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"Proof" of Jesus

Nov 17th, 2013
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  1. Gospels:
  2. Mark - written no earlier than 70AD. Most likely it was written by someone who knew Peter
  3. Matthew - unknown author, based on Mark, written after it
  4. Luke - unknown author, based on Mark, most likely written late first century
  5. John - unknown author, written around 90-100AD
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  7. So you appear to claim to have factual knowledge of authors of them that scholraship hasn't found out. Care to share it with the rest of the world? Also note that even in best-case scenario nothing was written by people that actually had met Jesus and everything was written several decades after his alleged death.
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  10. Roman fire:
  11. it only shows christianity existed, it gives us zero information about Jesus.
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  13. Thallus:
  14. We know almost nothing about him as nothing has directly survived until recent ages. We only have some writings from late second century that reference his stuff. What we do know of it is full of contradictions and nearly no date is certain. Read more here: http://www.infidels.org/library/modern/richard_carrier/thallus.html
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  16. Suetonius:
  17. I couldn't figure out what you meant by 55AD there. What I do know is he didn't directly mention Jesus at any point. At least none of those mentions has survived long enough to be usable as evidence.
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  20. Mara Bar-Serapion:
  21. He never mentined Jesus by name, he was just describing a king of Jews. All we know is he wrote it somewhere after 73AD and before third century.
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  24. Josephus:
  25. He merely retold what was written in Bible and what he learnt from other scholars.
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  28. Writings of early Christians:
  29. list a few
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  33. "Far more evidenc than other historical people you have no problem believing existed."
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  35. Again, name a few.
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  39. In short, you didn't have absolutely anything that had been written anhywhere close to Jesus lifetime and everything is hearsay, often going throuhg several people/books before being written down.
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  42. Bonus question:
  43. Bible claims Jesus was talked about "far and wide" during his life time. Why didn't anyone write about it then and only did so about half a century after he allegedly died?
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