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  1. [Read from the bottom. I didn't think the last email was worth replying to, so didn't.
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  3. Joe,
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  5. Perfect - thanks a bunch. I actually audited his chat logs and the impression that I got was that it was not a malacious attempt to steal your campaigns, nor gather data from you - it looks almost friendly to me, but I guess that was clearly not the case. I also audited his personal account to confirm if the campaigns were align to yours (date / time / volume) and there honestly was not a trend at all, he ran a couple leads to the campaign (not very much) and it didn't work out. I don't even know if the information you offered him would have actually helped him anyways (lol, it was kinda setting him in wrong direct in some cases which I thought was funny).
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  7. Either way, I really apologize about the feeling that you get and I would like the opportunity to work with you again - if not, good luck on your current ventures and we will be around when you're ready to come back!
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  9. Cheers,
  10. Ryan Eagle
  11. Reply ?
  12. Ryan,
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  14. No worries. And I already paid off that overpayment, I told Matt about it the day I got it, he said he'd ask accounting, came back and said I could have it as a pre-payment for future earnings. I paid it off within a few days. This chat log's actually showing up, lol.
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  16. (20:55:32) [email protected] Hey man
  17. (20:55:46) matthewewanet hey
  18. (20:55:54) [email protected] I got my check :)
  19. (20:56:10) matthewewanet nice
  20. (20:56:26) [email protected] One minor issue though: it was meant to be for like $150, it's actually for $1276 lmfao
  21. (20:57:24) matthewewanet they overpaid?
  22. (20:57:29) [email protected] yeah
  23. (20:57:33) [email protected] by a whole load :p
  24. (20:57:47) matthewewanet probly messed up a decimal point or something
  25. (20:57:49) [email protected] 4x as much as my lifetime earnings
  26. (20:57:52) [email protected] yeah
  27. (20:57:52) matthewewanet hm
  28. (20:57:57) matthewewanet ya
  29. (20:58:02) matthewewanet you mind working with us to fix this?
  30. (20:58:05) matthewewanet lol
  31. (20:58:10) [email protected] sure haha :p
  32. (20:58:19) [email protected] I've tried messaging harrison/ryan
  33. (20:58:26) [email protected] ryan hasn't been on
  34. (20:58:45) [email protected] harrison I messaged 6 mins after he logged on this morning, but he hasn't replied
  35. (20:58:49) matthewewanet lol
  36. (20:58:59) matthewewanet ya i'll talk to someone about this
  37. (20:59:02) matthewewanet thanks for letting me know
  38. (20:59:24) [email protected] np
  39. (20:59:32) [email protected] I lol'd when I opened the envelope
  40. (21:04:56) matthewewanet lol
  41. (21:04:59) matthewewanet i'll let accounting no
  42. (21:05:00) matthewewanet know*
  43. (21:05:05) matthewewanet and they should be in contact with you
  44. (21:05:08) matthewewanet thanks for lettin me know
  45. (21:05:13) [email protected] kk, cheers
  46. (21:05:15) [email protected] and np
  47. (21:21:57) matthewewanet you can either apply it to future payments or send us back a check
  48. (21:22:00) matthewewanet for the overpayment amount
  49. (21:22:22) matthewewanet best for us if you can return the balance but
  50. (21:22:48) [email protected] it'd be nice to apply to future payments
  51. (21:23:50) matthewewanet ok i'll let them know
  52. (21:24:26) [email protected] ok, awesome, thanks :)
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  54. Joe
  55. Joe,
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  57. Then so be it - I really apologize about the situation and I hope to retry the relationship in the future. Is there anyway you could get return the overpayment to you on March 21st? I believe the balance with 900~ something dollars.
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  59. Cheers,
  60. Ryan Eagle
  61. Reply ?
  62. Ryan,
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  64. I'm not sure how much help that'd be, to be honest. Since this happening, I switched to epic, ran with them for a bit, and then didn't get paid in their payment issue until very recently. Since then, I've switched to abovealloffers, with Eli as my account manager, who's offered me weekly wires, as well as any offer I want that's at epic with a much higher payout.
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  66. Joe
  67. Reply ?
  68. Joe,
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  70. I think it may be a wise idea to transfer you to someone else who is not actively promoting on PoF, can we do this?
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  72. Cheers,
  73. Ryan Eagle
  74. Reply ?
  75. Ryan,
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  77. Basically, at one point I was getting over 100 leads per day for meetrealguys. I shared the details of the campaign with him (as well as all the others I ran with EWA), because I thought it'd be beneficial, as he could help me improve it. He ended up basically ripping my campaign, same traffic source, same demo targeting, same CPM bid. He did this first without telling me, and then at one point offered me a payout bump in exchange for helping him with his campaigns. I accepted, assuming it'd be a different offer or a different traffic source, something to differentiate it from mine. Turns out it wasn't. At one point, he let me login to his pof account, and all the campaigns there were basically my meetrealguys campaign and another be2 campaign, which I'd run before meetrealguys. (and he hadn't mentioned anything about that campaign to me). He tried prising out my exact ad copy from me, but I'd gotten new copy since the payout bump, and by that point I'd gotten distrustful, so I stayed pretty vague. IIRC, I reminded him that he should build his own campaigns, rather than just trying to directly copy, which he responded to with something along the lines of "but I gave you a payout bump for you to help me out".
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  79. There was one other payout bump in exchange for help along the way, but I can't remember when exactly that was. Also, this is probably gonna make it sound like I'm bullshitting, but I just looked in my digsby logs, and that was one of the conversations it didn't save. Judging from the gaps in conversation though, I'd say it's mid to late march (17th onwards) to early april. If you have a look at his chat logs, you should be able to verify what I've said. I can also tell you that he lives in Massachusetts, can't remember what county exactly, but as far as I can remember it's not suffolk (my godfather lives in Boston) - I looked at his billing page when I went into his pof account, to see if he'd been promoting there before I was an affiliate under him, and if not, when he started.
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  81. Joe
  82. Reply ?
  83. Joe,
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  85. What do you mean? Rip campaigns them offer to help rip better? I would love to hear more information.
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  87. Cheers,
  88. Ryan Eagle
  89. Reply ?
  90. Hey Ryan,
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  92. I wasn't going to mention this, since he seemed like a nice guy apart from this, but... He shouldn't rip campaigns, then offer payout bumps in return for helping him to rip them better.
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  94. Let me know if you want any more info on this.
  95.  
  96. Joe (-joe- from wickedfire)
  97. Reply ?
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  99. Joseph,
  100. I'm contacting you for a short review of Matthew: What can he improve? Is he easy to reach and available enough for you? Does he give you good campaign & offer suggestions? Thanks!
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  102. To Success,
  103. BIRDMAN
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