15:03 - [TF2Center] MasterNoob: hi there
15:03 - [TF2Center] MasterNoob: need a word
15:03 - TC Oxy: hi
15:03 - [TF2Center] MasterNoob: get back to me after your match ;-)
15:03 - TC Oxy: tis ok
15:03 - TC Oxy: was flobby
15:03 - TC Oxy: wassup
15:03 - [TF2Center] MasterNoob: i have seen you creating lobbies using your own voice comms
15:03 - [TF2Center] MasterNoob: whats up with that?
15:03 - TC Oxy: well
15:04 - TC Oxy: TC is a community
15:04 - TC Oxy: we like to hang out together in mumble
15:04 - TC Oxy: we dont set mumble as required so
15:04 - TC Oxy: thing is we want to talk with eachother
15:04 - TC Oxy: but the only way to do that in tf2center mumble is to stack an entire team
15:04 - TC Oxy: but we dont want to be dicks and do that
15:05 - TC Oxy: if that makes any sense :)
15:05 - [TF2Center] MasterNoob: well, from a tf2center perspective, you kinda are ;-)
15:05 - TC Oxy: how?
15:05 - [TF2Center] MasterNoob: well
15:05 - [TF2Center] MasterNoob: we provide infrastructure
15:06 - [TF2Center] MasterNoob: which includes the leaders game server and our own mumble server
15:06 - [TF2Center] MasterNoob: altho you set mumble not to be required, you still use comms
15:06 - TC Oxy: if we were setting it to mumble required and then forcing people in our mumble then i would get your point
15:06 - [TF2Center] MasterNoob: and need to do all kinds of stuff to get non TC people to your TS server
15:06 - [TF2Center] MasterNoob: which is not helping much
15:06 - TC Oxy: wat
15:06 - TC Oxy: TS?
15:06 - [TF2Center] MasterNoob: teamspeak right?
15:07 - TC Oxy: no
15:07 - TC Oxy: we use mumble
15:07 - [TF2Center] MasterNoob: or you're using mumble as well?
15:07 - [TF2Center] MasterNoob: well, anywya
15:07 - [TF2Center] MasterNoob: you need to tell people to switch mumble
15:07 - [TF2Center] MasterNoob: which they dont understand etc
15:07 - [TF2Center] MasterNoob: and for a good reason
15:07 - TC Oxy: not really, we are just being kind and inviting them in
15:07 - TC Oxy: we normally have like 14 people of the 18 in our mumble like last night
15:07 - [TF2Center] MasterNoob: thats not how i see it
15:07 - TC Oxy: just seems rude not to invite the other 4
15:07 - [TF2Center] MasterNoob: so here is my suggestion
15:08 - [TF2Center] MasterNoob: when you play scrims, please use your own comms
15:08 - [TF2Center] MasterNoob: do whatever you want
15:08 - [TF2Center] MasterNoob: however
15:08 - [TF2Center] MasterNoob: when putting up lobbies, use the regular infrastructure, as desired
15:08 - TC Oxy: why?
15:08 - [TF2Center] MasterNoob: like i said
15:08 - TC Oxy: i dont really get your point
15:08 - [TF2Center] MasterNoob: read it again
15:08 - [TF2Center] MasterNoob: its about expectations
15:08 - TC Oxy: it doesnt make any sense
15:08 - [TF2Center] MasterNoob: it does
15:09 - [TF2Center] MasterNoob: this is not about technicalities
15:09 - TC Oxy: i dont really get where your coming from
15:09 - TC Oxy: we're not breaking any rules of tf2center
15:10 - [TF2Center] MasterNoob: dude
15:10 - [TF2Center] MasterNoob: i make the rules
15:10 - [TF2Center] MasterNoob: im telling you to stop it
15:10 - [TF2Center] MasterNoob: im asking you nicely
15:10 - TC Oxy: not really
15:10 - [TF2Center] MasterNoob: trust me, i am
15:10 - TC Oxy: we are just hanging out together playing games
15:11 - [TF2Center] MasterNoob: you cannot explain me why putting your own mumble would make sense
15:11 - [TF2Center] MasterNoob: thats cool
15:11 - [TF2Center] MasterNoob: dont use tf2center
15:11 - TC Oxy: what?
15:11 - TC Oxy: TC community wants to hang out together in mumble
15:11 - [TF2Center] MasterNoob: cool
15:11 - [TF2Center] MasterNoob: dont use tf2center
15:11 - TC Oxy: why?
15:11 - [TF2Center] MasterNoob: if you play on tf2center, use tf2center mumble
15:11 - [TF2Center] MasterNoob: like anybody else
15:12 - [TF2Center] MasterNoob: its a little trouble to click a button designed to make things easy for you
15:12 - [TF2Center] MasterNoob: this is my final answer
15:12 - [TF2Center] MasterNoob: i expect you do act so
15:12 - [TF2Center] MasterNoob: *to
15:12 - TC Oxy: but then we cant talk to our TC people on the other team?
15:12 - [TF2Center] MasterNoob: why would you?
15:12 - [TF2Center] MasterNoob: you're playing a lobby
15:12 - TC Oxy: we are not selecting mumble required, if we didnt come mumble no-one would complain anyway
15:13 - [TF2Center] MasterNoob: you're creating your own community within tf2center
15:13 - [TF2Center] MasterNoob: that is annoying for the rest of the team who has no clue
15:13 - TC Oxy: the community exists outside of tf2center
15:13 - [TF2Center] MasterNoob: if you want to hang out with TC, arrange your own lobbies
15:13 - [TF2Center] MasterNoob: dont use tf2center
15:13 - [TF2Center] MasterNoob: if you play with us, use our infrastructure
15:13 - [TF2Center] MasterNoob: thats the third time, it should be clear now
15:14 - TC Oxy: no
15:14 - TC Oxy: that doesnt make any logical sense
15:14 - [TF2Center] MasterNoob: im sorry
15:14 - [TF2Center] MasterNoob: you will have to live with that
15:14 - TC Oxy: what about if we just dont ask other people to join mumble?
15:15 - TC Oxy: i.e. randomers
15:15 - [TF2Center] MasterNoob: what about you're not putting up lobbies on tf2center?
15:15 - TC Oxy: have you heard yourself?
15:15 - [TF2Center] MasterNoob: im a bit tired of this discussion
15:16 - [TF2Center] MasterNoob: go create your own tf2center, you can define your own rules xD
15:16 - [TF2Center] MasterNoob: you're on my turf now, here are my rules
15:16 - TC Oxy: wow
15:16 - TC Oxy: you realise your suppose to make the tf2center for the COMMUNITY
15:16 - [TF2Center] MasterNoob: yep
15:16 - [TF2Center] MasterNoob: and we cant have 15.000 exceptions to the rule
15:16 - TC Oxy: to what rule?
15:16 - [TF2Center] MasterNoob: so this is to make it simple for all
15:16 - TC Oxy: we havent been breaking any rules
15:17 - [TF2Center] MasterNoob: dude
15:17 - [TF2Center] MasterNoob: for fucks sake
15:17 - [TF2Center] MasterNoob: do you want me to block your servers IP?
15:17 - [TF2Center] MasterNoob: dont get me pissed off right now
15:17 - [TF2Center] MasterNoob: you have given me ZERO reason to use your own mumble
15:17 - TC Oxy: what?
15:17 - [TF2Center] MasterNoob: and yet you keep on debating
15:18 - [TF2Center] MasterNoob: wasting my time
15:18 - TC Oxy: you literally are not reading anything i write
15:18 - [TF2Center] MasterNoob: cya oxy