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  1. %Symphonii: so we're doing mono UU.
  2. +Cracticus♬: i'm not even slacking, i'm always this bad
  3. feeeeebas was promoted to Room Voice by 6ti.
  4. +feeeeebas: helloes
  5. +Cracticus♬: i have to go to the dentist tell me how it goes
  6. %Symphonii: Currently thinking of Normal, any suggestions for other types?
  7. +torkool: dark
  8. +torkool: actually, I have to go out for a bit too, so ignore me
  9. @StarBlimツ: Uu grass is fun
  10. +Mateeus_1: go norm tho ;) now seriously, fire would be fun to do
  11. +Mateeus_1: without mega zard y
  12. @StarBlimツ: Allowed to be more offensive
  13. +gyffyrd: I gotta run to class, but I think grass or water would be neat
  14. +torkool: water with milotic as a core mon is fun
  15. +Mateeus_1: mega nette ghost too
  16. +gyffyrd: ^ I like that
  17. (The poll has ended – scroll down to see the results)
  18. (A poll was started by Symphonii.)
  19. @6ti: you dont need the brackets
  20. Invalid time given.
  21. %Symphonii: o rip
  22. (The poll timer was set to 1 minute(s) by Symphonii.)
  23. The poll timer was turned on: the poll will end in 1 minute(s).
  24. Poll ended [Which type for the UU CCAT?]
  25. 1. [Normal] (3 votes)
  26. 50%
  27. 2. [Water] (1 vote)
  28. 17%
  29. 3. [Dark] (0 votes)
  30. 0%
  31. 4. [Grass] (1 vote)
  32. 17%
  33. 5. [Fire] (0 votes)
  34. 0%
  35. 6. [M-Banette Ghost] (1 vote)
  36. 17%
  37. +Mateeus_1: rip
  38. %Symphonii: normal it is then.
  39. (The poll has ended – scroll down to see the results)
  40. (A poll was started by Symphonii.)
  41. StaraptorZachary was promoted to Room Voice by 6ti.
  42. (The poll timer was set to 1 minute(s) by Symphonii.)
  43. The poll timer was turned on: the poll will end in 1 minute(s).
  44. +feeeeebas: regigigas plz
  45. +Mateeus_1: 0 votes for balance
  46. +Mateeus_1: Yeeeey!
  47. %Symphonii: ahem
  48. @StarBlimツ: Offense is the best way imo to do normal in uu imo
  49. +Mateeus_1: ^^
  50. @6ti: imo twcie
  51. @StarBlimツ: Gdi
  52. +Hammy0: what r u builing
  53. Poll ended Playstyle
  54. 1. Offense (5 votes)
  55. 63%
  56. 2. Balance (1 vote)
  57. 13%
  58. 3. Stall (2 votes)
  59. 25%
  60. %Symphonii: Normal UU
  61. %Symphonii: So first for our hazard setter
  62. @StarBlimツ: Smeargle obviously
  63. +Mateeus_1: smeargle less offense imo ;^) tail wind mega pidg + SR support blissey
  64. +Mateeus_1: jk
  65. %Symphonii: Unless people actually want miltank :<
  66. @StarBlimツ: On offensive mat
  67. @StarBlimツ: Miltank os kinda garbage
  68. +Mateeus_1: Yeah, obv smeargle tho
  69. %Symphonii: So sticky web + sr
  70. @StarBlimツ: Webs rocks Spore
  71. @6ti: Dark void
  72. +Mateeus_1: Dark Void and Nuzzle/Magic Coat imo
  73. @StarBlimツ: Well void can be used
  74. @StarBlimツ: Sknce grass is more prominent in uu
  75. +feeeeebas: it's either spore or void right
  76. @6ti: yes
  77. %Symphonii: so dark void + nuzzle
  78. @6ti: i use dark void in all tiers
  79. %Symphonii: or should we go magic coat?
  80. @6ti: why are we using nuzzle
  81. @6ti: taunt, magic coat
  82. +Mateeus_1: or whirlwind tbh
  83. +Mateeus_1: to stop setuppers
  84. +Mateeus_1: that setup in 1st turn
  85. +Mateeus_1: (like sub ones)
  86. +feeeeebas: we can change the set later I guess, depending on the other mons
  87. +Trainer Geoffery: im sad ;-; cant be part of the CCAT
  88. @StarBlimツ: Taunt magic coat or dbond are col
  89. @StarBlimツ: As last spot
  90. The command "/poll create," does not exist. To send a message starting with "/poll create,", type "//poll create,".
  91. +Mateeus_1: geoff, obv u can
  92. +feeeeebas: Geoff you gtg somewhere?
  93. +Trainer Geoffery: afk
  94. (The poll has ended – scroll down to see the results)
  95. (A poll was started by Symphonii.)
  96. (The poll timer was set to 1 minute(s) by Symphonii.)
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  98. @StarBlimツ: All are good s
  99. +Mateeus_1: inb4 tie
  100. Poll ended Last move on smeargle
  101. 1. Taunt (3 votes)
  102. 43%
  103. 2. DBond (2 votes)
  104. 29%
  105. 3. Magic coat (1 vote)
  106. 14%
  107. 4. whirlwind (1 vote)
  108. 14%
  109. +Mateeus_1: ded chat
  110. +feeeeebas: yay taunt is win
  111. %Symphonii: so onto the next mon
  112. +Mateeus_1: Specs modest pory-z for that nuke :s
  113. @StarBlimツ: Pz is kinda awful
  114. %Symphonii: specs meloetta?
  115. @StarBlimツ: Esp if you can have melo
  116. +Mateeus_1: Not really. gets lots of coverage with download :^)
  117. +Mateeus_1: but yeah, mel can also be nice
  118. +Mateeus_1: also exploud
  119. @StarBlimツ: melo is the best Spa mono thats not pid
  120. +feeeeebas: specsploud?
  121. @6ti: Well
  122. @6ti: only mega on offense is Pidgeot
  123. %Symphonii: the mega is obv gonna be pidg
  124. +feeeeebas: rip lopunnite
  125. %Symphonii: any other suggestions?
  126. @StarBlimツ: Who says we cant use offensive audino
  127. @StarBlimツ: :x
  128. %Symphonii: Ah no.
  129. +Mateeus_1: or mega-less imo
  130. +Hammy0: lets run
  131. @6ti: why megaless
  132. @StarBlimツ: Its a thing in nu ;-;
  133. @6ti: that doesn't make any sense
  134. +Hammy0: dual dance
  135. +Hammy0: porygon
  136. +feeeeebas: Megaless can work. It won't pinhole the team so much
  137. %Symphonii: mega pidgeot is great. no point in not using it
  138. @StarBlimツ: Nasty plot+Agil pz idk
  139. +Hammy0: ye
  140. +Hammy0: tri attaack n shadow ball
  141. Poll 2nd mon
  142. 1. specs meloetta (5 votes)
  143. 56%
  144. 2. porygonz (4 votes)
  145. 44%
  146. (A poll was started by Symphonii.)
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  149. +Trainer Geoffery: i swear i NEVER get to help out with the ccats
  150. @6ti: you're here right now
  151. +Trainer Geoffery: yea for like 2 seconds
  152. +Mateeus_1: tie?
  153. Poll ended 2nd mon
  154. 1. specs meloetta (5 votes)
  155. 56%
  156. 2. porygonz (4 votes)
  157. 44%
  158. +Mateeus_1: no
  159. %Symphonii: so psyshock, hyper voice, energy ball
  160. %Symphonii: then either shadow ball or dazzling gleam
  161. @6ti: Psychic
  162. @6ti: serene grace is a fun ability
  163. +feeeeebas: question. how do you decide what coverage to run?
  164. @StarBlimツ: ^^^
  165. @6ti: based on coverage that you lack elsewhere
  166. +Mateeus_1: Why not focus blast? to hit steel and rock types SE with dem specs?
  167. @6ti: or stacking coverage to hit threats
  168. @StarBlimツ: Psy imo is a tad better on melo
  169. +feeeeebas: aha so that's why you run psychic over psyshock
  170. %Symphonii: or focus blast, yeah
  171. +feeeeebas: cuz of the 10%
  172. @StarBlimツ: Fb is nice
  173. %Symphonii: so psychic, hyper voice, focus blast
  174. +feeeeebas: inb4 focus miss
  175. @StarBlimツ: I don't use hyervoice ever tbh
  176. @6ti: do we need hyper voice? there's going to be normal stab elsewhere, i think
  177. +Mateeus_1: and idk about eball tbh... Hyper Voice hits most things it would hit for good damage, but I don't remember of the banlise
  178. +feeeeebas: isn't it standard on meloetta
  179. +Hammy0: dude
  180. +Hammy0: lets run
  181. +Hammy0: relic song
  182. @StarBlimツ: Eball is actually useful
  183. +Hammy0: !!
  184. @StarBlimツ: Lmao
  185. +feeeeebas: relic song specs meloetta new meta
  186. +Mateeus_1: relic song xD
  187. +Hammy0: obvioslly
  188. +Hammy0: not specs
  189. @6ti: well
  190. @6ti: what does eball hit
  191. +feeeeebas: relic song meloetta as the star of the team would be interesting
  192. +Hammy0: mhm its actually underated as F
  193. %Symphonii: it gets tbolt as well, so
  194. @6ti: ground rock and water, i dont think any of those are super common
  195. @6ti: in uu
  196. @StarBlimツ: Its actually bad
  197. +feeeeebas: it is
  198. +feeeeebas: it's a compromise
  199. +Hammy0: i peaked with itonce
  200. +Hammy0: lol
  201. @StarBlimツ: Water is used
  202. +feeeeebas: with a physical or mixed set?
  203. @StarBlimツ: Tho rbolts probably better tbh
  204. %Symphonii: we'll keep hyper voice for now, maybe replace it later or something
  205. There is no poll running in this room.
  206. +feeeeebas: Hyper Voice probably useful for subbers which regular normal stab has trouble with
  207. +feeeeebas: which are not named sableye
  208. @StarBlimツ: Its not really
  209. (The poll has ended – scroll down to see the results)
  210. (A poll was started by Symphonii.)
  211. @StarBlimツ: Normal stab isnt all that great tbh
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  214. @StarBlimツ: also tricks and option
  215. @StarBlimツ: Over voice
  216. +feeeeebas: haha oh yeah!
  217. +feeeeebas: good ol' trick
  218. +Mateeus_1: To be honest, HVoice might be useful for hitting things under sub and neutral coverage
  219. %Symphonii: imo we might need either dazzling or trick for sableye
  220. Poll ended Last move on meloetta
  221. 1. thunderbolt (1 vote)
  222. 13%
  223. 2. energy ball (0 votes)
  224. 0%
  225. 3. dazzling gleam (4 votes)
  226. 50%
  227. 4. shadow ball (3 votes)
  228. 38%
  229. +StaraptorZachary: Dazzling because dem Sableyes
  230. +feeeeebas: I voted dazzling since no fairy stab
  231. %Symphonii: let's keep hyper voice aside for now
  232. +Mateeus_1: tbh, I think we break most walls in offense playstyle, so idk if trick is that much needed
  233. @StarBlimツ: Its not fairy stab?
  234. %Symphonii: so for physical offensive presence
  235. +feeeeebas: dazzling is not stab is it
  236. @6ti: No
  237. +StaraptorZachary: Nope
  238. @6ti: No
  239. +StaraptorZachary: Nope
  240. @6ti: !learn meloetta, uturn
  241. In Gen 6, Meloetta can learn U-turn from:
  242. anywhere (all moves are level-up/tutor/TM/HM in gen 6)
  243. +feeeeebas: since I is assuming we is not using M-Audino
  244. @StarBlimツ: Also yea uturn is nice
  245. @StarBlimツ: Theyres alot of good options fir melo drop voice
  246. +feeeeebas: Meloetta has a big movepool, maybe we keep her options open and pick the other mons first
  247. +Mateeus_1: ^^
  248. @StarBlimツ: We could sure
  249. @6ti: thats up to symphonii
  250. +feeeeebas: yerp
  251. %Symphonii: zangoose, snorlax, tauros, ambipom
  252. +Mateeus_1: braviary, swellow, stoutland
  253. %Symphonii: and those
  254. @StarBlimツ: Zang is pretty fun
  255. +Mateeus_1: cinccino too
  256. @StarBlimツ: Used it b4 just a lik worse then diggers
  257. +feeeeebas: for weak armor mons
  258. @6ti: lisk
  259. @StarBlimツ: lil
  260. +Mateeus_1: also slaking
  261. +Mateeus_1: jkkj
  262. +feeeeebas: lol
  263. @StarBlimツ: Swords dance Cc Facade quick atk koff or protect are all good fillers
  264. +Mateeus_1: Ursaring could be neat, especially since we're under webs
  265. @StarBlimツ: Yea it could
  266. (The poll has ended – scroll down to see the results)
  267. (A poll was started by Symphonii.)
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  270. @StarBlimツ: Like both zang and ursa
  271. @StarBlimツ: Why did u put snolax on there?
  272. +DISTROBRO: i was going to ask that
  273. +Mateeus_1: LOL me too
  274. +Mateeus_1: slow as hell
  275. @StarBlimツ: Its not offensive
  276. %Symphonii: wait
  277. +Mateeus_1: scarf snorlax new meta
  278. @6ti: Snorlax is a defensive wincon
  279. %Symphonii: o rip forgot to delete lax
  280. %Symphonii: we could still go cb tho
  281. Poll ended Physical attacker
  282. 1. Zangoose (3 votes)
  283. 33%
  284. 2. Tauros (1 vote)
  285. 11%
  286. 3. Ambipom (0 votes)
  287. 0%
  288. 4. Braviary (2 votes)
  289. 22%
  290. 5. Snorlax (3 votes)
  291. 33%
  292. +feeeeebas: zang it is then?
  293. %Symphonii: probably need to re poll
  294. @StarBlimツ: Want me to do it?
  295. %Symphonii: gonna add ursaring as well
  296. +Mateeus_1: lemon juice cup as always
  297. %Symphonii: nah I'll do it
  298. (The poll has ended – scroll down to see the results)
  299. (A poll was started by Symphonii.)
  300. @6ti: 3rd...
  301. @StarBlimツ: Snorlax again?
  302. @StarBlimツ: What
  303. +Mateeus_1: WOW!
  304. +Mateeus_1: xd
  305. %Symphonii: well it tied with zangoose
  306. %Symphonii: so might as well
  307. +feeeeebas: everyone loves snorlax
  308. @StarBlimツ: Its ass
  309. @StarBlimツ: Lol
  310. +feeeeebas: new meme
  311. @StarBlimツ: Lets hope zang wins
  312. +Mateeus_1: zang wins
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  315. +feeeeebas: Munchlax is one of my fav mons in LC.
  316. %Symphonii: so knock off, close combat, facade, swords dance
  317. @StarBlimツ: Yea good set
  318. @6ti: wdym its ass
  319. Poll ended 2nd mon
  320. 1. Snorlax (2 votes)
  321. 29%
  322. 2. Zangoose (4 votes)
  323. 57%
  324. 3. Ursaring (1 vote)
  325. 14%
  326. +Mateeus_1: quick attack could be useful too
  327. +Mateeus_1: for prio
  328. @StarBlimツ: On offensive?
  329. @6ti: it doesnt fit this job
  330. @6ti: People use cm clef on offense
  331. @6ti: is clef offensive by nature? no
  332. @StarBlimツ: Wth lo
  333. @StarBlimツ: Plus curse on offense
  334. @StarBlimツ: Isnt good with webs at all
  335. @6ti: okay that's true but
  336. @6ti: lo clef
  337. +Mateeus_1: LO Magic Guard :^)
  338. @StarBlimツ: Clef and lax are different tho
  339. +Mateeus_1: tankfable
  340. %Symphonii: mega pidgeot hurri uturn roost heat wave
  341. @StarBlimツ: With set up and stats
  342. @StarBlimツ: Yep
  343. +feeeeebas: is toxic orb standard for zangoose?
  344. @StarBlimツ: Yes
  345. %Symphonii: mostly, yes
  346. +StaraptorZachary: Yep
  347. +Mateeus_1: tbh, defog > roost in case we don't get to setup hazards
  348. %Symphonii: http://piratepad.net/vgVJtwkPJf
  349. @StarBlimツ: We kinda dont wanna remove webs mat
  350. %Symphonii: yeah probably gonna keep roost
  351. +feeeeebas: M-pidgey as a defogger seems a waste
  352. @StarBlimツ: Its not awful on bal
  353. @StarBlimツ: Just this isn't bal
  354. +feeeeebas: but shouldn't it be out trying to KO everything
  355. +Mateeus_1: its usable in teams with no raptor in reg
  356. @StarBlimツ: offensive defog is good
  357. @6ti: we dont want defog on webs offense
  358. @StarBlimツ: Latios for example
  359. @StarBlimツ: ^^
  360. +feeeeebas: so roost it is
  361. @StarBlimツ: Yea but not on offense
  362. @StarBlimツ: Webs offense
  363. +feeeeebas: we wants teh interwebs.
  364. %Symphonii: any suggestions for the fifth?
  365. +feeeeebas: A bulky tank?
  366. +Mateeus_1: I'd say we need a scarfer for rkilling and working outside of webs too
  367. @6ti: offense
  368. %Symphonii: tauros isnt half bad
  369. %Symphonii: especially under webs
  370. @StarBlimツ: Its actually awful
  371. @StarBlimツ: I mean
  372. @StarBlimツ: Theyres helio
  373. @StarBlimツ: Theres*
  374. +Mateeus_1: scarf helio :^)
  375. +Mateeus_1: jkjk
  376. %Symphonii: for the scarfer, maybe helio or poryz
  377. @StarBlimツ: Thats actually what o was thinking lol
  378. @StarBlimツ: helio is better since good with pid making volt turn core
  379. +Mateeus_1: ^^
  380. +Mateeus_1: And we can complete that core by adding a Ambipom/Cincinno/random u-turner in last slot ^^
  381. @StarBlimツ: M
  382. @StarBlimツ: No tbh
  383. @StarBlimツ: we have turn pid
  384. @StarBlimツ: Thats good enough
  385. @StarBlimツ: And p2 is stil nice as a bukky back bone
  386. @6ti: ?
  387. %Symphonii: it is banned.
  388. +feeeeebas: p2 is not in UU
  389. @StarBlimツ: It gkt banned
  390. @StarBlimツ: Rip af
  391. +feeeeebas: the whole standard normal defensive core got banned
  392. %Symphonii: defiant braviary
  393. +Mateeus_1: that seems nice actually, for threathening the deffogers out there
  394. +feeeeebas: yes
  395. @StarBlimツ: Yea i dont mid braviary
  396. @StarBlimツ: Cb?
  397. +feeeeebas: how do you tell who's a good threat vs defog?
  398. +Mateeus_1: I think so
  399. @StarBlimツ: Huh? .
  400. %Symphonii: mostly band, yeah.
  401. %Symphonii: though choice scarf is still an option
  402. %Symphonii: though we could save the scarfer for the last slot
  403. +Mateeus_1: well, we're running scarf helio though
  404. +Mateeus_1: o nvm
  405. +Mateeus_1: though we were
  406. +feeeeebas: I also thought we has scarf helio
  407. %Symphonii: still kinda torn between helio and poryz as the scarfer
  408. %Symphonii: since poryz hits harder and has great coverage
  409. +Mateeus_1: yeah, couples with dem download, but no momentum ;-;
  410. @StarBlimツ: Surf tbolt Volt hp ice
  411. @StarBlimツ: grass knot
  412. @StarBlimツ: Fb
  413. @StarBlimツ: It has really good coverage
  414. %Symphonii: so for braviary, uturn, brave bird
  415. +Mateeus_1: superpower, thrash or return
  416. @StarBlimツ: Superpower bb return uturn
  417. +Mateeus_1: rock slide tho
  418. +Mateeus_1: jk
  419. @StarBlimツ: Could be ok
  420. @StarBlimツ: Since fires good
  421. @StarBlimツ: And idk if zards banned
  422. +Mateeus_1: Yeah, but most of it return and bb hits harder
  423. +feeeeebas: I've never seen thrash competitively
  424. %Symphonii: brave bird does more than rock slide anyway
  425. +Mateeus_1: thrash would serve as a pseudo outrage, wallbreaking while not taking recoil if we use it
  426. %Symphonii: zard is banned, yes
  427. +Mateeus_1: and we get stab on it
  428. +feeeeebas: yeah... I was under the impression that it's no outrage, cuz of a meh typing
  429. ThrashNormalPhysicalPower
  430. 120Accuracy
  431. 100%PP
  432. 16Lasts 2-3 turns. Confuses the user afterwards.
  433. Priority: 0 |  Gen: 1 |  Contest Condition: Tough |  ✓ Contact |  Target: Unknown
  434. @StarBlimツ: Well yea then that sets fine
  435. %Symphonii: return or thrash?
  436. @StarBlimツ: Return
  437. +Mateeus_1: I'd go return
  438. +feeeeebas: return
  439. +StaraptorZachary: Return
  440. @StarBlimツ: Being locked sucks
  441. +Mateeus_1: ^^
  442. +StaraptorZachary: ^^^
  443. +feeeeebas: yeah. Gives a free switch
  444. +feeeeebas: Hello Sableye
  445. %Symphonii: so we're using helio as the scarfer, yes
  446. %Symphonii: ?
  447. %Symphonii: though I'm still leaning towards poryz
  448. @StarBlimツ: Why?
  449. +feeeeebas: Download can be fickle, right?
  450. +Mateeus_1: Tbh, helio b/c momentum imo
  451. +Mateeus_1: but p-z hits much harder with download
  452. (The poll has ended – scroll down to see the results)
  453. (A poll was started by Symphonii.)
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  456. @StarBlimツ: And it it has just as good coverage
  457. @StarBlimツ: Hitting hard inst really a scarfers role anyway
  458. @StarBlimツ: Thats just a plus
  459. %Symphonii: helio it is
  460. +Mateeus_1: It kinda is. Hitting hard and fast are advantages for a scarf, but momentum is also one ^^
  461. Poll ended Choice Scarfer
  462. 1. Heliolisk (3 votes)
  463. 75%
  464. 2. Porygon Z (1 vote)
  465. 25%
  466. +feeeeebas: How much does defensive typing matter in an offensive team?
  467. %Symphonii: dry skin or solar power?
  468. +Mateeus_1: dry skin
  469. @StarBlimツ: Dry skin
  470. +feeeeebas: I voted helio so we can have more switching options
  471. +StaraptorZachary: Dry Skin
  472. +Mateeus_1: ez MU vs. Water
  473. +Mateeus_1: :)
  474. %Symphonii: v switch focus blast surf
  475. %Symphonii: tbolt?
  476. @StarBlimツ: Yea
  477. +Mateeus_1: tbh, focus blast feels redundant
  478. +Mateeus_1: we have fb mel, cc zang, spower brav
  479. @StarBlimツ: Could use hp ice
  480. +Mateeus_1: I'd go HP Ice on that slot
  481. +Mateeus_1: sniped by a juice cup lol
  482. +Mateeus_1: jkjk
  483. +feeeeebas: damn, didn't know there was threat
  484. %Symphonii: http://hastebin.com/yevorilaxo.diff
  485. %Symphonii: So who's up for testing?
  486. +Mateeus_1: me
  487. @StarBlimツ: Yes mat
  488. @StarBlimツ: Chall
  489. +Mateeus_1: oh hanni, chall cjl
  490. %Symphonii: http://play.pokemonshowdown.com/battle-monotype-457091702
  491. %Symphonii: anyone else?
  492. %Symphonii: mat wanna use it?
  493. +Mateeus_1: I can, just recovered it
  494. +Mateeus_1: (my existing team)
  495. %Symphonii: I'll make a dark team ral quick
  496. %Symphonii: *real
  497. +Mateeus_1: can't we use it on regular ladder though
  498. +Mateeus_1: ?
  499. %Symphonii: we made this specifically for UU
  500. +Mateeus_1: oh so only uu tests are allowed?
  501. %Symphonii: yep
  502. @StarBlimツ: Ill vs u with ghost
  503. %Symphonii: http://play.pokemonshowdown.com/battle-monotype-457097011
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