Friday Night Chatroom 2014/12/14

Friday Night Chatroom 12/14/2014

[18:07] == MerryBossMan_ [4cbcfdf4@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.188.253.244] has joined #mmrpg

[18:08] == mode/#mmrpg [+o MerryBossMan_] by DededeTheKING

[18:08] <@MerryBossMan_> Wa?

[18:08] <@MerryBossMan_> Why are there so many mods?

[18:08] <@DededeTheKING> dont go too far with your powers

[18:08] <@MikeyMcScrooge> *points at DDD*

[18:08]  * TheDoc points at DeDeDe

[18:08] == mode/#mmrpg [-o TheDoc] by MerryBossMan_

[18:08] <@DededeTheKING> .just for topic brainstorming.

[18:08] == mode/#mmrpg [-o MikeyMcScrooge] by MerryBossMan_

[18:08] == mode/#mmrpg [-o MerryBossMan] by MerryBossMan_

[18:08] == mode/#mmrpg [-o IceTailsMK4] by MerryBossMan_

[18:08] == mode/#mmrpg [-o IceTailsMK4] by DededeTheKING

[18:08] == mode/#mmrpg [-o CHAOS_FANTAZY] by MerryBossMan_

[18:08] == mode/#mmrpg [-o DededeTheKING] by MerryBossMan_

[18:08] <@MerryBossMan_> There.

[18:08] <DededeTheKING> Gah.

[18:08] <@MerryBossMan_> If I need to mod anyone else, I will.

[18:08] <DededeTheKING> dude.

[18:08] <MikeyMcScrooge> Heh.

[18:08] <DededeTheKING> i was here first..

[18:09] <@MerryBossMan_> King, you just showed why you can't be a mod.

[18:09] <IceTailsMK4> One mod for the session ought to be enough.

[18:09] <DededeTheKING> I guess your right.

[18:09] <@MerryBossMan_> Alright.

[18:09] <DededeTheKING> I just wanted to brainstorm, for our topic

[18:09] <@MerryBossMan_> Now that I'm back where I should be.

[18:09] == MerryBossMan_ changed the topic of #mmrpg to: Sunday Night Chatroom 12/14/2014

[18:09] <MikeyMcScrooge> Let the ideas and discussion floweth!

[18:10] <@MerryBossMan_> Alright.

[18:10] <DededeTheKING> Me first?

[18:10] <@MerryBossMan_> Tails, you can still go ahead with your idea.

[18:10] <DededeTheKING> oh, ok.

[18:10] <@MerryBossMan_> Adrian will still read this.

[18:10] <DededeTheKING> after...

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[18:10] <DededeTheKING> 18:09.

[18:10] <IceTailsMK4> Well, you're just going to tell him?

[18:11] <@MerryBossMan_> Of course.

[18:11] <IceTailsMK4> Cause we discussed it already.

[18:11] <IceTailsMK4> Unless you want me just to mention it again on here?

[18:11] <TheDoc> Yes :)

[18:11] <@MerryBossMan_> Do what you want, I'm not you.

[18:11] <DededeTheKING> ok so...

[18:11] <IceTailsMK4> Well, it concerns the alt skins for those of you curious.

[18:11] <DededeTheKING> i guess i will get a 4 minute speach about bla bla bla

[18:11] <@MerryBossMan_> My idea won't be ready until next week.

[18:11] <DededeTheKING> just...

[18:12] <IceTailsMK4> Adrian said a while back, though I cannot remember what happened exactly...

[18:12] <@MerryBossMan_> I've been busy with SOOOO much, as I told Doc and Mike.

[18:12] <DededeTheKING> well.

[18:12] <IceTailsMK4> That he would do GS skins for the Prototype, since they are easy enough to do.

[18:12] <DededeTheKING> maybe we could brainstorm COSTUME IDEAS!

[18:12] <DededeTheKING> brb

[18:12] <IceTailsMK4> It would NOT be that hard to turn them to GB because the GB skins are really just two or three colors.

[18:12] <@MerryBossMan_> And I already have most of them done, of course.

[18:13] <@MerryBossMan_> But Adrian would have to manually put it in, as he said before.

[18:13] <IceTailsMK4> I don't see why we can't have both GB and GS skins on the Prototype.

[18:13] <IceTailsMK4> There's already tons of alts planned.

[18:13] <IceTailsMK4> And the main work is just doing the recolors, isn't it?

[18:13] <MikeyMcScrooge> Probably not.

[18:13] <IceTailsMK4> I don't know exactly how it works on his end...so it is an assumption, yes.

[18:13] <MikeyMcScrooge> He's not using anything with "Paint" in the title. He has full on Photoshop.

[18:14] <IceTailsMK4> But turning GS into GB shouldn't take that much effort to do.

[18:14] <IceTailsMK4> I just would like to see both kinds turned into alt skins for the RMs.

[18:14] <CHAOS_FANTAZY> Oh, the recolors are made manually?

[18:14] <MikeyMcScrooge> That's essentially downgrading it, and that has to be done by hand if the bot has no GB counterpart.

[18:14] <IceTailsMK4> That's my topic.

[18:15] <IceTailsMK4> Manually, yes.

[18:15] <@MerryBossMan_> Yep.

[18:15] <@MerryBossMan_> I'm evidence of that/

[18:15] <IceTailsMK4> Though GS can be done by a few commands, but that's it.

[18:15] <IceTailsMK4> The rest of the recolors Adrian is doing has to be done by hand.

[18:15] <MikeyMcScrooge> A command. 2 keystrokes in Paint.net.

[18:15] <@MerryBossMan_> If you guys want, I could put the GB colors on my sprite profile, so at least you could look at what could've been.

[18:16] <CHAOS_FANTAZY> The 4MI colors I wanted wouldn't have broken anything, though.  That's good.  It's kind of a shame that most of the alt colors Adrian is providing seem to be very safe and sterile.  :/

[18:17] <@MerryBossMan_> Adrian said that in the future, he'd consider fan-game recolors.

[18:17] <IceTailsMK4> If what Adrian said was true about opening up certain positions...

[18:17] <IceTailsMK4> There could be someone else doing the recolors and adding them to the game.

[18:17] <@MerryBossMan_> I could handle sprites or music.

[18:17] <@MerryBossMan_> Photoshop isn't exactly cheap, but neither am I.

[18:17] <CHAOS_FANTAZY> Recoloring would be an easy job for me.  Heck, I might even take some requests.

[18:18] <@MerryBossMan_> I remember when I used to do fan-requests...

[18:18] <IceTailsMK4> Perhaps if Adrian is willing to let others do recolors, some process could be put in place to accept or reject ideas.

[18:19] <IceTailsMK4> Though that'll sure be tons of skins to do in the game...

[18:19] <IceTailsMK4> And that may require a fourth shop...but let's not go down that road just yet. It was rocky last time we went there... <_<

[18:19] <TheDoc> Lol

[18:19] <@MerryBossMan_> Anyway, let's move on.

[18:19] <IceTailsMK4> That was all I wanted to mention, that I'd like to see both GS and GB alt skins for the game.

[18:20] <@MerryBossMan_> Yeah, of course.

[18:20] <IceTailsMK4> *steps off the stand*

[18:20] <@MerryBossMan_> And I'd love to see your idea in-game.

[18:20] <@MerryBossMan_> Anyway, should I go ahead?

[18:20] <MikeyMcScrooge> Sure.

[18:20] <@MerryBossMan_> *Steps on the stand*

[18:20] <IceTailsMK4> I'm all ears...or eyes, I guess.

[18:21] <@MerryBossMan_> Alright, I didn't get to finish this idea, as my week has been CRAZY

[18:21] <@MerryBossMan_> Green card renewals aren't exactly to fill out, amiright?

[18:21] <@MerryBossMan_> *exactly easy

[18:21] <@MerryBossMan_> Anyway, what I was planning...

[18:22] <DededeTheKING> BAAAAAAAAAACk

[18:22] <TheDoc> wb

[18:22] <@MerryBossMan_> Do you guys remember how the early chapters can be a bit of a pain your first-go-around?

[18:22] <IceTailsMK4> I wouldn't know since my family's immigrant line was over from the Mayflower...

[18:22] <@MerryBossMan_> Yeah, lucky...

[18:22] <DededeTheKING> Ahem, my op back?

[18:22] <TheDoc> yes

[18:22] <TheDoc> @MBM

[18:22] <IceTailsMK4> First go around, yeah.

[18:22] <@MerryBossMan_> So, I replayed it.

[18:22] <IceTailsMK4> I didn't have much trouble, but I did have a loss or two.

[18:23] <@MerryBossMan_> And I found myself getting whopped a bit.

[18:23] <@MerryBossMan_> Not too much trouble, but still a bit of a pain.

[18:23] <@MerryBossMan_> Now, imagine a first-timer with this.

[18:23] <@MerryBossMan_> Unfamiliar, all that.

[18:23] <@MerryBossMan_> Alright, side-note I noticed about Fire Man here.

[18:23] <IceTailsMK4> I didn't when I did a low-level run...especially since I chose to do Elec Man first and get Mega Man some experience with the Spine.

[18:23] <@MerryBossMan_> Fire Storm is a pain to deal with.

[18:24] <IceTailsMK4> And had Mega Man and Roll dealing with...Oil Man, I think I started with.

[18:24] <@MerryBossMan_> Not only is defense raised, but the attack gets stronger each time.

[18:24] <@MerryBossMan_> Now, that's a whole nother thing.

[18:24] <@MerryBossMan_> However, I managed to prevail being a smart cookie.

[18:24] <@MerryBossMan_> Like I said though, new guys?

[18:24] <@MerryBossMan_> They're going to have trouble.

[18:24] <IceTailsMK4> Indeed.

[18:24] <TheDoc> So what do you propose?

[18:25] <@MerryBossMan_> Now, there's experienced new-comers, and new-comers who aren't good with RPGs.

[18:25] <IceTailsMK4> This kind of difficulty should be experience later, rather than earlier.

[18:25] <@MerryBossMan_> For the latter, I propose an option you could find in the menu.

[18:25] <@MerryBossMan_> "Easy Mode"

[18:25] <MikeyMcScrooge> It's actually a LOT worse than high attack and defense, but, yes, it's a MASSIVE problem.

[18:25] <@MerryBossMan_> Lower field multipliers

[18:25] <@MerryBossMan_> Also, one bigger thing here

[18:25] <@MerryBossMan_> I'm still not 100% with this next thing

[18:26] <@MerryBossMan_> But the first time you fight a Robot Master?

[18:26] <IceTailsMK4> I fell into the former group, btw, having played tons of RPGs.

[18:26] <@MerryBossMan_> You know how they have a mecha?

[18:26] <@MerryBossMan_> And if you beat em, they have 2, and so forth?

[18:26] <TheDoc> yep

[18:26] <IceTailsMK4> Yeah, up to 5.

[18:26] <IceTailsMK4> Er, 4 mechas.

[18:26] <@MerryBossMan_> The first time you fight em in Easy Mode

[18:26] <@MerryBossMan_> They don't have a mecha.

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[18:26] <IceTailsMK4> I disagree.

[18:26] <@MerryBossMan_> Yeah, I wasn't too big on that either.

[18:27] <@MerryBossMan_> But Easy Mode WOULD have to lower things.

[18:27] <IceTailsMK4> Because if you have trouble with the RMs...

[18:27] <@MerryBossMan_> Field Multipliers and such.

[18:27] <IceTailsMK4> Your only experience is from the Mets.

[18:27] <MikeyMcScrooge> The only way we gain exp then is to rehash the intro stage again and again. :P

[18:27] <@MerryBossMan_> No, you could still fight the mets.

[18:27] <IceTailsMK4> MBM.

[18:27] <@MerryBossMan_> Mike, I thought you were in support of that?

[18:27] <TheDoc> Also lower the BP output

[18:27] <IceTailsMK4> If you remove the mechas from the RM stages itself...

[18:27] <@MerryBossMan_> Doc?

[18:27] <@MerryBossMan_> Really?

[18:27] <IceTailsMK4> YOU CAN ONLY FIGHT METS TO GET EXP.

[18:27] <@MerryBossMan_> How did you?

[18:27] <TheDoc> .....Is there something on my face?

[18:28]  * TheDoc awkwardly feels face

[18:28] <@MerryBossMan_> Tails, like I said, that wasn't something I was too big on.

[18:28] <@MerryBossMan_> The drawback to this

[18:28] <MikeyMcScrooge> @ Boss: Actually, I'm in support of there being MORE intro stages.

[18:28] <@MerryBossMan_> Lower BP amount

[18:28] <MikeyMcScrooge> like 3 or 4.

[18:28] <IceTailsMK4> Yes, I agree Easy needs to have something lowered, and the only thing really is Field Modifiers.

[18:28] <@MerryBossMan_> @Mike That's already something Adrian's working on.

[18:28] <@MerryBossMan_> Anyway, there needs to be an Easy mode.

[18:28] <IceTailsMK4> The tutorial stages, right?

[18:29] <MikeyMcScrooge> Nah, just more intro stages.

[18:29] <@MerryBossMan_> And the tutorial stages was something that I'll talk about next week.

[18:29] <IceTailsMK4> Oh.

[18:29] <MikeyMcScrooge> I don't know how Adrian feels about my tutorial idea.

[18:29] <MikeyMcScrooge> He never said anything about it last week.

[18:29] <@MerryBossMan_> Now, when you get to Final Destination

[18:29] <IceTailsMK4> How about some extra intro stages where you get level 1 Mechas randomly generated like in the Bonus Stages?

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[18:29] <TheDoc> Hiya Zero

[18:29] <ZeroDXZ> ZeroDXZ Present!

[18:30] <ZeroDXZ> Hi Doc

[18:30] <@MerryBossMan_> Like I said

[18:30] <@MerryBossMan_> When you get to FD

[18:30] <MikeyMcScrooge> Hey, DXZ.

[18:30] <ZeroDXZ> Hello Mikey

[18:31] <@MerryBossMan_> A prompt would come up, only in Easy Mode, that would encourage the player to play on Normal Mode

[18:31] <@MerryBossMan_> In fact, maybe one day in the future...

[18:31] <@MerryBossMan_> We could get an unlockable mode known as Hard Mode.

[18:31] <ZeroDXZ> are we talking Mega-Man

[18:31] <ZeroDXZ> or Smash Bros?

[18:31] <@MerryBossMan_> But that's for another day.

[18:31] <@MerryBossMan_> Mega Man.

[18:31] <ZeroDXZ> ok

[18:31] <MikeyMcScrooge> XD @ DXZ

[18:31] <ZeroDXZ> just to be clear

[18:31] <IceTailsMK4> MMRPG Prototype, to be exact.

[18:32] <TheDoc> MMRPG has a Final Destination stage

[18:32] <ZeroDXZ> my Phoenix Wright sense just kicked in there xD

[18:32] <MikeyMcScrooge> I second DXZ's emotion, actually.

[18:32] <IceTailsMK4> Each story has three missions on it.

[18:32] <MikeyMcScrooge> :P

[18:32] <@MerryBossMan_> Anyway, I think we all could agree this game could use an Easy Mode.

[18:32] <IceTailsMK4> Yes.

[18:32] <TheDoc> Yus

[18:32] <ZeroDXZ> um

[18:32] <MikeyMcScrooge> Nah.

[18:32] <ZeroDXZ> if i may

[18:32] <MikeyMcScrooge> Thats more work for Adrian.

[18:32] <ZeroDXZ> if i may!!

[18:32] <@MerryBossMan_> Clicking an option and changing field multipliers?

[18:32] <TheDoc> @Zero you don't need to ask. Just throw it out there :D

[18:33] <IceTailsMK4> ...No, that'd be a bit too complicated

[18:33] <ZeroDXZ> the game itself is actually already easy

[18:33] <ZeroDXZ> IF!

[18:33] <ZeroDXZ> you have the stars

[18:33] <ZeroDXZ> and OP stats

[18:33] <IceTailsMK4> Zero, think about people with ...

[18:33] <IceTailsMK4> Zero, first go around.

[18:33] <ZeroDXZ> i know

[18:33] <TheDoc> We're talking about when you first start

[18:33] <ZeroDXZ> i know Tails

[18:33] <ZeroDXZ> but

[18:33] <ZeroDXZ> that's why they have the demo mode

[18:33] <MikeyMcScrooge> He'd also have to code things for the game to MAKE this Easy Mode

[18:33] <@MerryBossMan_> If it is something that requires A LOT of work, we could make it the focus of a Update.

[18:33] <ZeroDXZ> that in itself is a Easy Mode

[18:33] <@MerryBossMan_> What I just said.

[18:33] <ZeroDXZ> to show players about the game

[18:33] <IceTailsMK4> The demo mode is not really like that of the main game.

[18:33] <ZeroDXZ> and maybe give them a tutorial

[18:34] <ZeroDXZ> *shakes head*

[18:34] <@MerryBossMan_> I already have a tutorial mode idea in the works.

[18:34] <MikeyMcScrooge> There's a simpler way to fix this. It's part of my presentation, this week.

[18:34] <ZeroDXZ> well

[18:34] <ZeroDXZ> may we hear about it MegaBossMan?

[18:34] <@MerryBossMan_> The "Scream at Mikey" ideas?

[18:34] <@MerryBossMan_> I don't have it ready.

[18:34] <ZeroDXZ> well

[18:34] <ZeroDXZ> may we at least hear about it?

[18:34] <ZeroDXZ> like

[18:34] <ZeroDXZ> the idea

[18:34] <ZeroDXZ> and how it's going to be worked out?

[18:34] <@MerryBossMan_> It's a tutorial.

[18:34] <IceTailsMK4> I'd like to see the beginning made a tiny bit easier, but the game should get a tiny bit harder the later you go through the game, and not just the spike in difficulty at Chapter 4.

[18:34] <@MerryBossMan_> How else would it work?

[18:35] <MikeyMcScrooge> That's what I have in mind, too.

[18:35] <ZeroDXZ> *facepalms*

[18:35] <MikeyMcScrooge> I'm waiting my turn, DXZ. Patience. I always go last. Every week.

[18:36] <ZeroDXZ> well

[18:36] <ZeroDXZ> as for me

[18:36] <ZeroDXZ> i had mentioned in the xat

[18:36] <ZeroDXZ> about the MMX and MMZ series

[18:36] <ZeroDXZ> if anybody remembers correctly

[18:36] <ZeroDXZ> i was hoping IF, i had the help...maybe near future..i could refer to some of you people to make a cross-over game

[18:37] <@MerryBossMan_> ?

[18:37] <ZeroDXZ> maybe asking for Adrians help, and usage of the system used for the Prototype as well

[18:37] <CHAOS_FANTAZY> I think the balance of this game will take a turn for the better, once Adrian finishes this winter update with the stat rebalancing.

[18:37] <@MerryBossMan_> I don't think that would work.

[18:37] <ZeroDXZ> it's worth a try MBM

[18:37] <ZeroDXZ> worth a try

[18:37] <ZeroDXZ> and if it doesn't work

[18:37] <IceTailsMK4> ...I just remembered one of Mikey's ideas... -_-

[18:37] <@MerryBossMan_> First off, unless your game was a RPG, you couldn't use this system.

[18:37] <ZeroDXZ> there's always a plan B

[18:38] <ZeroDXZ> tell us tails xD

[18:38] <@MerryBossMan_> Second off, you'd need someone with tons of code experience, and Adrian would be too busy here.

[18:38] <@MerryBossMan_> And go ahead, Tails.

[18:38] <IceTailsMK4> I think he'll mention it later... >_>

[18:38] <@MerryBossMan_> The "S" idea.

[18:38] <@MerryBossMan_> Oh boy.

[18:38] <@MerryBossMan_> Anyway, who's next on the stand?

[18:38] <@MerryBossMan_> *Steps off stand*

[18:38]  * TheDoc eats a cookie

[18:39] <IceTailsMK4> Code experience? Does working towards a Bachelor's in Computer Science count? :P

[18:39] <ZeroDXZ> ...

[18:39] <ZeroDXZ> depending

[18:39] <ZeroDXZ> on what field it's for my friend

[18:39] <IceTailsMK4> No one else has ideas except for Mikey?

[18:39] <ZeroDXZ> -erherm-

[18:39] <ZeroDXZ> and me

[18:39] <ZeroDXZ> xD

[18:40] <IceTailsMK4> Go ahead DXZ.

[18:40] <ZeroDXZ> which were said earlier

[18:40] <@MerryBossMan_> If no one else had anythinh, I suppose it's your turn Zero.

[18:40] <ZeroDXZ> i was contemplating on the 'NO ITEM' usage on the Player Battles

[18:40] <ZeroDXZ> and i came with the conclusion

[18:41] <ZeroDXZ> "well what if it's just the pellets?"

[18:41] <@MerryBossMan_> No.

[18:41] <@MerryBossMan_> At least, I wouldn't like that.

[18:41] <ZeroDXZ> thats also what i said merry

[18:41] <IceTailsMK4> Especially not the Weapon Pellets.

[18:41] <ZeroDXZ> i do have another idea

[18:41] <ZeroDXZ> actually

[18:41] <@MerryBossMan_> The Player Battles are supposed to be fair.

[18:41] <ZeroDXZ> -ahem-

[18:41] <IceTailsMK4> "fair".

[18:41] <ZeroDXZ> i contemplated what you both said -_-

[18:41] <ZeroDXZ> anyways

[18:41] <IceTailsMK4> Starforce broke the fairness a long time ago. :/

[18:41] <ZeroDXZ> THAT also!

[18:42] <ZeroDXZ> i know the Starforce is supposed to be random

[18:42] <ZeroDXZ> and we have that Chart

[18:42] <IceTailsMK4> There's NO defense against someone with max Starforce.

[18:42] <ZeroDXZ> from whats-his-face

[18:42] <@MerryBossMan_> *cough* coreguard

[18:42] <IceTailsMK4> ...yet.

[18:42] <TheDoc> Random how?

[18:42] <ZeroDXZ> well

[18:42] <ZeroDXZ> notice how the fusion and field stars all depend on a certain field

[18:43] <@MerryBossMan_> It isn't random, I believe.

[18:43] <ZeroDXZ> or Fusion Field?

[18:43] <ZeroDXZ> actually

[18:43] <@MerryBossMan_> You mean the moves.

[18:43] <ZeroDXZ> considering

[18:43] <ZeroDXZ> it is

[18:43] <@MerryBossMan_> No, it depends on how much you have.

[18:43] <TheDoc> You can set up the fields to get specific stars

[18:43] <TheDoc> There is no randomness to it

[18:43] <ZeroDXZ> *facepalms then sets hands on his Defense Attorney's Desk*

[18:44] <ZeroDXZ> know

[18:44] <ZeroDXZ> what

[18:44] <@MerryBossMan_> Zero, you're talking to someone who has all 1024 stars, I think I know what I'm saying.

[18:44] <ZeroDXZ> look at it from my P.O.V

[18:44] <IceTailsMK4> *people

[18:44] <ZeroDXZ> i mean

[18:44] <@MerryBossMan_> Doc doesn't have them all.

[18:44] <ZeroDXZ> *takes up a paper and taps it with his finger*

[18:44] <ZeroDXZ> yes

[18:44] <ZeroDXZ> 1024

[18:45] <ZeroDXZ> 1024 stars

[18:45] <@MerryBossMan_> Go ahead, I'm listening.

[18:45] <ZeroDXZ> that being alot

[18:45] <ZeroDXZ> yes

[18:45] <ZeroDXZ> it is possible they are set random

[18:45] <ZeroDXZ> yes it isn't considered random considering you have the set fields

[18:45]  * TheDoc drools

[18:45] <ZeroDXZ> but what really gets me is how you could POSSIBLY!...and i mean possibly

[18:45] <ZeroDXZ> get them all

[18:45] <@MerryBossMan_> ?

[18:45] <ZeroDXZ> with the tedious acts and all that also with said stratz

[18:46] <@MerryBossMan_> But that isn't random, that's determination.

[18:46] <ZeroDXZ> how would you possibly know the combinations for all 1024?

[18:46] <ZeroDXZ> or even the single fields for some?

[18:46] <@MerryBossMan_> Because we put a lot of thought into getting them all.

[18:46] <ZeroDXZ> ....

[18:46] <IceTailsMK4> The combos are based off of the RM pairs.

[18:46] <@MerryBossMan_> We don't get it willy-nilly, we plan it.

[18:46] <ZeroDXZ> so says the man that let IceTailsMK4 pass him

[18:46] <ZeroDXZ> WAY off the chart

[18:46] <@MerryBossMan_> ........

[18:46] <@MerryBossMan_> *Sigh*

[18:46] <ZeroDXZ> maybe

[18:46] <IceTailsMK4> Uh, let's not go there. >_>

[18:47] <@MerryBossMan_> Listen.

[18:47] <MikeyMcScrooge> Heh.

[18:47] <IceTailsMK4> What happens in the top 3, stays in the top 3. :P

[18:47] <@MerryBossMan_> It's not random, we plan it.

[18:47] <TheDoc> @Zero Whether or not you think it's ridiculous, the evidence still stands. People have done it; it's not impossible

[18:47] <IceTailsMK4> We have...7 people, atm? One just needs 3 more Stars to be the 8th.

[18:48] <@MerryBossMan_> I'd prefer if we didn't spend time on this, let's move on.

[18:48] <ZeroDXZ> 0.0'

[18:48] <MikeyMcScrooge> 7, yes. Full list in order on my profile.

[18:48] <@MerryBossMan_> Adrian still has to read this.

[18:48] <TheDoc> Is that all the ideas then?

[18:48] <@MerryBossMan_> No, Mikester.

[18:48] <IceTailsMK4> This is going to be a large pastebin...and we haven't even got to Mikey yet.

[18:48] <ZeroDXZ> ...

[18:48] <TheDoc> Well BESIDES Mikey lol

[18:48] <ZeroDXZ> *slams desk*

[18:48] <MikeyMcScrooge> HAH. :P

[18:48] <ZeroDXZ> i don't last remember the time i last talked to Adrian

[18:49] <@MerryBossMan_> Mike himself could amount to a full meeting.

[18:49] <ZeroDXZ> @CHAOS_FANTAZY.... btw...love your profile :3

[18:49] <IceTailsMK4> With whatever is in his sinistar beaker of a mind. lol

[18:49] <IceTailsMK4> *sinister

[18:49] <IceTailsMK4> Bah.

[18:49] <@MerryBossMan_> Alright, let's get to the Mike-screamy portion.

[18:50] <IceTailsMK4> *claps slowly as Mikey takes the stand*

[18:50] <@MerryBossMan_> I assume no one else has anything, so we'll get to the meat of the section.

[18:50]  * TheDoc eats another cookie

[18:50] <IceTailsMK4> (Prepare your low voices. lol)

[18:50] <@MerryBossMan_> [Hey, let's not get too goofy here though]

[18:50]  * TheDoc fluffs his pillow

[18:50] <IceTailsMK4> (Yeah yeah, I know...)

[18:51] <ZeroDXZ> *taps my piece of paper*

[18:51] <MikeyMcScrooge> All right. Please understand that I make these ideas not to be a ***** or a *********, but because Prototype is uneven; the MM1 bots are hardest, and that's just plain ridiculous, so, this week I have 7 idea to make Prototype a more enjoyable and more fufilling experience.

[18:51] <@MerryBossMan_> [Zero, were you not done?]

[18:51] <@MerryBossMan_> [Alright, we'll get to you later, after this]

[18:52] <IceTailsMK4> I think that's been established already it's been uneven...so we're all ears.

[18:52] <ZeroDXZ> um

[18:52] <MikeyMcScrooge> Enjoy. http://pastebin.com/mxZV1ZfZ

[18:52] <ZeroDXZ> not to interupt

[18:52] <ZeroDXZ> but Mikey

[18:52] <MikeyMcScrooge> Hmm?

[18:52] <ZeroDXZ> i was lucky to pass the MM1 bots with a single failure

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[18:52] <IceTailsMK4> Oh, I see. This helps...

[18:52] <ZeroDXZ> that being i believe on Time-Man

[18:52] <IceTailsMK4> Looking at #1 now.

[18:52] <MikeyMcScrooge> Key word there: lucky.

[18:52] <MikeyMcScrooge> I died 9 times.

[18:52] <ZeroDXZ> well

[18:52] <ZeroDXZ> being me

[18:52] <ZeroDXZ> and i played Pokemon

[18:52] <ZeroDXZ> understood stratagy

[18:52] <MikeyMcScrooge> ......BEFORE I BEAT ONE.

[18:53] <ZeroDXZ> and many other stuff

[18:53] <ZeroDXZ> yea

[18:53] <ZeroDXZ> you threw me off

[18:53] <ZeroDXZ> thanks alot -_-

[18:53] <@MerryBossMan_> 3, I will never agree with.

[18:53] <ZeroDXZ> you deserve a penalty from the judge

[18:53] <ZeroDXZ> xD

[18:53] <IceTailsMK4> I'm already brushing aside #1.

[18:54] <@MerryBossMan_> 5, I could see a bit.

[18:54] <IceTailsMK4> Cause I talked about the problem with this one so many times.

[18:54] <@MerryBossMan_> 6?

[18:54] <@MerryBossMan_> I think you got some of those wrong.

[18:54] <IceTailsMK4> Why bother with the MM1 robots when the other robots have higher starting stats?

[18:54] <ZeroDXZ> ....

[18:54] <@MerryBossMan_> Most of those work with percentages that only boost stats.

[18:54] <ZeroDXZ> @IceTails

[18:54] <ZeroDXZ> agreed

[18:54] <MikeyMcScrooge> Just edited #1 with the link from the past Pastebin. Forgot about that. :P

[18:55] <@MerryBossMan_> And for 7, you shall be crucified.

[18:55] <ZeroDXZ> ...

[18:55] <IceTailsMK4> Unlike MBM, I'll go slow and carefully read each idea...

[18:55] <@MerryBossMan_> I read and think fast.

[18:55] <IceTailsMK4> We've talked about #2 already and I still am unsure about that one...

[18:56] <Tobyjolly> I'm sorry, what am I missing here? Also, hello

[18:56] <@MerryBossMan_> Hey.

[18:56] <@MerryBossMan_> 2 would be nice, but that's a finishing touch.

[18:56] <IceTailsMK4> Especially when some of the abilities are Tier II abilities.

[18:56] <@MerryBossMan_> That'd take quite a bit to do.

[18:56] <IceTailsMK4> It'd make more sense to make the Tier I abilities exclusive, imo.

[18:56] <ZeroDXZ> ....

[18:57] <@MerryBossMan_> Exclusive moves wouldn't be bad.

[18:57] <ZeroDXZ> to be honest

[18:57] <ZeroDXZ> i think i've been abusing my "OP" Bass

[18:57] <MikeyMcScrooge> Hey, T.J. Just presented my ideas. Hold on.

[18:57] <IceTailsMK4> My main problem with increasing stats...

[18:57] <MikeyMcScrooge> http://pastebin.com/mxZV1ZfZ

[18:57] <IceTailsMK4> You're proposing to increase the BASE stats.

[18:57] <MikeyMcScrooge> Yep.

[18:57] <IceTailsMK4> Which I cannot agree with.

[18:57] <@MerryBossMan_> I dunno about 4, that has a lot of work in it.

[18:58] <ZeroDXZ> ...

[18:58] <IceTailsMK4> If you're talking about gradually increasing the level of the robots, that's another thing entirely.

[18:58] <@MerryBossMan_> 5 though.

[18:58] <@MerryBossMan_> Yeah, I wouldn't mind.

[18:58] <MikeyMcScrooge> We do that already. They're still simple.

[18:58] <@MerryBossMan_> Also, can I talk about something real quick?

[18:58] <IceTailsMK4> And Adrian's new stat adjustment system can give us some variety.

[18:58] <MikeyMcScrooge> Even the Final Destination ones.

[18:58] <ZeroDXZ> ...

[18:59] <@MerryBossMan_> Hey, Zero, I hope you don't mind, but could I get a quick idea before the rest of your ideas?

[18:59] <@MerryBossMan_> I promise you, it'd be really quick.

[18:59] <IceTailsMK4> I think you can kind of determine how your stats will grow as you level up...

[18:59] <IceTailsMK4> I might need to read that again.

[18:59] <ZeroDXZ> sure

[18:59] <IceTailsMK4> But robots at the same level do not need to have the same exact stats, just like Pokemon in the wild don't have the same exact stats.

[19:00] <@MerryBossMan_> As for unofficial 8...

[19:00] <IceTailsMK4> The BASE stats are the same.

[19:00] <@MerryBossMan_> Isn't there something after 100 levels?

[19:00] <IceTailsMK4> But some robots could get higher stats per level.

[19:00] <@MerryBossMan_> Like increasing stats?

[19:00] <IceTailsMK4> I thought Adrian was getting rid of that?

[19:00] <@MerryBossMan_> No, he isn't.

[19:00] <@MerryBossMan_> There's just a limit now.

[19:01] <@MerryBossMan_> Also, #7 is the S idea.

[19:01] <IceTailsMK4> I'm interested now...so ok, let me rephrase...

[19:01] <IceTailsMK4> Even though robots and Mechas max out at level 100...

[19:01] <IceTailsMK4> They can still grow.

[19:01] <IceTailsMK4> (not Mechas, though)

[19:01] <ZeroDXZ> ...

[19:01] <IceTailsMK4> If you applied that concept instead of adjusting base stats, Mikey, then you'd have my support for idea 1.

[19:02] <IceTailsMK4> Reading idea 4 now...

[19:02] <ZeroDXZ> um

[19:02] <ZeroDXZ> i support Idea #7

[19:03] <ZeroDXZ> not saying the Starforce was usefull

[19:03] <@MerryBossMan_> I could never support idea 7.

[19:03] <@MerryBossMan_> Imagine.

[19:03] <@MerryBossMan_> The 7 players who grinded for days..

[19:03] <IceTailsMK4> Critical hits...I'm not sure what to say about this one.

[19:03] <ZeroDXZ> i kinda did see bad things about the Starforce

[19:03] <@MerryBossMan_> And all their starforce just poof?

[19:03] <Tobyjolly> I can agree with Idea 1-3, I completely disagree with idea 4-5, and I get what you are saying with idea 6-7, but that is NOT the correct way to balance them.

[19:03] <IceTailsMK4> I'll get back to idea 4.

[19:03] <ZeroDXZ> MBM

[19:03] <ZeroDXZ> i kinda support you

[19:03] <@MerryBossMan_> That'd be such a kick in the gut, I couldn't even describe it.

[19:03] <ZeroDXZ> but i also support the taking down of the Starforce

[19:03] <ZeroDXZ> either way if it goes

[19:03] <ZeroDXZ> or if it doesn;t

[19:03] <MikeyMcScrooge> It's hard to answer everything at once in here. :P

[19:03] <ZeroDXZ> *'t

[19:04] <ZeroDXZ> then i'll be happy

[19:04] <IceTailsMK4> Yeah, I know.

[19:04] <ZeroDXZ> as long as it gets a verdict

[19:04] <IceTailsMK4> No comments about Idea 5 because we really need this.

[19:04] <@MerryBossMan_> Alright, should we take this one at a time?

[19:04] <IceTailsMK4> That's what I was doing, MBM, and I'm now going to read idea 6.

[19:04] <@MerryBossMan_> I know, I wasn't directly speaking to you.

[19:04] <ZeroDXZ> *taps my piece of paper*

[19:04] <@MerryBossMan_> Give us a bit more.

[19:05] <MikeyMcScrooge> Yeah, lets do this one at a time, please.

[19:05] <ZeroDXZ> @MBM if you feel what i said before was offensive then i'm sorry

[19:05] <MikeyMcScrooge> ...andthankyou.

[19:05] <@MerryBossMan_> @Zero No, it's fine.

[19:06] <IceTailsMK4> Idea 6 is good to me, now to read 7...

[19:07] <IceTailsMK4> *prepares the cross* lol

[19:07] <ZeroDXZ> ...

[19:07] <ZeroDXZ> if i may interrupt

[19:07] <ZeroDXZ> um

[19:07] <ZeroDXZ> the Core-Force idea

[19:07] <ZeroDXZ> ..as an idea for a defense against the Star-Froce

[19:07] <ZeroDXZ> *force

[19:07] <CHAOS_FANTAZY> You do realize that these suggestions basically kill everything that MMRPG ever had going for it in its history of forever, right?

[19:08] <ZeroDXZ> seeing as aforementioned a certain someone wanted the Star-Force removed

[19:08] <IceTailsMK4> Starforce needs to do more than just increase attack. I believe this was suggested before.

[19:08] <@MerryBossMan_> @CHAOS That's exactly what I think.

[19:08] <ZeroDXZ> wouldn't that make the Core-Force useless?

[19:08] <MikeyMcScrooge> It's already useless.

[19:08] <@MerryBossMan_> No, it defends aganist Starforce.

[19:08] <ZeroDXZ> Merry

[19:08] <ZeroDXZ> i'm saying

[19:08] <ZeroDXZ> what if Star-Force DOES

[19:08] <ZeroDXZ> get removed

[19:08] <@MerryBossMan_> Ah, yes.

[19:08] <IceTailsMK4> It's not going to.

[19:08] <ZeroDXZ> Core-Force would be useless

[19:08] <ZeroDXZ> UTTERLY

[19:08] <@MerryBossMan_> That's another reason why.

[19:08] <@MerryBossMan_> We can't just cut it out.

[19:09] <@MerryBossMan_> I mean, that's two huge mechanics cut off.

[19:09] <MikeyMcScrooge> That's what I'm saying: Both should be eliminated.

[19:09] <IceTailsMK4> Starforce just needs to be adjusted, not removed.

[19:09] <MikeyMcScrooge> It just helps to break an otherwise awesome games.

[19:09] <IceTailsMK4> Having tons of Starforce should INCREASE the defense against the same element.

[19:09] <MikeyMcScrooge> *game

[19:09] <@MerryBossMan_> Break an otherwise awesome game?

[19:09] <@MerryBossMan_> How many people have starforce again?

[19:09] <@MerryBossMan_> 7?

[19:09] <ZeroDXZ> hey

[19:10] <@MerryBossMan_> The full set.

[19:10] <MikeyMcScrooge> You assume that you need all 1,024 to beat Tails.

[19:10] <ZeroDXZ> ok nvm

[19:10] <MikeyMcScrooge> You don't.

[19:10] <IceTailsMK4> You could get away with only certain elements.

[19:10] <MikeyMcScrooge> 900 at the minimum, I think.

[19:10] <IceTailsMK4> Not even that much.

[19:10] <@MerryBossMan_> That's still quite a bit.

[19:10] <ZeroDXZ> ...

[19:10] <IceTailsMK4> This does kind of spoil the big secrets...but I feel I should make a point.

[19:11] <MikeyMcScrooge> Not really.

[19:11] <IceTailsMK4> There's two ways to beat my team, and any team, really.

[19:11] <ZeroDXZ> also

[19:11] <MikeyMcScrooge> DXZ still has to figure out HOW to beat you with only 57 Stars. :P

[19:11] <ZeroDXZ> last time for me interrupting

[19:11] <@MerryBossMan_> Yeah, not to you Mike.

[19:11] <IceTailsMK4> The broken Rain Flush ability beefed up with max Water Starforce...

[19:11] <@MerryBossMan_> But you have loads of freetime.

[19:11] <ZeroDXZ> the fact of 250 being the Level Cap

[19:11] <@MerryBossMan_> Me?

[19:11] <@MerryBossMan_> I took about a week.

[19:11] <ZeroDXZ> it concerns me

[19:11] <@MerryBossMan_> And it was a long tedious week.

[19:12] <@MerryBossMan_> You should've seen my GF.

[19:12] <IceTailsMK4> Or a quick attacking ability like Quick Boomerang with its max amount of Starforce.

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[19:12] <IceTailsMK4> And Quick Boomerange actually gets more powerful overtime.

[19:12] <IceTailsMK4> Because it gets power from TWO elements.

[19:12] <ZeroDXZ> oh ya

[19:12] <ZeroDXZ> it does

[19:12] <ZeroDXZ> doesn't it have

[19:12] <ZeroDXZ> cutter and quick?

[19:12] <MikeyMcScrooge> It's worth mentioning that I address the kind of thing that Quick Boomerang can allow you to do in Idea #5.

[19:12] <ZeroDXZ> or

[19:12] <ZeroDXZ> swift

[19:13] <ZeroDXZ> i mean

[19:13] <IceTailsMK4> Cutter is one of the most dominant elements, btw.

[19:13] <@MerryBossMan_> Quick Boomerang ignores stats?

[19:13] <MikeyMcScrooge> I'm posting a whole thread on this when this is over, so, you can kill me there. :P

[19:13] <@MerryBossMan_> Oy.

[19:13] <IceTailsMK4> I have to brb, but that leads to the discussion regarding how broken Starforce gets, and it needs to be adjusted to increase defense or something.

[19:14] <MikeyMcScrooge> It ignores s****.

[19:14] <ZeroDXZ> Mikey

[19:14] <@MerryBossMan_> Quick Boomerang doesn't ignore anything.

[19:14] <TheDoc> But isn't that why coreguard is becoming a thing?

[19:14] <ZeroDXZ> *throws an Objection!*

[19:14] <@MerryBossMan_> Exactly.

[19:14] <ZeroDXZ> *slams desk*

[19:14] <TheDoc> The "adjustment" is already planned

[19:14] <ZeroDXZ> i never got my answer about the Level. 250 Cap. concern

[19:14] <ZeroDXZ> that i had

[19:14] <TheDoc> You said it concerns and didn't explain why

[19:15] <ZeroDXZ> well

[19:15] <MikeyMcScrooge> That's the thing, do you have any idea how much damage that those of us with, say, 800 or more stars can do?

[19:15] <TheDoc> That's not a question to answer

[19:15] <ZeroDXZ> give me time here

[19:15] <ZeroDXZ> i'm still asking myself

[19:15] <ZeroDXZ> "why?"

[19:15] <ZeroDXZ> ok

[19:15] <@MerryBossMan_> Mike.

[19:15] <ZeroDXZ> got it now

[19:15] <ZeroDXZ> yet

[19:15] <MikeyMcScrooge> I addresssed that in the Pastebin, DXZ.

[19:15] <@MerryBossMan_> Coreguard blocks a PERCENTAGE of damage.

[19:15] <ZeroDXZ> shouldn't the EXP needed for that be increased?

[19:15] <@MerryBossMan_> It doesn't block a set amount

[19:15] <ZeroDXZ> like maybe 250 points?

[19:15] <TheDoc> @Zero please stop taking 4-5 comments to finish one sentence

[19:15] <ZeroDXZ> or another 1,000?

[19:16] <MikeyMcScrooge> Coreguard, if I'm told correctly will allow you to block up to 49.5% of damage from an element, yes?

[19:16] <TheDoc> Afk I may have to go here

[19:16] <@MerryBossMan_> The percent hasn't been announced yet.

[19:16] <ZeroDXZ> *waited*

[19:17] <MikeyMcScrooge> Whatever it is, it won't be enough.

[19:17] <@MerryBossMan_> Do you know that?

[19:17] <@MerryBossMan_> Better than nothing, or just throwing it all the window.

[19:17] <@MerryBossMan_> *Just throwing it all out

[19:17] <MikeyMcScrooge> I do. Remember that image you posted, Boss, about you overkilling Ring Man by 3/4 of a BILLION damage?

[19:18] <@MerryBossMan_> That wasn't only due to Starforce though.

[19:18] <@MerryBossMan_> Anyway, let's move on.

[19:18] <MikeyMcScrooge> 99% of that is STILL 10 million damage.

[19:18] <IceTailsMK4> Just got back, wanted to respond to something I saw before I left.

[19:18] <IceTailsMK4> Mikey, Quick Boomerang doesn't ignore Speed.

[19:18] <MikeyMcScrooge> It'll block NOTHING.

[19:18] <@MerryBossMan_> The game doesn't have coreguard though.

[19:18] <MikeyMcScrooge> What happens if you use it, Tails?

[19:18] <@MerryBossMan_> Player Battles have coreguard.

[19:18] <MikeyMcScrooge> You go......?

[19:18] <IceTailsMK4> If you have opponents using two Quick Boomerang, two Search Snakes, or a combo, the player with the highest Speed fires.

[19:18] <ZeroDXZ> ...

[19:19] <IceTailsMK4> And Quick Boomerang versus Proto Strike?

[19:19] <MikeyMcScrooge> Other wise, you gooooo......?

[19:19] <IceTailsMK4> Proto Strike fires first.

[19:19] <@MerryBossMan_> ?

[19:19] <ZeroDXZ> ...

[19:19] <IceTailsMK4> The issue at hand is Attack Speed.

[19:19] <ZeroDXZ> -cough- Bass Baroque -cough-

[19:19] <IceTailsMK4> On the flip side...

[19:19] <MikeyMcScrooge> Which ignores speed.

[19:20] <IceTailsMK4> Any other ability will fire before Hard Knuckle.

[19:20] <IceTailsMK4> It does NOT ignore speed if the opponent uses a move with the same Attack Speed, Mikey.

[19:20] <MikeyMcScrooge> otherwise, it does.

[19:21] <ZeroDXZ> ....

[19:21] <MikeyMcScrooge> That's the truth. That's nt be being stubborn. That's the plain truth.

[19:21] <MikeyMcScrooge> *that's not me being stubborn

[19:21] <@MerryBossMan_> I don't like this truth.

[19:21] <MikeyMcScrooge> Attack Speed makes Speed look utterly useless.

[19:21] <TheDoc> What

[19:22] <@MerryBossMan_> ....

[19:22] <ZeroDXZ> @Mikey agreed

[19:22] <TheDoc> What about all the abilities you were complaining about in #6?

[19:22] <@MerryBossMan_> PFFF

[19:22] <TheDoc> Do ALL of those ignore speed?

[19:22] <@MerryBossMan_> Speed is what decided accuracy, and that's pretty big.

[19:22] <@MerryBossMan_> *decides

[19:22] <MikeyMcScrooge> They ignore Defense, actually.

[19:22] <MikeyMcScrooge> That shouldn't be happening, either.

[19:22] <IceTailsMK4> Speed determining accuracy...I hear about this, but I haven't noticed this, MBM.

[19:23] <TheDoc> My point is that Attack Speed isn't as broken as you're making it sound

[19:23] <MikeyMcScrooge> Yes, it is.

[19:23] <@MerryBossMan_> Mike, attack speed isn't broken.

[19:23] <MikeyMcScrooge> I can beat Tails in Player Battles.

[19:23] <ZeroDXZ> huh

[19:23] <MikeyMcScrooge> CRUSH Tails in Player Battles.

[19:23] <ZeroDXZ> actually re-reading the pastebin i have one more question Mikey

[19:23] <@MerryBossMan_> Speed doesn't do anything if it isn't powerful.

[19:23] <@MerryBossMan_> What did you tell me?

[19:23] <IceTailsMK4> Cause of Quick Boomerang. :P

[19:23] <MikeyMcScrooge> Nah.

[19:23] <MikeyMcScrooge> Other things, too.

[19:23] <@MerryBossMan_> "Think through the eyes of a newbie"

[19:23] <ZeroDXZ> What do you really mean by "Super Bosses?"

[19:24] <@MerryBossMan_> Quick Boomerang is utterly useless with starforce.

[19:24] <TheDoc> @Zero prior meetings

[19:24] <MikeyMcScrooge> No, TOP SPIN is utterly useless with Star Force.

[19:24] <MikeyMcScrooge> It's pathetically weak.

[19:24] <@MerryBossMan_> So is Quick Boomerang.

[19:24] <TheDoc> That is subjective

[19:24] <@MerryBossMan_> It's pathetically weak as well.

[19:24] <MikeyMcScrooge> Not with Star Force.

[19:24] <IceTailsMK4> Let's go over the abilities that have a higher attack speed than normal...

[19:24] <@MerryBossMan_> Plus, you know Tails?

[19:24] <TheDoc> Not subjective

[19:25] <@MerryBossMan_> His robots easily KO me with Top Spin.

[19:25] <TheDoc> It just has to do with luck lol

[19:25] <MikeyMcScrooge> ^

[19:25] <@MerryBossMan_> Plus, accuract.

[19:25] <IceTailsMK4> I can think of Quick Boomerang and Search Snake right off the bat.

[19:25] <IceTailsMK4> And Search Snake is weak atm.

[19:25] <MikeyMcScrooge> I'll do that for you.

[19:25] <@MerryBossMan_> Tails has 9999, so all it does is hit.

[19:25] <ZeroDXZ> ....

[19:25] <IceTailsMK4> Oil Slider is another possbility...

[19:26] <MikeyMcScrooge> Quick Boomerang, Search Snake, Oil Slider, Mecha Support, Field Support and  uhhhh,

[19:26] <@MerryBossMan_> Whatever.

[19:26] <IceTailsMK4> We won't consider the Supports.

[19:26] <MikeyMcScrooge> .......I know I'm missing one....

[19:26] <@MerryBossMan_> Let's move on, Adrian still has to read this.

[19:26] <IceTailsMK4> Let's bring this to the Xat chat, then.

[19:26] <@MerryBossMan_> Yeah, we'll argue later on Xat.

[19:26] <IceTailsMK4> Was there any other topic we wanted to talk about?

[19:26] <@MerryBossMan_> That's actually pretty smart Tails.

[19:26] <@MerryBossMan_> I have something.

[19:27] <@MerryBossMan_> Can I take the stand?

[19:27] <IceTailsMK4> If you push Mikey off, sure. lol

[19:27] <@MerryBossMan_> Whatever, I'm going up there.

[19:27] <MikeyMcScrooge> *steps down* I have to make the thread for this, anyway.

[19:27] <@MerryBossMan_> Alright then.

[19:27] <@MerryBossMan_> My topic?

[19:27] <@MerryBossMan_> Crash Bomber.

[19:27] <@MerryBossMan_> Look, here's the thing.

[19:28] <TheDoc> Does this have to do with Mikey's #6?

[19:28] <@MerryBossMan_> Crash Man is NOT a percent based-robot.

[19:28] <@MerryBossMan_> He's an attack robot.

[19:28] <@MerryBossMan_> So, Crash Bomber is pratically spitting on his attack stat.

[19:28] <@MerryBossMan_> I really wish we could revert it to the old way.

[19:28] <@MerryBossMan_> That way?

[19:28] <@MerryBossMan_> No percents.

[19:28] <IceTailsMK4> For me I've actually noticed that Crash Bomber does MORE damage as the defense of the target goes UP.

[19:29] <@MerryBossMan_> But Crash Man isn't that type of robot, Tails.

[19:29] <ZeroDXZ> ...

[19:29] <IceTailsMK4> I'm just saying why I hate the ability.

[19:29] <@MerryBossMan_> The older version took 5 turns, but had MASSIVE damage.

[19:29] <@MerryBossMan_> It was based on his attack stat.

[19:29] <IceTailsMK4> The current version now does MASSIVE damage in 3 turns.

[19:29] <@MerryBossMan_> And unless there was a glitch from the old system, I'd really prefer it if we just used that.

[19:30] <IceTailsMK4> I WISH I could see what the overkill is for a robot on my side that is defeated.

[19:30] <@MerryBossMan_> The 5 turns, damage based on attack was so much better.

[19:30] <@MerryBossMan_> Speaking of that, does Bomb Man need an affinity to Explode?

[19:30] <TheDoc> I feel like I addressed this a long time ago

[19:31] <@MerryBossMan_> Sorry then, Doc.

[19:31] <TheDoc> Namely about his Danger Bomb + his affinity

[19:31] <TheDoc> No no you're fine

[19:31] <@MerryBossMan_> Well, that was just a side-note.

[19:31] <@MerryBossMan_> Anyway, Zero?

[19:31] <@MerryBossMan_> Did you have something?

[19:31] <ZeroDXZ> *suddenly wakes up slamming my head on my desk&

[19:31] <ZeroDXZ> *

[19:31] <ZeroDXZ> ow

[19:32] <TheDoc> I gtg. C ya guys

[19:32] <MikeyMcScrooge> For easier access, Adrian, the Thread: http://rpg.megamanpoweredup.net/community/general/928/mikey-s-ideas-5-for-a-better-experience-for-all/

[19:32] <@MerryBossMan_> See you.

[19:32] <IceTailsMK4> I goofed on something I said earlier, but I'll talk about it in Xat.

[19:32] <MikeyMcScrooge> [he's not here, I know, but, he's reading this, and stuff.]

[19:33] <@MerryBossMan_> Shouldn't it be moved to Development though? :P

[19:33] <ZeroDXZ> ....

[19:33] <ZeroDXZ> uh

[19:33] <IceTailsMK4> I think we're done with the serious business aside from one thing...so I'll just transfer to Xat.

[19:33] <@MerryBossMan_> Yeah, Zero, go ahead.

[19:33] <ZeroDXZ> i...

[19:33] <ZeroDXZ> kinda had something

[19:34] <ZeroDXZ> ^ (this...again i'm sorry)

[19:34] <@MerryBossMan_> Just go ahead.

[19:34] <MikeyMcScrooge> Nah.

[19:34] <MikeyMcScrooge> It's ideas. Nothing permanent, yet.

[19:34] <@MerryBossMan_> I'll PB it.

[19:34] <ZeroDXZ> it involved the Rankings

[19:34] <@MerryBossMan_> Just go ahead.

[19:34] <IceTailsMK4> Oh?

[19:35] <ZeroDXZ> n...never mind..i saw something really *****d up

[19:35] <ZeroDXZ> on youtube

[19:35] <ZeroDXZ> and i forgot

[19:35] <@MerryBossMan_> Oh?

[19:35] <@MerryBossMan_> Alright then?

[19:35] <@MerryBossMan_> You can't remember it?

[19:35] <@MerryBossMan_> Cause I'm about to PB....

[19:36] == TheDoc [6320a70f@gateway/web/freenode/ip.99.32.167.15] has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds]

[19:36] <@MerryBossMan_> Alright, if it's done.

[19:36] <@MerryBossMan_> EVERYONE GET OUTTA HERE