<00:27:47> "(∩｀-´)⊃━☆ﾟ.*･｡ﾟ": not replying to your AC forum pm anymore
<00:27:49> "(∩｀-´)⊃━☆ﾟ.*･｡ﾟ": you broke 2 forum rules
<00:27:51> "(∩｀-´)⊃━☆ﾟ.*･｡ﾟ": so i deleted the post
<00:28:00> "(∩｀-´)⊃━☆ﾟ.*･｡ﾟ": its unnecessarily inflammatory, and offtopic
<00:28:07> "(∩｀-´)⊃━☆ﾟ.*･｡ﾟ": i should have warned you
<00:28:10> "(∩｀-´)⊃━☆ﾟ.*･｡ﾟ": but i just deleted the post
<00:55:20> "Lucas": <00:32:35> "(∩｀-´)⊃━☆ﾟ.*･｡ﾟ": 3 Allée des Martinets, Annecy-le-Vieux, Rhone Alpes
<00:55:29> "Lucas": if 15 km is considered as accurate
<00:55:33> "Lucas": thats accurate lol
<00:55:41> "Lucas": i guess you're still supportin ghis intidimations
<00:57:38> "(∩｀-´)⊃━☆ﾟ.*･｡ﾟ": idk
<00:57:40> "(∩｀-´)⊃━☆ﾟ.*･｡ﾟ": fred just sent it to me
<00:57:51> "(∩｀-´)⊃━☆ﾟ.*･｡ﾟ": i didn't bother verifying anything, why would i?
<00:58:18> "Lucas": idk why you woul deven talk to such a shitty person
<00:58:22> "Lucas": thats the real question for me
<00:58:37> "(∩｀-´)⊃━☆ﾟ.*･｡ﾟ": i don't understand
<00:58:38> "(∩｀-´)⊃━☆ﾟ.*･｡ﾟ": like
<00:58:40> "(∩｀-´)⊃━☆ﾟ.*･｡ﾟ": legitimately
<00:58:43> "(∩｀-´)⊃━☆ﾟ.*･｡ﾟ": why you hate so many people
<00:58:45> "(∩｀-´)⊃━☆ﾟ.*･｡ﾟ": in the community
<00:59:01> "(∩｀-´)⊃━☆ﾟ.*･｡ﾟ": maybe the way i articulated myself on the forum earlier was aggressive, but the core point remains
<00:59:10> "(∩｀-´)⊃━☆ﾟ.*･｡ﾟ": even if i seem annoyed or angry or trolly or whatever, i'm really not
<00:59:10> "(∩｀-´)⊃━☆ﾟ.*･｡ﾟ": and ok
<00:59:13> "(∩｀-´)⊃━☆ﾟ.*･｡ﾟ": maybe you're not too
<00:59:19> "(∩｀-´)⊃━☆ﾟ.*･｡ﾟ": but you really come across as being angry sometimes
<00:59:24> "(∩｀-´)⊃━☆ﾟ.*･｡ﾟ": and honestly, no trolls: i just don't get it
<00:59:54> "Lucas": many ? not
<01:00:01> "(∩｀-´)⊃━☆ﾟ.*･｡ﾟ": lol
<01:00:02> "(∩｀-´)⊃━☆ﾟ.*･｡ﾟ": please
<01:00:04> "(∩｀-´)⊃━☆ﾟ.*･｡ﾟ": you hate basically
<01:00:10> "(∩｀-´)⊃━☆ﾟ.*･｡ﾟ": all of rC, all of oNe, all of MyS
<01:00:11> "(∩｀-´)⊃━☆ﾟ.*･｡ﾟ": larry
<01:00:13> "(∩｀-´)⊃━☆ﾟ.*･｡ﾟ": fred
<01:00:20> "(∩｀-´)⊃━☆ﾟ.*･｡ﾟ": all of the gema people fred hangs around with
<01:00:27> "(∩｀-´)⊃━☆ﾟ.*･｡ﾟ": you apparently also hate edward, from what he's told me
<01:00:39> "(∩｀-´)⊃━☆ﾟ.*･｡ﾟ": newbie too, and he's your clanmate ^^
<01:00:49> "(∩｀-´)⊃━☆ﾟ.*･｡ﾟ":
<22:39:48> "Newbie": he just tries to provoke
<22:40:06> "Newbie": if you say one negative thing about him/his work, he places you in undead category
<22:40:59> "Newbie": when we got trashed by france on sunset
<22:41:15> "Newbie": he ofc posted some shit comments on forums about us
<22:41:45> "Newbie": and then he also commented "germany pls disband" or sth like that
<22:42:30> "Newbie": and when i told him to stfu in public about his clanmates, he took it personally and started to come up with his match client again and place me into rC/undead/larry category (whatever that category is)
<01:01:20> "Lucas": so you still don't get it after all this time ?
<01:01:30> "Lucas": if people talk nonsense about me i can't care less
<01:01:43> "Lucas": when they start shitting on the things i do yeah its a problem.
<01:02:18> "(∩｀-´)⊃━☆ﾟ.*･｡ﾟ": but can you accept that what you're doing is flawed, at least?
<01:02:21> "(∩｀-´)⊃━☆ﾟ.*･｡ﾟ": or that there can be flaws?
<01:02:35> "(∩｀-´)⊃━☆ﾟ.*･｡ﾟ": is it the fact that people are insulting what you're doing, or is it the fact that you believe what you're doing cannot be insulted?
<01:03:16> "Lucas": first some background http://forum.cubers.net/thread-5033-post-166223.html#pid166223
<01:03:39> "Lucas": and yes i can take criticism, ofc
<01:04:09> "Lucas": you have no idea what the discussions that led to the current state of what i've done sounded like
<01:04:26> "Lucas": i had some strong arguments and disagreements with different people
<01:04:29> "Lucas": and still
<01:04:32> "(∩｀-´)⊃━☆ﾟ.*･｡ﾟ": the thing is, i think you're misunderstanding exactly what i'm saying
<01:04:37> "Lucas": sometimes changed my mind
<01:04:38> "(∩｀-´)⊃━☆ﾟ.*･｡ﾟ": i'm not opposed to what you're doing at all
<01:04:41> "Lucas": sometimes not
<01:04:48> "Lucas": BUT your arguments so far were all bs
<01:04:51> "Lucas": just on the principles
<01:04:52> "(∩｀-´)⊃━☆ﾟ.*･｡ﾟ": in fact the worst thing about your changes is that you implemented half time switching imo
<01:04:55> "Lucas": never on the content
<01:04:58> "(∩｀-´)⊃━☆ﾟ.*･｡ﾟ": what i'm against is the way you're doing it
<01:05:00> "(∩｀-´)⊃━☆ﾟ.*･｡ﾟ": why is that bs?
<01:05:07> "(∩｀-´)⊃━☆ﾟ.*･｡ﾟ": do you not think it being closed source is a problem?
<01:05:09> "(∩｀-´)⊃━☆ﾟ.*･｡ﾟ": legitimately
<01:05:23> "(∩｀-´)⊃━☆ﾟ.*･｡ﾟ": and btw, i never told anybody else not to use your stuff, that was larry/undead
<01:05:23> "Lucas": no, its not a problem
<01:06:26> "Lucas": ok that's true but still
<01:06:41> "Lucas": doesn't change that ALL your points were related to the fact
<01:06:47> "Lucas": you dont trust me
<01:07:10> "Lucas": and honestly - if anything it just pisses m eoff, yes, that what i produce is not judged on its intrinsec quality
<01:07:21> "(∩｀-´)⊃━☆ﾟ.*･｡ﾟ": ok, that's fair enough
<01:07:31> "(∩｀-´)⊃━☆ﾟ.*･｡ﾟ": but surely, you can at least see why i would find it as a problem?
<01:07:40> "(∩｀-´)⊃━☆ﾟ.*･｡ﾟ": or do you think i'm just criticising you because i find it fun?
<01:08:33> "Lucas": i think you're criticising me because you heard too much bullshit from a few dickheads lol
<01:08:49> "Lucas": let me explain
<01:08:56> "Lucas": you said i hate "so many people"
<01:09:11> "Lucas": there are only a few people i really can't stand in this game
<01:09:47> "Lucas": they are those who didn't attack just me but also my projects becaused they mixed up the personal issues they had against me with what i've done in the context of this game
<01:09:52> "Lucas": for instance Undead
<01:10:23> "Lucas": you know i'm from the internet too. so i dontmind if i get "trolled" a little
<01:11:39> "(∩｀-´)⊃━☆ﾟ.*･｡ﾟ": well, the thing is, i don't have any "personal issues" with you or against you, except for some posts on the forum i'm totally neutral towards you
<01:11:50> "(∩｀-´)⊃━☆ﾟ.*･｡ﾟ": even though i understand it's probably not reciprocated in any way
<01:11:59> "(∩｀-´)⊃━☆ﾟ.*･｡ﾟ": i don't see it as me hating because i want to hate
<01:12:05> "(∩｀-´)⊃━☆ﾟ.*･｡ﾟ": or hating based on my personal emotions towards you
<01:12:21> "(∩｀-´)⊃━☆ﾟ.*･｡ﾟ": i just legitimately think you can't expect people who play an open source game to use closed source software
<01:12:36> "Lucas": such as... windows ?
<01:12:44> "(∩｀-´)⊃━☆ﾟ.*･｡ﾟ": well, that's an operating system
<01:12:51> "(∩｀-´)⊃━☆ﾟ.*･｡ﾟ": and not everyone's using windows in AC
<01:13:04> "(∩｀-´)⊃━☆ﾟ.*･｡ﾟ": i'd say there's a disproportionately large amount of people on unix systems in AC compared to other games
<01:13:17> "Lucas": i woul db emore scared using close source OS than a close source video game lol
<01:13:38> "Lucas": remember the NSA key thing
<01:13:46> "(∩｀-´)⊃━☆ﾟ.*･｡ﾟ": but the point is, the modification is closed source, while the original game is not
<01:13:47> "(∩｀-´)⊃━☆ﾟ.*･｡ﾟ": i mean
<01:13:56> "(∩｀-´)⊃━☆ﾟ.*･｡ﾟ": with regards to computers you must have some degree of trust
<01:14:13> "(∩｀-´)⊃━☆ﾟ.*･｡ﾟ": you could say that i use closed source software every day
<01:14:20> "(∩｀-´)⊃━☆ﾟ.*･｡ﾟ": and i don't check every line of open source software i use either
<01:14:31> "(∩｀-´)⊃━☆ﾟ.*･｡ﾟ": it's totally true, but i just don't understand why you would be so opposed to it
<01:14:33> "(∩｀-´)⊃━☆ﾟ.*･｡ﾟ": that's literally it
<01:14:44> "(∩｀-´)⊃━☆ﾟ.*･｡ﾟ": i've never tried to say what you were doing is bad, just i could never understand that
<01:14:50> "Lucas": i explained myself about that a hundred times already
<01:15:01> "(∩｀-´)⊃━☆ﾟ.*･｡ﾟ": you don't want people to steal your code, right
<01:15:17> "(∩｀-´)⊃━☆ﾟ.*･｡ﾟ": but then that begs the question: do you really have any intention of merging this into the master branch for AC?
<01:15:19> "Lucas": basically : no way to do this officially ATM because of no cooperation from the devs in charge
<01:15:24> "(∩｀-´)⊃━☆ﾟ.*･｡ﾟ": yeah, i understand that
<01:15:37> "(∩｀-´)⊃━☆ﾟ.*･｡ﾟ": but when you say you won't even be open to releasing your code, people will be suspicious about your real intentions
<01:15:42> "Lucas": so if we want to finish our project without it getting denatured our only option is : keep it close source until the major features are inside
<01:15:56> "Lucas": what the fuck do you think my real intentions are ?
<01:15:58> "(∩｀-´)⊃━☆ﾟ.*･｡ﾟ": but how would the major features be added if the development team is broken?
<01:16:06> "(∩｀-´)⊃━☆ﾟ.*･｡ﾟ": to fork the game, honestly
<01:16:09> "(∩｀-´)⊃━☆ﾟ.*･｡ﾟ": that's how it seems to me
<01:16:10> "Lucas": when they eventually realize its amazing
<01:16:14> "(∩｀-´)⊃━☆ﾟ.*･｡ﾟ": not that it would be a bad thing even
<01:16:16> "Lucas": when we eventually get support on the forums.
<01:16:21> "(∩｀-´)⊃━☆ﾟ.*･｡ﾟ": but i just think some transparency is needed
<01:16:24> "Lucas": because we got a lot of support off the forums actually
<01:16:42> "(∩｀-´)⊃━☆ﾟ.*･｡ﾟ": but do you really think they would listen, even then?
<01:16:51> "Lucas": the forums don't reflect what were the true opinions about our work (sorry to say that a majority of testers liked it)
<01:17:13> "(∩｀-´)⊃━☆ﾟ.*･｡ﾟ": if i'm opposed to your methodology and not your ideas, but the developers are opposed to the ideas themselves, then why would they bend to public opinion?
<01:17:15> "Lucas": i don't know, if they would listen or not, but at least im doing something right
<01:17:26> "(∩｀-´)⊃━☆ﾟ.*･｡ﾟ": if the reviews were overwhelmingly positive as you say, why wasn't something done already?
<01:17:41> "Lucas": they are not opposed to the ideas, they are just pretty happy as long as some people give them the feeling they can ignore them.
<01:17:58> "Lucas": because it was true "off the forums"
<01:17:59> "(∩｀-´)⊃━☆ﾟ.*･｡ﾟ": if they're not opposed to the ideas, why would you have difficulty implementing it into the master branch then?
<01:18:20> "Lucas": but they can use the few haters messages to justify their absence of cooperation
<01:18:44> "Lucas": we dont need a branch, we need also a new repository, new subdomains
<01:18:59> "Lucas": it requires infrastructure and freedom
<01:19:18> "(∩｀-´)⊃━☆ﾟ.*･｡ﾟ": don't you think a fork would simply be easier?
<01:20:26> "Lucas": thats what we're doing
<01:20:41> "Lucas": except we keep it private because otherwise we're sure our efforts will be wasted
<01:21:07> "Lucas": the critical part is clearlty the infrastructure related part, because it requiers much more work but also is much less likely to be "accepted"
<01:21:45> "(∩｀-´)⊃━☆ﾟ.*･｡ﾟ": but you just said you wanted the developers to accept these changes
<01:21:55> "(∩｀-´)⊃━☆ﾟ.*･｡ﾟ": why would you want that at all if you're making your fork?
<01:23:11> "Lucas": want what ?
<01:24:02> "(∩｀-´)⊃━☆ﾟ.*･｡ﾟ": well, for the developers to accept or approve of your changes
<01:24:11> "(∩｀-´)⊃━☆ﾟ.*･｡ﾟ": if you're going to fork it anyway, why would it matter what the current devs think?
<01:24:18> "Lucas": because the 1st goal is to revive AC
<01:24:50> "Lucas": if it has to be our own fork we basically need to start from scratch, redo the mapmodels and maps etc.
<01:25:15> "Lucas": we could keep the current code ofc (the license allows it)
<01:25:27> "Lucas": but still we would lose the community and the packages
<01:25:53> "Lucas": itd be fucking stupid to make a fork
<01:26:06> "Lucas": when we basically want the same gameplay (moreor less)
<01:26:16> "Lucas": but with a different infrastructure
<01:28:05> "(∩｀-´)⊃━☆ﾟ.*･｡ﾟ": yeah, ok i understand
<01:28:15> "(∩｀-´)⊃━☆ﾟ.*･｡ﾟ": well, thanks for the explanation at least, i understand what your intentions are a bit better now
<01:48:43> "Lucas": i still don't understand yours though
<01:48:57> "(∩｀-´)⊃━☆ﾟ.*･｡ﾟ": hm, how so?
<01:51:31> "Lucas": i dont know what purposes are serving your insinuations on the forums
<01:53:21> "Lucas": i mean what are you expecting from these comments
<01:54:52> "(∩｀-´)⊃━☆ﾟ.*･｡ﾟ": which comments, the ones about your match client?
<01:55:06> "(∩｀-´)⊃━☆ﾟ.*･｡ﾟ": my intention was never to publicly humiliate you or slander your work, i merely wanted answers
<01:55:09> "(∩｀-´)⊃━☆ﾟ.*･｡ﾟ": i believe that was totally fair of me
<01:55:18> "(∩｀-´)⊃━☆ﾟ.*･｡ﾟ": and you just didn't like that it was painting a bad picture of your work
<01:55:23> "(∩｀-´)⊃━☆ﾟ.*･｡ﾟ": however, now i have my answers
<01:55:24> "(∩｀-´)⊃━☆ﾟ.*･｡ﾟ": and i'm fine
<01:55:54> "Lucas": no, rather those about my behavior towards some people
<01:56:19> "Lucas": because its always the same ; you suggest something ina very indirect manner (but its still obvious what you mean)
<01:56:39> "(∩｀-´)⊃━☆ﾟ.*･｡ﾟ": on the 1.3 wishes thread?
<01:56:51> "Lucas": yes but it was not the first time
<01:56:58> "Lucas": you proceeded this way several times
<01:57:05> "(∩｀-´)⊃━☆ﾟ.*･｡ﾟ": well
<01:57:10> "(∩｀-´)⊃━☆ﾟ.*･｡ﾟ": you said i'm being extremely dishonest
<01:57:18> "(∩｀-´)⊃━☆ﾟ.*･｡ﾟ": when i was referencing a quote of you
<01:57:21> "Lucas": then you blame me for not "taking this discussion privatly " or some shit
<01:57:26> "(∩｀-´)⊃━☆ﾟ.*･｡ﾟ": well, yeah
<01:57:30> "(∩｀-´)⊃━☆ﾟ.*･｡ﾟ": you have been inflammatory before
<01:57:35> "(∩｀-´)⊃━☆ﾟ.*･｡ﾟ": you started an argument on the AC quotes thread
<01:57:44> "(∩｀-´)⊃━☆ﾟ.*･｡ﾟ": if i were a mod back then, i could just have deleted your post or warned you
<01:57:54> "(∩｀-´)⊃━☆ﾟ.*･｡ﾟ": i asked XRD and he said he'd delete it when he got home, but he didn't want to warn you (idk why)
<01:57:59> "(∩｀-´)⊃━☆ﾟ.*･｡ﾟ": then i think SKB deleted it in the end
<01:58:03> "(∩｀-´)⊃━☆ﾟ.*･｡ﾟ": but its totally unnecessary from you
<01:58:13> "(∩｀-´)⊃━☆ﾟ.*･｡ﾟ": its clear that, if you're willing to derail other threads to insult me
<01:58:18> "(∩｀-´)⊃━☆ﾟ.*･｡ﾟ": you must have a personal problem with me
<01:58:19> "Lucas": my point about fredrik was right though
<01:58:27> "(∩｀-´)⊃━☆ﾟ.*･｡ﾟ": no, it wasn't
<01:58:36> "(∩｀-´)⊃━☆ﾟ.*･｡ﾟ": you said i'm supporting fredrik ddosing you because i want to get more people on my teamspeak
<01:58:43> "(∩｀-´)⊃━☆ﾟ.*･｡ﾟ": i don't even know anyone who would be that pathetic
<01:58:45> "Lucas": no
<01:58:48> "(∩｀-´)⊃━☆ﾟ.*･｡ﾟ": that he cares who visits his ts or not
<01:58:59> "Lucas": that was not my point at all
<01:59:28> "Lucas": but for instance he probably got my IP from your teamspeak
<01:59:48> "(∩｀-´)⊃━☆ﾟ.*･｡ﾟ": why would he want *your* IP?
<01:59:50> "Lucas": maybe in game, but then he wouldn't have the full one
<01:59:57> "(∩｀-´)⊃━☆ﾟ.*･｡ﾟ": he only wants to ddos your services, not your home internet
<02:00:16> "Lucas": "he only wants to ddos your services" oh i guess thats fine !
<02:00:28> "(∩｀-´)⊃━☆ﾟ.*･｡ﾟ": well, it completely disproves whatever point you were attempting to make
<02:00:33> "Lucas": thats still makes him a criminal you realise
<02:00:36> "(∩｀-´)⊃━☆ﾟ.*･｡ﾟ": or at least detaches any relevancy
<02:00:40> "(∩｀-´)⊃━☆ﾟ.*･｡ﾟ": yeah, i understand
<02:00:47> "(∩｀-´)⊃━☆ﾟ.*･｡ﾟ": but why does him wanting your IP have anything to do with it?
<02:00:53> "Lucas": how are we supposed to guess he only wants to attack these services
<02:00:59> "(∩｀-´)⊃━☆ﾟ.*･｡ﾟ": well, he told me
<02:00:59> "Lucas": you really don't see ? lol
<02:01:04> "(∩｀-´)⊃━☆ﾟ.*･｡ﾟ": he tells me a lot you know
<02:01:12> "(∩｀-´)⊃━☆ﾟ.*･｡ﾟ": i know his real name, his street, where he works
<02:01:17> "Lucas": so what ? hes an asshole. when i disagree with someone i don't ddos him.
<02:01:24> "(∩｀-´)⊃━☆ﾟ.*･｡ﾟ": no i understand
<02:01:38> "Lucas": and you're supporting him inthis tbh. and its fucking disgusting. do you imagine what it is to be contributing and getting this shit back
<02:01:48> "(∩｀-´)⊃━☆ﾟ.*･｡ﾟ": before you go on any other tangent
<02:01:53> "(∩｀-´)⊃━☆ﾟ.*･｡ﾟ": please explain how i'm supporting him
<02:01:53> "(∩｀-´)⊃━☆ﾟ.*･｡ﾟ": thx
<02:02:25> "Lucas": by finding him excuses, promoting him in your server and giving him the ability to cause further damage
<02:02:47> "Lucas": because maybe he told you he wouldn't ddos my connection but i don't trust criminals
<02:02:55> "(∩｀-´)⊃━☆ﾟ.*･｡ﾟ": i'm not giving him any abilities, it's not like i'm hosting LOIC for him or something
<02:03:04> "(∩｀-´)⊃━☆ﾟ.*･｡ﾟ": and that's fine, i trust fredrik because i've known him for years
<02:03:10> "(∩｀-´)⊃━☆ﾟ.*･｡ﾟ": if he attacks something, he always tells me about it beforehand
<02:03:14> "(∩｀-´)⊃━☆ﾟ.*･｡ﾟ": if its relevant somehow
<02:03:15> "(∩｀-´)⊃━☆ﾟ.*･｡ﾟ": like
<02:03:18> "(∩｀-´)⊃━☆ﾟ.*･｡ﾟ": before the douzefest thing this year
<02:03:24> "(∩｀-´)⊃━☆ﾟ.*･｡ﾟ": he told me he'd take the server down
<02:03:36> "(∩｀-´)⊃━☆ﾟ.*･｡ﾟ": he told me he took your woop.ac / aura servers down a few months ago too
<02:03:42> "Lucas": and look : i have to apologize because i work my ass off on AC
<02:03:51> "Lucas": but he gets all your sympathy for ddosing servers
<02:03:58> "Lucas": thats more than retarded, i lack words
<02:04:33> "(∩｀-´)⊃━☆ﾟ.*･｡ﾟ": i'm not sympathising with him because of his actions online
<02:04:36> "(∩｀-´)⊃━☆ﾟ.*･｡ﾟ": i just know him as a person
<02:04:43> "(∩｀-´)⊃━☆ﾟ.*･｡ﾟ": and he's a good guy, he's just doing bad things
<02:04:43> "Lucas": thats a whole.
<02:04:47> "(∩｀-´)⊃━☆ﾟ.*･｡ﾟ": even if you believe that's paradoxical
<02:05:01> "Lucas": attacking people doing things on their free time with their own money is weak, cowardly and stupid
<02:05:15> "Lucas": just like him
<02:05:29> "(∩｀-´)⊃━☆ﾟ.*･｡ﾟ": fredrik's family are millionaires, he's just a rich and bored kid
<02:05:34> "(∩｀-´)⊃━☆ﾟ.*･｡ﾟ": i wouldnt give him that much importance
<02:05:43> "Lucas": are you that stupid ?
<02:05:54> "Lucas": you realize he made use lose half the player base 2 years ago
<02:06:03> "(∩｀-´)⊃━☆ﾟ.*･｡ﾟ": i doubt it
<02:06:06> "Lucas": also made us lose lot of money on different hosting services
<02:06:13> "(∩｀-´)⊃━☆ﾟ.*･｡ﾟ": yes, well, he didn't ddos the ac forum
<02:06:13> "(∩｀-´)⊃━☆ﾟ.*･｡ﾟ": ever
<02:06:23> "(∩｀-´)⊃━☆ﾟ.*･｡ﾟ": he only ddos'd xrd's personal site because he banned gema servers from the MS
<02:06:28> "(∩｀-´)⊃━☆ﾟ.*･｡ﾟ": the thijng is
<02:06:33> "(∩｀-´)⊃━☆ﾟ.*･｡ﾟ": speaking personally about you
<02:06:39> "(∩｀-´)⊃━☆ﾟ.*･｡ﾟ": he only does it because you react this way
<02:06:40> "(∩｀-´)⊃━☆ﾟ.*･｡ﾟ": i'm serious
<02:06:49> "Lucas": thats terrorism.
<02:06:53> "(∩｀-´)⊃━☆ﾟ.*･｡ﾟ": lol
<02:06:56> "Lucas": he does it because hes stupid.
<02:07:06> "Lucas": hes wrong. only a sick mind would think otherwise
<02:07:29> "(∩｀-´)⊃━☆ﾟ.*･｡ﾟ": see this is what i mean
<02:07:32> "Lucas": hes a criminal, bored kid, bullied kid or w/e i don't mind. what he does sucks and hes attacking people who are not making money from anything
<02:07:37> "(∩｀-´)⊃━☆ﾟ.*･｡ﾟ": you just get so angry about things that happen online
<02:07:42> "Lucas": xrd website is hosted on the same machine as the forums and masterserver by the wa
<02:07:44> "(∩｀-´)⊃━☆ﾟ.*･｡ﾟ": is what he's doing wrong? yeah probably
<02:07:48> "Lucas": BUT dude wtf
<02:07:54> "Lucas": for you its a video game
<02:08:00> "(∩｀-´)⊃━☆ﾟ.*･｡ﾟ": well
<02:08:03> "(∩｀-´)⊃━☆ﾟ.*･｡ﾟ": isnt it a video game to everyone?
<02:08:04> "(∩｀-´)⊃━☆ﾟ.*･｡ﾟ": lol
<02:08:09> "Lucas": for me its more than 1000 € spent and months of work time
<02:08:20> "(∩｀-´)⊃━☆ﾟ.*･｡ﾟ": but it's money/work spent on a video game
<02:08:21> "(∩｀-´)⊃━☆ﾟ.*･｡ﾟ": i mean
<02:08:21> "Lucas": dont be that selfish
<02:08:29> "(∩｀-´)⊃━☆ﾟ.*･｡ﾟ": i'm not, i just think you need some perspective
<02:08:32> "Lucas": you are
<02:08:34> "(∩｀-´)⊃━☆ﾟ.*･｡ﾟ": it is great you're this passionate about the game
<02:08:35> "(∩｀-´)⊃━☆ﾟ.*･｡ﾟ": really
<02:08:40> "Lucas": i invested a lot in this game
<02:08:42> "(∩｀-´)⊃━☆ﾟ.*･｡ﾟ": but you're losing sight of yourself in the process
<02:08:46> "Lucas": and he DID attack the forums and MS
<02:08:58> "Lucas": because they were until very recently on the same machine as XRDwebsite
<02:09:03> "Lucas": and even if they weren't
<02:09:17> "Lucas": i mean come on, you're still finding him excuses...
<02:09:26> "Lucas": look
<02:09:34> "Lucas": you demand things to dev all the time
<02:09:37> "Lucas": they have to be perfect,
<02:09:51> "Lucas": they need to behave flawlessly
<02:09:54> "Lucas": but when a fucker comes in
<02:09:59> "Lucas": and ruins everything you think its normal
<02:10:02> "Lucas": its CRAZY
<02:10:20> "Lucas": but MAYBE you should understand that if i am so pissed its also because of cunts like him
<02:10:39> "Lucas": look
<02:10:47> "Lucas": in 2013 the websites were off for 2 months
<02:11:00> "Lucas": it almost killed the game
<02:11:18> "Lucas": now we're working on imrpovements for the game and he attacks the server that hosts woop.ac
<02:11:27> "Lucas": hes just killing our efforts
<02:11:42> "Lucas": and now i have to react like it pleases him ?
<02:11:59> "Lucas": why do i have to make efforts when im contributing for free and being the victim of a criminal ?
<02:12:09> "(∩｀-´)⊃━☆ﾟ.*･｡ﾟ": you don't have to, that's the point
<02:12:13> "(∩｀-´)⊃━☆ﾟ.*･｡ﾟ": it's clearly stressing you out
<02:12:23> "Lucas": oh so i have to accept the fact this game should die
<02:12:32> "Lucas": because someone is attacking it
<02:12:41> "Lucas": you're trying to make me give up... i get it
<02:12:51> "(∩｀-´)⊃━☆ﾟ.*･｡ﾟ": well, that's really not my intention
<02:12:53> "Lucas": but im not giving up, just because a kid decided i should
<02:13:03> "Lucas": thats your recommendation at least
<02:13:13> "(∩｀-´)⊃━☆ﾟ.*･｡ﾟ": nah, all i said was you should just care less
<02:13:15> "(∩｀-´)⊃━☆ﾟ.*･｡ﾟ": i mean
<02:13:19> "(∩｀-´)⊃━☆ﾟ.*･｡ﾟ": you will clearly be happier
<02:13:26> "Lucas": if we were careless the game would have stopped existing
<02:13:34> "Lucas": can't you fucking realize that ?
<02:13:41> "Lucas": this shit costs us money.
<02:13:42> "(∩｀-´)⊃━☆ﾟ.*･｡ﾟ": how on earth is that true?
<02:13:45> "(∩｀-´)⊃━☆ﾟ.*･｡ﾟ": yes i know
<02:13:52> "(∩｀-´)⊃━☆ﾟ.*･｡ﾟ": letting go of your hatred can be a good thing though
<02:13:54> "Lucas": we now need like 4 different servers
<02:14:00> "Lucas": lmao
<02:14:12> "(∩｀-´)⊃━☆ﾟ.*･｡ﾟ": like
<02:14:17> "(∩｀-´)⊃━☆ﾟ.*･｡ﾟ": i've literally never understood people
<02:14:19> "(∩｀-´)⊃━☆ﾟ.*･｡ﾟ": who can be like
<02:14:21> "(∩｀-´)⊃━☆ﾟ.*･｡ﾟ": "i hate you"
<02:14:22> "Lucas": like the girld getting raped, maybe they should wear more decent clothes and forget their hatred right
<02:14:22> "(∩｀-´)⊃━☆ﾟ.*･｡ﾟ": to someone else
<02:14:24> "(∩｀-´)⊃━☆ﾟ.*･｡ﾟ": over the internet
<02:14:34> "Lucas": i'm the victim of a criminal.
<02:14:40> "Lucas": i can hate him.
<02:14:49> "Lucas": he costed me money
<02:14:51> "Lucas": time
<02:16:37> "(∩｀-´)⊃━☆ﾟ.*･｡ﾟ": well, i never said you have no right to hate him
<02:16:39> "(∩｀-´)⊃━☆ﾟ.*･｡ﾟ": or be mad at him
<02:16:53> "Lucas": its not a matter of right
<02:16:54> "(∩｀-´)⊃━☆ﾟ.*･｡ﾟ": all i'm saying is for your own personal benefit i feel like it might be better to just let some anger go
<02:16:55> "Lucas": its just logic
<02:17:00> "(∩｀-´)⊃━☆ﾟ.*･｡ﾟ": hating someone is never logic
<02:17:04> "Lucas": my god please think
<02:17:05> "(∩｀-´)⊃━☆ﾟ.*･｡ﾟ": no matter what they've done
<02:17:11> "Lucas": so what do i do about the attacks ?
<02:17:22> "(∩｀-´)⊃━☆ﾟ.*･｡ﾟ": go to the police? idk
<02:17:25> "Lucas": if he decides to attack the game for 2 months straight again
<02:17:39> "Lucas": go to the police ? i've done it already
<02:17:48> "Lucas": and they called me back a few weeks ago, and i've been there
<02:17:56> "(∩｀-´)⊃━☆ﾟ.*･｡ﾟ": well, that's a start then
<02:17:58> "(∩｀-´)⊃━☆ﾟ.*･｡ﾟ": contact comhem?
<02:19:11> "Lucas": its a start but still
<02:19:28> "Lucas": as long as you're saying what hes doing is "not that bad" and i should "take it ez", for me you're completely clueless
<02:19:39> "Lucas": you hav eno idea whats at stake here ( the whole game, people, money)
<02:19:43> "Lucas": jamz left
<02:19:47> "(∩｀-´)⊃━☆ﾟ.*･｡ﾟ": i'm not saying what he's doing isn't bad
<02:19:59> "(∩｀-´)⊃━☆ﾟ.*･｡ﾟ": as for taking it easy, yes i believe that's something you should do, irrespective of what's actually happening
<02:20:05> "(∩｀-´)⊃━☆ﾟ.*･｡ﾟ": life is 10% what happens and 90% how you react to it
<02:20:12> "Lucas": but i still consider you as a traitor to this community and i think thats understandable
<02:20:19> "(∩｀-´)⊃━☆ﾟ.*･｡ﾟ": well
<02:20:20> "(∩｀-´)⊃━☆ﾟ.*･｡ﾟ": it's not
<02:20:21> "(∩｀-´)⊃━☆ﾟ.*･｡ﾟ": but i mean
<02:20:37> "Lucas": now that you remind me
<02:20:37> "(∩｀-´)⊃━☆ﾟ.*･｡ﾟ": i would only really care what someone thinks about me if i'm thinking highly of him
<02:20:44> "(∩｀-´)⊃━☆ﾟ.*･｡ﾟ": and no offence but obviously you can tell we're not best friends
<02:20:48> "Lucas": i should also add his death treat to my complaint
<02:21:07> "Lucas": doesn't matter if he was not being serious : the policemen told me that if anything new came, including a death treat, i should tell them
<02:21:13> "Lucas": threat*
<02:21:16> "(∩｀-´)⊃━☆ﾟ.*･｡ﾟ": cool
<02:22:03> "Lucas": but i can understand why you don't want people to know
<02:22:14> "(∩｀-´)⊃━☆ﾟ.*･｡ﾟ": i don't know what you're speaking about
<02:22:15> "Lucas": that you are giving mod permissions to the guy who attacks this game
<02:22:17> "Lucas": on your forums.
<02:22:21> "(∩｀-´)⊃━☆ﾟ.*･｡ﾟ": nono, i don't mind
<02:22:27> "(∩｀-´)⊃━☆ﾟ.*･｡ﾟ": if you made a thread about it in the general forum
<02:22:35> "(∩｀-´)⊃━☆ﾟ.*･｡ﾟ": i only took an issue because you derailed a thread to attack me
<02:22:39> "(∩｀-´)⊃━☆ﾟ.*･｡ﾟ": which is in violation of forum rules
<02:22:43> "Lucas": oh but you know we'd be getting ddosd if i did so
<02:22:46> "Lucas": its terrorism.
<02:22:55> "(∩｀-´)⊃━☆ﾟ.*･｡ﾟ": well then stfu about it if that's the best option
<02:23:00> "(∩｀-´)⊃━☆ﾟ.*･｡ﾟ": what else do you want me to say?
<02:23:49> "Lucas": well not much, it looks obvious to me that you are ok with his doings, since it kind of protect you
<02:24:06> "(∩｀-´)⊃━☆ﾟ.*･｡ﾟ": it doesn't protect me, it just doesn't harm me
<02:24:15> "(∩｀-´)⊃━☆ﾟ.*･｡ﾟ": i will never take any game as seriously as you take AC
<02:24:17> "(∩｀-´)⊃━☆ﾟ.*･｡ﾟ": that's just a fact
<02:24:24> "(∩｀-´)⊃━☆ﾟ.*･｡ﾟ": it's not like i haven't been ddos'd before
<02:24:25> "Lucas": of course because you'r enot doing shit for this game ;)
<02:24:38> "Lucas": i do.
<02:24:45> "(∩｀-´)⊃━☆ﾟ.*･｡ﾟ": i'm doing as much for this game as any competitive player would
<02:24:53> "(∩｀-´)⊃━☆ﾟ.*･｡ﾟ": yeah, no direct contributions
<02:24:54> "Lucas": you have never been involved in a project like i have
<02:24:59> "(∩｀-´)⊃━☆ﾟ.*･｡ﾟ": well, yes
<02:25:03> "(∩｀-´)⊃━☆ﾟ.*･｡ﾟ": why is that relevant?
<02:25:05> "(∩｀-´)⊃━☆ﾟ.*･｡ﾟ": i never claimed i was
<02:25:18> "Lucas": because then you would understand why its not "just a video game"
<02:25:27> "Lucas": you clearly can't
<02:25:49> "(∩｀-´)⊃━☆ﾟ.*･｡ﾟ": well
<02:25:52> "(∩｀-´)⊃━☆ﾟ.*･｡ﾟ": is AC your job?
<02:25:54> "(∩｀-´)⊃━☆ﾟ.*･｡ﾟ": no, clearly not
<02:26:00> "(∩｀-´)⊃━☆ﾟ.*･｡ﾟ": do you study at the university of assaultcube?
<02:26:01> "(∩｀-´)⊃━☆ﾟ.*･｡ﾟ": no
<02:26:03> "(∩｀-´)⊃━☆ﾟ.*･｡ﾟ": im sure
<02:26:08> "(∩｀-´)⊃━☆ﾟ.*･｡ﾟ": you have other things going on in your life
<02:26:10> "(∩｀-´)⊃━☆ﾟ.*･｡ﾟ": as do most people
<02:26:12> "Lucas": did i spent moer than 1k in AC ? Yes
<02:26:15> "(∩｀-´)⊃━☆ﾟ.*･｡ﾟ": you can't prioritise a game
<02:26:21> "(∩｀-´)⊃━☆ﾟ.*･｡ﾟ": even if it's working on it rather than playing it
<02:26:21> "Lucas": did i spend months of work on it ? yes
<02:26:57> "Lucas": would i be sad if a project i contribute to died and i'd lose all this work, if all this time was spent for nothing ? yes
<02:27:46> "Lucas": you can't understand, obviously.
<02:28:13> "Lucas": you can't understand that its unacceptable that a project with all the people involved can die just because a kid decided so.
<02:28:35> "(∩｀-´)⊃━☆ﾟ.*･｡ﾟ": i'm tired
<02:28:39> "(∩｀-´)⊃━☆ﾟ.*･｡ﾟ": i feel like talking about this is useless
<02:28:41> "(∩｀-´)⊃━☆ﾟ.*･｡ﾟ": i mean
<02:28:54> "(∩｀-´)⊃━☆ﾟ.*･｡ﾟ": i don't hate you, or dislike you, or whatever
<02:28:55> "(∩｀-´)⊃━☆ﾟ.*･｡ﾟ": i find it weird
<02:29:02> "(∩｀-´)⊃━☆ﾟ.*･｡ﾟ": you consider me to be somehow a traitor to the community
<02:29:16> "(∩｀-´)⊃━☆ﾟ.*･｡ﾟ": but then at the end of the day you're one guy with one opinion, so don't be under the impression that it hurts me in some way
<02:29:20> "Lucas": yes because you are :
<02:29:23> "(∩｀-´)⊃━☆ﾟ.*･｡ﾟ": i'll just finish by saying i really hope you consider
<02:29:27> "(∩｀-´)⊃━☆ﾟ.*･｡ﾟ": just calming down
<02:29:33> "(∩｀-´)⊃━☆ﾟ.*･｡ﾟ": because its clear as day to me
<02:29:38> "(∩｀-´)⊃━☆ﾟ.*･｡ﾟ": that you need a break from being stressed
<02:29:40> "Lucas": 1) saying that i overreact which is just plain stupid
<02:29:40> "(∩｀-´)⊃━☆ﾟ.*･｡ﾟ": that's all
<02:29:53> "Lucas": 2) saying we should just let this game die if fred decides so
<02:30:11> "Lucas": 3) giving access to any member of the community IP to someone who attacks the community several times
<02:30:40> "Lucas": 4) asking for the removal of posts where i make these facts public
<02:30:47> "Lucas": (because thats what you did at the time)
<02:30:55> "(∩｀-´)⊃━☆ﾟ.*･｡ﾟ": yes, because of you posting them on the quotes thread
<02:31:00> "Lucas": bs
<02:31:02> "(∩｀-´)⊃━☆ﾟ.*･｡ﾟ": its not needed to even post them in the first place
<02:31:06> "(∩｀-´)⊃━☆ﾟ.*･｡ﾟ": but if you do
<02:31:08> "(∩｀-´)⊃━☆ﾟ.*･｡ﾟ": make a thread
<02:31:09> "(∩｀-´)⊃━☆ﾟ.*･｡ﾟ": that's it
<02:31:14> "(∩｀-´)⊃━☆ﾟ.*･｡ﾟ": even xrd agreed with me on this
<02:31:28> "Lucas": XRD doesn't know everything.
<02:31:35> "Lucas": hed be pretty shocked by what you just said.
<02:31:45> "(∩｀-´)⊃━☆ﾟ.*･｡ﾟ": except for the fact that we were talking about it on irc
<02:31:45> "(∩｀-´)⊃━☆ﾟ.*･｡ﾟ": yeah

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