fallen out of use.
  140. [2011-12-27 01:14:08] <PriceisMagic> Ah
  141. [2011-12-27 01:14:11] <mib_d1evub> But yeah, heavily order inclined wasn't he?
  142. [2011-12-27 01:14:48] <WaryObserver> Well, how can we use that?
  143. [2011-12-27 01:15:17] <WaryObserver> Oh, right, the devil has crap intelligence sources
  144. [2011-12-27 01:15:20] <mib_d1evub> Actually less chaotic than most
  145. [2011-12-27 01:15:26] <mib_d1evub> Which is actually pretty interesting
  146. [2011-12-27 01:15:39] <mib_d1evub> It sounds like most devils are more chaotically inclined.
  147. [2011-12-27 01:16:43] <mib_d1evub> Does he have crap intelligence resources? I mean he was woefully wrong about his sources and he was chasing what he thought was a mundane human around for longer than one's expected lifespan at the time.
  148. [2011-12-27 01:17:36] <WaryObserver> It was an assumption. It'd be better to say they're not goblins, or he doesn't ask all the right questions.
  149. [2011-12-27 01:17:49] <WaryObserver> Understand my meaning?
  150. [2011-12-27 01:17:58] <mib_d1evub> Got it.
  151. [2011-12-27 01:22:28] <mib_d1evub> Well a lot of this isn't great information, but it does mean we should attempt to play into his inclinations. The only thing I can draw from it directly is that we should play into his inclinations and subvert them, and that while attempting to do so we may have more room to dance in than we usually would against such a high tier entity.
  152. [2011-12-27 01:25:09] <WaryObserver> Like making him feel he is at the advantage, playing a fool to lead him into some sort of trap?
  153. [2011-12-27 01:25:40] <WaryObserver> Playing off his sense of superiority perhaps?
  154. [2011-12-27 01:25:52] <mib_d1evub> Seems like a good enough place to start
  155. [2011-12-27 01:26:32] <WaryObserver> There lies the problem, methinks; Where do we start?
  156. [2011-12-27 01:27:30] <PriceisMagic> I'm not very good at this so I've got no idea
  157. [2011-12-27 01:28:11] <WaryObserver> A hint from Bob might be cool.
  158. [2011-12-27 01:28:17] <WaryObserver> Unlikely as it is.
  159. [2011-12-27 01:34:23] <mib_d1evub> So
  160. [2011-12-27 01:35:30] <mib_d1evub> Still need a way to convince him to get a new hand, from what I understand he just wants the soul so he can regrow his
  161. [2011-12-27 01:35:45] <WaryObserver> Where'd you get that idea?
  162. [2011-12-27 01:35:52] <mib_d1evub> The main thread
  163. [2011-12-27 01:35:59] <WaryObserver> Current?
  164. [2011-12-27 01:36:04] <mib_d1evub> Past
  165. [2011-12-27 01:36:30] <mib_d1evub> I recall Armas and the mental crew musing that, but if you want to check it for accuracy I'd appreciate it
  166. [2011-12-27 01:36:51] <mib_d1evub> If it's true then we would actively need to sell him on the idea
  167. [2011-12-27 01:37:42] <WaryObserver> Which idea? the selling of the soul? or amen hand?
  168. [2011-12-27 01:38:01] <mib_d1evub> Having Amen craft a hand for him
  169. [2011-12-27 01:38:22] <PriceisMagic> That could back fire HORRIBLY
  170. [2011-12-27 01:38:35] <PriceisMagic> Or work VERY well
  171. [2011-12-27 01:38:53] <WaryObserver> ^[every plan involving amen ever]
  172. [2011-12-27 01:39:12] <PriceisMagic> Also: Can we die with out worrying about Amen?
  173. [2011-12-27 01:39:22] <WaryObserver> Physically?
  174. [2011-12-27 01:39:24] <WaryObserver> Dunno
  175. [2011-12-27 01:39:26] <Shifter20> Never.
  176. [2011-12-27 01:39:27] <WaryObserver> I think so
  177. [2011-12-27 01:39:32] <PriceisMagic> Hmmmm
  178. [2011-12-27 01:40:00] <PriceisMagic> I think so long as we don't loose our eye or have our soul die we're fine
  179. [2011-12-27 01:40:15] <Conil> I, for one
  180. [2011-12-27 01:40:23] <Conil> Would prefer never going to Amen. For anything.
  181. [2011-12-27 01:40:41] <WaryObserver> I or one, want to make amen into a love being
  182. [2011-12-27 01:40:43] <PriceisMagic> Yup
  183. [2011-12-27 01:40:48] <WaryObserver> for*
  184. [2011-12-27 01:40:52] <PriceisMagic> what?
  185. [2011-12-27 01:40:53] <PriceisMagic> no
  186. [2011-12-27 01:41:05] <Shifter20> Or make him both.
  187. [2011-12-27 01:41:16] <WaryObserver> Yandere amen for everyone!
  188. [2011-12-27 01:41:22] <Shifter20> Love/Hate engine errywhere.
  189. [2011-12-27 01:41:46] <Shifter20> Obsess-ses-sessing other people.
  190. [2011-12-27 01:42:03] <Conil> ...What
  191. [2011-12-27 01:42:18] <WaryObserver> Back to the devil now
  192. [2011-12-27 01:42:49] <WaryObserver> Suppose the hand doesn't backfire, what does it do?
  193. [2011-12-27 01:43:55] <PriceisMagic> ...New hand for the devil?
  194. [2011-12-27 01:44:06] <WaryObserver> Potential new hand for the devil
  195. [2011-12-27 01:44:09] <PriceisMagic> OR allow us to take over him
  196. [2011-12-27 01:44:15] <PriceisMagic> Using the Amen
  197. [2011-12-27 01:45:14] <WaryObserver> What about ArValk's soul? Do devils have next-of-kins relating to their demise?
  198. [2011-12-27 01:45:23] <WaryObserver> Debts*
  199. [2011-12-27 01:45:37] <PriceisMagic> I dunno
  200. [2011-12-27 01:46:45] <mib_d1evub> Well the hand for the devil using Amen was one of two plans proffered earlier
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  202. [2011-12-27 01:47:10] <mib_d1evub> The whole getting his True Name from the hand thing I was saying earlier was trying to minimize the amount we have to use Amen in the act
  203. [2011-12-27 01:47:40] <mib_d1evub> Because really
  204. [2011-12-27 01:47:46] <mib_d1evub> All our plans as of now involve Amen
  205. [2011-12-27 01:47:50] <WaryObserver> How will the hand get the name? we have to be precise.
  206. [2011-12-27 01:47:58] <mib_d1evub> I know
  207. [2011-12-27 01:48:21] <WaryObserver> Restricted control relating only to the obtaining of the name?
  208. [2011-12-27 01:48:26] <PriceisMagic> ...MyDNSisbestintheworldBob Does the Japan thing have anything to do with our Secret admirer?
  209. [2011-12-27 01:48:27] <mib_d1evub> Presumably an undetectable form of blood based mental magic, specifically restricted in it's function to acquire that inform....
  210. [2011-12-27 01:48:33] <mib_d1evub> Beat me to it
  211. [2011-12-27 01:49:02] <mib_d1evub> That to me is a secondary plan though
  212. [2011-12-27 01:49:06] <WaryObserver> What if it doesn't know its name? what then?
  213. [2011-12-27 01:49:33] <mib_d1evub> What I really want to do is find a way to sick the Red Caps on him after they've gorged themselves.
  214. [2011-12-27 01:49:41] <WaryObserver> Whuh
  215. [2011-12-27 01:49:50] <PriceisMagic> Are they strong enough though?
  216. [2011-12-27 01:50:00] <mib_d1evub> I don't know, I think they might be
  217. [2011-12-27 01:50:01] <PriceisMagic> Hes as strong as Dragons
  218. [2011-12-27 01:50:05] <WaryObserver> I think he means when the prick is restrained
  219. [2011-12-27 01:50:08] <mib_d1evub> After they've gotten all that blood?
  220. [2011-12-27 01:50:15] |<-- Gunpowder_Symphony has left irc.rizon.net (Quit: Sleepin')
  221. [2011-12-27 01:50:17] <WaryObserver> A buffet as it were
  222. [2011-12-27 01:50:22] <mib_d1evub> I think a gorged Red Cap could maybe do it.
  223. [2011-12-27 01:50:23] <mib_d1evub> Not sure
  224. [2011-12-27 01:50:30] <WaryObserver> Two, you mean
  225. [2011-12-27 01:50:32] <mib_d1evub> The real problem is calling them to us
  226. [2011-12-27 01:50:41] <mib_d1evub> I don't know if we know how
  227. [2011-12-27 01:50:55] <WaryObserver> Shout into the sewers for ricky and lucy?
  228. [2011-12-27 01:51:13] <mib_d1evub> But the offer of all the blood in the devil's body plus a free gorging of food (unrelated to our earlier agreement to feed them) seems tempting enough doesn't it?
  229. [2011-12-27 01:51:28] <mib_d1evub> If Armas blood is worth all that food imagine what a full devil's worth of blood is worth?
  230. [2011-12-27 01:51:50] <WaryObserver> Provided they wont be killed by the devil in a microsecond
  231. [2011-12-27 01:51:59] <PriceisMagic> Yeah
  232. [2011-12-27 01:52:02] <WaryObserver> And i like them
  233. [2011-12-27 01:52:08] <mib_d1evub> It's an iffy plan.
  234. [2011-12-27 01:52:09] <WaryObserver> Don't want them getting killed
  235. [2011-12-27 01:52:16] <PriceisMagic> Lucys a bit of a bitch
  236. [2011-12-27 01:52:23] <PriceisMagic> But yeah they're ok
  237. [2011-12-27 01:52:25] <mib_d1evub> Short of the Valkonen's it's the best we have though
  238. [2011-12-27 01:52:31] <WaryObserver> She struck me more cautious
  239. [2011-12-27 01:52:34] <mib_d1evub> Valkonens*
  240. [2011-12-27 01:52:57] <mib_d1evub> And Einrik doesn't want to get wrapped up in this
  241. [2011-12-27 01:52:59] <PriceisMagic> I wonder hoe hard Enirik was trying in our fight...
  242. [2011-12-27 01:53:08] <PriceisMagic> how*
  243. [2011-12-27 01:53:15] <WaryObserver> 1/1000000 of his power
  244. [2011-12-27 01:53:30] <PriceisMagic> Heh
  245. [2011-12-27 01:53:32] <WaryObserver> Hyperbole
  246. [2011-12-27 01:53:35] <WaryObserver> of course
  247. [2011-12-27 01:53:36] <mib_d1evub> I think he could have killed the dragon if he wasn't interrupted.
  248. [2011-12-27 01:53:38] <mib_d1evub> I really do.
  249. [2011-12-27 01:53:42] <mib_d1evub> Well no
  250. [2011-12-27 01:53:43] <PriceisMagic> No
  251. [2011-12-27 01:53:45] <PriceisMagic> He said
  252. [2011-12-27 01:53:46] <mib_d1evub> He said he couldn't
  253. [2011-12-27 01:53:54] <mib_d1evub> But the devil
  254. [2011-12-27 01:53:55] <PriceisMagic> The Devil?
  255. [2011-12-27 01:53:56] <PriceisMagic> Maybe
  256. [2011-12-27 01:53:59] <PriceisMagic> :|
  257. [2011-12-27 01:54:13] <mib_d1evub> Lets' avoid syncing up Price
  258. [2011-12-27 01:54:18] <mib_d1evub> That's me and Guile's thing
  259. [2011-12-27 01:54:19] <PriceisMagic> Yeah
  260. [2011-12-27 01:54:24] <PriceisMagic> Ok
  261. [2011-12-27 01:54:37] <mib_d1evub> Right so not going to get them involved
  262. [2011-12-27 01:54:45] <mib_d1evub> What alternate options exist?
  263. [2011-12-27 01:55:13] <WaryObserver> Settle the Affair by saying Armas is no longer interested at all
  264. [2011-12-27 01:55:18] <WaryObserver> I don't like that one
  265. [2011-12-27 01:55:49] <WaryObserver> Oh.
  266. [2011-12-27 01:55:55] <PriceisMagic> What would be better?
  267. [2011-12-27 01:56:06] <PriceisMagic> Devil as a friend
  268. [2011-12-27 01:56:06] <PriceisMagic> OR
  269. [2011-12-27 01:56:10] <PriceisMagic> Devil as a meal
  270. [2011-12-27 01:56:25] <WaryObserver> If he can be made into a friend, friend
  271. [2011-12-27 01:56:33] <PriceisMagic> Yeah
  272. [2011-12-27 01:56:34] <WaryObserver> Rather, if it is probable
  273. [2011-12-27 01:56:56] <WaryObserver> We could get a rage/restraint fragment from him or something
  274. [2011-12-27 01:57:08] <WaryObserver> Both, rather
  275. [2011-12-27 01:57:16] <mib_d1evub> From him or from using his soul for one?
  276. [2011-12-27 01:57:30] <WaryObserver> From him, for a favor in the future or summat
  277. [2011-12-27 01:58:04] <WaryObserver> Only if he is actually a freind though
  278. [2011-12-27 01:58:05] <mib_d1evub> If we get a reward from a devil we might as well have him further corrupt the matebas
  279. [2011-12-27 01:58:45] <PriceisMagic> 15:57 mib_d1evub If we get a reward from a devil we might as well have him further CORRUPT THE MATEBAS <====== What?
  280. [2011-12-27 01:58:59] <WaryObserver> Enhace i think he means
  281. [2011-12-27 01:59:00] <mib_d1evub> They are demon tainted
  282. [2011-12-27 01:59:05] <PriceisMagic> ...
  283. [2011-12-27 01:59:07] <PriceisMagic> They are?
  284. [2011-12-27 01:59:09] <mib_d1evub> Is what I mean
  285. [2011-12-27 01:59:09] <PriceisMagic> Huh
  286. [2011-12-27 01:59:14] <PriceisMagic> Since when?
  287. [2011-12-27 01:59:21] <mib_d1evub> A 666 bonus granted them their quickdraw power ages ago
  288. [2011-12-27 01:59:27] <PriceisMagic> aaaah
  289. [2011-12-27 01:59:32] <mib_d1evub> They have been repeatedly referred to as demonically driven
  290. [2011-12-27 01:59:33] <PriceisMagic> When we fought Doony
  291. [2011-12-27 01:59:37] <WaryObserver> So 666 is the mark in Gfh?
  292. [2011-12-27 01:59:41] <WaryObserver> Not 616?
  293. [2011-12-27 01:59:44] <mib_d1evub> So I don't mean corrupt in a bad way
  294. [2011-12-27 01:59:44] <WaryObserver> Neat
  295. [2011-12-27 01:59:50] <mib_d1evub> I mean corrupt as is
  296. [2011-12-27 01:59:53] <PriceisMagic> welll
  297. [2011-12-27 02:00:03] <mib_d1evub> Further taint it with whatever it had already and make it more potent
  298. [2011-12-27 02:00:07] <PriceisMagic> 666 IS the most commonly know
  299. [2011-12-27 02:00:34] <WaryObserver> So they could be tainted by belief rather than demonic influence
  300. [2011-12-27 02:00:36] <PriceisMagic> Hmmm, Devil/Demon artifacts in the future ay....
  301. [2011-12-27 02:00:40] <WaryObserver> Double-neat
  302. [2011-12-27 02:00:41] <PriceisMagic> Nice
  303. [2011-12-27 02:00:54] <mib_d1evub> Artifacts?
  304. [2011-12-27 02:01:00] <mib_d1evub> Eh, I wouldn't want that
  305. [2011-12-27 02:01:04] <mib_d1evub> We're full as it is
  306. [2011-12-27 02:01:05] <WaryObserver> Second
  307. [2011-12-27 02:01:25] <WaryObserver> Mammon was a cheap prick, I don't think the rest will be any better
  308. [2011-12-27 02:01:27] <PriceisMagic> Is there any way to have more artifacts on us?
  309. [2011-12-27 02:01:28] <mib_d1evub> Near artifact quality demonic autorevolvers? That's more like it.
  310. [2011-12-27 02:01:35] <mib_d1evub> Yeah
  311. [2011-12-27 02:01:51] <mib_d1evub> When we were tossing up ideas for crucible contestants
  312. [2011-12-27 02:02:00] <mib_d1evub> One of them has an ancient sword
  313. [2011-12-27 02:02:08] <WaryObserver> ARMAS
  314. [2011-12-27 02:02:09] <mib_d1evub> Made from the body of a practitioner
  315. [2011-12-27 02:02:21] <WaryObserver> MASTER SWORDFIGHTER
  316. [2011-12-27 02:02:23] <mib_d1evub> So if you want to be an incredibly evil dick
  317. [2011-12-27 02:02:34] <mib_d1evub> Turn a person with a bloodline into an artifact
  318. [2011-12-27 02:02:38] <mib_d1evub> Bam
  319. [2011-12-27 02:02:40] <mib_d1evub> Free artifact
  320. [2011-12-27 02:02:50] <WaryObserver> Rocks are not free, citizen
  321. [2011-12-27 02:02:57] <WaryObserver> Get my meaning?
  322. [2011-12-27 02:02:59] <Ironybot> I believe that was our proposed end for Savoy at one point. Teleportation item for us.
  323. [2011-12-27 02:04:48] <mib_d1evub> You know that guy with the artifact sword is probably pretty scary
  324. [2011-12-27 02:04:48] <WaryObserver> Would there be any benefit from Armas actively practicing his current abilities in Fleshcrafting?
  325. [2011-12-27 02:04:59] <WaryObserver> >Bobquest
  326. [2011-12-27 02:05:01] <mib_d1evub> Because technically he would have three bloodlines if I remember
  327. [2011-12-27 02:05:07] <WaryObserver> >Dude who is not scary
  328. [2011-12-27 02:05:12] <mib_d1evub> And potentially he could possess three artifacts
  329. [2011-12-27 02:05:16] <mib_d1evub> Think about it
  330. [2011-12-27 02:05:47] <Ironybot> If Armas never practices fleshcrafting he's not really going to get better at it, although he'll probably only get better by mental splicing anyway.
  331. [2011-12-27 02:06:04] <WaryObserver> ... Mental splicing?
  332. [2011-12-27 02:06:17] <mib_d1evub> The dream data packets
  333. [2011-12-27 02:06:31] <WaryObserver> What is it that i read?
  334. [2011-12-27 02:06:45] <Ironybot> I believe the reason we were holding off involved not having tons of meat to voraciously recharge our Summer bloodline, a circumstance which has now been obviated.
  335. [2011-12-27 02:07:04] <mib_d1evub> It would probably be good to practice with that now
  336. [2011-12-27 02:07:16] <WaryObserver> Now as in after the devil is dealt with
  337. [2011-12-27 02:07:26] <mib_d1evub> With our Gyak training winding down due to lack of variety at home and the Russians getting a bit tired.
  338. [2011-12-27 02:07:27] <WaryObserver> Or during
  339. [2011-12-27 02:07:40] <mib_d1evub> After.
  340. [2011-12-27 02:07:50] <Ironybot> Indeed. My preference would be to figure out how to use Summer for physical boosts while using chakra for mental boosts, or for physical boosts in other parts of our body.
  341. [2011-12-27 02:08:11] <Ironybot> At the moment we're not able to simultaneously use both skillsets and are therefore wasting one or the other.
  342. [2011-12-27 02:09:09] <WaryObserver> Small sidebar, Could Armas potentially become a Were-whatever if he temporarily overided his healing?
  343. [2011-12-27 02:09:25] <WaryObserver> Or rather
  344. [2011-12-27 02:09:27] <mib_d1evub> I don't get what you mean
  345. [2011-12-27 02:09:31] <WaryObserver> Would we want to?
  346. [2011-12-27 02:09:33] <mib_d1evub> Fleshcraft ourselves into a beast?
  347. [2011-12-27 02:09:36] <WaryObserver> Naw
  348. [2011-12-27 02:09:47] <WaryObserver> Grab the were-creature powerset
  349. [2011-12-27 02:10:02] <mib_d1evub> That's essentially just gearing your body towards a bestial form
  350. [2011-12-27 02:10:09] <WaryObserver> Huh
  351. [2011-12-27 02:10:14] <WaryObserver> Thats it?
  352. [2011-12-27 02:10:21] <WaryObserver> Thought it was different
  353. [2011-12-27 02:10:21] <mib_d1evub> Well no
  354. [2011-12-27 02:10:24] <MyDNSisbestintheworldBob> Okay back
  355. [2011-12-27 02:10:33] <mib_d1evub> I don't think that's alll
  356. [2011-12-27 02:10:50] <WaryObserver> Now that Bob's back...
  357. [2011-12-27 02:10:57] <WaryObserver> What do were things do bob?
  358. [2011-12-27 02:11:21] <MyDNSisbestintheworldBob> What
  359. [2011-12-27 02:11:24] <mib_d1evub> But for our purposes I don't see any extreme difference.
  360. [2011-12-27 02:12:11] <mib_d1evub> I mean we have the healing already
  361. [2011-12-27 02:12:31] <WaryObserver> True
  362. [2011-12-27 02:12:48] <WaryObserver> But I feel Armas would make a mean Weretiger
  363. [2011-12-27 02:13:39] <Ironybot> So. Devil is here. Need a plan. As I see it, we've got two basic courses of action: Pay him off and let him leave to doubtless return and haunt us later, or try and kill him with some kind of clever trap, which basically means using Amen and our talking skills while hoping he's not extra-savvy.
  364. [2011-12-27 02:14:09] <WaryObserver> Or we could try to make an ally out of him
  365. [2011-12-27 02:15:04] <Ironybot> ...how? Don't we know that he's got it personally in for us due to... something? I seem to recall that featuring rather prominently in IRC discussion logic at one point.
  366. [2011-12-27 02:15:47] <mib_d1evub> I'm still not sure that's actually real
  367. [2011-12-27 02:15:50] <Ironybot> Making an ally out of him given that would basically require that we make a devil pact with him which he would find favorable enough that he'd consider anything which he was holding against us before a wash.
  368. [2011-12-27 02:15:58] <MrTT> You know... we have flesh manip/feeding summer line... I bet we can, with the right traiing, learn to extract memories from a brain we eat
  369. [2011-12-27 02:16:08] <MrTT> like in prototype
  370. [2011-12-27 02:16:26] <Ironybot> Yes, we've considered asking Whaitiri for that ability as an upgrade, but let's focus on the devil for now please.
  371. [2011-12-27 02:16:51] <MrTT> I was trying to herd the cats into this earlier but nobody responded
  372. [2011-12-27 02:17:17] <MrTT> So far I had two ideas
  373. [2011-12-27 02:17:40] <MrTT> 1. amen disguises a russian as armas. Russian invites devil inside. Amen asks us if we approve of invitation and we say no. Devil walks in and get snagged
  374. [2011-12-27 02:18:07] <MrTT> 2. Everything is played completely straight except we order amen to stealthily steal some blood and flesh from the devil while repairing his hand
  375. [2011-12-27 02:18:33] <MrTT> use the blood to track the devil at all times, stealthily, and be ready to immobilize him at our command
  376. [2011-12-27 02:19:04] <WaryObserver> Y'know, we could do this peacefully
  377. [2011-12-27 02:19:07] <MrTT> also amen is not to communicate with it, let it read its mind, let it read anyone's mind
  378. [2011-12-27 02:19:16] <MrTT> My second option is peaceful
  379. [2011-12-27 02:19:22] <MrTT> the blood theft is merely insurance
  380. [2011-12-27 02:19:22] <WaryObserver> Somewhat.
  381. [2011-12-27 02:19:28] <WaryObserver> True
  382. [2011-12-27 02:19:31] <MrTT> if he doesn't screw us we don't use it
  383. [2011-12-27 02:19:43] <MrTT> We actually try to deal fairly with him, a valuable new trading partner
  384. [2011-12-27 02:19:52] <MrTT> and the moment he backstabs us... bam, amen bloodmagicrape!
  385. [2011-12-27 02:19:54] <Ironybot> We gave the Russians the right to issue new orders to Amen, and I don't think we've ever removed it, although I've tried to at least a couple times.
  386. [2011-12-27 02:20:03] <WaryObserver> Well, assuming peace, what do we want for hand repairs?
  387. [2011-12-27 02:20:08] <MrTT> Likewise ironybot
  388. [2011-12-27 02:20:09] <WaryObserver> Slain Enher?
  389. [2011-12-27 02:20:10] <Ironybot> Because of that I would be very wary of any plan which relies on them not having admin rights.
  390. [2011-12-27 02:20:33] <MrTT> I don't quite remember what we arranged with him last time
  391. [2011-12-27 02:20:37] <WaryObserver> Because Og questions could fix a fair deal of problems
  392. [2011-12-27 02:20:42] <MrTT> did he or did he not give up armas valkonen's soul?
  393. [2011-12-27 02:20:53] <WaryObserver> We agreed to settle an ambiguous
  394. [2011-12-27 02:20:58] <WaryObserver> "this'
  395. [2011-12-27 02:21:10] <WaryObserver> Third bob post from the bottom
  396. [2011-12-27 02:21:13] <MrTT> so really nothing was agreed on fully, just that he will come here and we talk
  397. [2011-12-27 02:21:23] <WaryObserver> Hammer out the deal, basiccaly
  398. [2011-12-27 02:21:59] <Ironybot> Well, regardless of what we do, I'm thinking that keeping the Russians WELL away from the area is essential.
  399. [2011-12-27 02:22:00] <MrTT> Also, I considered talking to it in the room we made for the redcaps
  400. [2011-12-27 02:22:08] <WaryObserver> Agreed
  401. [2011-12-27 02:22:09] <MrTT> Everyone should be away
  402. [2011-12-27 02:22:13] <MrTT> this is just us and it
  403. [2011-12-27 02:22:32] <WaryObserver> And amen, should we fix its hand
  404. [2011-12-27 02:22:41] <WaryObserver> For a very short time
  405. [2011-12-27 02:22:49] <Ironybot> I want Shadowbro there, Iron Trick, and maybe Sake, if we're going to be making binding agreements dependent upon exact wording.
  406. [2011-12-27 02:23:04] <WaryObserver> Doesn't that go without saying?
  407. [2011-12-27 02:23:19] <WaryObserver> they're our Straight men
  408. [2011-12-27 02:23:24] <WaryObserver> Keeps us in line
  409. [2011-12-27 02:23:29] <Ironybot> Well, normally I would say yes, but the phrase "this is just us and it" implies otherwise.
  410. [2011-12-27 02:23:44] <Ironybot> I was making my disagreement with that absolute explicit.
  411. [2011-12-27 02:24:28] <MrTT> the thing is, it is tempting as hell to not trade with it, rather to capture it and feed it to whaitiri
  412. [2011-12-27 02:24:38] <MrTT> especially considering what bob said in IRC about that devil
  413. [2011-12-27 02:24:49] <WaryObserver> Which log?
  414. [2011-12-27 02:24:54] <MrTT> a bunch of them
  415. [2011-12-27 02:25:02] <WaryObserver> Any quotes?
  416. [2011-12-27 02:25:08] <WaryObserver> Do you have any*
  417. [2011-12-27 02:25:11] <Ironybot> State explicitly what comments you're referring to, please. With exact phrasing or quotes if possible.
  418. [2011-12-27 02:25:12] <MrTT> basically it wants to fuck us up. will interfere with our doonie fight, and has significant reason ot want us messe dup
  419. [2011-12-27 02:25:32] <MrTT> Oh right I will just pull out exact quotes and timestamps from my positronic anus
  420. [2011-12-27 02:25:47] <MrTT> beep beep,... I R CYBORD
  421. [2011-12-27 02:25:49] <MrTT> CYBORG
  422. [2011-12-27 02:25:50] <WaryObserver> Does your anus do birthday parties?
  423. [2011-12-27 02:25:51] <Ironybot> One must question why you bothered having a positronic anus installed.
  424. [2011-12-27 02:26:28] <MrTT> anyways it is really fucking annoying when people make such demands... like everyone walks around with stacks of easily referenced quotes
  425. [2011-12-27 02:26:54] <WaryObserver> Could just ask bob if he said such things.
  426. [2011-12-27 02:27:02] <WaryObserver> Clear that mess up good
  427. [2011-12-27 02:27:11] <MrTT> or we could dig through logs
  428. [2011-12-27 02:27:17] <MrTT> but regardless it will be horribly meta
  429. [2011-12-27 02:27:28] <Ironybot> I walk around with stacks of easily referenced quotes, given that "easily referenced" involves a few minutes of searching.
  430. [2011-12-27 02:28:20] <Ironybot> Admittedly I don't normally use them, but logs are important to keep on hand. Primary sources are invaluable.
  431. [2011-12-27 02:29:04] <PriceisMagic> MyDNSisbestintheworldBob Does the Japan thing have anything to do with our Secret admirer?
  432. [2011-12-27 02:29:23] <WaryObserver> The Japan this is actually going to happen...?
  433. [2011-12-27 02:29:29] <WaryObserver> What the hell
  434. [2011-12-27 02:29:36] <PriceisMagic> uh
  435. [2011-12-27 02:29:37] <PriceisMagic> Yeah
  436. [2011-12-27 02:29:56] <PriceisMagic> Well from hat I gathered it is
  437. [2011-12-27 02:30:00] <PriceisMagic> what*
  438. [2011-12-27 02:30:05] <Ironybot> The Japan thing may or may not actually happen in a reasonable timeframe. The game moves rather slowly, after all, and it would be a major story arc.
  439. [2011-12-27 02:30:35] <Ironybot> Further, it is contingent on us fighting certain Yakuza members in-game or otherwise triggering it.
  440. [2011-12-27 02:30:47] <PriceisMagic> Yeah, I dont excpet it to happen tomorrow or anything
  441. [2011-12-27 02:30:52] <PriceisMagic> expect*
  442. [2011-12-27 02:31:04] <WaryObserver> ... If we fight a bunch of nazis' do we get sent back to ww11?
  443. [2011-12-27 02:31:11] <MrTT> hummingbro
  444. [2011-12-27 02:31:50] <MrTT> way
  445. [2011-12-27 02:31:56] <MrTT> the yakuzas have the golden death gods
  446. [2011-12-27 02:32:10] <MrTT> 8 master practitioner warrior wearing artifact armor
  447. [2011-12-27 02:32:30] <MrTT> presumably one of them will banish us to the past if we fight them
  448. [2011-12-27 02:32:41] <MrTT> well, to an alternate universe past
  449. [2011-12-27 02:32:49] <WaryObserver> So japan is dependant on us losing?
  450. [2011-12-27 02:33:17] <mib_d1evub> Nah
  451. [2011-12-27 02:33:20] <mib_d1evub> There are like five paths
  452. [2011-12-27 02:33:31] <mib_d1evub> One involving two yakuza wizards sending us back
  453. [2011-12-27 02:33:44] <mib_d1evub> Another if a major Japanese sword sage wants our help
  454. [2011-12-27 02:33:52] <WaryObserver> The yakuza have TWO wizards?
  455. [2011-12-27 02:33:54] <mib_d1evub> Another if some Oni dudes send us back through dream magic
  456. [2011-12-27 02:33:57] <PriceisMagic> I thought it would take a Ruling Dragon/High end Wizrad/High end God a large amount of power to move someone through realitys
  457. [2011-12-27 02:34:02] <PriceisMagic> Wizard*
  458. [2011-12-27 02:34:31] <MrTT> there are multiple paths there, multiple paths back
  459. [2011-12-27 02:34:40] <PriceisMagic> hmmmmm
  460. [2011-12-27 02:34:43] <MrTT> and unless we fuck it up, we come back to the moment we left
  461. [2011-12-27 02:34:44] <MrTT> only stronger
  462. [2011-12-27 02:34:49] <PriceisMagic> What do we want though?
  463. [2011-12-27 02:34:54] <PriceisMagic> No magic
  464. [2011-12-27 02:34:56] <PriceisMagic> Low magic
  465. [2011-12-27 02:34:59] <PriceisMagic> Mid magic
  466. [2011-12-27 02:35:00] <PriceisMagic> OR
  467. [2011-12-27 02:35:04] <PriceisMagic> High magic
  468. [2011-12-27 02:35:04] <MrTT> i don't think we choose
  469. [2011-12-27 02:35:10] <PriceisMagic> I know
  470. [2011-12-27 02:35:10] <MrTT> but japan is known as "hardmode"
  471. [2011-12-27 02:35:14] <PriceisMagic> what would you prefer?
  472. [2011-12-27 02:35:19] <MrTT> high magic
  473. [2011-12-27 02:35:28] <WaryObserver> GQ esq High magic
  474. [2011-12-27 02:35:29] <PriceisMagic> Low
  475. [2011-12-27 02:35:31] <MrTT> the more magic the harder it is... but the greater the rewards
  476. [2011-12-27 02:35:34] <WaryObserver> Or low
  477. [2011-12-27 02:35:40] <WaryObserver> With a bunch of gods
  478. [2011-12-27 02:35:49] <PriceisMagic> Low would make us seem MUCH stronger then we really are
  479. [2011-12-27 02:35:49] <MrTT> thats high is it not
  480. [2011-12-27 02:36:13] <PriceisMagic> "OMG here comes that unkillable god eating guy!"
  481. [2011-12-27 02:36:30] <WaryObserver> Omg?
  482. [2011-12-27 02:36:32] <MrTT> you realize that we can abuse the fuck out of timeskips in the past thing
  483. [2011-12-27 02:36:37] <MrTT> soul grows with age
  484. [2011-12-27 02:36:39] <MrTT> so does SB
  485. [2011-12-27 02:36:42] <WaryObserver> A dude in that setting only has ONE?
  486. [2011-12-27 02:36:53] <MrTT> in the past we find a monestary that teaches chakra
  487. [2011-12-27 02:36:59] <MrTT> spend 15 years mastering chakra
  488. [2011-12-27 02:37:03] <MrTT> as a simple student
  489. [2011-12-27 02:37:16] <MrTT> then go out into the world finding a way back to exactly the moment you left
  490. [2011-12-27 02:37:19] <Ironybot> The problem with the timeskips thing is that time travel isn't; it's travel between dimensions one of which resembles the past of the other. There's no actual time difference.
  491. [2011-12-27 02:37:20] <MrTT> armas is already unaging
  492. [2011-12-27 02:37:39] <MrTT> that is not the problem ironybot, its the exploitable mechanic
  493. [2011-12-27 02:37:44] <WaryObserver> If we get sent into the past, what happens to AMen?
  494. [2011-12-27 02:37:53] <MrTT> I am saying if armas timeskips 100 years in "the past"
  495. [2011-12-27 02:37:59] <MrTT> he comes back to the future to the moment he left
  496. [2011-12-27 02:38:03] <MrTT> with 100 years worth of training
  497. [2011-12-27 02:38:14] <Shot__> :|
  498. [2011-12-27 02:38:22] <Ironybot> So if we return to our original dimension we have no guarantee that 15 years won't have passed there as well; if we return to the moment we left, we'll actually be going to a third dimension largely identical to the way the one we departed from was at that point.
  499. [2011-12-27 02:38:26] <WaryObserver> Welp, there goes BC's trainiing arc
  500. [2011-12-27 02:38:35] <Shot__> MrTT
  501. [2011-12-27 02:38:37] <PriceisMagic> Uh
  502. [2011-12-27 02:38:38] <Shot__> You are aware
  503. [2011-12-27 02:38:39] <PriceisMagic> Bob said
  504. [2011-12-27 02:38:45] <PriceisMagic> We will return the same time we left
  505. [2011-12-27 02:38:49] <Shot__> That playing a 100 years of game time
  506. [2011-12-27 02:38:49] <MrTT> @Ironybot: Bob basically said that unless we horribly mangle it, we return to the instant we left
  507. [2011-12-27 02:38:58] <MrTT> if we do horribly mangle it we could return to the wrong spot though
  508. [2011-12-27 02:39:05] <Ironybot> Hrm.
  509. [2011-12-27 02:39:06] <Shot__> Would be tantamount to forcing Bob to make questing a family tradition
  510. [2011-12-27 02:39:07] <PriceisMagic> Which is easy to do though
  511. [2011-12-27 02:39:14] <MrTT> the beutify of it though is that we do not play 100 years of game time
  512. [2011-12-27 02:39:22] <WaryObserver> Timeskips Ho!
  513. [2011-12-27 02:39:29] <MrTT> ok... remember how the goblins gave armas 25 years of NN training?
  514. [2011-12-27 02:39:37] <Shot__> I know, I'm just remembering Zeonquest
  515. [2011-12-27 02:39:42] <PriceisMagic> We could abuse that shit to Be better then Lo Fang at Chakras.....
  516. [2011-12-27 02:39:48] <MrTT> And you know how there are magic schools in china run by dragons
  517. [2011-12-27 02:39:50] <Shot__> And the author near the end being like "Oh god this will never end"
  518. [2011-12-27 02:40:04] <MrTT> those schools are SAFE
  519. [2011-12-27 02:40:09] <MrTT> we go join one such school
  520. [2011-12-27 02:40:11] <MrTT> do nothing but study
  521. [2011-12-27 02:40:12] <PriceisMagic> Zeonquest?
  522. [2011-12-27 02:40:13] <MrTT> do not raise hell
  523. [2011-12-27 02:40:18] <MrTT> do not break the rules
  524. [2011-12-27 02:40:24] <MrTT> study for 100 years
  525. [2011-12-27 02:40:30] <MrTT> timeskip
  526. [2011-12-27 02:40:38] <MrTT> then we leave the school and find a way back
  527. [2011-12-27 02:40:41] <PriceisMagic> ..nah
  528. [2011-12-27 02:40:47] <PriceisMagic> That would be to easy
  529. [2011-12-27 02:41:04] <MrTT> @priceismagic: That is exactly it :P
  530. [2011-12-27 02:41:06] <WaryObserver> A few actively done lessons would be nice inbewteen the skips
  531. [2011-12-27 02:41:12] <Shot__> it's either that TT or we have two Armas's running a-
  532. [2011-12-27 02:41:16] <Shot__> :| :| :|
  533. [2011-12-27 02:41:22] <Shot__> NOTE GUY
  534. [2011-12-27 02:41:37] <MrTT> Hey... we could send armas a package containing a devbil's hand and a note :P
  535. [2011-12-27 02:41:37] <Shot__> ... Naaah.
  536. [2011-12-27 02:42:03] <WaryObserver> Damn you
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  538. [2011-12-27 02:42:22] <WaryObserver> Armas Valk is Armas laine who couldn't get back from japan
  539. [2011-12-27 02:42:31] <PriceisMagic> DUN DUN No
  540. [2011-12-27 02:42:41] <MrTT> bob said outright that he isn't
  541. [2011-12-27 02:42:47] <MrTT> also that this is an alterative universe
  542. [2011-12-27 02:42:57] <WaryObserver> Really?
  543. [2011-12-27 02:43:05] <MrTT> although if we are REALLY ambitious, we could try to lay low for a few hundred years and follow ourselves to learn secrets
  544. [2011-12-27 02:43:07] <WaryObserver> I thought i saw a tech hating dragon yesterday
  545. [2011-12-27 02:43:24] <MrTT> the biggest problem is that armas is a danger and trouble magnet
  546. [2011-12-27 02:43:31] <MrTT> even if he gets admitted into dragon run magic school
  547. [2011-12-27 02:43:44] <WaryObserver> We could see what happens to us during the blank motnth in the middle east
  548. [2011-12-27 02:44:08] <MrTT> btw the dragon run magic school is only in china, because the yellow emperor was so fucking boss he ascended into god-wizard and made the chinese dragons run a school for magically gifted humans in china
  549. [2011-12-27 02:44:26] <WaryObserver> Do we have to be chinese to join?
  550. [2011-12-27 02:44:48] <MrTT> if we do, we will have to get training in flesh manip to make ourselves appear chinese
  551. [2011-12-27 02:44:50] <MrTT> :)
  552. [2011-12-27 02:44:57] <MrTT> flesh manip + darkening = perfect at disguise
  553. [2011-12-27 02:44:58] <PriceisMagic> Heh
  554. [2011-12-27 02:45:02] <PriceisMagic> Nope
  555. [2011-12-27 02:45:06] <PriceisMagic> DNA :P
  556. [2011-12-27 02:45:08] <MrTT> since it is an alterative reality I seriously doubt the mongolia event will occur there
  557. [2011-12-27 02:45:16] <PriceisMagic> Need blood manip
  558. [2011-12-27 02:45:20] <MrTT> you think they read your DNA to detect your chinesesness?
  559. [2011-12-27 02:45:37] <PriceisMagic> Yup
  560. [2011-12-27 02:45:40] <WaryObserver> Say chinesesness out loud\
  561. [2011-12-27 02:45:43] <PriceisMagic> Never enuff Paranoia
  562. [2011-12-27 02:45:44] <WaryObserver> Do it
  563. [2011-12-27 02:45:55] <PriceisMagic> I did
  564. [2011-12-27 02:45:57] <MrTT> I did
  565. [2011-12-27 02:46:00] <PriceisMagic> Dont get it
  566. [2011-12-27 02:46:07] <MrTT> it sounds funny
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  568. [2011-12-27 02:46:46] <PriceisMagic> :|
  569. [2011-12-27 02:46:49] <WaryObserver> So, are we going to make peace with that there devil, or is he dinner for our godess?
  570. [2011-12-27 02:46:52] <PriceisMagic> Hi Conil
  571. [2011-12-27 02:47:06] <PriceisMagic> BOTH
  572. [2011-12-27 02:47:17] <PriceisMagic> Nah, If we can I want it as a friend
  573. [2011-12-27 02:47:17] <WaryObserver> ... How,pray tell?
  574. [2011-12-27 02:47:20] =-= Conil`` is now known as Conil
  575. [2011-12-27 02:47:26] <Conil> Yo
  576. [2011-12-27 02:47:28] <PriceisMagic> Foods good though
  577. [2011-12-27 02:47:31] <PriceisMagic> Hi
  578. [2011-12-27 02:48:09] <WaryObserver> The only way i think we could make it a friend is by suddenly becoming powerful enough to save in in a time of neeed pro bono
  579. [2011-12-27 02:48:44] <WaryObserver> A good, but impractical plan, methinks
  580. [2011-12-27 02:48:57] <WaryObserver> It in a*
  581. [2011-12-27 02:53:12] <Ironybot> Argh. Want to figure out a solid devil plan, but I need sleep. Maybe tomorrow, or maybe I'll just have to leave it to you guys.
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  583. [2011-12-27 02:59:00] <WaryObserver> A query: What do we want in exchange for the repair of the hand, provided we do so?
  584. [2011-12-27 03:00:34] <mib_d1evub> As a default offering a soul or repairing the hand would be us purchasing the debt of Armas Valkonen from him.
  585. [2011-12-27 03:01:04] <mib_d1evub> If we did both, like say offered a soul and helped or augmented the hand we could squeeze out additional payment probaby.
  586. [2011-12-27 03:01:44] <WaryObserver> Again i must ask, are those no seperate; the previous thread gave off the implication of such.
  587. [2011-12-27 03:01:55] <WaryObserver> not*
  588. [2011-12-27 03:02:28] <WaryObserver> Oh right
  589. [2011-12-27 03:02:30] <WaryObserver> Default
  590. [2011-12-27 03:03:11] <mib_d1evub> If you want to haggle for more be my guest, but I doubt the devil would ultimately want to lose on his initial investment.
  591. [2011-12-27 03:06:02] <MyDNSisbestintheworldBob> All right, well good night
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  596. [2011-12-27 03:39:37] <Shot__> RED SANDS
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  602. [2011-12-27 05:25:19] <TIMreturned> Oh durr
  603. [2011-12-27 05:25:26] <TIMreturned> The Fin is here
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  607. [2011-12-27 06:54:07] <Arkeus> TIMreturned: Fin?
  608. [2011-12-27 06:54:46] <TIMreturned> Finnish Devil
  609. [2011-12-27 06:54:57] <Arkeus> ah
  610. [2011-12-27 06:54:59] <Arkeus> http://www.batoto.net/read/_/67298/beelzebub_ch138_by_red-hawk-scans/14 ehhehehehe
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  612. [2011-12-27 07:05:23] <Arkeus> WB ManOfTroy
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  626. [2011-12-27 11:33:33] * Arkeus tackles Wutenheimer
  627. [2011-12-27 11:33:44] * Wutenheimer tackles Wutenheimer
  628. [2011-12-27 11:33:55] <Wutenheimer> is this the cool thing to do today guiz?
  629. [2011-12-27 11:34:25] <Arkeus> It's the cool thing to do every day, pinkie.
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  631. [2011-12-27 11:50:05] <Wutenheimer> mornin bob
  632. [2011-12-27 11:51:25] <Arkeus> oh, a bob
  633. [2011-12-27 11:51:34] <Wutenheimer> A WILD BOB APPEARS
  634. [2011-12-27 11:51:40] <Wutenheimer> GO, ARKEUS
  635. [2011-12-27 11:51:59] <Wutenheimer> ARKEUS, USE SPLASH ATTACK
  636. [2011-12-27 11:52:00] * Arkeus stuffs Wutenheimer with a apple tree
  637. [2011-12-27 11:53:08] <TheBeardiestBob> On for like two more minutes, then vanishing for a bit
  638. [2011-12-27 11:53:25] <Arkeus> heh ok
  639. [2011-12-27 11:57:27] <TheBeardiestBob> Okay, gonna try to leave chat idling, we'll see if my computer allows it
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  641. [2011-12-27 12:27:22] <Wutenheimer> reading a bunch of Romanticar updates that i missed
  642. [2011-12-27 12:27:30] <Wutenheimer> goddamn i'm going to have a heart attack
  643. [2011-12-27 12:27:42] <Wutenheimer> dat taisha conversation
  644. [2011-12-27 12:32:21] <Arkeus> http://images.4chan.org/a/src/1325005307334.jpg power of moe
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  646. [2011-12-27 12:36:59] <BUTTZ> My god I slept 16 hours straight
  647. [2011-12-27 12:37:21] <Arkeus> I forgive you, my son.
  648. [2011-12-27 12:37:37] <Arkeus> You now need to make your post
  649. [2011-12-27 12:37:38] <Wutenheimer> wow
  650. [2011-12-27 12:37:44] <Wutenheimer> that's pretty impressive
  651. [2011-12-27 12:37:57] <BUTTZ> I used to do that a lot when I was a teenager
  652. [2011-12-27 12:38:05] <BUTTZ> Hit a growth spurt, sleep a day straight
  653. [2011-12-27 12:38:09] <BUTTZ> Wake up taller
  654. [2011-12-27 12:38:14] <A_Mad_Oyster> I know that feel Buttz...I know that feel.
  655. [2011-12-27 12:41:30] <BUTTZ> Arkeus I'm older than you, dude
  656. [2011-12-27 12:41:42] <Wutenheimer> >page long user review talking about how much the game sucks
  657. [2011-12-27 12:41:45] <Wutenheimer> >8/10
  658. [2011-12-27 12:41:51] <Wutenheimer> fuck you internet. fuck you.
  659. [2011-12-27 12:42:29] <Arkeus> <BUTTZ> My god I slept 16 hours straight <= this, BUTTZ
  660. [2011-12-27 12:42:41] <Arkeus> you are older than me? i wasn't aware.
  661. [2011-12-27 12:42:50] <Arkeus> lol Wutenheimer
  662. [2011-12-27 12:43:43] <Wutenheimer> I'm a year older then you >:|
  663. [2011-12-27 12:44:06] <Arkeus> wut is 27?
  664. [2011-12-27 12:44:20] <Wutenheimer> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hh2qaoGuHkI
  665. [2011-12-27 12:44:21] <Classhole> Wutenheimer: "I'm a year older than you." - length 15s - rated 4.84/5.0 (1163) - 331197 views - Samonuh on 2011.03.17
  666. [2011-12-27 12:46:37] =-= AlratanAway is now known as Alratan
  667. [2011-12-27 12:46:39] <Alratan> Home
  668. [2011-12-27 12:46:51] <Alratan> back to an actual computer, not a phone
  669. [2011-12-27 12:47:15] <Arkeus> feels so good, doesn't it?
  670. [2011-12-27 12:47:16] <Alratan> So, has anyone dicussed lending the devil BB's healing charm to fix his charm yet?
  671. [2011-12-27 12:47:25] <Alratan> sorry, fix his hand yet?
  672. [2011-12-27 12:47:26] <BUTTZ> IRC on a smartphone is like talking over a tin can and string
  673. [2011-12-27 12:47:43] <Alratan> Yeah, it's been really quite anoying
  674. [2011-12-27 12:47:43] <Arkeus> Alratan: would the devil count as bloodless somehow?
  675. [2011-12-27 12:48:05] <Alratan> Arkeus: Possible - Einrik should know
  676. [2011-12-27 12:49:00] <Arkeus> [24-12-2011 | 03:00:11] <Bobcat> 4also, might be good to note BB was fond of boosting the performance of charms by restricting them to only work on un-Blooded humans. <= Humans
  677. [2011-12-27 12:49:02] <Arkeus> so, no
  678. [2011-12-27 12:49:40] <BUTTZ> We'd need to take a good look at the ritual charm to know if it is similarly restricted
  679. [2011-12-27 12:49:57] <Alratan> Item sense?
  680. [2011-12-27 12:50:01] <BUTTZ> It could be that only some of the charms were so restricted
  681. [2011-12-27 12:50:08] <BUTTZ> Item sense, shadow bro, sake.
  682. [2011-12-27 12:50:12] <BUTTZ> Einrik if we can't hack it.
  683. [2011-12-27 12:50:47] <Arkeus> True enough, 'fond of' doesn't mean he did it for all of them. Even though we know he wanted to sell us charms we couldn't use, and this may be the best one.
  684. [2011-12-27 12:51:10] <BUTTZ> I'd expect to see restrictions like those on the disposables
  685. [2011-12-27 12:51:34] <BUTTZ> Detailed svartelf work would be less likely to have a restriction like that
  686. [2011-12-27 12:51:34] <Arkeus> Why the disposables?
  687. [2011-12-27 12:51:39] <BUTTZ> Because they were Indian made
  688. [2011-12-27 12:51:48] <Arkeus> He restricted them after the fact, iirc
  689. [2011-12-27 12:51:49] <BUTTZ> Made by humans, for humans
  690. [2011-12-27 12:52:00] <Arkeus> And actuallty restricted the weaker ones is kinda useless
  691. [2011-12-27 12:52:07] <BUTTZ> I'm not clear on how the restriction process works
  692. [2011-12-27 12:52:13] <Arkeus> None of us is
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  694. [2011-12-27 12:53:14] <Arkeus> If all of you could make posts tonight... this seems like one of those really dangerous updates
  695. [2011-12-27 12:53:29] <BUTTZ> I'll post in the next eight hours anyway
  696. [2011-12-27 12:53:35] <BUTTZ> I'm still waking up
  697. [2011-12-27 12:53:41] <BUTTZ> Not smart to write like that
  698. [2011-12-27 12:53:49] <Arkeus> heh ok, so you'll post for the one after this.
  699. [2011-12-27 12:53:53] <Arkeus> Might be a good call
  700. [2011-12-27 12:55:06] <Alratan> It does suggest that making charms Restricted to godlings might be useful to us
  701. [2011-12-27 12:55:49] <Alratan> As godlings are presumably rarer than un-Blooded humans
  702. [2011-12-27 12:56:01] <BUTTZ> We've met plenty of blooded humans
  703. [2011-12-27 12:56:08] <BUTTZ> We're the only godling we know
  704. [2011-12-27 12:56:15] <Arkeus> and Dual blooded Godlings are even rarer
  705. [2011-12-27 12:57:50] <Alratan> And Dual opposed season ones perhaps even moreso
  706. [2011-12-27 12:58:57] <Alratan> We know that charms to boost spirit animals exist
  707. [2011-12-27 12:59:38] <Alratan> so one of those designed to boost Hummingbird predator spirits attached to opposed bloodline godlings might be particularly unique
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  709. [2011-12-27 13:17:42] <Alratan> Arkeus: A question on your post. Do you mean we substitute healing his hand for a life/soul - as it seems looking back on the last thread that he wants both
  710. [2011-12-27 13:18:31] <Arkeus> Yes, substitute if possible
  711. [2011-12-27 13:18:41] <Arkeus> I don't feel it's either safe or moral to give him a soul
  712. [2011-12-27 13:19:03] <Arkeus> I also would prefer giving him nothing, but whatever we do, we MUST 'settle this'
  713. [2011-12-27 13:19:16] <Alratan> My concern is that we don't have the authority to offer the hobo's life or soul
  714. [2011-12-27 13:19:39] <Alratan> and it could destroy our reputation
  715. [2011-12-27 13:20:01] <Arkeus> More than our reputation
  716. [2011-12-27 13:20:33] <Arkeus> Trading in illegal souls seems like a one-way ticket to the dragon's jaw
  717. [2011-12-27 13:20:45] <Alratan> We don't have to trade its soul
  718. [2011-12-27 13:20:54] <Alratan> The deal was for life or for soul
  719. [2011-12-27 13:21:02] <Alratan> I'm happy to trade the bobos life
  720. [2011-12-27 13:21:05] <Alratan> *hobo
  721. [2011-12-27 13:21:46] <Arkeus> Hobos' life is safer, yes.
  722. [2011-12-27 13:22:26] <Alratan> if it's allowed
  723. [2011-12-27 13:22:40] <Alratan> I wouldn't want any of our friends or allies to know though
  724. [2011-12-27 13:23:02] <Arkeus> "Safer" doesn't mean 'good'
  725. [2011-12-27 13:23:36] <Arkeus> We can very easily 'settle this' from the doorway, telling him we owe him nothing but we could exchange armas V's soul for healing his hand
  726. [2011-12-27 13:23:51] <Alratan> he's already told us he's not accepting that
  727. [2011-12-27 13:24:28] <Arkeus> That was before we were clear we owed him nothing, iirc
  728. [2011-12-27 13:24:34] <Alratan> back on the mountain
  729. [2011-12-27 13:25:12] <Alratan> I wonder if the best approach is to get him inside, order Amen to shield everyone else from collateral damage, and let Einrik ambush him
  730. [2011-12-27 13:25:47] <BUTTZ> It'd be rude to presume that Einrik wants to ambush it
  731. [2011-12-27 13:25:50] <Alratan> The devil has already struck the first blow against him
  732. [2011-12-27 13:25:59] <Alratan> but yes, we'd have to check with Einrik first
  733. [2011-12-27 13:26:09] <Arkeus> Einrik already told us no
  734. [2011-12-27 13:26:31] <Alratan> On the mountain?
  735. [2011-12-27 13:27:22] <BUTTZ> His aversion to getting entangled in demonic dealings was covered in Finland, and perhaps reviewed once
  736. [2011-12-27 13:27:44] <Alratan> This isn't a demon
  737. [2011-12-27 13:28:05] <BUTTZ> It's infernal
  738. [2011-12-27 13:28:12] <Alratan> although the same principle may apply
  739. [2011-12-27 13:28:15] <BUTTZ> I think he precisely used the term infernal
  740. [2011-12-27 13:29:58] <BUTTZ> You know with Amen secured now, we could just say to the devil "You may kill me here so that our dealings are complete"
  741. [2011-12-27 13:30:12] <Arkeus> add *try*
  742. [2011-12-27 13:30:15] <BUTTZ> Let him kill us, come back thanks to Romanov, and tell him to get out
  743. [2011-12-27 13:30:18] <Arkeus> or some ambiguous phrasing
  744. [2011-12-27 13:30:21] <Arkeus> Oh
  745. [2011-12-27 13:30:24] <Arkeus> Good point
  746. [2011-12-27 13:30:30] <Arkeus> We'd lose our meats, but good point
  747. [2011-12-27 13:30:33] <Arkeus> :(
  748. [2011-12-27 13:30:44] <Alratan> He can kill us with something that destroys the soul as a side effect though
  749. [2011-12-27 13:31:03] <BUTTZ> Specify that he do nothing that can harm the soul then
  750. [2011-12-27 13:31:05] <Arkeus> as long as our soul isn't permanently dead, iot works too
  751. [2011-12-27 13:31:21] <BUTTZ> Do you guys think the basic idea is sound?
  752. [2011-12-27 13:31:24] <Arkeus> Or specify to Amen he is to protect our soul right now, maybe
  753. [2011-12-27 13:31:37] <Alratan> What Amen considers protecting is a bit concerning
  754. [2011-12-27 13:31:42] <Arkeus> The basic idea isn't bad, but i am loath to lose our phoenix/erinyes
  755. [2011-12-27 13:31:44] <BUTTZ> I would not involve Amen
  756. [2011-12-27 13:31:48] <Arkeus> fair enough
  757. [2011-12-27 13:31:50] <Alratan> preserving ucnhanging for eternity
  758. [2011-12-27 13:32:03] <BUTTZ> Ok so we have a Plan B here
  759. [2011-12-27 13:32:19] <Arkeus> Giving the hobbo's life should be plan E
  760. [2011-12-27 13:32:25] <Arkeus> and giving the soul should be plan Z
  761. [2011-12-27 13:32:48] <Alratan> Do we know what happens to the hummingbird if we die before it's a spirit animal?
  762. [2011-12-27 13:33:25] <Arkeus> nothing, i expect
  763. [2011-12-27 13:33:51] <Alratan> How do we know?
  764. [2011-12-27 13:34:16] <Alratan> It's the potential surge in Winter power I'm concerned about
  765. [2011-12-27 13:34:22] <Arkeus> Because it'so only tied to our soul, specifically our godliong bits, unless we messed up
  766. [2011-12-27 13:34:29] <Arkeus> Ah.
  767. [2011-12-27 13:34:43] <Arkeus> Right, it might shorten it's life span in a worse case scenario
  768. [2011-12-27 13:34:48] <Alratan> My worry is we'll fry it
  769. [2011-12-27 13:35:14] <Arkeus> Also, theh ummingbird is already a spirit animal
  770. [2011-12-27 13:35:17] <Arkeus> it just also has a body
  771. [2011-12-27 13:35:28] <Alratan> Interesting
  772. [2011-12-27 13:35:44] <Alratan> I thought it wasn't actually a spirit animal until it dies
  773. [2011-12-27 13:35:49] <Arkeus> Well... i might be wrong
  774. [2011-12-27 13:36:04] <Arkeus> We can use its spirit animals anbility, but maybe it hasn't lost free will yet
  775. [2011-12-27 13:36:24] <Alratan> it may never loose free will at any stage, if we do this right
  776. [2011-12-27 13:36:40] <Alratan> I hope
  777. [2011-12-27 13:37:10] <Arkeus> It will still lose free will- but we would be able to make it excersice its full will
  778. [2011-12-27 13:37:35] -->| Shot__ (~chatzilla@Rizon-F5C6A117.dyn.centurytel.net) has joined #golemquest
  779. [2011-12-27 13:38:12] <Alratan> Buttz: I've checked the threads, the word infernal appears three times. Twice in the first thread describing Mammon's device, and once in the latest describing a phone. Einrik never says it
  780. [2011-12-27 13:38:35] <Alratan> Arkeus: perhaps, but I don't think we know enough about the process to say
  781. [2011-12-27 13:38:44] <Shot__> http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/GodzillaThreshold /mentally renames this the Amen Threshold
  782. [2011-12-27 13:39:03] <Alratan> if it is willing at every stage, and its free will doesn't fight against the process, who knows what would happen
  783. [2011-12-27 13:39:14] <Arkeus> >[EV][In Finnish]"I couldn't begin to guess-interacting with Demonic or Devilish entities has a rather consistent trend of escalation to it. As such I've made few efforts to learn much of them. Divine, Angelic, Wizardly matters, some of the Dark, Chakras, Winter as a whole-there is much I've studied, but little I wouldn't want to personally use."
  784. [2011-12-27 13:40:10] <Alratan> Right
  785. [2011-12-27 13:40:53] <Alratan> WOuld seem to preclude it
  786. [2011-12-27 13:41:09] <Alratan> What is interesting about the last battle, is that the devil attacked him first
  787. [2011-12-27 13:43:37] <Arkeus> Isn't that an assumption?
  788. [2011-12-27 13:43:51] <Alratan> A small one, perhaps
  789. [2011-12-27 13:43:59] <Alratan> It certainly approached him, rather than us
  790. [2011-12-27 13:45:12] <Arkeus> It was waiting at the ramidreju's
  791. [2011-12-27 13:45:24] <TheBeardiestBob> So, something to consider
  792. [2011-12-27 13:45:42] <TheBeardiestBob> in spiritual planes, the size of one's physical body is immaterial-and soul mass counts less than soul weight
  793. [2011-12-27 13:45:43] <Alratan> The devil after Armas Valkonen
  794. [2011-12-27 13:46:00] <TheBeardiestBob> by this metric, the hummingbird would have a soul roughly equivalent in scale to Armas.
  795. [2011-12-27 13:46:00] <Arkeus> Very interesting
  796. [2011-12-27 13:46:09] <TheBeardiestBob> Armas v. Bird mental training?
  797. [2011-12-27 13:46:37] <Alratan> Can't we can bind creatures up tp three times our weight, or was that just eating?
  798. [2011-12-27 13:46:48] <Arkeus> Does that mean Armas' going to become the bird's spiritual animal?
  799. [2011-12-27 13:46:56] <Arkeus> Alratan: that was both
  800. [2011-12-27 13:47:09] <Alratan> Also, why is my post from yesterday gone
  801. [2011-12-27 13:47:23] <Alratan> or did I not post it?
  802. [2011-12-27 13:47:24] <Arkeus> OTOH, i was wondering why you want to teach it chakra
  803. [2011-12-27 13:47:28] <TheBeardiestBob> Yes, Arlatan, that is true for both. Arkeus: no, because the spirit animal bond judges on soul weight and mass independently to the skewed scale used in purely spiritual realms.
  804. [2011-12-27 13:47:33] <Arkeus> Alratan: didn't see anything from you
  805. [2011-12-27 13:47:53] <Arkeus> TheBeardiestBob: thanks Armas
  806. [2011-12-27 13:47:55] <Alratan> I'm sure I said something about Armas vs. bird training
  807. [2011-12-27 13:47:58] <Arkeus> I mean, Thanks god
  808. [2011-12-27 13:48:10] <Arkeus> Alratan: maybe that was before the last update?
  809. [2011-12-27 13:48:16] <Alratan> yes
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  811. [2011-12-27 13:48:27] <Alratan> and about inviting the bird into our demiplane to look around and mark territory
  812. [2011-12-27 13:48:42] <Arkeus> So, Al, why do you want to teach it chakra? wouldn't it need a body to use them?
  813. [2011-12-27 13:48:49] <Alratan> Perhaps
  814. [2011-12-27 13:48:52] <Arkeus> Also, bob, we had a point of contention a while ago
  815. [2011-12-27 13:48:59] <Alratan> SB has a chakra system and no physical body
  816. [2011-12-27 13:49:03] <Arkeus> Will SB be able to learn and use different chakra abilities later on?
  817. [2011-12-27 13:49:08] <TheBeardiestBob> There's... nothing really in the Demiplane right now but the lobotomized monster, and SB's relocated pad. You do know that, right?
  818. [2011-12-27 13:49:19] <The_Greedy_Bastard> ohai dere bob
  819. [2011-12-27 13:49:20] <TheBeardiestBob> Do you want the hummingbird claiming SB's turf?
  820. [2011-12-27 13:49:26] <Arkeus> ahahahhaha
  821. [2011-12-27 13:49:28] <Arkeus> :D
  822. [2011-12-27 13:49:30] <Arkeus> Trolling
  823. [2011-12-27 13:49:42] <Alratan> I want to show it the bad, and suggest that it too could make such a place
  824. [2011-12-27 13:49:42] <The_Greedy_Bastard> Did I miss something important...?
  825. [2011-12-27 13:49:50] <Alratan> *show it the pad
  826. [2011-12-27 13:49:57] <Alratan> as a nest for himself
  827. [2011-12-27 13:50:44] <BUTTZ> Has Armas had the world eye idea in-game yet?
  828. [2011-12-27 13:52:02] <Alratan> I wonder what the other options are for the demiplane
  829. [2011-12-27 13:52:20] <Alratan> as its a spiritual realm, it sounds like an ideal place to learn spirit manipulation
  830. [2011-12-27 13:52:46] <The_Greedy_Bastard> Bah, that demiplane is large as fuck
  831. [2011-12-27 13:52:55] <The_Greedy_Bastard> Why not...divide it into sections for each plan?
  832. [2011-12-27 13:53:08] <Alratan> is it that big?
  833. [2011-12-27 13:53:20] <Alratan> I thought it was the size of a large room
  834. [2011-12-27 13:53:35] <The_Greedy_Bastard> Well, if it was big enough for us to run around fighting AMEN...
  835. [2011-12-27 13:53:45] <Alratan> more than happy to be proved wrong though
  836. [2011-12-27 13:54:38] <Arkeus> I think it's as big as we think it is
  837. [2011-12-27 13:54:59] <The_Greedy_Bastard> Well then, let's make Armas think it's a VOID
  838. [2011-12-27 13:56:18] <BUTTZ> It's a spiritual contruct, you shouldn't think of it as volumetric euclidian space but instead as having a capacity dictated by information storage alone
  839. [2011-12-27 13:57:01] <Alratan> That's another interesting possibility
  840. [2011-12-27 13:57:07] <Alratan> keep our memories in there
  841. [2011-12-27 13:57:22] <Arkeus> We aren't so good at manipulating memories yet
  842. [2011-12-27 13:57:24] <Alratan> so we can review lessons and experiences multiple times to extract all we can from them
  843. [2011-12-27 13:59:47] <BUTTZ> Funny though how Armas is a godling with his own demiplane
  844. [2011-12-27 14:00:57] <Arkeus> Yep, 'funny'
  845. [2011-12-27 14:01:19] <The_Greedy_Bastard> ehehehehehehe
  846. [2011-12-27 14:02:23] <TIMreturned> So
  847. [2011-12-27 14:02:36] <TIMreturned> Current plan for the devil?
  848. [2011-12-27 14:03:04] <Alratan> hope for the best
  849. [2011-12-27 14:03:06] <The_Greedy_Bastard> Kill him, feed to Silja, sacrifice soul to Whaitiri, mindrip important info?
  850. [2011-12-27 14:03:23] <TIMreturned> ...
  851. [2011-12-27 14:03:24] <BUTTZ> TIM we have a plan B where we just let him kill Armas and call it a day
  852. [2011-12-27 14:03:27] <Arkeus> 12[18-12-2011 | 02:35:37] <Arkeus> New thing to try would be making our demi-plane a full plane, i guess
  853. [2011-12-27 14:03:27] <Arkeus> 12[18-12-2011 | 02:35:51] <Arkeus> Would that be possible without becoming a god, i wonder...
  854. [2011-12-27 14:03:27] <Arkeus> [18-12-2011 | 02:36:20] <ForPMingBob> Careful Arkeus-I wonder what happens if the spiritual weight of your demiplane-turned-plane exceeds that of your own soul....
  855. [2011-12-27 14:03:53] <Arkeus> This was in main chat, btw
  856. [2011-12-27 14:04:08] <TIMreturned> Eye-splodings
  857. [2011-12-27 14:04:20] <Alratan> I wonder if we can make the demiplane part of our soul
  858. [2011-12-27 14:05:12] <TIMreturned> Well presumably we could tie Armas' soul to the eye, but then the eye is a a bit like a soul jar
  859. [2011-12-27 14:05:16] <TIMreturned> Wait no
  860. [2011-12-27 14:05:19] <TIMreturned> Not a bit
  861. [2011-12-27 14:05:20] <TIMreturned> IS
  862. [2011-12-27 14:05:53] <BUTTZ> Don't add too much pressure, it'll pop
  863. [2011-12-27 14:06:23] <Alratan> Some kind of recursive thing maybe, with our soul inside the demiplane which is inside our soul
  864. [2011-12-27 14:07:27] <The_Greedy_Bastard> soulception
  865. [2011-12-27 14:07:43] <Alratan> pretty much
  866. [2011-12-27 14:07:58] <Arkeus> +ignore The_Greedy_Idiot
  867. [2011-12-27 14:08:07] <TIMreturned> Well no way that could go wrong Al
  868. [2011-12-27 14:08:08] <The_Greedy_Bastard> >.>
  869. [2011-12-27 14:08:13] <TIMreturned> No way at all
  870. [2011-12-27 14:08:20] <TIMreturned> Apart from that
  871. [2011-12-27 14:08:22] <TIMreturned> Not bad
  872. [2011-12-27 14:08:35] <Alratan> The thought is that they have to grow at the same rate
  873. [2011-12-27 14:08:51] <Alratan> as they're locked together, on the inside and the outside
  874. [2011-12-27 14:08:56] <Arkeus> TIMreturned: you have to post! we are lost without your Timdom!
  875. [2011-12-27 14:15:03] <TIMreturned> Well, I'll post
  876. [2011-12-27 14:15:05] <TIMreturned> But
  877. [2011-12-27 14:15:13] <TIMreturned> Really what is the plan?
  878. [2011-12-27 14:15:19] =-= Conil`` is now known as Conil
  879. [2011-12-27 14:15:35] <Arkeus> That's why you need to post
  880. [2011-12-27 14:16:07] <TIMreturned> So the plan is for me to come up with a plan? This sounds like it could end badly
  881. [2011-12-27 14:16:22] <Arkeus> Now now.
  882. [2011-12-27 14:16:36] <Arkeus> 'This can't end badly' is what we say
  883. [2011-12-27 14:16:42] <The_Greedy_Bastard> And it does.
  884. [2011-12-27 14:17:25] <TIMreturned> Ok well
  885. [2011-12-27 14:17:34] <TIMreturned> How about a memory gambit?
  886. [2011-12-27 14:17:45] <Arkeus> But, yeah, bob wanted to post over 15hrs ago, but lack of suggestions.
  887. [2011-12-27 14:17:58] <Arkeus> Elaborate please
  888. [2011-12-27 14:18:28] <TIMreturned> As in we make a plan, set it in motion then erase our memory of it, or parts of it
  889. [2011-12-27 14:18:43] <Arkeus> Why need to do that?
  890. [2011-12-27 14:18:47] <The_Greedy_Bastard> ^Why?
  891. [2011-12-27 14:18:52] <TIMreturned> Fun?
  892. [2011-12-27 14:18:57] <The_Greedy_Bastard> No, it's not fun
  893. [2011-12-27 14:19:04] <TIMreturned> killing the devil then
  894. [2011-12-27 14:19:06] <The_Greedy_Bastard> Wiping your memories of stuff you do is never fun
  895. [2011-12-27 14:19:34] <TIMreturned> Also I'm not sure feeding him to Silja is wise
  896. [2011-12-27 14:20:17] <Arkeus> Definitely not
  897. [2011-12-27 14:20:25] <Alratan> I would prefer to feed all of him, body and soul to Whaitiri
  898. [2011-12-27 14:20:32] <Alratan> if we kill him
  899. [2011-12-27 14:20:36] <TIMreturned> So, remind me, what exactly did we agree to with the devil
  900. [2011-12-27 14:20:40] <Alratan> and then have SB remove our memories of it
  901. [2011-12-27 14:20:48] <Alratan> to "resolve this"
  902. [2011-12-27 14:20:49] <The_Greedy_Bastard> "To sort things out at the mansion"
  903. [2011-12-27 14:20:58] <Alratan> sorry, Greeedy has it rough
  904. [2011-12-27 14:21:18] <TIMreturned> That would be way too sweet
  905. [2011-12-27 14:21:23] <Alratan> that was just ater it told is that deals like this lasted until both initial parties die
  906. [2011-12-27 14:21:34] <Alratan> and we suggested that a life could resolve the situation
  907. [2011-12-27 14:21:48] <Alratan> so killing him would be within the terms of our deal
  908. [2011-12-27 14:21:53] <TIMreturned> Ah
  909. [2011-12-27 14:21:56] <TIMreturned> So
  910. [2011-12-27 14:22:04] <TIMreturned> We just try to kill him then
  911. [2011-12-27 14:22:08] <TIMreturned> ...
  912. [2011-12-27 14:22:18] <TIMreturned> how quickly can Amen make a room?
  913. [2011-12-27 14:22:28] <The_Greedy_Bastard> So, he's in our trap, and we're in his too. But we have no other choice, killing him and falling in his trap is better than letting this situation spiral down into madness
  914. [2011-12-27 14:23:56] <TIMreturned> We have two options both of which can be done in a varity of ways and locations within the mansion
  915. [2011-12-27 14:23:57] <Arkeus> Depending on the update time, it might be worth it to edit our posts to grab 5555 palindrome
  916. [2011-12-27 14:24:05] <The_Greedy_Bastard> There's simply no way that Devil wouldn't have prepared something in case he dies, knowing that AMEN's in the mansion
  917. [2011-12-27 14:24:13] <Arkeus> ^
  918. [2011-12-27 14:24:15] <TIMreturned> 1.Manipulate the Devil to willing death
  919. [2011-12-27 14:24:32] <TIMreturned> 2.Forcably kill him
  920. [2011-12-27 14:24:33] <Alratan> We've already done that, I think
  921. [2011-12-27 14:25:00] <Alratan> we can kill him and claim that it was in accordance with the deal he instigated ans signed up for
  922. [2011-12-27 14:25:10] <TIMreturned> Well if we kill him, we need a way to do so
  923. [2011-12-27 14:25:27] <TIMreturned> We need a room that is bad for him
  924. [2011-12-27 14:25:37] <The_Greedy_Bastard> No
  925. [2011-12-27 14:25:40] <The_Greedy_Bastard> A room that suits him
  926. [2011-12-27 14:25:47] <The_Greedy_Bastard> To...slightly make him feel at ease
  927. [2011-12-27 14:26:11] <TIMreturned> A room that "seems" to suit him?
  928. [2011-12-27 14:26:20] <TIMreturned> Might be better
  929. [2011-12-27 14:27:00] <TIMreturned> Something that attracts his lightening would be good
  930. [2011-12-27 14:27:28] <TIMreturned> All we need is one opening for SB to stabbity with the mere
  931. [2011-12-27 14:27:37] <Arkeus> It would be kind of funny to have him kill our body, and have Amen bind him just as he does so
  932. [2011-12-27 14:27:52] <The_Greedy_Bastard> No....I prefer having Amen kill him
  933. [2011-12-27 14:27:56] <Alratan> and have Amen use space/borders manipulation to earth any lightning throw in the house
  934. [2011-12-27 14:27:59] <The_Greedy_Bastard> THEN, after he's dead, we sort things out
  935. [2011-12-27 14:28:01] <Arkeus> So that we both paid him and got Armas V's soul, but also got him bound for noms
  936. [2011-12-27 14:28:12] <Alratan> Get him to make the hand first
  937. [2011-12-27 14:28:30] <Alratan> the order to ground any lightning bolts harmlessly can be given now, actually
  938. [2011-12-27 14:28:43] <TIMreturned> Careful, if a life is used before the Devils death
  939. [2011-12-27 14:28:52] <TIMreturned> Then he is loose of the agreement
  940. [2011-12-27 14:29:42] <Alratan> Agreed
  941. [2011-12-27 14:29:46] <Alratan> reverse the order
  942. [2011-12-27 14:29:57] <Arkeus> TIMreturned: that's the point
  943. [2011-12-27 14:30:07] <Alratan> insist we fix the hand first, as he lost the hand first
  944. [2011-12-27 14:30:08] <Arkeus> We pay him, he is loose of the agreement, and then Amen gets him
  945. [2011-12-27 14:30:32] <TIMreturned> "Amen, for the duration of the next two hours you are to redirect any lightening aimed at me, towards the one who produced said bolts" how is that?
  946. [2011-12-27 14:30:40] <Arkeus> Basically, we use him being loose of the agreement
  947. [2011-12-27 14:30:58] <Arkeus> TIMreturned: better to contain it
  948. [2011-12-27 14:31:04] <Arkeus> we might be able to eat it or something
  949. [2011-12-27 14:31:31] <Alratan> storing it somewhere may be good, but much safer just to earth it
  950. [2011-12-27 14:32:13] <Arkeus> I REALLY want Armas to arrive in high magic world in medieval stuff
  951. [2011-12-27 14:32:18] <Arkeus> great learning boost
  952. [2011-12-27 14:32:40] <Alratan> TO my mind, if Armas has a basic grounding when he goes low>high>same
  953. [2011-12-27 14:32:59] <Alratan> as the soul manipulators in a high magic world have no reason at all to share any of their secrets with him
  954. [2011-12-27 14:33:08] <Wutenheimer> i'm bored
  955. [2011-12-27 14:33:12] <Wutenheimer> what does that mean?
  956. [2011-12-27 14:33:16] <Wutenheimer> CHEESECAKE TIEM!
  957. [2011-12-27 14:33:32] <TIMreturned> right, I'm actually going be playing a game with family, so post a post in disc, work it out among yourselves and I'll upvote if bob hasn't updated by the time I'm finished
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  960. [2011-12-27 14:46:59] <Alratan> you know, feeding the devil to Silja probably counts as reuniting him with his hand
  961. [2011-12-27 14:48:08] <TIMreturned> Check if Silja minds
  962. [2011-12-27 14:48:19] <Alratan> of course
  963. [2011-12-27 14:48:36] <TIMreturned> Also a lot of feedback
  964. [2011-12-27 14:48:41] <Alratan> but if we say she's helping to kill a devil who want to take her beloved Armas' soul as his toy
  965. [2011-12-27 14:48:46] <TIMreturned> Remember the hand
  966. [2011-12-27 14:48:55] <Alratan> she's awake now
  967. [2011-12-27 14:48:59] <Alratan> and we have hybrid healing
  968. [2011-12-27 14:52:30] <Arkeus> Also, i loved Armas playing with words with VikingBird
  969. [2011-12-27 14:54:06] <Wutenheimer> you know, the 3 times the magical energy probably still applys
  970. [2011-12-27 14:54:15] <Alratan> yes
  971. [2011-12-27 14:54:28] <Arkeus> For Silja? yes
  972. [2011-12-27 14:54:28] <Wutenheimer> and that devil is probably several hundred siljas
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  974. [2011-12-27 14:54:39] <Arkeus> Agreed
  975. [2011-12-27 14:54:41] <Alratan> she ate his hand without trouble
  976. [2011-12-27 14:54:56] <Arkeus> There is a big difference though
  977. [2011-12-27 14:54:56] <Alratan> and had no trouble at all with the Doonegeas
  978. [2011-12-27 14:55:03] <Arkeus> Especially if the hand was like 70 years old
  979. [2011-12-27 14:55:05] <Alratan> we could cut him into pieces
  980. [2011-12-27 14:55:16] <Alratan> and serve him to her in salmi slices
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  982. [2011-12-27 14:58:44] <Alratan> We should really have asked Einrik when we had the chance
  983. [2011-12-27 14:58:59] <Alratan> I suspect that Silja's method of consumption is very different to ours
  984. [2011-12-27 14:59:22] <Alratan> as she can incorporate living flesh into herself, as she did with Smets, in a way that keeps it alive during the process
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  986. [2011-12-27 15:14:55] <A_Mad_Oyster> ?discthread
  987. [2011-12-27 15:14:56] <Classhole> http://tgchan.org/kusaba/questdis/res/347115+50.html
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  990. [2011-12-27 15:43:55] <Arkeus> urgh, tried to sleep
  991. [2011-12-27 15:44:01] <Arkeus> Result, in bed less than half an hour
  992. [2011-12-27 15:44:02] <Arkeus> :-(
  993. [2011-12-27 15:44:12] <Alratan> bad luck
  994. [2011-12-27 15:44:59] <Arkeus> and there STILL hasn't been any posts :-(
  995. [2011-12-27 15:45:21] <Alratan> no
  996. [2011-12-27 15:45:26] <Alratan> no consensus
  997. [2011-12-27 15:45:34] <Alratan> no real ideas what to do
  998. [2011-12-27 15:46:10] <Alratan> this should have been dealt with and planned immediately after we knew the devil was coming
  999. [2011-12-27 15:49:39] <A_Mad_Oyster> Let's hope Bob's writing the update
  1000. [2011-12-27 15:50:04] <Arkeus> bob has said over 15hrs ago he wanted to do an update but there was too few posts
  1001. [2011-12-27 15:50:12] <Arkeus> Hence hwy i want people to post
  1002. [2011-12-27 15:50:38] <Alratan> I don't really have anything to add at this point
  1003. [2011-12-27 15:50:53] <A_Mad_Oyster> Oh...
  1004. [2011-12-27 15:50:55] <Alratan> I already made my suggestion a couple of ypdates back
  1005. [2011-12-27 15:51:01] <A_Mad_Oyster> K, I'll go upvote some plans
  1006. [2011-12-27 15:52:29] <A_Mad_Oyster> Maybe you could repost your plans, Al?
  1007. [2011-12-27 15:52:57] <Alratan> It's already been rejected
  1008. [2011-12-27 15:54:31] <Alratan> and my second idea, to use BB's charm
  1009. [2011-12-27 15:54:44] <Alratan> also seems to have been precluded
  1010. [2011-12-27 15:54:59] <Arkeus> Well, Sake could do the equivalent of BB's charm, me think
  1011. [2011-12-27 15:55:01] <Arkeus> possibly
  1012. [2011-12-27 15:56:31] <Alratan> Sake can't control the energy flow for healing
  1013. [2011-12-27 15:56:44] <Alratan> so trying is a big risk
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  1015. [2011-12-27 16:10:00] <Alratan> well
  1016. [2011-12-27 16:10:05] <Alratan> I'm back at work tomrrow
  1017. [2011-12-27 16:10:08] <Alratan> so good night all
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  1021. [2011-12-27 16:20:14] <Arkeus> netsplitty
  1022. [2011-12-27 16:20:16] <Arkeus> poor bob
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  1025. [2011-12-27 16:52:06] <TheBeardiestBob> I sure do love timing out all the time.
  1026. [2011-12-27 16:55:27] <Arkeus> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WcNCXtGG-Uk&feature=related nice kinect video
  1027. [2011-12-27 16:55:28] <Classhole> Arkeus: Skyrim Kinect: Fus Ro Dah - length 2m 40s - rated 4.86/5.0 (481) - 38221 views - KinectFAAST on 2011.12.13
  1028. [2011-12-27 16:55:35] <Arkeus> TheBeardiestBob: you got netsplit
  1029. [2011-12-27 16:55:38] <Arkeus> not quite time out
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  1031. [2011-12-27 17:02:37] =-= someone is now known as Guest57734
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  1033. [2011-12-27 17:05:20] <Fargist_The_Fifth> What did I miss?
  1034. [2011-12-27 17:05:58] <Arkeus> Upcoming MrTT rage?
  1035. [2011-12-27 17:06:05] <Arkeus> Apart from that, nothing
  1036. [2011-12-27 17:06:17] <Fargist_The_Fifth> ....why should he rage?
  1037. [2011-12-27 17:20:23] <ManOfSleepOhMyGodHowLongHasItB> Can I guess Al?
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  1039. [2011-12-27 17:49:03] <TheBeardiestBob> Update
  1040. [2011-12-27 17:49:20] <Arkeus> heh
  1041. [2011-12-27 17:49:24] <Arkeus> *scared to read*
  1042. [2011-12-27 17:49:38] <Arkeus> Dammit folks, why did no one smart post :-(
  1043. [2011-12-27 17:53:27] <Arkeus> Well, we aren't dead
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  1045. [2011-12-27 17:57:57] <Arkeus> TheBeardiestBob: We were talking last night about trying to begin to learn more about our Summer bloodline. A time estimate on that?
  1046. [2011-12-27 18:01:14] <TheBeardiestBob> A time estimate on what? SB having another info packet?
  1047. [2011-12-27 18:02:06] <Arkeus> More like testing around all of what we could do with our summer bloodline- we haven't really tried anything that we got from first info packet
  1048. [2011-12-27 18:06:56] <Waryobserver> You mean practice with what we all ready know and Trying to understand the mechanics behind them, Ark?
  1049. [2011-12-27 18:07:12] <Arkeus> That, and trying to understand the real effects
  1050. [2011-12-27 18:07:19] <Arkeus> As in, test them out
  1051. [2011-12-27 18:07:27] <Waryobserver> I'm all for that
  1052. [2011-12-27 18:08:08] <Fargist_The_Fifth> OH AN UPDATE
  1053. [2011-12-27 18:08:10] <Arkeus> We know working on our chakra make them easier to use and so on, so we could try that with summer bloodline. OTOH, we should try to get ahold of Whaitiri for real lessons maybe
  1054. [2011-12-27 18:08:38] <Arkeus> Also, i like the idea of pain training for Chakra use.
  1055. [2011-12-27 18:08:43] <Waryobserver> Whiatiri shoulb be cobntacted after we get a small foundation to work upon, methinks.
  1056. [2011-12-27 18:09:17] <Arkeus> I just don't really no what beyond tazer and boiling water...
  1057. [2011-12-27 18:09:36] <Arkeus> Asphixiation works, too, i guess
  1058. [2011-12-27 18:10:12] <Arkeus> We should also think about asking SB for sense depravation
  1059. [2011-12-27 18:10:15] <ManOfSleepOhMyGodHowLongHasItB> Is vikbird a warhammer or a warax kinda guy, Bob?
  1060. [2011-12-27 18:11:34] <Waryobserver> Troy, he doesn't even have hands. How could he prefer an axe over a hammer or vice versa?
  1061. [2011-12-27 18:11:35] <TheBeardiestBob> A spear user
  1062. [2011-12-27 18:11:37] <TheBeardiestBob> OBVIOUSLY
  1063. [2011-12-27 18:11:42] <TheBeardiestBob> THRUST THROUGH EVERYTHING
  1064. [2011-12-27 18:11:53] <Waryobserver> ... Pierce the heavens?
  1065. [2011-12-27 18:11:54] <TheBeardiestBob> With his talons being axe-analogues
  1066. [2011-12-27 18:12:00] <TheBeardiestBob> so, spear beak, axefeet
  1067. [2011-12-27 18:12:27] <Arkeus> Oh god
  1068. [2011-12-27 18:12:38] <Arkeus> Hummingbird is going to give us thrusting bonus, isn't he?
  1069. [2011-12-27 18:12:55] <Arkeus> We should totally tell Camella that once she knows of spirit animal
  1070. [2011-12-27 18:12:59] <Arkeus> And, well, has forgiven us
  1071. [2011-12-27 18:13:01] <Arkeus> <_<
  1072. [2011-12-27 18:13:03] <ManOfSleepOhMyGodHowLongHasItB> WE SHALL CRAFT FOR HIM A MIGHTY VIKING SPEAR AND AX! HIS NAME WILL ECHO IN BLOOD AND THUNDER!
  1073. [2011-12-27 18:13:19] <TheBeardiestBob> GUYS
  1074. [2011-12-27 18:13:21] <ManOfSleepOhMyGodHowLongHasItB> >Camella
  1075. [2011-12-27 18:13:22] <TheBeardiestBob> THEY BEST IDEA
  1076. [2011-12-27 18:13:23] <TheBeardiestBob> WHAT IF
  1077. [2011-12-27 18:13:24] <TheBeardiestBob> HOLD ON
  1078. [2011-12-27 18:13:27] <TheBeardiestBob> FOLLOW WITH ME HERE
  1079. [2011-12-27 18:13:31] <Fargist_The_Fifth> KK TELL US
  1080. [2011-12-27 18:13:31] <TheBeardiestBob> WE TAKE AN AXE
  1081. [2011-12-27 18:13:32] <ManOfSleepOhMyGodHowLongHasItB> YEAH, GO ON.
  1082. [2011-12-27 18:13:35] <TheBeardiestBob> AND TAKE OFF IT'S HEAD
  1083. [2011-12-27 18:13:36] <ManOfSleepOhMyGodHowLongHasItB> A SPEAR AX?
  1084. [2011-12-27 18:13:37] <TheBeardiestBob> AND THEN
  1085. [2011-12-27 18:13:40] <TheBeardiestBob> YOU READY FOR THIS?
  1086. [2011-12-27 18:13:40] <Arkeus> YOSH, TELL US
  1087. [2011-12-27 18:13:43] <TheBeardiestBob> WE TAKE A SPEAR
  1088. [2011-12-27 18:13:43] <Fargist_The_Fifth> YES YES
  1089. [2011-12-27 18:13:45] <Fargist_The_Fifth> MY BODY IS READY
  1090. [2011-12-27 18:13:46] <ManOfSleepOhMyGodHowLongHasItB> OH GOD, YES.
  1091. [2011-12-27 18:13:48] <TheBeardiestBob> AND WE CUT THAT SHIT DOWN
  1092. [2011-12-27 18:13:52] <TheBeardiestBob> AND STICK THE AXE HEAD ON
  1093. [2011-12-27 18:13:54] <Captain-Lightning> 1,1penis
  1094. [2011-12-27 18:13:56] <TheBeardiestBob> AND YOU'D THINK WE'RE DONE
  1095. [2011-12-27 18:13:56] <Fargist_The_Fifth> OH MY GOD
  1096. [2011-12-27 18:13:57] <TheBeardiestBob> BUT NO
  1097. [2011-12-27 18:14:02] <Fargist_The_Fifth> HOLY SHIT THERES MROE
  1098. [2011-12-27 18:14:04] <ManOfSleepOhMyGodHowLongHasItB> OH GOD, THERE'S MORE?
  1099. [2011-12-27 18:14:06] <TheBeardiestBob> EXTRA SPEAR HEAD ON TOP OF AXE HEAD
  1100. [2011-12-27 18:14:13] <TheBeardiestBob> DOUBLE SPEARAXE
  1101. [2011-12-27 18:14:13] <Fargist_The_Fifth> HOLY FUUUUUUUUUCK!!
  1102. [2011-12-27 18:14:14] <ManOfSleepOhMyGodHowLongHasItB> OH GOD!
  1103. [2011-12-27 18:14:18] <ManOfSleepOhMyGodHowLongHasItB> OOOOH GOD YES!
  1104. [2011-12-27 18:14:28] <Arkeus> [wtf]
  1105. [2011-12-27 18:14:31] <Fargist_The_Fifth> THIS IS MORE THAN MY BODY CAN HANDLE
  1106. [2011-12-27 18:14:38] <ManOfSleepOhMyGodHowLongHasItB> WE MUST CRAFT THIS!
  1107. [2011-12-27 18:14:41] <Shot__> YES
  1108. [2011-12-27 18:14:46] <ManOfSleepOhMyGodHowLongHasItB> QUICKLY! TO THE DWARVES!
  1109. [2011-12-27 18:14:53] <TheBeardiestBob> Pretty sure that would be so fucking cumbersome to use
  1110. [2011-12-27 18:15:08] <ManOfSleepOhMyGodHowLongHasItB> Hey, he doesn't need to land. And it would be tiny.
  1111. [2011-12-27 18:15:11] <ManOfSleepOhMyGodHowLongHasItB> So fuck yes
  1112. [2011-12-27 18:15:33] <TheBeardiestBob> wait, you mean a tiny one for the bird to clutch in his talons?
  1113. [2011-12-27 18:15:38] <ManOfSleepOhMyGodHowLongHasItB> Yes.
  1114. [2011-12-27 18:15:52] <TheBeardiestBob> But then he can't claw somone's eyes out bare clawed....
  1115. [2011-12-27 18:15:52] <Fargist_The_Fifth> VIKING BIRD
  1116. [2011-12-27 18:15:54] <Arkeus> So, anyone has a good plan for how to procceed about making Camella aware Armas didn't just do that hsooting self thing for trolling?
  1117. [2011-12-27 18:15:56] <TheBeardiestBob> He has to use a weapon...
  1118. [2011-12-27 18:16:09] <Arkeus> TheBeardiestBob: that's kinda sad
  1119. [2011-12-27 18:16:21] <ManOfSleepOhMyGodHowLongHasItB> Mhm. True.
  1120. [2011-12-27 18:16:42] <ManOfSleepOhMyGodHowLongHasItB> Well, we craft him ones that fit on each talon.
  1121. [2011-12-27 18:16:44] <TheBeardiestBob> Clearly, the answer is learn how to mold your own spiritual energy into such a weapon, and provide it for him when he requests it on an as-needed basis.
  1122. [2011-12-27 18:16:56] <Arkeus> Clearly
  1123. [2011-12-27 18:17:02] <TheBeardiestBob> Make your spirit animal but still living hummingbird a spirit weapon hewn from your own soul.
  1124. [2011-12-27 18:17:12] <Arkeus> hehehe
  1125. [2011-12-27 18:17:15] <Arkeus> He will love us
  1126. [2011-12-27 18:17:44] <ManOfSleepOhMyGodHowLongHasItB> YES!
  1127. [2011-12-27 18:17:52] <Arkeus> Ok, bouncing ideas her folks, need 'serious' feedback
  1128. [2011-12-27 18:18:06] <Arkeus> Plan for make-up with Camella:
  1129. [2011-12-27 18:18:18] <Waryobserver> Panty raid?
  1130. [2011-12-27 18:18:50] <Fargist_The_Fifth> PANTY RAID
  1131. [2011-12-27 18:19:02] <Fargist_The_Fifth> >(So far all I've thought up is using a taser and using boiling water.)
  1132. [2011-12-27 18:19:03] <Fargist_The_Fifth> Oh Armas
  1133. [2011-12-27 18:19:06] <TheBeardiestBob> In fairness Arkeus
  1134. [2011-12-27 18:19:13] <TheBeardiestBob> you couldn't really have expected a serious response.
  1135. [2011-12-27 18:20:16] <Waryobserver> But srasly now, Your plan?
  1136. [2011-12-27 18:20:48] <Arkeus> 1°) Go to Ito's, ask him for a lesson. Tell him about Precision Teacher, everything we learned, and how he seemed strangely happy about the lesson. Tell him about how it appears our bloodline might be helping us learn Chakra faster- it finalized after leaving Precision Trainer, and we got that 'understanding' then. Tell him that as well as for security reason, we didn't tell him about our
  1137. [2011-12-27 18:20:48] <Arkeus> winter bloodline then because it wasn't completed, and did that just minutes before our last lesson from him. Hint about how we did it, and that it was a profoundly personal experience.
  1138. [2011-12-27 18:20:57] <Arkeus> Hope Ito tells Camella <_<
  1139. [2011-12-27 18:21:44] <Arkeus> TheBeardiestBob: i know that even a serious response is a trolly response from 'certain' people.
  1140. [2011-12-27 18:21:54] <Waryobserver> Could work
  1141. [2011-12-27 18:22:03] <Arkeus> We need to Tell that to Ito anyway
  1142. [2011-12-27 18:22:04] <Waryobserver> But ito doesn't really seem a gossip
  1143. [2011-12-27 18:22:11] <Arkeus> I mean, he wants us to tell him about other teachers
  1144. [2011-12-27 18:22:25] <Arkeus> And telling him of our bloodline and its influence on Chakra is also important for him
  1145. [2011-12-27 18:22:28] <ManOfSleepOhMyGodHowLongHasItB> Question: Have we introduced Vikbird to Manowar yet?
  1146. [2011-12-27 18:22:31] <ManOfSleepOhMyGodHowLongHasItB> Because we shoudl.
  1147. [2011-12-27 18:22:36] <Arkeus> Manowar?
  1148. [2011-12-27 18:22:43] <Arkeus> Waryobserver: true enough
  1149. [2011-12-27 18:23:12] <Arkeus> Maybe we should add something like "Camella took rather badly to it, though. I... should have been clearer"
  1150. [2011-12-27 18:23:23] <Arkeus> But, yeah, we need Ito to gossip, and he doesn't seem one.
  1151. [2011-12-27 18:23:42] <Waryobserver> And we can't just ask for his help.
  1152. [2011-12-27 18:23:52] <Arkeus> Can't we?
  1153. [2011-12-27 18:24:06] <Waryobserver> Cammy might take that badly if she finds out
  1154. [2011-12-27 18:24:08] <Arkeus> We could have something to trade in exchange. After all, this is harmless help/
  1155. [2011-12-27 18:24:27] <Arkeus> I don't think she would, as long as neither us nor Ito lie nor deceive her
  1156. [2011-12-27 18:25:08] <Waryobserver> Welp, it's much better that letting it stew
  1157. [2011-12-27 18:25:27] <Arkeus> Ok, i am going to try and go for that
  1158. [2011-12-27 18:25:49] <Arkeus> Also, i think we stand to get a level 3 C trait if we are diligent enough
  1159. [2011-12-27 18:25:56] <ManOfSleepOhMyGodHowLongHasItB> Manowar?
  1160. [2011-12-27 18:25:59] <ManOfSleepOhMyGodHowLongHasItB> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7YD8pfnqeP4&feature=related
  1161. [2011-12-27 18:26:00] <Classhole> ManOfSleepOhMyGodHowLongHasItB: Manowar - Hail and Kill - length 5m 59s - rated 4.94/5.0 (4350) - 1100750 views - fernando28253765 on 2009.01.02
  1162. [2011-12-27 18:26:02] <ManOfSleepOhMyGodHowLongHasItB> MANOWAR
  1163. [2011-12-27 18:26:14] <Arkeus> From then on, we should try ot level up Ambush/Chakra/GGG together
  1164. [2011-12-27 18:26:41] <Fargist_The_Fifth> Watch out when "training" GGG...
  1165. [2011-12-27 18:26:43] <Arkeus> Apparently Traits that have the same levels stack easier
  1166. [2011-12-27 18:26:51] <Fargist_The_Fifth> I don't want Armas to become a MAsochist...
  1167. [2011-12-27 18:26:51] <Arkeus> Fargist_The_Fifth: GGG is the pain one
  1168. [2011-12-27 18:26:54] <Arkeus> not the greed one
  1169. [2011-12-27 18:27:00] <Fargist_The_Fifth> I know
  1170. [2011-12-27 18:27:02] <Fargist_The_Fifth> That's why
  1171. [2011-12-27 18:27:05] <Waryobserver> Whats wrong with being a masochist?
  1172. [2011-12-27 18:27:09] <Arkeus> EXACTLY
  1173. [2011-12-27 18:27:12] <Fargist_The_Fifth> Nothing's wrong
  1174. [2011-12-27 18:27:15] <Fargist_The_Fifth> But for Armas, it is
  1175. [2011-12-27 18:27:20] <Waryobserver> ... Why?
  1176. [2011-12-27 18:27:23] <ManOfSleepOhMyGodHowLongHasItB> Isn't Armas Always Wrong?
  1177. [2011-12-27 18:27:25] <Waryobserver> Regen brah
  1178. [2011-12-27 18:27:41] <Fargist_The_Fifth> "SHOOT ME YOU FUCKER, SHOOT ME OR I'LL SHOOT YOU"
  1179. [2011-12-27 18:27:51] <Fargist_The_Fifth> "OH GOD YES KEEP UP THAT BULLET SPRAY"
  1180. [2011-12-27 18:27:55] <Arkeus> <_<
  1181. [2011-12-27 18:28:16] <Arkeus> You are having a rather silly idea of it.
  1182. [2011-12-27 18:28:22] <Fargist_The_Fifth> ಠ_ಠ
  1183. [2011-12-27 18:28:43] <Arkeus> It will probably be something like liking to be put against unsrumountable odds just for seeing people's face as you win
  1184. [2011-12-27 18:28:55] <ManOfSleepOhMyGodHowLongHasItB> Wait, armas getting off to being shot in the face?
  1185. [2011-12-27 18:29:07] <ManOfSleepOhMyGodHowLongHasItB> WE NEED TO USE CAMELLA TO GET THIS TRAIT!
  1186. [2011-12-27 18:29:11] <Arkeus> lol
  1187. [2011-12-27 18:29:19] <ManOfSleepOhMyGodHowLongHasItB> She will be -so- weirded out by us.
  1188. [2011-12-27 18:29:23] <TIMreturned> Given that Bob is writing the Quest, Armas becoming like that is more likely if we aren't careful
  1189. [2011-12-27 18:29:24] <Fargist_The_Fifth> ...Oh god
  1190. [2011-12-27 18:29:30] <Fargist_The_Fifth> Let's use that as our apology
  1191. [2011-12-27 18:29:49] <Fargist_The_Fifth> "To make up for that dickish move I pulled on you earlier, I'll allow you to shoot my face to your heart's content"
  1192. [2011-12-27 18:30:04] <Arkeus> That's a dickish move in itself
  1193. [2011-12-27 18:32:30] <Arkeus> Anyone knows of a good recent series?
  1194. [2011-12-27 18:33:13] <TIMreturned> ...
  1195. [2011-12-27 18:33:18] <TIMreturned> Read update
  1196. [2011-12-27 18:33:23] <TIMreturned> That devil
  1197. [2011-12-27 18:33:32] <TheBeardiestBob> http://i.imgur.com/uY0Xa.jpg
  1198. [2011-12-27 18:33:42] <Arkeus> I have a bad feeling about us still being linked to Mammon's artifact
  1199. [2011-12-27 18:33:53] <Arkeus> Either that, or saying those words would link us right back
  1200. [2011-12-27 18:33:55] <TIMreturned> getting mammon envolved with us again and freeing himself to cause havoc, the Ass
  1201. [2011-12-27 18:34:26] <Arkeus> TheBeardiestBob: IT'S EVIL! DON'T HUG IT!
  1202. [2011-12-27 18:34:46] <TIMreturned> I say we still spurn Mammon, but we need to do so in a way that doesn't make us foe
  1203. [2011-12-27 18:34:55] <TIMreturned> Or prey
  1204. [2011-12-27 18:35:24] <TIMreturned> Also goodnight
  1205. [2011-12-27 18:35:24] <Arkeus> We also need to make sure we aren't linked to Mammon's device still, or that saying that passcode won't link us again
  1206. [2011-12-27 18:35:25] <Arkeus> that would suck
  1207. [2011-12-27 18:35:26] <Arkeus> gdnight TIM
  1208. [2011-12-27 18:36:57] <ManOfSleepOhMyGodHowLongHasItB> Hey, Bob: What is the time right now?
  1209. [2011-12-27 18:37:06] <Arkeus> noon
  1210. [2011-12-27 18:37:19] <Arkeus> So it is that, at twelve past noon-the doorbell rings.
  1211. [2011-12-27 18:39:28] <Shot__> Red sands miniupdate~
  1212. [2011-12-27 18:39:31] <ManOfSleepOhMyGodHowLongHasItB> Ah, ok. Last update. WOndered if enough time had passed. So, the Finnish Demon won't visit us...didn't we need it to visit us so we could get back Armas V.'s soul back?
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  1214. [2011-12-27 18:39:50] <Arkeus> That's part of why it fucked us over, yes
  1215. [2011-12-27 18:40:01] <Arkeus> Still, it is somewhat good.
  1216. [2011-12-27 18:41:22] <ManOfSleepOhMyGodHowLongHasItB> Not really, because it means Mammon now has Other Armas' soul.
  1217. [2011-12-27 18:41:37] <Shot__> ... How'd you infer that?
  1218. [2011-12-27 18:42:14] <Arkeus> Shot__: this Devil believes he has our soul because Armas V's soul couldn't be gotten
  1219. [2011-12-27 18:42:35] <Arkeus> so it's his 'right' to Armas v's soul that somehow gives him a 'right' to ours
  1220. [2011-12-27 18:42:58] <ManOfSleepOhMyGodHowLongHasItB> Just thinking out loud, Shot.
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  1222. [2011-12-27 18:48:33] <Waryobserver> Anyone else notice that the devil only said "someone" bought the connection, not specifically Mammon?
  1223. [2011-12-27 18:48:41] <Arkeus> ... Fuck
  1224. [2011-12-27 18:48:55] <Waryobserver> I'll take that as a yes
  1225. [2011-12-27 18:49:16] <Arkeus> We also have to find another way to reach the gathering, too
  1226. [2011-12-27 18:49:22] <Shot__> >inb4 it's Savoy
  1227. [2011-12-27 18:49:31] <Arkeus> Amen
  1228. [2011-12-27 18:50:04] <Ironybot> I'm thinking that we need background information on this Devil/Demon gathering, and quickly. We have two potential sources for this, Amen and Johann.
  1229. [2011-12-27 18:50:06] <Waryobserver> Do we really want to go the a den full of demons?
  1230. [2011-12-27 18:50:15] <Waryobserver> Seems like a deathtrap
  1231. [2011-12-27 18:50:23] <Arkeus> Ironybot: saw my little plan for Camella?
  1232. [2011-12-27 18:50:27] <Arkeus> what do you think?
  1233. [2011-12-27 18:50:33] <Arkeus> Also, damn you for not posting early :-(
  1234. [2011-12-27 18:50:56] <Ironybot> I thought it was a complete gamble, and Einrik would be a better bet even if he might troll us.
  1235. [2011-12-27 18:51:21] <Waryobserver> How do we use Einrick to fix it?
  1236. [2011-12-27 18:51:45] <Arkeus> Ironybot: Well.. True enough. I mostly think we should go to Ito's anyway
  1237. [2011-12-27 18:51:54] <Arkeus> Maybe have Einrik do his part while we talk to Ito
  1238. [2011-12-27 18:51:54] <Ironybot> Einrik has a much more complete understanding of what exactly was going on and Camella thinks highly of him. Thus he would be the ideal party to intercede on our behalf in this matter.
  1239. [2011-12-27 18:52:03] <Arkeus> True
  1240. [2011-12-27 18:52:48] <Arkeus> Going to take a shower, and depending on the plans i may want to grab 5555 or Palindrome.
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  1242. [2011-12-27 18:55:54] <Arkeus> b83c65 is ManOfSleepOhMyGodHowLongHasItB?
  1243. [2011-12-27 19:00:57] <ManOfSleepOhMyGodHowLongHasItB> Yes.
  1244. [2011-12-27 19:00:59] <ManOfSleepOhMyGodHowLongHasItB> WHy?
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  1246. [2011-12-27 19:05:56] <guile> so, whats new, golemites?
  1247. [2011-12-27 19:06:01] <Waryobserver> Update
  1248. [2011-12-27 19:06:11] <guile> hot diggity daffodil
  1249. [2011-12-27 19:06:33] <Ironybot> Apparently our relationship with the devil has been purchased by someone else, and Mammon invited us to a demon/devil party.
  1250. [2011-12-27 19:06:41] <guile> what did we decide? talking or murder?
  1251. [2011-12-27 19:06:47] <guile> ... so, first one, then the other?
  1252. [2011-12-27 19:06:57] <Waryobserver> Finnish dev doesn't want anything to do with us
  1253. [2011-12-27 19:07:06] <guile> now that hurts
  1254. [2011-12-27 19:07:07] <Waryobserver> Sold his connection
  1255. [2011-12-27 19:07:17] <Waryobserver> To Some one'
  1256. [2011-12-27 19:07:31] <Waryobserver> Or was killed for it
  1257. [2011-12-27 19:07:37] <Waryobserver> I'm hoping killed
  1258. [2011-12-27 19:07:40] <guile> interesting that this implies the devils are independent but still open to negotiation with the demon princes
  1259. [2011-12-27 19:07:56] <guile> oh, or he could be dead. that works too.
  1260. [2011-12-27 19:08:03] <guile> I guess Ill just read the update
  1261. [2011-12-27 19:08:30] <Waryobserver> Thats riddickulous
  1262. [2011-12-27 19:08:43] <Waryobserver> You actually READ the updates
  1263. [2011-12-27 19:09:11] <Ironybot> Yeah, that is pretty bizarre. I write all my orders completely blindly.
  1264. [2011-12-27 19:09:44] <guile> that would be pretty entertaining, actually
  1265. [2011-12-27 19:10:21] <guile> see how badly we could hurt Armas if we all took to just start throwing orders at the wall and seeing what sticks. you know, more than we do already
  1266. [2011-12-27 19:10:38] <Ironybot> Okay, TheBeardiestBob, I have a vitally important question. What is the name of our demonic gunsmith contact?
  1267. [2011-12-27 19:10:55] <Waryobserver> I though that was Johann
  1268. [2011-12-27 19:11:00] <Ironybot> Like certain other NPCs, his exact name has been gradually sliding around in spelling since we first met him.
  1269. [2011-12-27 19:11:39] <guile> I like to think that sometimes we meet Johan's nicer twin brother Johann
  1270. [2011-12-27 19:12:27] <Ironybot> And then there are the Strauss brothers' cousins, the Straus brothers?
  1271. [2011-12-27 19:13:11] <guile> they're just visiting over the winter hols
  1272. [2011-12-27 19:13:43] <Ironybot> Actually, upon reflection that would be a fairly hilarious bit of conceptual magic to pull. Create simulacra of yourself and give each of them a Name which strongly resembles yours and keep your minds synched, then claim to be one person.
  1273. [2011-12-27 19:14:07] <Waryobserver> Unrelated query: How would a prophecy frag affect Armas?
  1274. [2011-12-27 19:14:14] <Waryobserver> Personality wise
  1275. [2011-12-27 19:14:45] <Ironybot> Probably he'd become even more inclined to staring off into space for extended periods and taking sudden, drastic and erratic actions than he already is.
  1276. [2011-12-27 19:14:52] <Ironybot> That's just a guess on my part, though.
  1277. [2011-12-27 19:15:07] <guile> that would be fantastic if we ever get our fleshcrafting skill high enough
  1278. [2011-12-27 19:15:11] <guile> or trust amen enough
  1279. [2011-12-27 19:15:18] <Waryobserver> Maybe he'd start seeing omens, good and bad, in everything
  1280. [2011-12-27 19:16:00] <guile> "This pattern of birds in flight means that Blackbeard is hiding around that next corner!"
  1281. [2011-12-27 19:16:29] <Ironybot> I envisioned chaotic prophecy as less reading omens and more getting random flashes of prescience.
  1282. [2011-12-27 19:16:34] <Waryobserver> "And there he is. Thanks Birds!"
  1283. [2011-12-27 19:17:04] <guile> No, but seriously, when I asked bob about it during the auction, he implied it was controllable to some extent. a few seconds into the future is most controllable and clear, while we can choose to try and see further which is unavoidably vague
  1284. [2011-12-27 19:17:51] <guile> man, do we really want to give bob the ability to have the narrative grab us by the throat like that?
  1285. [2011-12-27 19:18:21] <Waryobserver> Might be cool for the first five posts or so.
  1286. [2011-12-27 19:19:14] <Ironybot> Eh, I don't really see the problem- the narrative pretty much already grabs us by the throat whenever it wants.
  1287. [2011-12-27 19:19:18] <ManOfSleepOhMyGodHowLongHasItB> I believe if we had taken the prophecy fragment, we would have become part of the 'Ricks.
  1288. [2011-12-27 19:19:30] <Waryobserver> Armarick
  1289. [2011-12-27 19:19:36] <TheBeardiestBob> Ironybot: Should be Johan Strauss, but sometimes I fuck it up and give him a second n.
  1290. [2011-12-27 19:19:37] <Waryobserver> I'd be okay with that
  1291. [2011-12-27 19:20:16] <Arkeus> TheBeardiestBob: does he have any relation to the Johan of Monster fame?
  1292. [2011-12-27 19:21:10] <Arkeus> TheBeardiestBob: Also, any chance of a second update tonight?
  1293. [2011-12-27 19:22:21] <guile> a fate I'd like to avoid at all costs, Troy
  1294. [2011-12-27 19:22:43] <Arkeus> guile: any reason?
  1295. [2011-12-27 19:22:57] <Waryobserver> What do have aganst the 'Ricks, Guile?
  1296. [2011-12-27 19:23:16] <guile> obviously, he is related to Santana
  1297. [2011-12-27 19:23:17] <Shot__> tbh the 'rick thing sorta derailed the quest
  1298. [2011-12-27 19:23:32] <Arkeus> lol no
  1299. [2011-12-27 19:23:44] <Arkeus> The quest was derailed quite a bit before that
  1300. [2011-12-27 19:24:02] <Waryobserver> Wasn't it when we didn't become a rampaging monster?
  1301. [2011-12-27 19:24:06] <guile> I thought Ulzrick and his brother - and even the extended 'rick Collective - were fine. But after the Gelricks, well... lets just say I'd rather there not be a GFH chapter, Oni clan or no
  1302. [2011-12-27 19:24:10] <Waryobserver> Like, right at the beginning?
  1303. [2011-12-27 19:24:28] <Arkeus> guile: "gfh chapter"?
  1304. [2011-12-27 19:24:39] <ManOfSleepOhMyGodHowLongHasItB> Aw. Does that mean you wouldn't want to Golem Quest to continue?
  1305. [2011-12-27 19:24:46] <Waryobserver> Like a motorccle gang i think he means
  1306. [2011-12-27 19:25:14] <Arkeus> Man: GfH >>>>>>>>> GQ
  1307. [2011-12-27 19:25:16] <guile> more or less? I guess? a chapter house is a smaller offshoot of a larger affiliation, usually religious but can include organizations like the masons or stags
  1308. [2011-12-27 19:25:16] <Arkeus> <_____<
  1309. [2011-12-27 19:25:26] <Arkeus> Ah, ok
  1310. [2011-12-27 19:25:31] <ManOfSleepOhMyGodHowLongHasItB> Aw, Arkus, really? Oh well.
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  1312. [2011-12-27 19:25:46] <Waryobserver> Y'know, a GQ reebot without the Soul eating induced power ram would be nice.
  1313. [2011-12-27 19:25:47] <Arkeus> Her Graildinant
  1314. [2011-12-27 19:25:51] <Arkeus> having a good dinner?
  1315. [2011-12-27 19:26:07] <guile> and Troy, dont be crazy. Just because I'd be okay with not hearing from ulzrick again doesnt mean I wouldn't give... well, SOMEBODY's left nut to get golem updates again
  1316. [2011-12-27 19:26:25] <ManOfSleepOhMyGodHowLongHasItB> Arkus doesn't like it. I suggest we give his.
  1317. [2011-12-27 19:26:37] <ferdinand> Pretty good day so far
  1318. [2011-12-27 19:26:38] <guile> fair enough. sorry Ark, but them's the rules
  1319. [2011-12-27 19:26:42] <Arkeus> I like it. I simply much prefer GfH.
  1320. [2011-12-27 19:26:42] <ferdinand> Haven't eaten dinner yet.
  1321. [2011-12-27 19:26:57] <ferdinand> Chill Troy, Naive will be starting up Dreamer again.
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  1323. [2011-12-27 19:27:01] <Arkeus> GQ was getting a bit overboard by the time it stopped
  1324. [2011-12-27 19:27:08] <guile> soooo.... Mammon dinner party. Wish we'd had assurances that we werent on the menu
  1325. [2011-12-27 19:27:16] <Arkeus> lol
  1326. [2011-12-27 19:27:17] <guile> "We would like to have you for dinner, Armas."
  1327. [2011-12-27 19:27:22] <ferdinand> We might, maybe, meet Ulzrick there.
  1328. [2011-12-27 19:27:42] <guile> "Did you mean..." "We said what we meant."
  1329. [2011-12-27 19:28:45] <ManOfSleepOhMyGodHowLongHasItB> Oh, god, naive is a wonderful person.
  1330. [2011-12-27 19:29:03] <ManOfSleepOhMyGodHowLongHasItB> ALso, oh my fuckign christ, I...am getting STASIS when it comes out.
  1331. [2011-12-27 19:29:30] <guile> havent heard of it?
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  1333. [2011-12-27 19:29:46] <guile> though this does remind me to check steam for more games to throw my money away on
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  1335. [2011-12-27 19:30:10] <ManOfSleepOhMyGodHowLongHasItB> Yes, go throw money.
  1336. [2011-12-27 19:30:41] <ManOfSleepOhMyGodHowLongHasItB> But...not sure, apparently kinda of indy, coming out 'sometime 2012' but...it looks like 'Classic Black Isle Gaming, with Badass Graphics, In space'
  1337. [2011-12-27 19:31:19] <guile> well, thats not a bad thing to look like
  1338. [2011-12-27 19:33:54] <ManOfSleepOhMyGodHowLongHasItB> No, no it isn't.
  1339. [2011-12-27 19:34:03] <ManOfSleepOhMyGodHowLongHasItB> I hope it lives up to my hopes.
  1340. [2011-12-27 19:36:33] <ferdinand> http://www.wimp.com/besttaxi/
  1341. [2011-12-27 19:41:37] <ManOfSleepOhMyGodHowLongHasItB> Annd it's made in south africa.
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  1344. [2011-12-27 19:43:36] <guile> I havent played any princes of persia since sands of time. are any of these new ones that good?>
  1345. [2011-12-27 19:44:33] <Shot__> Meh...
  1346. [2011-12-27 19:44:49] <Shot__> More focused on combat as the series goes on, honestly
  1347. [2011-12-27 19:49:41] <Waryobserver> Summer Query: If we get a boon from Whaitiri we can Megaman an enemy, correct?
  1348. [2011-12-27 19:49:47] <MrTT> oh god... mammon bought the finish devil rights to us...
  1349. [2011-12-27 19:49:51] <Waryobserver> No
  1350. [2011-12-27 19:49:58] <MrTT> just like we offered to buy from the rights to Armas Valkonen
  1351. [2011-12-27 19:50:00] <MrTT> that is hilarious
  1352. [2011-12-27 19:50:40] <Waryobserver> That was purchased by Another
  1353. [2011-12-27 19:50:50] <Waryobserver> Doesn't mean Mammon
  1354. [2011-12-27 19:51:04] <guile> Mammon or Mammon subsidiaries
  1355. [2011-12-27 19:51:15] <Waryobserver> It implies mammon, but probably means he didn't
  1356. [2011-12-27 19:51:33] <guile> also consider the implications of a 'devil and demon gathering'
  1357. [2011-12-27 19:51:47] <guile> I kinda want to go just to say we did
  1358. [2011-12-27 19:51:54] <Waryobserver> It implies we do not go to it. Deathtrap
  1359. [2011-12-27 19:52:21] <Waryobserver> No, It's a double deathtrap with complementary battle toad
  1360. [2011-12-27 19:52:56] <ferdinand> Yeah, that's pretty much what Whaitiri can do.
  1361. [2011-12-27 19:53:16] <MrTT> while it might be a death trap, it might also be a deathtrap to refuse
  1362. [2011-12-27 19:53:48] <MrTT> refusing to go can be considered reneging on the agreement and forfitting our soul, and then a bunch of devils appear and apprehend us when we next exit the house
  1363. [2011-12-27 19:53:54] <ferdinand> On the bright side this is a good excuse to buddy up with Johan some more
  1364. [2011-12-27 19:54:00] <MrTT> Interestingly though, mammon does NOT seem to want to fuck our shit up
  1365. [2011-12-27 19:54:07] <MrTT> because he said "come at your leisure"
  1366. [2011-12-27 19:54:14] <MrTT> that is, this is an open invitation when we feel ready
  1367. [2011-12-27 19:54:19] <Waryobserver> The Deal was dependant on them coming to us
  1368. [2011-12-27 19:54:22] <Waryobserver> That deal is over
  1369. [2011-12-27 19:54:24] <MrTT> I think we definitely need to do some investigating
  1370. [2011-12-27 19:54:49] <Arkeus> Yeah, but not today i think
  1371. [2011-12-27 19:54:51] <MrTT> @Ferdinand: Agreed, johan is currently happy with us... and we really could use an on staff bullet maker
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  1373. [2011-12-27 19:56:04] <guile> we cant afford him
  1374. [2011-12-27 19:56:29] <Ironybot> Johan is running a highly successful business independent of us, and doesn't need to tie himself to someone as careless as we are even if we could somehow make employment under us more lucrative than his current ways of doing things.
  1375. [2011-12-27 19:56:49] <guile> yes, what Irony said
  1376. [2011-12-27 19:57:10] <ferdinand> I don't want to hire him
  1377. [2011-12-27 19:57:21] <Ironybot> Unless our company becomes worth hundreds of millions, minimum, or we get some kind of serious leverage or debt on him, having him work for us is laughable.
  1378. [2011-12-27 19:57:24] <Arky> I also think i am going to post about making up to Camella by using Einrik while going to Ito for lessons
  1379. [2011-12-27 19:57:46] <Ironybot> This afternoon needs to be spent on the Mammon thing. Specifically, consultation with Johan about demons.
  1380. [2011-12-27 19:57:50] <ferdinand> I think he will find this situation will pique his intrerest.
  1381. [2011-12-27 19:58:02] <Arky> Ironybot: you think so?
  1382. [2011-12-27 19:58:04] <Arky> Already?
  1383. [2011-12-27 19:58:06] <Arky> huh...
  1384. [2011-12-27 19:58:14] <ferdinand> Do it while we have time today.
  1385. [2011-12-27 19:58:18] <Ironybot> We have been appallingly careless on finding out more about the infernal when we KNOW that we are entangled with them, increasingly so.
  1386. [2011-12-27 19:58:20] <Arky> I think putting the Camella situation on hold is a bad move.
  1387. [2011-12-27 19:58:34] <Ironybot> We don't have to put it on hold- we tell Einrik about it and then leave him to handle it.
  1388. [2011-12-27 19:58:34] <Arky> But, this is true to.
  1389. [2011-12-27 19:58:42] <Ironybot> Takes like half an hour, tops.
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  1391. [2011-12-27 19:58:54] <Arky> I want to train chakra with Ito :-(
  1392. [2011-12-27 19:58:58] <Arky> But, fair enough.
  1393. [2011-12-27 19:59:20] <Arky> I will post my plan nevertheless, in case you don't post yours quick enough
  1394. [2011-12-27 19:59:24] <Ironybot> We can chakra train after we've gotten more information on the ways that we are likely to die.
  1395. [2011-12-27 19:59:42] <guile> I want to get the russians more jobs
  1396. [2011-12-27 19:59:48] <Arky> I also don't think Johann will give us those info for free.
  1397. [2011-12-27 20:00:05] <Arky> guile: we are waiting for calls. If you ahve ideas to get them now, post them.
  1398. [2011-12-27 20:00:12] <guile> yes, unless we agree to bring him with us if we go
  1399. [2011-12-27 20:00:28] <ferdinand> Do we have a +1?
  1400. [2011-12-27 20:00:32] <guile> We're waiting on Rocco and Go Ping. I suggested contacting Riker and Arkvad's HR dept last update
  1401. [2011-12-27 20:00:56] <ferdinand> Suggest it again
  1402. [2011-12-27 20:01:53] <Arky> http://pastebin.com/KtRtHWeF first draft of my post
  1403. [2011-12-27 20:01:54] <Ironybot> We need to drop off the Matebas with Arkvad, still, and get a solid description of what the Hunter job entails.
  1404. [2011-12-27 20:02:23] <Arky> That's important too, yeah
  1405. [2011-12-27 20:02:33] <Arky> And we still need to tell Go Ping about Illness
  1406. [2011-12-27 20:05:31] <Waryobserver> Post looks solid Ark, though personally I'd rather see some summer training in there.
  1407. [2011-12-27 20:05:35] <guile> yeah... we forgot that
  1408. [2011-12-27 20:05:36] <guile> bummer
  1409. [2011-12-27 20:05:42] <Arky> too many stuff, yes
  1410. [2011-12-27 20:05:51] <Arky> which is why i am glad we didn't have to deal with devil now
  1411. [2011-12-27 20:06:21] <guile> I just posted, would someone else mind bringing that up? Or we could just wait until he calls, I guess...
  1412. [2011-12-27 20:06:39] <Arky> i have the Go Ping bit in my post
  1413. [2011-12-27 20:06:46] <guile> cool
  1414. [2011-12-27 20:06:50] <Arky> It's about whether we want to get computer from triad
  1415. [2011-12-27 20:07:09] <MrTT> I should calrify, making johan work exclusively for us is unreasonable
  1416. [2011-12-27 20:07:09] <guile> I'd pass on that personally, although clearly someone wants to
  1417. [2011-12-27 20:07:20] <Arky> I'll pass on that oo
  1418. [2011-12-27 20:07:29] <MrTT> But a subcontractor with good relationship that does a lot of work for us isn't
  1419. [2011-12-27 20:07:30] <Arky> I SUST the bit about yama uba's website
  1420. [2011-12-27 20:07:33] <Arky> at least for now
  1421. [2011-12-27 20:07:56] <MrTT> Didn't we get told not to be too pushy and take our time with her?
  1422. [2011-12-27 20:07:56] <Ironybot> You mention in your post that you would like to know if Silja's been contacted by Note Guy- she has not. We haven't mentioned his existence to her, thus she could not have given explicit permission for him to speak with her and thus he can't have done so, assuming he didn't lie in his note.
  1423. [2011-12-27 20:08:16] <MrTT> We wanted to give permission but we don't know how
  1424. [2011-12-27 20:08:29] <guile> I thought he was looking for OUR permission to contact her, not hers
  1425. [2011-12-27 20:08:47] <Ironybot> Both of us had to give permission.
  1426. [2011-12-27 20:08:52] <MrTT> @Guile:" he is
  1427. [2011-12-27 20:09:14] <Waryobserver> GUILE
  1428. [2011-12-27 20:09:21] <Waryobserver> DO YOU PLAN TO SERENADE CAMMY?
  1429. [2011-12-27 20:09:32] <Arky> btw, it seems romanov really was responsible for hybrid healing
  1430. [2011-12-27 20:09:49] <Arky> As doubling our inner soul manip seems to have boosted it rather significantly
  1431. [2011-12-27 20:10:20] <Arky> Also, important point: the password to get to the gathering could re-link us to Mammon's device, even if we ARE unlinked
  1432. [2011-12-27 20:10:22] <Arky> not good
  1433. [2011-12-27 20:10:25] <guile> That I do, Waryperson. That I do.
  1434. [2011-12-27 20:10:41] <Ironybot> How does that make sense? Romanov is a Winter bloodline; it shouldn't logically have portions devoted to Winter/Summer interactions that it could never normally use.
  1435. [2011-12-27 20:10:57] <guile> if its not in our possession, we should be okay
  1436. [2011-12-27 20:11:00] <Arky> Ironybot: Romanov has a fuck you death component
  1437. [2011-12-27 20:11:07] <guile> and a mystery attached
  1438. [2011-12-27 20:11:10] <Arky> It seems to me our summer bloodline latched unto it
  1439. [2011-12-27 20:11:39] <Ironybot> I would find it more logical that hybrid healing is a product of internal bloodline use in general, and Romanov is merely an internal bloodline and therefore usable in that manner.
  1440. [2011-12-27 20:11:49] <Ironybot> As is Darkening.
  1441. [2011-12-27 20:12:05] <Arky> Given how fucking impossible hybrid techs are supposed to be, i think there is more to ir
  1442. [2011-12-27 20:12:06] <Arky> it
  1443. [2011-12-27 20:12:16] <guile> true, it could be Darkening interacting with things, I suppose
  1444. [2011-12-27 20:12:17] <Ironybot> Almost certainly. Smells like programmed data to me.
  1445. [2011-12-27 20:12:43] <guile> programmed by whom?
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  1447. [2011-12-27 20:12:45] <Waryobserver> I wonder if we could use our inner soul powers to make us able to take on A spring+Fall bloodline/s
  1448. [2011-12-27 20:12:57] <guile> the bloodline, Whaitiri, Armas himself subconsciously?
  1449. [2011-12-27 20:13:30] <guile> bloodlines are literally in the blood - Id be surprised if our soul manip could do that
  1450. [2011-12-27 20:13:59] <ferdinand> Sorry Wary.
  1451. [2011-12-27 20:14:08] <ferdinand> Can't do that.
  1452. [2011-12-27 20:15:06] <Ironybot> Armas is full of programmed data reaching back to the soul bomb- at which point we also suspect he got his bloodlines installed.
  1453. [2011-12-27 20:15:19] <Arky> We aslo don't know if we have a soul bopmb
  1454. [2011-12-27 20:15:21] <Ironybot> Both his Summer and Winter lines. Which are needed for hybrid healing.
  1455. [2011-12-27 20:15:26] <Arky> or if it's not one of the two other cases
  1456. [2011-12-27 20:15:28] <Ironybot> Fine, the theoretical soul bomb.
  1457. [2011-12-27 20:15:32] <Arky> or even something completely different
  1458. [2011-12-27 20:16:13] <Arky> Ok, added some bits about johann in my update
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  1460. [2011-12-27 20:16:36] <Waryobserver> Bloodline was a bad choice of wording, Seasonally aligned powerset works better
  1461. [2011-12-27 20:18:28] <subtle_wit> Are there any kaiser bloodlines out there still? And maybe a Franz Joseph descendant?
  1462. [2011-12-27 20:18:57] <subtle_wit> League of Three Emperors, go. Armas would have no problem declaring himself an emperor
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  1464. [2011-12-27 20:21:01] <MrTT> "<Ironybot> I would find it more logical that hybrid healing is a product of internal bloodline use in general, and Romanov is merely an internal bloodline and therefore usable in that manner." - agreed
  1465. [2011-12-27 20:21:04] <MrTT> that makes the most sense
  1466. [2011-12-27 20:21:18] <MrTT> Also I do not think hybrid tech are impossible, just rare
  1467. [2011-12-27 20:21:25] <MrTT> And the best source to learn more are dragons
  1468. [2011-12-27 20:21:29] <Arky> That could make the most sense if it dates back to our 'programming'
  1469. [2011-12-27 20:21:31] <MrTT> who naturally have all 4 nodes
  1470. [2011-12-27 20:21:37] <Arky> If it does not, however, it means Romanov
  1471. [2011-12-27 20:21:45] <Arky> After all, some of it is hidden even from OG
  1472. [2011-12-27 20:22:27] <Ironybot> Yeah, I really hope that at some point we'll be able to get on a dragon's good side and learn about hybrid magic. They would have to really, really like us to even consider teaching us that, though.
  1473. [2011-12-27 20:22:46] <MrTT> Also, has anyone considered the possibility that the divine soul graft was related to the hybrid healing and the reason it got better is that armas became a godling
  1474. [2011-12-27 20:22:53] <Ironybot> It seems like the sort of thing that they'd usually consider no business of the lesser creatures.
  1475. [2011-12-27 20:22:55] <MrTT> making his winter bloodline divine too
  1476. [2011-12-27 20:23:05] <MrTT> rather then the improvement of innner soul manip
  1477. [2011-12-27 20:23:12] <Arky> ... good idea
  1478. [2011-12-27 20:23:16] <Arky> i'll add it
  1479. [2011-12-27 20:23:32] <MrTT> @Ironybot: I think the best bet would be to find a human ascended to dragonhood
  1480. [2011-12-27 20:23:38] <MrTT> like, say, the dragon who rules the triads
  1481. [2011-12-27 20:24:22] <Ironybot> I don't know about that. Any human ascended to dragon status will have a great deal of motivation to have impeccable draconic conduct.
  1482. [2011-12-27 20:24:49] <MrTT> well
  1483. [2011-12-27 20:24:54] <MrTT> we already know some dragons are not dicks
  1484. [2011-12-27 20:25:01] <MrTT> like the australian ones
  1485. [2011-12-27 20:25:04] <Waryobserver> How does one ascend to being a dragon?
  1486. [2011-12-27 20:25:14] <ferdinand> You win the crucible
  1487. [2011-12-27 20:25:18] <Waryobserver> And product of a power ramp?
  1488. [2011-12-27 20:25:19] <Waryobserver> Oh
  1489. [2011-12-27 20:25:26] <Ironybot> Win the Crucible of Ascension or eat a lot of dragons and absorb their power.
  1490. [2011-12-27 20:25:27] <MrTT> Dragons have a championship where the slaughter the most promising mortal magic users
  1491. [2011-12-27 20:25:35] <MrTT> and if you win against all odds they turn you into one
  1492. [2011-12-27 20:25:51] <MrTT> @Ironybot: Eating dragons is unique to armas due to having the soul graft of whaitiri
  1493. [2011-12-27 20:25:58] <MrTT> Normal mortals do not ascend via eating dragons
  1494. [2011-12-27 20:26:08] <ferdinand> It's really a big Draconic scheme that nets them a ridiculous amount of free resources while thinning out the number of powerful mortals and taking the best of them for themselves
  1495. [2011-12-27 20:26:27] <ferdinand> But eh, people still do it anyway.
  1496. [2011-12-27 20:26:28] <Waryobserver> Could we megaman a dragon for its powers? even a reduced version of those powers?
  1497. [2011-12-27 20:26:39] <MrTT> And armas needs to eat 8 ruling dragons worth of dragon magic (which translates IIRC to 50 high tier, 100 mid tier, and a whole mountain of shit tier)
  1498. [2011-12-27 20:26:46] <Ironybot> Eating dragons is NOT unique to Armas, it's merely a rare method which he has available to him. There are other powersets out there which would allow others to do the same.
  1499. [2011-12-27 20:27:02] <MrTT> My theory is that we will get partial draconic powers long before full draconic transformation
  1500. [2011-12-27 20:27:13] <MrTT> Sorry unique was a bad way to say it
  1501. [2011-12-27 20:27:18] <Ironybot> But you are right in that the vast majority of people do not have that option.
  1502. [2011-12-27 20:27:25] <MrTT> you are right it is a rare trait that is not unique, just rare
  1503. [2011-12-27 20:27:30] <ferdinand> It was initial described as cannibal god shenanigans, which could mean from power derived from any cannibal god or really any powerful cannibal source
  1504. [2011-12-27 20:27:33] <MrTT> but the majority of people will not ascend from eating dragons
  1505. [2011-12-27 20:28:43] <Arky> My instinct is that there are charms to mimiccannibal powers
  1506. [2011-12-27 20:28:59] <Arky> and people who are powerful to kill dragons could invest in them
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  1509. [2011-12-27 20:34:34] <Waryobserver> Query: What sort of thing would an offensive charm be; and is it worth looking into for Armas?
  1510. [2011-12-27 20:34:36] <ferdinand> You know for some reason I get the feeling Savoy might be there.
  1511. [2011-12-27 20:34:49] <Arkeus> Yes, that was talked about
  1512. [2011-12-27 20:35:16] <Arkeus> He got a Demonic contract or a Wizard one?
  1513. [2011-12-27 20:35:22] <Arkeus> Iirc, he was looking for both
  1514. [2011-12-27 20:35:34] <ferdinand> Wizard was before he even betrayed us
  1515. [2011-12-27 20:35:53] <Ironybot> There, posted some things.
  1516. [2011-12-27 20:36:00] <ferdinand> But he was training in it for a good while
  1517. [2011-12-27 20:36:02] <ferdinand> Still might be.
  1518. [2011-12-27 20:36:03] <Arkeus> woa, whoi made that long ass suggestion?
  1519. [2011-12-27 20:36:09] <Arkeus> oh, Ironybot
  1520. [2011-12-27 20:36:19] <ferdinand> At this rate I'll bet he has a demonic contract too
  1521. [2011-12-27 20:38:57] <Arkeus> <ferdinand> Wizard was before he even betrayed us <= he got wizard contract before he btrayed us and still lost?
  1522. [2011-12-27 20:39:00] <Arkeus> AAHAHAHA
  1523. [2011-12-27 20:39:03] <ferdinand> I'm not sure we've seen any offensive charms actually, I bet Lo Fang's paper charm style uses them heavily
  1524. [2011-12-27 20:39:11] <Arkeus> Yeah
  1525. [2011-12-27 20:39:15] <ferdinand> Arkeus wizard contracts take a while to go into effect
  1526. [2011-12-27 20:39:29] <ferdinand> I think you have to wait for a moon cycle or something
  1527. [2011-12-27 20:39:39] <MrTT> are you talking about savoy?
  1528. [2011-12-27 20:39:46] <MrTT> he was WORKING on it but only got it after we beat him
  1529. [2011-12-27 20:39:51] <MrTT> and has been training in it since
  1530. [2011-12-27 20:40:14] <MrTT> from the wizard he got lightening manip
  1531. [2011-12-27 20:40:24] <MrTT> really stupid, he should have gotten a stealth power
  1532. [2011-12-27 20:40:31] <MrTT> to utilize his teleporting in battle
  1533. [2011-12-27 20:42:06] <TMIoverload> He had the contract before he betrayed us, but it takes a lunar cycle before it's usable
  1534. [2011-12-27 20:42:41] <Arkeus> Any idea why?
  1535. [2011-12-27 20:42:50] <TMIoverload> Why it takes so long? Magic
  1536. [2011-12-27 20:42:55] <Waryobserver> Mooon has somehting to do with wizards
  1537. [2011-12-27 20:42:55] <Ironybot> Lightning manipulation is fairly ridiculously powerful, and can be backended into stealth indirectly if he knows what he's doing.
  1538. [2011-12-27 20:42:59] <Arkeus> Also, is it me or our version of Romanov can't rez soul, while Gleb's can?
  1539. [2011-12-27 20:43:24] <Arkeus> if so, do you think it's because he has einher, or because we have summer/darkening/sami?
  1540. [2011-12-27 20:43:25] <Waryobserver> Could just be experience,
  1541. [2011-12-27 20:43:27] <TMIoverload> Why do you think his can Rez souls? Not all Divine Arbiter's kill the soul
  1542. [2011-12-27 20:43:29] <Ironybot> For example, if he makes a huge lightning blast that blinds/distracts people he'll open up a teleport window through visual/audio.
  1543. [2011-12-27 20:43:36] <Arkeus> TMIoverload: bob confirmed it
  1544. [2011-12-27 20:43:45] <MrTT> Lightening is not light ironybot
  1545. [2011-12-27 20:44:00] <MrTT> the only use for it for stealth is to blind someone with a flash of light
  1546. [2011-12-27 20:44:04] <MrTT> or burn out their eyes
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  1548. [2011-12-27 20:44:08] <Arkeus> Basically, MAD asked him if we destroyed his soul
  1549. [2011-12-27 20:44:12] <Arkeus> bob said yes, iirc
  1550. [2011-12-27 20:45:00] <MrTT> maybe you need to actively tap into the unkown 40% of romanov to get soul resurrection
  1551. [2011-12-27 20:45:04] <Ironybot> Also, I suspect that lightning manipulation->electricity manipulation->controlling nerve signals, potentially.
  1552. [2011-12-27 20:45:15] <TMIoverload> Could be the secret power, could be rezzing enough from death served as a big enough power-up for his bloodline to get better, or it could be that our bloodline's reliance on our soul, givent hat's the sort of magic it does, meant the final prduct requires the soul
  1553. [2011-12-27 20:45:37] <MrTT> Ironybot, that is not gonna work due to resistance and difficulty of working on the internals of someone else's body at range and without their permission
  1554. [2011-12-27 20:45:46] <TMIoverload> MrTT, Wizard
  1555. [2011-12-27 20:45:51] <MrTT> This is why SB cannot just sever an enemy's optic nerve
  1556. [2011-12-27 20:46:06] <Ironybot> But with enough power, he CAN just sever an enemy's optic nerve.
  1557. [2011-12-27 20:46:14] <MrTT> With enough power so can we
  1558. [2011-12-27 20:46:17] <Ironybot> And Wizards have power in spades.
  1559. [2011-12-27 20:46:18] <TMIoverload> A wizard contract isn't getting a practitioner power, it's getting the Wizard's ability toperform that kind of magic
  1560. [2011-12-27 20:46:23] <MrTT> He isn't a wizard
  1561. [2011-12-27 20:46:30] <MrTT> he is a practitioner with a wizard contract
  1562. [2011-12-27 20:46:30] <Arkeus> [24-12-2011 | 00:41:35] <MrTT> @Bob: When we killed gleb with the soul scale, did we kill his body or his soul?
  1563. [2011-12-27 20:46:37] <Arkeus> [24-12-2011 | 00:49:38] <Bobcat> 4MrTT: his soul
  1564. [2011-12-27 20:46:51] <PriceisMagic> Huh
  1565. [2011-12-27 20:46:58] <PriceisMagic> Then how did he come back?
  1566. [2011-12-27 20:47:02] <MrTT> magic
  1567. [2011-12-27 20:47:11] <PriceisMagic> ...could we do that?
  1568. [2011-12-27 20:47:18] <PriceisMagic> Or is our one only for the body
  1569. [2011-12-27 20:47:18] <Arkeus> We don't know
  1570. [2011-12-27 20:47:19] <ferdinand> Who knows
  1571. [2011-12-27 20:47:24] <MrTT> maybe, but under current amen binding he will go free
  1572. [2011-12-27 20:47:31] <PriceisMagic> Yeah
  1573. [2011-12-27 20:47:35] <MrTT> unless... did we say the soul has to be irreversibly destroyed?
  1574. [2011-12-27 20:47:35] <PriceisMagic> To bad
  1575. [2011-12-27 20:47:39] <Arkeus> that's why i had "permanent" soul death in our order to Amen
  1576. [2011-12-27 20:47:43] <Arkeus> not just osul death
  1577. [2011-12-27 20:47:55] <TMIoverload> MrTT, Savoy isn't a practitioner. He's a bloodline user. Practitioners have a wide power-set. He has a single bloodline that's powerful but limited in use and a wizard contract. Unless he's made a deal for another bloodline
  1578. [2011-12-27 20:47:56] <MrTT> did we actually say permanent? if so then we are good
  1579. [2011-12-27 20:48:02] <Arkeus> MrTT: yep
  1580. [2011-12-27 20:48:14] <subtle_wit> I fully expect Gleb's bloodline to be more powerful than ours
  1581. [2011-12-27 20:48:32] <MrTT> Ok fair enough... my point is that getting a wizard contract gets you an ability from a wizard, but most likely not access to the wizard infinite pool of mana
  1582. [2011-12-27 20:48:35] <ferdinand> Actually it's not
  1583. [2011-12-27 20:48:41] <ferdinand> Well depends
  1584. [2011-12-27 20:48:50] <ferdinand> He obviously has a far better understanding of it than we do
  1585. [2011-12-27 20:48:55] <subtle_wit> there is some overlap, as vamp shadow users are called practitioners; a wide power-set, but limited to shadow. a shadow bloodline user would be similar, I think, maybe a bit more specific
  1586. [2011-12-27 20:48:59] <MrTT> he can resurrect 2x a day
  1587. [2011-12-27 20:49:04] <MrTT> we can resurrect a lot more then him
  1588. [2011-12-27 20:49:15] <subtle_wit> 2x a day versus 10 times a week
  1589. [2011-12-27 20:49:16] <Arkeus> iirc, he cna rez 3 times
  1590. [2011-12-27 20:49:19] <Arkeus> not sure, though
  1591. [2011-12-27 20:49:26] <MrTT> no he needs to die 3 times
  1592. [2011-12-27 20:49:29] <MrTT> for it to stick
  1593. [2011-12-27 20:49:31] <Arkeus> OTOH, gleb takes all of his lives back every days
  1594. [2011-12-27 20:49:32] <Shot__> >I have gamed with someone who, medically speaking, died from a gunshot wound.
  1595. [2011-12-27 20:49:42] <Shot__> Funny, I didn't know Armas was into /tg/
  1596. [2011-12-27 20:49:43] <TMIoverload> MrTT, two a day is not less times then us, just a smaller storage area
  1597. [2011-12-27 20:49:46] <MrTT> well the exact mechanics of romanov resurrections vary by the individual according to bob
  1598. [2011-12-27 20:49:51] <Arkeus> I am pretty sure our bloodline is stronger than his, though he also has Einher
  1599. [2011-12-27 20:49:53] <MrTT> it is slightly different for each memeber of the family
  1600. [2011-12-27 20:50:02] <MrTT> He has 3 bloodlines
  1601. [2011-12-27 20:50:07] <MrTT> Romanov, Einher, and that feeding one
  1602. [2011-12-27 20:50:19] <Arkeus> that's an assumption fo yours
  1603. [2011-12-27 20:50:23] <MrTT> no
  1604. [2011-12-27 20:50:27] <TMIoverload> Three is impossible
  1605. [2011-12-27 20:50:27] <Arkeus> i don't think that feeding one was ever talked about
  1606. [2011-12-27 20:50:35] <ferdinand> I don't recall getting any information that specified it as a per day thing, simply that we would have had to kill him three times.
  1607. [2011-12-27 20:50:39] <subtle_wit> and I'm kinda iffy on if einher is a real bloodline
  1608. [2011-12-27 20:50:42] <subtle_wit> being gifted, and all
  1609. [2011-12-27 20:50:44] <MrTT> i am pretty sure it came up during the discussion on how to claim his bloodline specifically
  1610. [2011-12-27 20:50:45] <TMIoverload> And I recall Bob saying the feeding thing wasn't a bloodline, but that he had the digestiuve system of some magical thing
  1611. [2011-12-27 20:50:52] <ferdinand> Which could be a result of him having stored them on the day we faced him.
  1612. [2011-12-27 20:51:03] <MrTT> Three is possible. 1 from mother, 1 from father, 1 from odin personally imbuing you with einher
  1613. [2011-12-27 20:51:16] <MrTT> he got einher from odin not from inherited from parent
  1614. [2011-12-27 20:51:17] <Arkeus> Right, posted
  1615. [2011-12-27 20:51:38] <MrTT> And if having a bloodline prevented odin from giving you einher, then having romanov would have stopped it already
  1616. [2011-12-27 20:51:40] <ferdinand> I missed information on this feeding thing.
  1617. [2011-12-27 20:51:43] <Arkeus> MrTT: again, that's assumption
  1618. [2011-12-27 20:51:45] <ferdinand> Someone clue me in.
  1619. [2011-12-27 20:51:52] <subtle_wit> Ive never heard anything about this feeding thing
  1620. [2011-12-27 20:51:55] <MrTT> ark, what is asusmption
  1621. [2011-12-27 20:51:58] <Arkeus> and we know we had a 50/50 chance of getting einher/romanov
  1622. [2011-12-27 20:51:58] <MrTT> He has magic teeth
  1623. [2011-12-27 20:52:02] <MrTT> He ate like crazy
  1624. [2011-12-27 20:52:04] <Arkeus> so, i think he never had a third bloodline
  1625. [2011-12-27 20:52:05] <MrTT> unnaturally fast
  1626. [2011-12-27 20:52:11] <Arkeus> all of that could be einher
  1627. [2011-12-27 20:52:13] <MrTT> with teeth that look all wrong and shattered bone
  1628. [2011-12-27 20:52:22] <MrTT> Well einher DOES act as a seed
  1629. [2011-12-27 20:52:28] <MrTT> so maybe he grew his einher into feeding
  1630. [2011-12-27 20:52:30] <ferdinand> I assumed you meant that, but were going to elaborate with information from Bob
  1631. [2011-12-27 20:52:40] <TMIoverload> Yeah, that wasn't a bloodline MrTT. Just like a Whaitiri boon is not a seperate bloodline for us
  1632. [2011-12-27 20:52:42] <ferdinand> Kind of disappointed.
  1633. [2011-12-27 20:52:59] <TMIoverload> It was something seperate he had grafted on
  1634. [2011-12-27 20:53:15] <MrTT> I thought we got mention of it being bloodline, either from bob or our discussion about it with amen
  1635. [2011-12-27 20:53:22] <TMIoverload> No we didn't
  1636. [2011-12-27 20:53:25] <MrTT> but eh, doesn't matter
  1637. [2011-12-27 20:53:26] <ferdinand> We did not.
  1638. [2011-12-27 20:53:41] <MrTT> thing is, we did get a full romanov
  1639. [2011-12-27 20:53:43] <ferdinand> If I were to wager I'd say his armor was from Coyote.
  1640. [2011-12-27 20:53:51] <ferdinand> And that the maw was a gift
  1641. [2011-12-27 20:53:58] <ferdinand> In addition to it for services rendered.
  1642. [2011-12-27 20:54:01] <Arkeus> It kinda matters, because it's been believed that 2 bloodlines is the maximum possible for humans
  1643. [2011-12-27 20:54:21] <TMIoverload> Not believed possible. Bob has said more then that is impossible.
  1644. [2011-12-27 20:54:51] <MrTT> no ark
  1645. [2011-12-27 20:54:55] <TMIoverload> That said, I don't think the same courts count as separate bloodlines.
  1646. [2011-12-27 20:55:01] <MrTT> We were told by bob that a human can only be BORN with 2 bloodlines
  1647. [2011-12-27 20:55:05] <MrTT> 1 from each parent
  1648. [2011-12-27 20:55:20] <Arkeus> Again, i don't think the word born was used
  1649. [2011-12-27 20:55:23] <TMIoverload> No MrTT, we've been told that short of going Dragon we can't gain another
  1650. [2011-12-27 20:55:23] <MrTT> However we have proof, in gleb, that an existing bloodline does not prevent a new one from being grafted
  1651. [2011-12-27 20:55:34] <MrTT> Also, i think maybe if you go beyond 2 you cease being human
  1652. [2011-12-27 20:55:38] <MrTT> but it might still be possible
  1653. [2011-12-27 20:55:45] <MrTT> Dragon can have dozens fo bloodlines
  1654. [2011-12-27 20:55:45] <TMIoverload> MrTT, we've been told that before too. That a god can blank your bloodline and put a new one in
  1655. [2011-12-27 20:55:56] <MrTT> But gleb didn't get blanked
  1656. [2011-12-27 20:56:00] <MrTT> he got an addition bloodline
  1657. [2011-12-27 20:56:20] <MrTT> Bob did say that we could not become season-man
  1658. [2011-12-27 20:56:21] <Arkeus> And that may be because he had only one
  1659. [2011-12-27 20:56:33] <subtle_wit> If einherjar and his teeth are indeed both separate bloodlines
  1660. [2011-12-27 20:56:37] <MrTT> But i think this is an issue with balacing opposing forces
  1661. [2011-12-27 20:56:45] <TMIoverload> \Again, I don't think bloodlines in the same court count as having different bloodlines. More like it's a big slot that, if you know how, can keep separate from one another so the stuff you put in functions independently
  1662. [2011-12-27 20:56:48] <MrTT> in that adding spring or summer to the mix is too much for a human to handle
  1663. [2011-12-27 20:57:07] <MrTT> Well, they ARE different bloodlines TMI
  1664. [2011-12-27 20:57:10] <subtle_wit> true, otherwise how could the Valkonen bloodline count as one but have something like 5 different subsets?
  1665. [2011-12-27 20:57:11] <MrTT> you inherit them seperately
  1666. [2011-12-27 20:57:16] <MrTT> a child only gets one or the other, not both
  1667. [2011-12-27 20:57:17] <TMIoverload> A computer with two hard-drives or graphics cards is still one computer
  1668. [2011-12-27 20:57:27] <MrTT> there are two completely different ythings
  1669. [2011-12-27 20:57:30] <MrTT> there is a compounded bloodline
  1670. [2011-12-27 20:57:37] <MrTT> and there are multiple bloodlines of the same court
  1671. [2011-12-27 20:57:38] <MrTT> both are possible
  1672. [2011-12-27 20:57:44] <ferdinand> Einher and his teeth could be, but we really have no reason to believe they are.
  1673. [2011-12-27 20:57:51] <MrTT> A compounded bloodline is taking a bloodline and adding stuff to it
  1674. [2011-12-27 20:58:00] <Arkeus> nah
  1675. [2011-12-27 20:58:00] <MrTT> if the two parents have very similar bloodlines then they might compound naturally
  1676. [2011-12-27 20:58:08] <Arkeus> a compounded bloodline is rcurving it
  1677. [2011-12-27 20:58:13] <Arkeus> doubling it up
  1678. [2011-12-27 20:58:13] <MrTT> if the two parents have different bloodlines even in the same court then they will be two seperate bloodlines of the same court
  1679. [2011-12-27 20:58:15] <MrTT> bob did say so
  1680. [2011-12-27 20:58:20] <Arkeus> it's the same one, but with twice as much power
  1681. [2011-12-27 20:58:26] <Arkeus> Well, with higher power
  1682. [2011-12-27 20:58:34] <MrTT> a compounded bloodline is not just more power
  1683. [2011-12-27 20:58:36] <MrTT> its also ability
  1684. [2011-12-27 20:58:44] <Arkeus> Ability comes with power
  1685. [2011-12-27 20:59:05] <MrTT> Armas has a compounded bloodline, it compounds romanov, tiny bit of einher, darkening, and sami
  1686. [2011-12-27 20:59:10] <Arkeus> For example, having x5 darkening would make Armas able to, if he doesn't kill himself, become schordinger from Hellsing
  1687. [2011-12-27 20:59:25] <TMIoverload> Tiny bit of Einher isn't part of the bloodline. It's a soul trick thing
  1688. [2011-12-27 20:59:25] <Arkeus> Armas has a composite bloodline
  1689. [2011-12-27 20:59:26] <MrTT> thats only because he is compoujnding the same thing, the darkeneing
  1690. [2011-12-27 20:59:42] <Arkeus> Composite =! Compounded
  1691. [2011-12-27 20:59:48] <MrTT> TMI, amen MERGED glebs two seperate bloodlines, keeping all of romanov and adding to it a tiny bit of einher
  1692. [2011-12-27 21:00:02] <Arkeus> no MrTT
  1693. [2011-12-27 21:00:04] <Arkeus> those are soul quirk
  1694. [2011-12-27 21:00:08] <Arkeus> the einher bits
  1695. [2011-12-27 21:00:13] <TMIoverload> MrTT, we have confirmation from bob threat detection and item sensing are not part of a bloodline, but soul tricks
  1696. [2011-12-27 21:00:13] <MrTT> what we got from gleb is "amen made glebs custom" which is romanov with item sense
  1697. [2011-12-27 21:00:13] <Arkeus> they aren't really part of the bloodline
  1698. [2011-12-27 21:00:16] <MrTT> You are wrong ark
  1699. [2011-12-27 21:00:19] <MrTT> completely wrong
  1700. [2011-12-27 21:00:26] <Arkeus> We ahd confirmation
  1701. [2011-12-27 21:00:28] <MrTT> The opposite
  1702. [2011-12-27 21:00:35] <MrTT> we have confirmation that they are part of the bloodline
  1703. [2011-12-27 21:00:40] <MrTT> it explicitly said so
  1704. [2011-12-27 21:00:45] <TMIoverload> MrTT, nope. We have confirmation they're soul quirks
  1705. [2011-12-27 21:00:51] <MrTT> then he contradicted himself
  1706. [2011-12-27 21:00:55] <MrTT> not the first time
  1707. [2011-12-27 21:01:10] <Arkeus> it's indisc threa,d MrTT
  1708. [2011-12-27 21:01:11] <MrTT> also WTF is a soul quirk
  1709. [2011-12-27 21:01:14] <TMIoverload> Or you interpretted something incorrectly
  1710. [2011-12-27 21:01:22] <MrTT> doesn't matter where it is ark
  1711. [2011-12-27 21:01:25] <MrTT> its contradicting itself
  1712. [2011-12-27 21:01:44] <Arkeus> The Einherjar-derived Item Sensing and such are not actually part of the bloodline-think of them as soul quirks, in the same way as Camell'as soul observational skills. <= this
  1713. [2011-12-27 21:01:54] <TMIoverload> Attaching a trick to the bloodline, and attach is the word Amen used, is not the same as making it part of the bloodline
  1714. [2011-12-27 21:07:10] <BUTTZ> "Yo Amen, I want to look like the President"
  1715. [2011-12-27 21:07:16] <Arkeus> :-(
  1716. [2011-12-27 21:07:32] <BUTTZ> "Amen, address me as "Mister President Master Sir"
  1717. [2011-12-27 21:08:33] <BUTTZ> "Ok, now do your best Marilyn Monroe impression. It's my birthday.""
  1718. [2011-12-27 21:08:46] <Arkeus> Are you high.
  1719. [2011-12-27 21:08:47] <Arkeus> ?
  1720. [2011-12-27 21:08:58] <BUTTZ> It'd be funny and creepy
  1721. [2011-12-27 21:09:02] <TheBeardiestBob> Now also be Luise Armstrong on the Sax in the background
  1722. [2011-12-27 21:09:07] <PriceisMagic> The thing is I dont want Amen to foam that mouth every time he sees us
  1723. [2011-12-27 21:09:07] <TheBeardiestBob> and the paparazzi at the window
  1724. [2011-12-27 21:09:10] <TheBeardiestBob> little more...
  1725. [2011-12-27 21:09:15] <TheBeardiestBob> few more paparazzi...
  1726. [2011-12-27 21:09:19] <TheBeardiestBob> Ah, wait, too many
  1727. [2011-12-27 21:09:24] <TheBeardiestBob> get rid of... two
  1728. [2011-12-27 21:09:25] <Arkeus> lol
  1729. [2011-12-27 21:09:27] <TheBeardiestBob> ...THERE we go.
  1730. [2011-12-27 21:10:43] <Ralith> trolling amen would be hilarious but is probably too dangerous
  1731. [2011-12-27 21:11:13] <Arkeus> I am thinking that Armas could make an actual effort of finding good wording for Amen if it was for trolling purposes
  1732. [2011-12-27 21:11:19] <A_Greedy_Squid> >Amen
  1733. [2011-12-27 21:11:23] <A_Greedy_Squid> >Marilyn Monroe impression
  1734. [2011-12-27 21:11:24] <A_Greedy_Squid> YES
  1735. [2011-12-27 21:11:33] <Waryobserver> Bob, which of the following is more dangerous: Amen hating us, or Amen really liking us?
  1736. [2011-12-27 21:11:40] <TheBeardiestBob> Yes
  1737. [2011-12-27 21:11:47] <subtle_wit> its not like Amen will ever STOP hating us
  1738. [2011-12-27 21:11:51] <subtle_wit> even if he likes us
  1739. [2011-12-27 21:11:58] <Arkeus> He will lov gating us
  1740. [2011-12-27 21:12:01] <Arkeus> wait, he already does
  1741. [2011-12-27 21:12:06] <Arkeus> love hating us
  1742. [2011-12-27 21:12:33] <A_Greedy_Squid> It's alright Amen. Even if all these voices inside Armas' mind hates you, I still like you. Well, at least a bit more than everyone else. Still hate you most of the time though
  1743. [2011-12-27 21:12:57] <Arkeus> We aren't voices in Armas mind
  1744. [2011-12-27 21:12:58] <Arkeus> :-(
  1745. [2011-12-27 21:13:01] <BUTTZ> I>[Hummingbird]"Are you certain Devils are not Crows?"
  1746. [2011-12-27 21:13:04] <BUTTZ> Ha ah
  1747. [2011-12-27 21:13:16] <ferdinand> We are Armas' head
  1748. [2011-12-27 21:13:22] <BUTTZ> I've got a murder of crows that hang around my neighborhood and I've asked myself the same question
  1749. [2011-12-27 21:13:23] <TheBeardiestBob> Can you prove devils are NOT crows?
  1750. [2011-12-27 21:13:32] <TheBeardiestBob> can you BUTTZ?
  1751. [2011-12-27 21:13:34] <ferdinand> A devil has never stolen my food.
  1752. [2011-12-27 21:13:39] <ferdinand> Or crapped on my car.
  1753. [2011-12-27 21:13:44] <TheBeardiestBob> Or have they?
  1754. [2011-12-27 21:13:48] <Ralith> :O
  1755. [2011-12-27 21:13:50] <A_Greedy_Squid> You just never noticed
  1756. [2011-12-27 21:14:03] <Arkeus> Those Crows were Devil, obviously
  1757. [2011-12-27 21:14:14] <Arkeus> Also, i am impressed by Armas seeing a Devil's soul
  1758. [2011-12-27 21:14:21] <Arkeus> that must have been quite the low-rank Devil
  1759. [2011-12-27 21:14:26] <TheBeardiestBob> Yup
  1760. [2011-12-27 21:14:28] <TheBeardiestBob> still
  1761. [2011-12-27 21:15:03] <A_Greedy_Squid> Low Rank or no, still a devil
  1762. [2011-12-27 21:15:05] <subtle_wit> Devil intern
  1763. [2011-12-27 21:15:23] <A_Greedy_Squid> Means we're either strong enough, or MAD enough to see it, even if it's just the outline...maybe both...
  1764. [2011-12-27 21:16:03] <ferdinand> Devil IT guy
  1765. [2011-12-27 21:16:10] <Arkeus> A_Greedy_Squid: stop it with the MAD
  1766. [2011-12-27 21:16:12] <ferdinand> Devil Human Resources
  1767. [2011-12-27 21:16:16] <ferdinand> Devil accountant
  1768. [2011-12-27 21:16:22] <Arkeus> the MAD bit was only when the bloodline was in progress
  1769. [2011-12-27 21:17:34] <BUTTZ> Hey don't we still owe Einrik for the helicopter repairs?
  1770. [2011-12-27 21:17:57] * A_Greedy_Squid whistles
  1771. [2011-12-27 21:18:05] <A_Greedy_Squid> What repair?
  1772. [2011-12-27 21:18:16] <BUTTZ> After the fight with Armin
  1773. [2011-12-27 21:18:20] <PriceisMagic> BUTTZ: Quite you fool!
  1774. [2011-12-27 21:18:24] <Arkeus> Oh ff...
  1775. [2011-12-27 21:18:33] <Arkeus> Did we say we'd pay?
  1776. [2011-12-27 21:18:46] <BUTTZ> I remember it as a minor note at the end of the update
  1777. [2011-12-27 21:18:48] <Arkeus> Also, we still need to get into sport competition for Ito
  1778. [2011-12-27 21:18:49] <PriceisMagic> ...Maybe he forget?
  1779. [2011-12-27 21:18:55] <A_Greedy_Squid> Yes yes, he forgot.
  1780. [2011-12-27 21:19:04] <Arkeus> PriceisMagic: we can't lie without discarding our WoG
  1781. [2011-12-27 21:19:28] <BUTTZ> Whatever, the repair won't break us, we'll make sure we get an account number we can do the deposit to after the museum job
  1782. [2011-12-27 21:20:11] <subtle_wit> we arent really able to properly represent Ito's dojo, Ark
  1783. [2011-12-27 21:20:18] <subtle_wit> we're a mongrel in our jukenjitsu, too
  1784. [2011-12-27 21:20:29] <Arkeus> subtle_wit: so far, yes
  1785. [2011-12-27 21:20:47] <Arkeus> I am annoyed at that, considering we clocked over 110 hrs in it
  1786. [2011-12-27 21:21:02] <A_Greedy_Squid> I'm sure that Ito would choose Camella over us to represent his dojo
  1787. [2011-12-27 21:21:04] <Arkeus> At least it taught us thrusting
  1788. [2011-12-27 21:21:11] <subtle_wit> do you see us learning enough of Ito's style to be able to fight entirely in his style without resorting to our other tricks? I dont
  1789. [2011-12-27 21:21:17] <Arkeus> And now we have maybe a bonus on thrusting because AWESOME BIRD
  1790. [2011-12-27 21:21:29] <A_Greedy_Squid> AWESOME VIKING BIRD
  1791. [2011-12-27 21:21:39] <Arkeus> subtle_wit: we could represent his dojo in supernatural fights
  1792. [2011-12-27 21:21:44] <Arkeus> like, the arenas underground
  1793. [2011-12-27 21:21:49] <Arkeus> not the style- the dojo
  1794. [2011-12-27 21:21:55] <subtle_wit> "Secret technique (Ougi): Hummingbird thrust!"
  1795. [2011-12-27 21:21:56] <PriceisMagic> Arkeus: When did I say to lie?
  1796. [2011-12-27 21:22:16] <Arkeus> Dammit, want tales of Graces
  1797. [2011-12-27 21:22:20] <subtle_wit> traditionally, when one is representing a dojo, one must use that style exclusively
  1798. [2011-12-27 21:22:24] <Arkeus> Or the translation to ToV ps3
  1799. [2011-12-27 21:22:37] <Arkeus> Ito also taught us reinforcement
  1800. [2011-12-27 21:22:41] <Arkeus> that could be what we use
  1801. [2011-12-27 21:23:19] <BUTTZ> Ito also taught us to ground out the never never strikes
  1802. [2011-12-27 21:23:27] <A_Greedy_Squid> No
  1803. [2011-12-27 21:23:30] <Arkeus> And thrusting
  1804. [2011-12-27 21:23:35] <A_Greedy_Squid> He taught us to direct our energy to the ground
  1805. [2011-12-27 21:23:41] <BUTTZ> Yeah
  1806. [2011-12-27 21:23:45] <TheBeardiestBob> You COULD bullshit your Hummingbird-assisted internal tricks (which an assault Spirit animal is NOT supposed to be able to do, only sensor and defensive should be able to) into being legitimate 'hidden techniques' and until they get outed ONLY used them after prefacing their use with 'OUGI: HUMMINGBIRD -'
  1807. [2011-12-27 21:23:47] <TheBeardiestBob> and some attack word
  1808. [2011-12-27 21:23:58] <PriceisMagic> He taught us to redirect the energy
  1809. [2011-12-27 21:24:00] <Arkeus> I still want to tell Camella ourspirit animal gives use super thrusting+~power
  1810. [2011-12-27 21:24:07] <A_Greedy_Squid> Mainly because during the strike, he saw all our gates suddenly open, and didn't want to explode by being near us
  1811. [2011-12-27 21:24:24] <Arkeus> lol TheBeardiestBob
  1812. [2011-12-27 21:24:26] <TheBeardiestBob> The momentum shifting plus the body acceleration would actually be a decent cover for legitimate technique
  1813. [2011-12-27 21:24:34] <BUTTZ> Wait Bob, you're saying we got the most bullshit of cheaty spirit animals?
  1814. [2011-12-27 21:24:38] <Arkeus> Does that mean we won't have speed boost with our hummingbird because it's ASSAULT?
  1815. [2011-12-27 21:24:39] <BUTTZ> Hell yeah
  1816. [2011-12-27 21:24:41] <TheBeardiestBob> especially since you wouldn't be using them outside of these 'hidden techniques'
  1817. [2011-12-27 21:24:45] <Arkeus> or is it so special we will?
  1818. [2011-12-27 21:24:48] <TheBeardiestBob> That's the thing
  1819. [2011-12-27 21:24:55] <TheBeardiestBob> Hummingbirds are normally Sensor
  1820. [2011-12-27 21:25:37] <BUTTZ> Arkeus you're right, we need to keep the hummingbird alive as long as possible
  1821. [2011-12-27 21:25:37] <TheBeardiestBob> but defensively inclined, so their sensory tricks are usually based around evasion/mobility, rather than threat detection and the like.
  1822. [2011-12-27 21:25:39] <BUTTZ> He's just too awesome
  1823. [2011-12-27 21:26:02] <A_Greedy_Squid> Let's get that bird some charms
  1824. [2011-12-27 21:26:04] <TheBeardiestBob> However, your Hummingbird is a Sensor type that, through his own life, reclassified himself as an Assault type
  1825. [2011-12-27 21:26:05] <A_Greedy_Squid> Tiny charms
  1826. [2011-12-27 21:26:06] <A_Greedy_Squid> BLING
  1827. [2011-12-27 21:26:37] <subtle_wit> plus, keeping him alive longer may mean more magical saturation, which could have benefits
  1828. [2011-12-27 21:26:43] <BUTTZ> So even a savvy enemy isn't going to expect what the hummingbird brings to the table
  1829. [2011-12-27 21:27:02] -->| ManOfTroy (~ManOfTroy@Rizon-8707781B.uninets.net) has joined #golemquest
  1830. [2011-12-27 21:27:05] <A_Greedy_Squid> best bird ever
  1831. [2011-12-27 21:27:09] <Arkeus> BUTTZ: bob did say our hummingbird was bulshit OOC for spirit animals users
  1832. [2011-12-27 21:27:11] <TheBeardiestBob> Assault type's greatest strength is the fact they are assault, and get passive, considerable bonuses to spiritual durability, and can directly spiritually agress things. So he retained the 'special skills' of a Sensor/Defensive type (in his case Sensor, defensive build) but respecced to a better type.
  1833. [2011-12-27 21:27:16] <subtle_wit> An enemy wont expect an Assault hummingbird- until we pump him up to the size of an eagle and he drills a hole through their skull
  1834. [2011-12-27 21:27:27] <Arkeus> TheBeardiestBob: ahahahahahah
  1835. [2011-12-27 21:27:43] <BUTTZ> The hummingbird really was the best thing in that auction
  1836. [2011-12-27 21:27:52] <Arkeus> i think the Stag was awesome too
  1837. [2011-12-27 21:27:52] <BUTTZ> The lurk sounded hilarious though
  1838. [2011-12-27 21:28:02] <Arkeus> TheBeardiestBob: could you give us much more info on the stag now?
  1839. [2011-12-27 21:28:08] <subtle_wit> the more I think of it, the funnier it would be to actually play Sancho to the bird's Don Quixote
  1840. [2011-12-27 21:28:31] <TheBeardiestBob> In addition to this, while it's skillset is mobility based, as appropriate for the animal it is, beyond having the 'wrong' Spirit Animal class, instead of having precision, speed of use or flexibility be it's strongest spiritual point, it's Staying power-endurance that is it's forte.
  1841. [2011-12-27 21:28:55] <subtle_wit> We carry him around, we buy him Redbulls, we do the boring talky bits so Hummingbird wont have to
  1842. [2011-12-27 21:28:59] <TheBeardiestBob> So, through it's own quirks, it is fairly close to actually being the impossible-a rounded spirit animal
  1843. [2011-12-27 21:29:25] <Arkeus> So it actually keeps the normal bonuses, but adds other stuff? cool.
  1844. [2011-12-27 21:29:32] <BUTTZ> And the funniest thing is he's still alive.
  1845. [2011-12-27 21:29:35] <A_Greedy_Squid> Redbull-DRINK OF THE WARRIORS
  1846. [2011-12-27 21:29:37] <Arkeus> I expect this bird turning mythic would be... mythic
  1847. [2011-12-27 21:29:38] <BUTTZ> Man, BC is going to be so jealous
  1848. [2011-12-27 21:29:48] <TheBeardiestBob> BC will lust after your bird
  1849. [2011-12-27 21:29:51] <TheBeardiestBob> of that, I have no doubt
  1850. [2011-12-27 21:29:58] <TheBeardiestBob> while the players can avoid greed in some fields
  1851. [2011-12-27 21:29:59] <Waryobserver> Lust
  1852. [2011-12-27 21:29:59] <ferdinand> Everyone lusts after all our things
  1853. [2011-12-27 21:30:02] <A_Greedy_Squid> Feel the shame, BC
  1854. [2011-12-27 21:30:03] <TheBeardiestBob> spirit animals is not one of them
  1855. [2011-12-27 21:30:04] <A_Greedy_Squid> Feel the shame
  1856. [2011-12-27 21:30:05] <Waryobserver> Is that the right wording bob?
  1857. [2011-12-27 21:30:06] <ferdinand> Armas has the sexiest things
  1858. [2011-12-27 21:30:07] <Arkeus> lol
  1859. [2011-12-27 21:30:09] <subtle_wit> And we lust after everything else
  1860. [2011-12-27 21:30:11] <subtle_wit> so it balances
  1861. [2011-12-27 21:30:13] <Captain-Lightning> ?gfh
  1862. [2011-12-27 21:30:13] <Classhole> http://tgchan.org/kusaba/quest/res/360354+50.html
  1863. [2011-12-27 21:30:36] <subtle_wit> also, it was interesting that WE got a jolt when the hummingbird drank that redbull
  1864. [2011-12-27 21:30:55] <subtle_wit> definitely connected in some way we dont really understand
  1865. [2011-12-27 21:31:07] <A_Greedy_Squid> Well then...that's it
  1866. [2011-12-27 21:31:28] <Arkeus> [26-12-2011 | 03:15:36] <TheBeardiestBob> 4Armas Trolling Side Quest: Bind as Spirit Animal, then ascend to Mythic status the hummingbird before BC's return to completely devalue his isolation training.
  1867. [2011-12-27 21:31:30] <A_Greedy_Squid> Fighting against a particularly strong foe? DRINK SOME REDBULL-Power up
  1868. [2011-12-27 21:31:31] <Arkeus> i so w<ant to do this
  1869. [2011-12-27 21:31:58] <BUTTZ> I thought we were going to do that anyway
  1870. [2011-12-27 21:32:12] <BUTTZ> I guess the compressed timeframe is what turns it into a challenge
  1871. [2011-12-27 21:32:16] <A_Greedy_Squid> But...it takes us all our slots :<
  1872. [2011-12-27 21:32:17] <PriceisMagic> whens he getting back?
  1873. [2011-12-27 21:32:19] <A_Greedy_Squid> up*
  1874. [2011-12-27 21:32:29] <ferdinand> Squid
  1875. [2011-12-27 21:32:36] <ferdinand> Would you prefer to have one GIANT diamond
  1876. [2011-12-27 21:32:44] <ferdinand> Or a bunch of smaller ones?
  1877. [2011-12-27 21:32:52] <PriceisMagic> Depends
  1878. [2011-12-27 21:32:53] <Waryobserver> Summer query: If we drink a red bull, and get a boon from Whaitiri do we get wings?
  1879. [2011-12-27 21:33:12] <Arkeus> BUTTZ: think about VikingBird drinking Weasel Wine
  1880. [2011-12-27 21:33:13] <TheBeardiestBob> One of the possible ways the Hummingbird's Mythic trait would manifest as a special skill-and note, again, I said this is only an option, not definitive:
  1881. [2011-12-27 21:33:15] <Arkeus> YAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAY
  1882. [2011-12-27 21:33:29] <BUTTZ> Arkeus: He'll put your eye out!
  1883. [2011-12-27 21:33:46] <A_Greedy_Squid> Weasel Wine-The Drink of True Warriors
  1884. [2011-12-27 21:34:10] <Arkeus> If anyone wants palindrome, current post is 375571 <__________<
  1885. [2011-12-27 21:34:11] <Captain-Lightning> Goddamn
  1886. [2011-12-27 21:34:18] <ManOfSleepOhMyGodHowLongHasItB> Nah, Humming-bro shouldn't have weasel wine.
  1887. [2011-12-27 21:34:24] <TheBeardiestBob> Special skill: 'The Bigger They Are....' The larger a foe is than Armas, the more of it's magical energy will be automatically switched into the ownership of the Mythic Spirit Animal being employed. Against a foe twice his size, a tenth of their power is shifted. Four times his size, a fifth.
  1888. [2011-12-27 21:34:25] <Captain-Lightning> Bob I can't get over the fact that I enjoy GfH more than most of my favorite fantasy novelists
  1889. [2011-12-27 21:34:27] <TheBeardiestBob> NOTE
  1890. [2011-12-27 21:34:31] <Captain-Lightning> Can we have sex
  1891. [2011-12-27 21:34:31] <ManOfSleepOhMyGodHowLongHasItB> He should have Bawls or Jolt or some MEGA CAFFINE.
  1892. [2011-12-27 21:34:32] <Captain-Lightning> And make babies
  1893. [2011-12-27 21:34:40] <Captain-Lightning> Gaybies
  1894. [2011-12-27 21:34:40] <A_Greedy_Squid> yes we can
  1895. [2011-12-27 21:34:49] <TheBeardiestBob> Not perfectly scaled to all foes, as it's based off the assumption the foe's magical energy is equivalent to Armas' in this example
  1896. [2011-12-27 21:34:58] <Arkeus> <Captain-Lightning> Bob I can't get over the fact that I enjoy GfH more than most of my favorite fantasy novelists <= ahahah
  1897. [2011-12-27 21:35:01] <Arkeus> so true
  1898. [2011-12-27 21:35:10] <BUTTZ> Holy cow, that's a skill designed to make us want to go kill dragons
  1899. [2011-12-27 21:35:15] <Arkeus> That's .. a pretty excellent power
  1900. [2011-12-27 21:35:18] <TheBeardiestBob> And Giants
  1901. [2011-12-27 21:35:20] <Arkeus> yeah
  1902. [2011-12-27 21:35:22] <TheBeardiestBob> and sea monsters
  1903. [2011-12-27 21:35:23] <Arkeus> or Troll
  1904. [2011-12-27 21:35:26] <ManOfSleepOhMyGodHowLongHasItB> Hell, I adored Golem Quest SO MUCH and GfH is awesomefun, even if I don't post too much.
  1905. [2011-12-27 21:35:28] <BUTTZ> And fat men
  1906. [2011-12-27 21:35:35] <BUTTZ> GLEB
  1907. [2011-12-27 21:35:38] <ManOfSleepOhMyGodHowLongHasItB> So...if we get 'The Bigger They Are' should we shrink ourselves?
  1908. [2011-12-27 21:35:46] <Arkeus> lol
  1909. [2011-12-27 21:35:47] <A_Greedy_Squid> No, we shrink our soul
  1910. [2011-12-27 21:35:49] <Arkeus> we os could
  1911. [2011-12-27 21:35:54] <Arkeus> fleshcrafting
  1912. [2011-12-27 21:36:22] <A_Greedy_Squid> I love this bird
  1913. [2011-12-27 21:37:31] <Arkeus> Poor BC
  1914. [2011-12-27 21:37:39] <ManOfSleepOhMyGodHowLongHasItB> We are megatroll
  1915. [2011-12-27 21:37:52] <Arkeus> He also doesn't have a predator spirit animal ;-)
  1916. [2011-12-27 21:38:02] <Arkeus> I think he may try to torture/kill us to get it
  1917. [2011-12-27 21:38:25] <TheBeardiestBob> He actually might, once he learns you can die and come back, if he doesn't also learn the bird's soulbound, rather than just flesh bound
  1918. [2011-12-27 21:38:29] <TheBeardiestBob> not even joking here
  1919. [2011-12-27 21:38:35] <TheBeardiestBob> and he'd be SO SAD when it didn't work
  1920. [2011-12-27 21:38:36] <Arkeus> Ahahah
  1921. [2011-12-27 21:38:39] <Arkeus> :D
  1922. [2011-12-27 21:38:44] <Arkeus> We might let him try
  1923. [2011-12-27 21:38:47] <Arkeus> just for trolling
  1924. [2011-12-27 21:38:49] <ferdinand> Armas would let him try
  1925. [2011-12-27 21:38:57] <BUTTZ> And then we'd be all "You jackass! Look at the mess you made"
  1926. [2011-12-27 21:39:00] <Arkeus> 'oops, try again'
  1927. [2011-12-27 21:39:01] <ferdinand> Then troll him terribly
  1928. [2011-12-27 21:39:10] <BUTTZ> And then kill him
  1929. [2011-12-27 21:39:12] <BUTTZ> Because seriously
  1930. [2011-12-27 21:39:14] <ferdinand> Oh you want my bird? Cue Hummingbro pecking at his soul
  1931. [2011-12-27 21:39:16] <ferdinand> Forever
  1932. [2011-12-27 21:39:20] <Ironybot> I suspect that the hummingbird itself would HATE him if he tried to steal it.
  1933. [2011-12-27 21:39:36] <Ironybot> Because it would perceive that as an attack on it, and its free will.
  1934. [2011-12-27 21:39:57] <Arkeus> We are dealing fiarly well wit the bird so far
  1935. [2011-12-27 21:40:24] <ManOfSleepOhMyGodHowLongHasItB> DEATH TROLLING!
  1936. [2011-12-27 21:40:27] <ManOfSleepOhMyGodHowLongHasItB> WE MUST DO THIS!
  1937. [2011-12-27 21:40:49] <Arkeus> so
  1938. [2011-12-27 21:41:08] <Arkeus> TheBeardiestBob: please tell us more about the White Stag. I want to know what trolling we missed.
  1939. [2011-12-27 21:41:11] <ferdinand> But yeah
  1940. [2011-12-27 21:41:13] <ferdinand> Seriously
  1941. [2011-12-27 21:41:20] <ferdinand> If Big tried that Armas would have to seriously hurt him
  1942. [2011-12-27 21:41:54] <Arkeus> Methink Big's defense boost wiht mythic bear is quite potent, though
  1943. [2011-12-27 21:41:56] <ferdinand> Taking something of Armas, STEALING from him, is one of his specific triggers
  1944. [2011-12-27 21:41:59] <TheBeardiestBob> The White Stag's special trick numero uno, as mentioned, was skewing space for your steps.
  1945. [2011-12-27 21:42:04] <Arkeus> too bad we have ways to deal with that
  1946. [2011-12-27 21:42:09] <TheBeardiestBob> What wasn't mentioned was the secondary ability it would have granted
  1947. [2011-12-27 21:42:32] <TheBeardiestBob> that being the ability to teleport between recently touched trees of the same species.
  1948. [2011-12-27 21:42:39] <TheBeardiestBob> Yes, it had limitations out the wazoo
  1949. [2011-12-27 21:42:41] <BUTTZ> That's pretty cool
  1950. [2011-12-27 21:42:44] <TheBeardiestBob> but in general, if you're in the woods
  1951. [2011-12-27 21:42:51] <TheBeardiestBob> it is handy as all fucking hell
  1952. [2011-12-27 21:42:56] <TheBeardiestBob> and gets more useful the longer you run
  1953. [2011-12-27 21:43:03] <TheBeardiestBob> up until you've been running for ten minutes
  1954. [2011-12-27 21:43:12] <TheBeardiestBob> what with the time frame for a touch to 'fade' being ten minutes
  1955. [2011-12-27 21:43:32] <Arkeus> does the tree needs to be alive?
  1956. [2011-12-27 21:44:06] <Arkeus> how does the skweing space for our steps work, exactly?
  1957. [2011-12-27 21:44:35] <TheBeardiestBob> It works by [ERROR: IMPROPER SPIRIT ANIMAL DETECTED FOR EXPLANATION. RETURN TO ROOT]
  1958. [2011-12-27 21:44:40] * TheBeardiestBob reboots
  1959. [2011-12-27 21:44:45] <TheBeardiestBob> ...Was I saying something?
  1960. [2011-12-27 21:44:59] <Arkeus> I think someone trolled you
  1961. [2011-12-27 21:45:14] <TheBeardiestBob> Probably.
  1962. [2011-12-27 21:45:20] <Shifter20> Damn it Bob, I was this close to getting laser rifles.
  1963. [2011-12-27 21:45:32] <TheBeardiestBob> Hm?
  1964. [2011-12-27 21:45:57] <Arkeus> TheBeardiestBob: any chance for a double update?
  1965. [2011-12-27 21:46:20] =-= ferdinand is now known as Grail
  1966. [2011-12-27 21:46:24] <BUTTZ> Buying a secure computer is an interesting idea, but I'd rather deal with a computer company that makes them directly than go through one of the crime syndicates we're friendly with
  1967. [2011-12-27 21:46:25] <TheBeardiestBob> I'm looking-it seems possible.
  1968. [2011-12-27 21:46:31] <Arkeus> cool
  1969. [2011-12-27 21:46:34] <TheBeardiestBob> Going to make a go at it if no one bugs me
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  1974. [2011-12-27 21:49:20] <subtle_wit> what would a secure computer entail, anyway? a private server or something?
  1975. [2011-12-27 21:50:15] <ManOfSleepOhMyGodHowLongHasItB> Geting Andrei a beautiful beautiful server cluster that I can use to ping flood whole companies with?
  1976. [2011-12-27 21:50:47] <ManOfSleepOhMyGodHowLongHasItB> How soon is the Sony Dun Fucked Up in GfH, anyway?
  1977. [2011-12-27 21:51:24] <Waryobserver> The what?
  1978. [2011-12-27 21:51:59] <ManOfSleepOhMyGodHowLongHasItB> http://www.computerandvideogames.com/299816/news/-soe-confirms-246-million-accounts-compromised/
  1979. [2011-12-27 21:52:02] <BUTTZ> Their big security breach
  1980. [2011-12-27 21:52:05] <ManOfSleepOhMyGodHowLongHasItB> Sony. When they dun fucked up
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  1983. [2011-12-27 21:54:06] <subtle_wit> WoW has some pretty good commercials
  1984. [2011-12-27 21:54:33] <subtle_wit> There's one with chuck norris now, which is like some kinda inception shit
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  1986. [2011-12-27 21:56:19] <ManOfSleepOhMyGodHowLongHasItB> subtle_slowbro is right!
  1987. [2011-12-27 21:56:36] <PriceisMagic> Will Kim Jong Il die?
  1988. [2011-12-27 21:57:19] <MrTT> BC only has himself to blame for not having an awesome spirit animal like hummingbro
  1989. [2011-12-27 21:57:27] <MrTT> He tossed a way an uber sword of uberness
  1990. [2011-12-27 21:57:39] <MrTT> He could have sold it for an uber spirit animal
  1991. [2011-12-27 21:57:43] <PriceisMagic> Because picking that shit up is in no way dangerous
  1992. [2011-12-27 21:57:52] <MrTT> We kept and sold mammon's device
  1993. [2011-12-27 21:58:07] <PriceisMagic> Its like finding a nuke and dragging it home
  1994. [2011-12-27 21:58:08] <MrTT> actually this is totally how we should present it
  1995. [2011-12-27 21:58:20] <MrTT> how dangerous mammon device was, how much attention you got from mammon
  1996. [2011-12-27 21:58:25] <Arkeus> PriceisMagic: not if he sent ti to be sold
  1997. [2011-12-27 21:58:26] <BUTTZ> Price isn't that what we did?
  1998. [2011-12-27 21:58:28] <Arkeus> Not dangerous then
  1999. [2011-12-27 21:58:36] <BUTTZ> "Oh hey look at this cool gun"
  2000. [2011-12-27 21:58:37] <PriceisMagic> BC isnt us BUTTZ
  2001. [2011-12-27 21:58:44] <MrTT> spurning him, him actually inviting you to devil moot... all of that just to sell it to secure hummingbro
  2002. [2011-12-27 21:58:50] <BUTTZ> "Woah, it's Mammon's? Doesn't that make it like a fucking nuke?"
  2003. [2011-12-27 21:59:04] <BUTTZ> "Well I guess I'll sell it!"
  2004. [2011-12-27 21:59:06] <PriceisMagic> If he skipped it from some one he killed then yes that would be stupid
  2005. [2011-12-27 21:59:16] <MrTT> i mean, bc tossed away his sword of awesomness because he was worried someone will come looking for it
  2006. [2011-12-27 21:59:19] <PriceisMagic> But it was just lying there in the NN
  2007. [2011-12-27 21:59:49] <Arkeus> Having a Sword Artifact is damn sucidal
  2008. [2011-12-27 21:59:53] <MrTT> actually it would work be if we could weasel our way to getting him to tell us about the sword first
  2009. [2011-12-27 21:59:54] <Arkeus> However, selling it isn't
  2010. [2011-12-27 22:00:08] <Arkeus> OTOH, people should know about it being dam nsuicidal, and might not wish to buy it
  2011. [2011-12-27 22:00:25] <MrTT> we then go "and you just left it? I could have helped you sell it for some really sweet stuff... for example, I once came across this gun... <insert story>"
  2012. [2011-12-27 22:00:51] <MrTT> its only "suicidal" in the aspect that powerful beings will kill you to steal it
  2013. [2011-12-27 22:00:52] <subtle_wit> If it had been a giant gun, BC would have run off with it
  2014. [2011-12-27 22:01:01] <MrTT> recall the dragon we saw wielding an artifact weapon?
  2015. [2011-12-27 22:01:03] <PriceisMagic> Thats true
  2016. [2011-12-27 22:01:05] <ManOfSleepOhMyGodHowLongHasItB> ...oh...-fuck-.
  2017. [2011-12-27 22:01:08] <Arkeus> MrTT: the wearer of Excalibur, yes
  2018. [2011-12-27 22:01:14] <PriceisMagic> If it was a gun I would probably pick it up
  2019. [2011-12-27 22:01:19] <ManOfSleepOhMyGodHowLongHasItB> Kim Il's death vaguely scares me in GfH.
  2020. [2011-12-27 22:01:21] <PriceisMagic> Not so much a sword
  2021. [2011-12-27 22:01:26] <MrTT> I imagine a lot of lower tier dragons out there are trying to acquire artifacts
  2022. [2011-12-27 22:01:26] <ManOfSleepOhMyGodHowLongHasItB> Because he's actively worshiped, isn't he?
  2023. [2011-12-27 22:01:33] <PriceisMagic> ...
  2024. [2011-12-27 22:01:34] <PriceisMagic> FUCK
  2025. [2011-12-27 22:01:47] <ManOfSleepOhMyGodHowLongHasItB> Compelled worship, yes, but still worship.
  2026. [2011-12-27 22:01:48] <Arkeus> we have to eat his soul?
  2027. [2011-12-27 22:01:49] <MrTT> you need quite a bit of worship to ascend anywhere
  2028. [2011-12-27 22:01:56] <ManOfSleepOhMyGodHowLongHasItB> He has a nation.
  2029. [2011-12-27 22:02:04] <ManOfSleepOhMyGodHowLongHasItB> And the rest of the world laughing at him.
  2030. [2011-12-27 22:02:05] <MrTT> if he has become a god, then a very weak one
  2031. [2011-12-27 22:02:05] <PriceisMagic> So was his Dad (right?)
  2032. [2011-12-27 22:02:06] <BUTTZ> Kim Jong Il and Kim Sung Il, yeah
  2033. [2011-12-27 22:02:07] <Arkeus> Gow-Emperor
  2034. [2011-12-27 22:02:10] <BUTTZ> a couple of little gods
  2035. [2011-12-27 22:02:18] <ManOfSleepOhMyGodHowLongHasItB> WE HAVE FOUND OUR WAY INTO TRICKSTER GODHOOD!
  2036. [2011-12-27 22:02:35] <MrTT> also having faith centered on you does not automatically make you ascend
  2037. [2011-12-27 22:02:35] <BUTTZ> Troy why do you think I keep bringing up ways to get a country?
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  2039. [2011-12-27 22:02:41] <BUTTZ> Hellooooo?
  2040. [2011-12-27 22:02:53] <MrTT> unless you have a divine bloodline you do not naturally possess the ability to benefit from such faith
  2041. [2011-12-27 22:03:01] <MrTT> this is why not every holliwood star is a god
  2042. [2011-12-27 22:03:04] <BUTTZ> Well just our luck, we've got one!
  2043. [2011-12-27 22:03:18] <BUTTZ> Now we just need a country
  2044. [2011-12-27 22:03:27] <Arkeus> pff
  2045. [2011-12-27 22:03:29] <ManOfSleepOhMyGodHowLongHasItB> Actually, I'm quite sure that Kim does have devine blood.
  2046. [2011-12-27 22:03:32] <MrTT> there power is there for him to grasp and use for ascention... but he would need knowledge and prereq power to access it
  2047. [2011-12-27 22:03:33] <Arkeus> I don't think it's a good idea AT ALL
  2048. [2011-12-27 22:03:41] <MrTT> I agree with ark
  2049. [2011-12-27 22:03:42] <ManOfSleepOhMyGodHowLongHasItB> And TT, movie stars aren't actively worshiped.
  2050. [2011-12-27 22:03:45] <ManOfSleepOhMyGodHowLongHasItB> Kim is.
  2051. [2011-12-27 22:03:48] <Arkeus> I am pretty sure a lot of people will try to off us if we do that
  2052. [2011-12-27 22:03:57] <MrTT> movie stars ARE actively worshipped
  2053. [2011-12-27 22:04:09] <ManOfSleepOhMyGodHowLongHasItB> No they aren't.
  2054. [2011-12-27 22:04:11] <Arkeus> and going to rest a couple of minutes
  2055. [2011-12-27 22:04:14] <MrTT> not just them
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  2057. [2011-12-27 22:04:27] <ManOfSleepOhMyGodHowLongHasItB> You don't see shrines to actors. You do see shrines to Kim
  2058. [2011-12-27 22:04:59] <subtle_wit> well... creepy shrines to actors
  2059. [2011-12-27 22:05:02] <MrTT> so this one time i was having a political argument with some deluded obama worshipper... and he actually told me "Obama is here to take us from darkness into the light!"
  2060. [2011-12-27 22:05:31] <subtle_wit> http://id34111.securedata.net/areaology/area.html
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  2062. [2011-12-27 22:05:50] <MrTT> actually you DO see shrines for actors
  2063. [2011-12-27 22:06:07] <MrTT> And those sprung from true belief rather then the government saying you have to do so or be punished
  2064. [2011-12-27 22:06:11] <Waryobserver> I wonder if Theodore Roosevelt is a god.
  2065. [2011-12-27 22:06:12] <ManOfSleepOhMyGodHowLongHasItB> TT, that's an analogy. Unless you can show me that people pubically, actively whorship, I'm afraid I'm gonna have to go 'no, Kim is the one and only godhead'
  2066. [2011-12-27 22:06:21] <ManOfSleepOhMyGodHowLongHasItB> Theodore wasn't a god.
  2067. [2011-12-27 22:06:29] <ManOfSleepOhMyGodHowLongHasItB> He was a human.
  2068. [2011-12-27 22:06:39] <MrTT> ohoh, Actually, what if in GFH kim is not insane... but is aware of magic and has government mandated worship of himself exactly BECAUSE he was trying to ascend?
  2069. [2011-12-27 22:06:44] <PriceisMagic> So was Niko Tesla
  2070. [2011-12-27 22:06:51] <PriceisMagic> Yet hes now a god
  2071. [2011-12-27 22:07:00] <ManOfSleepOhMyGodHowLongHasItB> Of course, he strangled gods with his bare hands, and kicked dragons in the teeth, but hey, what human can't do that.
  2072. [2011-12-27 22:07:35] <PriceisMagic> ...The Indian man Is Theodore Roosevelt reborn?
  2073. [2011-12-27 22:07:39] <PriceisMagic> I mean it makes sense
  2074. [2011-12-27 22:08:10] <Waryobserver> Theodore could have been vacation time
  2075. [2011-12-27 22:08:15] <MrTT> grade A trolling here http://tgchan.org/kusaba/quest/res/374519.html#375505
  2076. [2011-12-27 22:08:16] <Waryobserver> He is a master fleshcrafter
  2077. [2011-12-27 22:19:30] |<-- A_Mad_Oyster has left irc.rizon.net (Quit: http://www.mibbit.com ajax IRC Client)
  2078. [2011-12-27 22:26:23] <TMIoverload> Bob said Tom Cruise has the powers he claims those at his rank/whatever of Scientology are supposed to have
  2079. [2011-12-27 22:27:02] <PriceisMagic> ...wat
  2080. [2011-12-27 22:27:39] <TMIoverload> Said that that's the way magic works in GfH, and as much as he didn't like it, he wasn't going to give Scientology different treatment
  2081. [2011-12-27 22:28:00] <TMIoverload> Xenu totally exists
  2082. [2011-12-27 22:28:07] <subtle_wit> that Facebook History of the World has some great stuff
  2083. [2011-12-27 22:28:23] <subtle_wit> also, Charlie Sheen's goddesses are actual, real goddesses
  2084. [2011-12-27 22:28:27] <subtle_wit> triple Contractor
  2085. [2011-12-27 22:28:40] <BUTTZ> I posted
  2086. [2011-12-27 22:29:04] <BUTTZ> I want to lend Camella the charm now, as part of the apology
  2087. [2011-12-27 22:29:18] <PriceisMagic> WHY would you post while Bob is typing an update?
  2088. [2011-12-27 22:29:25] <BUTTZ> Because I am a dick
  2089. [2011-12-27 22:29:34] <subtle_wit> joseph Stalin: you underestimate how many people there are here, and how little I care about their lives.
  2090. [2011-12-27 22:29:35] <PriceisMagic> ಠ_ಠ
  2091. [2011-12-27 22:29:39] <TMIoverload> I forgot about Charlie Sheen's goddesses. Bob said this universe's Camella is like an italian Charlie Sheen
  2092. [2011-12-27 22:29:49] <subtle_wit> Actually, I believe the question is, why is our apology worth 5million dollars
  2093. [2011-12-27 22:29:56] <BUTTZ> Nah, the real reason is because it's when I had time and inclination to post
  2094. [2011-12-27 22:30:15] <BUTTZ> subtle_wit we still want her to help us run the company don't we?
  2095. [2011-12-27 22:30:21] <TMIoverload> I believe the real question is why we think Camella needs a charm to help her survive
  2096. [2011-12-27 22:30:30] <BUTTZ> Because she lost a leg
  2097. [2011-12-27 22:30:47] <BUTTZ> if she'd had that charm, she would have just been slowed down for a moment instead of a month
  2098. [2011-12-27 22:31:01] |<-- Shifter20 has left irc.rizon.net (Ping timeout: 240 seconds)
  2099. [2011-12-27 22:31:35] <subtle_wit> That is interesting. A week of slogging through the nastiest creatures this side of the Bosphorus on no backup or sleep < Blackbeard
  2100. [2011-12-27 22:32:04] <TMIoverload> I think Camella might forgive us if we just told her how we got that charm
  2101. [2011-12-27 22:32:11] <BUTTZ> Anyway, by giving her the charm now, we back up what I said about caring about her, we also remind her that we're up to providing material support, and that we do respect her.
  2102. [2011-12-27 22:32:31] <Ironybot> Loaning Camella the charm for free, not using it for any kind of leverage even though it's so fucking expensive... it's a bold gamble on her personality.
  2103. [2011-12-27 22:32:32] <BUTTZ> All pre-requisites for her to want to help Armas run a company
  2104. [2011-12-27 22:32:40] <BUTTZ> She'll come through
  2105. [2011-12-27 22:32:50] <subtle_wit> and yes Buttz, we want her to help run the company. I would accept lending her the charm in exchange for joining the company. Lending it to her as an apology for a somewhat cruel but all in all minor bit of trolling? Unnecessary.
  2106. [2011-12-27 22:33:01] <BUTTZ> It's just part of the apology
  2107. [2011-12-27 22:33:21] <BUTTZ> We want her to feel comfortable with the idea of being in a full partnership with Armas
  2108. [2011-12-27 22:33:58] <subtle_wit> In all honesty, I'd rather her be the junior partner here. Can she kick our ass? Quite likely. Does she have our contacts and resources? No.
  2109. [2011-12-27 22:34:00] <TMIoverload> Gotta agree with Buttz here actually.
  2110. [2011-12-27 22:34:41] <BUTTZ> Subtle_wit let me ask you this: Do YOU think Armas can run a company without help?
  2111. [2011-12-27 22:34:45] <BUTTZ> Because I don't think he can
  2112. [2011-12-27 22:34:47] <TMIoverload> When we make calculated moves, they are very clearly calculated. That is a horrible thing if you're trying to retain and build relationships with your allies
  2113. [2011-12-27 22:35:01] <TMIoverload> Loaning the charm, rather then flat giving it out, is one of those very clear calculated moves
  2114. [2011-12-27 22:35:08] <BUTTZ> He's done a fine job not making an utter hash of things, but he will need help at the top. Help he trusts completely.
  2115. [2011-12-27 22:36:05] <subtle_wit> fair point- we're still liable to go wandering off as the mood strikes us
  2116. [2011-12-27 22:36:11] <subtle_wit> we are a super-powered child, basically
  2117. [2011-12-27 22:36:15] <BUTTZ> Yep
  2118. [2011-12-27 22:36:29] <BUTTZ> Camella understands that and still sticks around with us
  2119. [2011-12-27 22:36:47] <subtle_wit> and yet, still better than 95% of wizards
  2120. [2011-12-27 22:37:09] <umbridge> I honestly don't think the charm is good.
  2121. [2011-12-27 22:37:23] <umbridge> Sure it has twelve slots and is rechargeable
  2122. [2011-12-27 22:37:25] <BUTTZ> It's GREAT if you can't heal on your own.
  2123. [2011-12-27 22:37:38] <umbridge> But the metal deflecting charm is so much better
  2124. [2011-12-27 22:37:58] <subtle_wit> not as good as I first thought, certainly, since a headshot will still instakill you, though I think there could be some fantastic synergy with certain charm boosting types
  2125. [2011-12-27 22:37:59] <umbridge> And it wouldn't be effected by the splintered intent trick
  2126. [2011-12-27 22:38:15] <subtle_wit> but considering Camella doesnt really bother with armor...
  2127. [2011-12-27 22:38:17] <BUTTZ> Sure it would
  2128. [2011-12-27 22:38:18] <umbridge> And the metal deflector is tailor made to prevent assassination
  2129. [2011-12-27 22:38:33] <umbridge> Snipers can just fuck off
  2130. [2011-12-27 22:38:35] <umbridge> And so can archers
  2131. [2011-12-27 22:38:46] <BUTTZ> Instead of a single non-lethal shotgun wound, you'd end up with several non-lethal wounds from shotgun pellets
  2132. [2011-12-27 22:38:49] <umbridge> Hell, it's even effective against some burst fire
  2133. [2011-12-27 22:38:51] <subtle_wit> well, ones that dont use poisoned wood tips
  2134. [2011-12-27 22:38:57] <Ironybot> Actually, what that charm really needs for synergy is some kind of charm which would downgrade any instakill into a kill over slightly-more-than-an-instant.
  2135. [2011-12-27 22:39:15] <BUTTZ> We'll look into that, we've only had it a day
  2136. [2011-12-27 22:39:16] <subtle_wit> true that
  2137. [2011-12-27 22:39:34] <subtle_wit> the svartelves could do it, I do not doubt. Of course, it would cost like a motherfucker
  2138. [2011-12-27 22:47:19] <PriceisMagic> So, Anyone else pissed at Mammon for fucking us over?
  2139. [2011-12-27 22:47:32] <PriceisMagic> I bet he did this just to piss us off
  2140. [2011-12-27 22:47:59] <subtle_wit> nnnnnno? I could see bad ends coming once we ate the devil
  2141. [2011-12-27 22:48:16] <PriceisMagic> We didnt HAVE to eat him
  2142. [2011-12-27 22:48:27] <subtle_wit> of course, we still owe SOMEBODY a soul
  2143. [2011-12-27 22:48:28] <ManOfSleepOhMyGodHowLongHasItB> Bob, and everyone else: http://www.rareandprestige.com/verify.html GfH this group must be hellafun to work for.
  2144. [2011-12-27 22:48:33] <subtle_wit> by the shitty Accords
  2145. [2011-12-27 22:49:20] <subtle_wit> almost as much fun as that one company that sponsored an orgy for its workers
  2146. [2011-12-27 22:49:22] <ManOfSleepOhMyGodHowLongHasItB> I love the Shitty Accords. They did my favorate album.
  2147. [2011-12-27 22:49:39] <ManOfSleepOhMyGodHowLongHasItB> ...Subtle, are you joking or not?
  2148. [2011-12-27 22:50:06] <subtle_wit> not joking, sadly. Also, "Devil Went Down to Istanbul" was my favorite track on that album
  2149. [2011-12-27 22:50:33] <subtle_wit> well, kinda sadly. mostly just with a half-sad, half-impressed face
  2150. [2011-12-27 22:51:02] <subtle_wit> they were, of course, german
  2151. [2011-12-27 22:51:03] <umbridge> Ate what devil?
  2152. [2011-12-27 22:51:11] <umbridge> Silja ate his hand
  2153. [2011-12-27 22:52:33] <subtle_wit> we wanted to feed the rest of him to whaitiri
  2154. [2011-12-27 22:52:38] <subtle_wit> or, a number of people did
  2155. [2011-12-27 22:52:54] <Ironybot> I am actually not that mad at Mammon. This is just what I'd have expected from him, in retrospect. He's a Prince of Greed and claimed us as his on some level, didn't he? Armas is a tiny fraction as greedy as Mammon is, and what would HE do if something he considered his was getting away?
  2156. [2011-12-27 22:53:02] <Captain-Lightning> fffffff
  2157. [2011-12-27 22:53:18] <Ironybot> We should have anticipated moves on Mammon's part to reclaim and secure Armas.
  2158. [2011-12-27 22:53:27] <subtle_wit> on the upside, we have been a very good little greedy boy
  2159. [2011-12-27 22:53:28] <PriceisMagic> 5 bucks says he will give us the Devil if we serve him
  2160. [2011-12-27 22:53:45] <subtle_wit> or other stuff. we did say if he stepped up to the plate and played ball we'd consider it
  2161. [2011-12-27 22:57:04] <MrTT> whoa there
  2162. [2011-12-27 22:57:15] <MrTT> what is that about giving camella a 5 million dollar charm?
  2163. [2011-12-27 22:57:24] <MrTT> is that the one we got off of blackbeard?
  2164. [2011-12-27 22:57:38] <BUTTZ> It's a loan, and it's in line with what we talked out earlier when we first got it
  2165. [2011-12-27 22:58:05] <MrTT> All we mentioned was getting her to sign on where the charm, company property, would then be in her reach
  2166. [2011-12-27 22:58:21] <MrTT> as in, she could use it
  2167. [2011-12-27 22:58:31] <MrTT> its ridiculously valuable
  2168. [2011-12-27 22:58:34] <BUTTZ> It takes three days to fully charge
  2169. [2011-12-27 22:58:53] <MrTT> at full charge it saves you from crippling injuries 12 times
  2170. [2011-12-27 22:59:09] <subtle_wit> Anyone who plans to receive 12 serious wounds in 3 days may need to step back and rethink their life
  2171. [2011-12-27 22:59:15] <subtle_wit> shit, Armas is totally that guy
  2172. [2011-12-27 22:59:15] <MrTT> yes
  2173. [2011-12-27 22:59:26] <subtle_wit> we receive 12 serious wounds before breakfast each morning
  2174. [2011-12-27 22:59:28] <BUTTZ> This way she'll have it ready for the Dooney fight too, if she wants in on that.
  2175. [2011-12-27 22:59:28] <MrTT> you only need to recharge it when it expads a charge healing you
  2176. [2011-12-27 22:59:49] <MrTT> well as long as we are not outright GIFTING her a 5 million dollar charm
  2177. [2011-12-27 23:00:13] <BUTTZ> Anyway the point is like I said: by lending it to her we're backing up what we've been saying
  2178. [2011-12-27 23:00:13] <subtle_wit> speaking of, I think mentioning that a wizard can get her home, and that Doony is the right hand fish of a wizard's sworn enemy will get her all OVER that
  2179. [2011-12-27 23:00:15] <MrTT> I was uneasy enough gifting 40k to the parents (not that I don't want to, its just premature as we are not as rich as we should be, yet)
  2180. [2011-12-27 23:00:27] <PriceisMagic> So, are we selling Lo Fang the Phoenix heart or what?
  2181. [2011-12-27 23:00:37] <MrTT> don't knopw
  2182. [2011-12-27 23:00:40] <Ironybot> Just out of curiosity, what do you consider "as rich as we should be"?
  2183. [2011-12-27 23:00:42] <MrTT> we haven't gotten a new one yet
  2184. [2011-12-27 23:00:42] <BUTTZ> As soon as we know he wants one, and we have one, I see no issue with it
  2185. [2011-12-27 23:00:43] <subtle_wit> that was pretty nuts. 40k to the parents, leaving us... 6k to play with, and some money tied up in banks and business accounts
  2186. [2011-12-27 23:01:08] <PriceisMagic> That should be 60K subtle_wit
  2187. [2011-12-27 23:01:16] <MrTT> As rich as we should be is when it is 1% of our total wealth or less
  2188. [2011-12-27 23:01:24] <Ironybot> We can draw on our business account for most of our expenses. As an off-the-books PMC, a huge amount of what we do is essentially in support of our business.
  2189. [2011-12-27 23:01:48] <subtle_wit> no, 50k is tied up with the bank
  2190. [2011-12-27 23:01:56] <MrTT> yes
  2191. [2011-12-27 23:02:16] <MrTT> the business stuff is business stuff, we will pay ourselves but its not all ours to spend on personal stuff
  2192. [2011-12-27 23:02:23] <MrTT> the personal account... well 50k is min balance
  2193. [2011-12-27 23:02:28] <MrTT> and we only have a little under 100k
  2194. [2011-12-27 23:02:39] <BUTTZ> We'll get more work in no time
  2195. [2011-12-27 23:02:41] <subtle_wit> we have 56k last I checked. Maybe more now?
  2196. [2011-12-27 23:02:42] <MrTT> a 1000 dollar gift would have been appropriate
  2197. [2011-12-27 23:03:14] <MrTT> when we have millions, then it is appropriate to send 10k gifts
  2198. [2011-12-27 23:03:19] <MrTT> not before
  2199. [2011-12-27 23:03:33] <PriceisMagic> 200K+ Is when I wouldhave sent the cash
  2200. [2011-12-27 23:03:37] <PriceisMagic> would have*
  2201. [2011-12-27 23:03:41] <Ironybot> The thing is, what is "personal stuff"? For a recent example, take consulting fees with Johan. Personal or business? An argument can be made for either- because our personal power, assets, and knowledge are essentially all corporate power, assets, and knowledge.
  2202. [2011-12-27 23:03:57] <Ironybot> Thus anything which increases them is a viable corporate expense.
  2203. [2011-12-27 23:04:18] <BUTTZ> Which reminds me, we ought to have the Russians make a wish list of gear
  2204. [2011-12-27 23:04:22] <subtle_wit> Johan: bullets? business. knowledge? Harder for me to justify as a business expense
  2205. [2011-12-27 23:04:36] <MrTT> sending our parents money is personal stuff ironybot
  2206. [2011-12-27 23:04:38] <BUTTZ> "Anything, up to orbital strikes. Keep in mind I'm going to fulfill the cheaper stuff first."
  2207. [2011-12-27 23:04:43] <PriceisMagic> BUTTZ: Not untill we get heaps of cash
  2208. [2011-12-27 23:04:51] <MrTT> knowledge counts as a business expense
  2209. [2011-12-27 23:04:58] <MrTT> business subsidize education
  2210. [2011-12-27 23:05:00] <PriceisMagic> Also: Arnt we getting them Armored trench coats or something?
  2211. [2011-12-27 23:05:00] <Ironybot> Knowledge is definitely a business expense. There's a reason that big companies send their personnel to conventions and foot the bills for it.
  2212. [2011-12-27 23:05:13] <Ironybot> And subsidize continuing education, yes.
  2213. [2011-12-27 23:05:23] <BUTTZ> And pay for consultants
  2214. [2011-12-27 23:05:30] <MrTT> Actuall IRL a business owner can use business funds to pay for his own education and healthcare so I hear
  2215. [2011-12-27 23:06:01] <Ironybot> On the Russians making a wishlist, we already had them do that. We talked with a couple of them and told them to put one together over a couple days, but they haven't given it back to us yet.
  2216. [2011-12-27 23:06:05] <Ironybot> Perhaps because we haven't asked.
  2217. [2011-12-27 23:06:07] <subtle_wit> getting them those KGB armored cloaks would be good - then learn from Lo Fang and pass on to them the durability charm, so we dont have to spend our own time making charms
  2218. [2011-12-27 23:06:39] <Ironybot> All the Triad charms will require some level of chakra mastery to make.
  2219. [2011-12-27 23:06:45] <MrTT> Actually I think armas should be the source of the charms
  2220. [2011-12-27 23:06:53] <MrTT> its too valuable to leave in the hands of a contractor
  2221. [2011-12-27 23:06:55] <BUTTZ> Hm
  2222. [2011-12-27 23:07:00] <MrTT> Lo Fang does his own charms
  2223. [2011-12-27 23:07:10] <subtle_wit> "Do you want your cloaks to be armored from everything up to and including gyro-jet-propelled, rocket-in-a-casing nuclear-powered Reaper death guns? Then practice your calligraphy.
  2224. [2011-12-27 23:07:12] <BUTTZ> 400 million and we could have them, and us and Camella, go through cosmonaut training
  2225. [2011-12-27 23:07:19] <BUTTZ> That'd be pretty cool
  2226. [2011-12-27 23:07:28] <MrTT> lol subtle wit
  2227. [2011-12-27 23:07:29] <MrTT> that was awesome
  2228. [2011-12-27 23:07:35] <subtle_wit> Cant they write out the charms and we 'charge' them with chakra? Maybe not
  2229. [2011-12-27 23:07:53] <MrTT> MAybe
  2230. [2011-12-27 23:09:50] <PriceisMagic> That must be a big update
  2231. [2011-12-27 23:10:10] <BUTTZ> Shit now I want them to go through cosmonaut training so we can advertise being the only space-ready mercenary corp
  2232. [2011-12-27 23:10:46] <Ironybot> Being space-ready isn't really something we can successfully do.
  2233. [2011-12-27 23:11:00] <BUTTZ> It'd be a funny marketing gimmick
  2234. [2011-12-27 23:11:15] <Ironybot> We don't have the mundane support network and equipment required for it.
  2235. [2011-12-27 23:11:23] <BUTTZ> We can build it!
  2236. [2011-12-27 23:11:32] <MrTT> oh god the inuendo http://elderscrolls.wikia.com/wiki/The_Lusty_Argonian_Maid
  2237. [2011-12-27 23:11:43] <PriceisMagic> you only just found that MrTT?
  2238. [2011-12-27 23:11:51] <BUTTZ> Man I found that in the game
  2239. [2011-12-27 23:12:07] <BUTTZ> "Oh hey neat this game has books in it too, what's this one oh god"
  2240. [2011-12-27 23:12:47] <PriceisMagic> My reaction: ಠ_ಠ
  2241. [2011-12-27 23:13:24] <TMIoverload> I feel most of TG holds it in the same regard as Lady Chatterley
  2242. [2011-12-27 23:13:29] <MrTT> actually i found it through http://www.nerfnow.com/comic/655
  2243. [2011-12-27 23:13:54] <subtle_wit> that is the best harlequin novel involving an ambulatory lizard I have ever read
  2244. [2011-12-27 23:14:17] <Ralith> wat
  2245. [2011-12-27 23:14:23] <Ralith> oh
  2246. [2011-12-27 23:14:29] <Ralith> that
  2247. [2011-12-27 23:14:30] <BUTTZ> Most of TG are unrepentant furries
  2248. [2011-12-27 23:14:46] <MrTT> most of TG are unrepentant rapists
  2249. [2011-12-27 23:14:53] <Ralith> as opposed to repentant furries
  2250. [2011-12-27 23:15:01] <BUTTZ> Nah, they're too spineless to be rapists
  2251. [2011-12-27 23:15:04] <MrTT> christians
  2252. [2011-12-27 23:15:05] <BUTTZ> They're rapist-apologists
  2253. [2011-12-27 23:15:14] <Ralith> christians are unrepentant cannibals :V
  2254. [2011-12-27 23:15:22] <MrTT> there are christian homosexuals who are very repentant about their sexual behavior
  2255. [2011-12-27 23:15:40] <subtle_wit> no, we feel bad about it. Christianity has raised guilt to an art-form.
  2256. [2011-12-27 23:15:43] <PriceisMagic> How the fuck did you start about that?
  2257. [2011-12-27 23:15:47] <MrTT> I just came across "EVil Quest"
  2258. [2011-12-27 23:15:52] <MrTT> while looking for quests in tg
  2259. [2011-12-27 23:16:10] <MrTT> You are an evil overlord type thing, world has been purged of evil, trolls, orcs and goblins exterminated, etc..
  2260. [2011-12-27 23:16:32] <MrTT> you are EXTREMELY WEEK and have trouble standing, you are informed your power is propotional to evil in the world, with new evil being born the greatest boost
  2261. [2011-12-27 23:16:39] <MrTT> first thing they do is start randomly murdering people
  2262. [2011-12-27 23:16:43] <MrTT> almost get killed
  2263. [2011-12-27 23:16:46] <TMIoverload> I think unrepentant is the wrong word here. Blatantly desperate is more what I think of TG in regards to most of it's adult content.
  2264. [2011-12-27 23:16:48] <MrTT> except DM Fiat saves them for some reason
  2265. [2011-12-27 23:17:22] <MrTT> Then everyone start clamoring for raping a priestess in her church (which makes you EXTRA weak, barely able to stand) and thus "birthing new evil" in the LITERAL sense
  2266. [2011-12-27 23:17:23] <MrTT> retards
  2267. [2011-12-27 23:17:30] <subtle_wit> hit the nail on the head there, TMI
  2268. [2011-12-27 23:17:31] <MrTT> Although eventually that was barely downvoted
  2269. [2011-12-27 23:17:33] <Ironybot> Refocus, team. Assuming that Johan can provide us with assurances that we are not in horrible shit with Mammon that needs to be dealt with right the fuck now, what is our plan for the next few days?
  2270. [2011-12-27 23:17:58] <MrTT> kill doonie
  2271. [2011-12-27 23:18:08] <MrTT> take care of general
  2272. [2011-12-27 23:18:10] <Ironybot> ...in the next few days? Do you have some kind of plan for that?
  2273. [2011-12-27 23:18:12] <subtle_wit> That is the question, isnt it? Doony is the most pressing... so break that down
  2274. [2011-12-27 23:19:14] <subtle_wit> We need to get a drop of blood from lammy to do the Armasface charm. We need to convince Camella to work with us (wizard contract I suggested earlier works). We need to write an insulting letter of challenge or some other way of getting Doony to the right spot.
  2275. [2011-12-27 23:19:39] <subtle_wit> Diao is gonna come through with the boom, we have the manpower
  2276. [2011-12-27 23:19:59] <BUTTZ> I want to get a hydrophone and use that to insult Dooney
  2277. [2011-12-27 23:20:17] <BUTTZ> Plonk it in the water, crank it up to 11, start insulting him with gusto
  2278. [2011-12-27 23:20:35] <subtle_wit> I doubt Trick will be able to lock Doony in place, so we need some other way to contain him while Hillevi sets up her shot - what better to drop Doony than a giant fucking ice spear?
  2279. [2011-12-27 23:20:37] <Ironybot> When you say "we have the manpower", are you planning to bring the Russians in on this? I would oppose that on any level except preparation. We don't want them anywhere near a threat of the Doonongaes' caliber when he's been preparing to kill us for a couple months.
  2280. [2011-12-27 23:20:40] <subtle_wit> that would do
  2281. [2011-12-27 23:20:42] <Waryobserver> What about the rest of the supernatural aquatic community
  2282. [2011-12-27 23:20:52] <Waryobserver> I doubt they'll enjoy the racket
  2283. [2011-12-27 23:20:56] <MrTT> the problem is that the more people we bring in
  2284. [2011-12-27 23:21:00] <MrTT> the lower our share of the reward
  2285. [2011-12-27 23:21:18] <subtle_wit> By 'nearby', I mean 'within sniping distance'. This goes for Camella as well. Go Ping's boys being a bit back compared to us and Lammy, but within sight
  2286. [2011-12-27 23:21:46] <subtle_wit> and of course, Einrik prevents him from slipping off into the water
  2287. [2011-12-27 23:22:13] <Ironybot> Right. Those of us who fought the Doonongaes originally are working for free, Einrik's working as arranged, Hillevi... probably won't want any rewards but I suppose might ask for something- but anyone else we bring in will want recompense.
  2288. [2011-12-27 23:22:23] <subtle_wit> Actually, I'd be okay with taking position with Go Ping's guys under another illusion charm
  2289. [2011-12-27 23:22:28] <Ironybot> Who else are we bringing in, and what essential role will they be playing?
  2290. [2011-12-27 23:23:09] <BUTTZ> <Waryobserver>I doubt they'll enjoy the racket
  2291. [2011-12-27 23:23:10] <TMIoverload> So, where does Sake go in this? I think our healing will let us handle the poison, and I think Camella and Einrik could avoid getting touched. Wondering if perhaps he should sit on hillevi to make sure she doesn't get poisoned
  2292. [2011-12-27 23:23:15] <BUTTZ> Most of them hate Dooney, remember?
  2293. [2011-12-27 23:23:26] <BUTTZ> As long as we're entertaining they'll probably get a kick out of it
  2294. [2011-12-27 23:23:28] <subtle_wit> Camella: AVT-40 or GatMalite, on Tongue detail, as are Go Ping's guys. Long Wang has either Taste of Ruin or the Summer gun, we have the other plus Trick
  2295. [2011-12-27 23:23:44] <BUTTZ> Camella has her own magic sniper rifle
  2296. [2011-12-27 23:23:51] <subtle_wit> Her ice armor should be the perfect foil for Doony's attack
  2297. [2011-12-27 23:23:55] <subtle_wit> ... she does?
  2298. [2011-12-27 23:24:02] <BUTTZ> Well, a rifle prepared to turn magic if it isn't already
  2299. [2011-12-27 23:24:05] <subtle_wit> then hire a few russians to use them
  2300. [2011-12-27 23:24:09] <BUTTZ> But yeah, the Walther 2000
  2301. [2011-12-27 23:24:12] <subtle_wit> we basically need them for more hands
  2302. [2011-12-27 23:24:13] <TMIoverload> I think Camella should get Taste or Summer gun and Long Wang get the other, leaving us with trick/Silja
  2303. [2011-12-27 23:24:35] <TMIoverload> We want to ensure both hit
  2304. [2011-12-27 23:24:47] <subtle_wit> Heh. Point.
  2305. [2011-12-27 23:24:54] <BUTTZ> It was the gun she took from Frau Brandt, remember?
  2306. [2011-12-27 23:25:00] <subtle_wit> Although missing Doony would be pretty bad, considering he's quite a bit bigger than human
  2307. [2011-12-27 23:25:11] <TMIoverload> He can shapeshift
  2308. [2011-12-27 23:25:12] <Ironybot> He's also speedy as fuck.
  2309. [2011-12-27 23:25:26] <subtle_wit> He didn't outrun us, he could just tear through steel like paper
  2310. [2011-12-27 23:25:37] <subtle_wit> thats how he got around us
  2311. [2011-12-27 23:25:50] <BUTTZ> Walther WA 2000: Semi auto... Second Generation model... Wood portions of ironwood, from a tree growing on an elephant burial ground...
  2312. [2011-12-27 23:25:53] <subtle_wit> hence why I'm not real happy with Camella being within tonguing range
  2313. [2011-12-27 23:25:58] <BUTTZ> Ironwood
  2314. [2011-12-27 23:26:03] <BUTTZ> So it's a sanctified weapon
  2315. [2011-12-27 23:26:05] <Ironybot> He only did that because he didn't want to charge down a prepared fire corridor.
  2316. [2011-12-27 23:26:31] <TMIoverload> Also I think we want to hit him with the deathbullets from the Mateba
  2317. [2011-12-27 23:26:36] <subtle_wit> Right, but he didnt MEET us at our destination or anything, he was basically tearing through side corridors and pacing us
  2318. [2011-12-27 23:26:41] <subtle_wit> or such was my interpretation
  2319. [2011-12-27 23:26:46] <BUTTZ> Yeah we want to be able to tell Johan how they worked out
  2320. [2011-12-27 23:26:51] <subtle_wit> Im not sure if others can use Silja
  2321. [2011-12-27 23:27:04] <BUTTZ> She'll know the flavor though
  2322. [2011-12-27 23:27:05] <subtle_wit> so that's another set to hand russians
  2323. [2011-12-27 23:27:10] <BUTTZ> She got a taste of his blood, remember?
  2324. [2011-12-27 23:27:11] <TMIoverload> Even if they could I don't want them to
  2325. [2011-12-27 23:27:31] <PriceisMagic> She got then a taste
  2326. [2011-12-27 23:27:40] <PriceisMagic> She drained quite a bit
  2327. [2011-12-27 23:27:59] <TMIoverload> She got stuck in him two or three times. Deep into him too
  2328. [2011-12-27 23:28:27] <PriceisMagic> Its says he got withered looking
  2329. [2011-12-27 23:37:41] <BUTTZ> Y'all realize that a computer secured by a crime syndicate may well have integrated monitoring software that reports back to them, right?
  2330. [2011-12-27 23:39:27] <subtle_wit> Oh buttz, you and your paranoia. Lo Fang and Rocco seem like stand up dudes! They wouldn't do that to us!
  2331. [2011-12-27 23:40:06] <subtle_wit> *just in case, Armas spends the next month looking at tickets to canada on travelosity and lolcat videos*
  2332. [2011-12-27 23:44:41] |<-- Shot__ has left irc.rizon.net (Quit: ChatZilla 0.9.88 [Firefox 8.0/20111104165243])
  2333. [2011-12-27 23:45:43] <BUTTZ> "You're telling me that Armas likes pictures of cute cats?"
  2334. [2011-12-27 23:45:47] <TheBeardiestBob> Update's coming along
  2335. [2011-12-27 23:45:50] <TheBeardiestBob> more than halfway
  2336. [2011-12-27 23:45:58] <TheBeardiestBob> I really hope no one's writing a suggestion
  2337. [2011-12-27 23:47:47] <subtle_wit> "Obsessed, boss.
  2338. [2011-12-27 23:48:25] -->| Shifter20 (~Scrambled@Rizon-B08D127.lns17.ken.bigpond.net.au) has joined #golemquest
  2339. [2011-12-27 23:56:46] <PriceisMagic> Og cool we got the Palindrome
  2340. [2011-12-27 23:56:49] <PriceisMagic> Oh*
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