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  1. [14:24] &Vinc2612: someone in the losers bracker needs two wins
  2. [14:24] &Vinc2612: to compete with someone in the winner bracket
  3. [14:24] &Vinc2612: so what about giving points every other round?
  4. [14:25] +boltsandbombers: hm, what we decided for the single elim tours was just using the slam point system
  5. [14:25] +boltsandbombers: I'm not sure if the double elim tours should be equal to or count more than the single elims
  6. [14:26] +boltsandbombers: I can give you links to the tour and spreadsheet if that will help
  7. [14:26] &Vinc2612: why not
  8. [14:27] &Vinc2612: do they have the same amount of players?
  9. [14:27] +boltsandbombers: cycle 1 and 2 had 128, 3 has 96
  10. [14:28] &Vinc2612: 1 and 2 are single elim?
  11. [14:28] +boltsandbombers: 1 and 3 are single
  12. [14:29] +boltsandbombers: ok so for example http://www.smogon.com/forums/threads/the-never-used-league-2-cycle-2-grand-finals-won-by-ice-tea.3578055/
  13. [14:29] +boltsandbombers: flcl made it to grand finals but he was in the losers bracket for some of the rounds, should he receive less pts than someone who won a game in the winners bracket
  14. [14:31] &Vinc2612: but he played more battles
  15. [14:31] &Vinc2612: so I don't think so
  16. [14:31] &Vinc2612: I'd probably give points in every round with winner bracket
  17. [14:32] &Vinc2612: if FLCL lost the first Bo3, I'd give him the points of a semi-finalist
  18. [14:32] &Vinc2612: otherwise, a finalist
  19. [14:33] +boltsandbombers: I thought that points werent supposed to be cumulative; flcl won the cycle 1 finals and got 11 points, should he have gotten 38?
  20. [14:34] &Vinc2612: why 38?
  21. [14:35] +boltsandbombers: https://puu.sh/qWuu4/c1ab9070be.png
  22. [14:35] +boltsandbombers: if you add up all the point values in the 128 row
  23. [14:36] &Vinc2612: no 11 is fine
  24. [14:36] &Vinc2612: but what I mean is that a round "loser bracket only" shouldn't worth any point
  25. [14:36] &Vinc2612: since winner bracket doesn't get the chance to get those points
  26. [14:36] &Vinc2612: and since every other round, everyone plays
  27. [14:37] &Vinc2612: there you get your 1/1/1/2/2/2/2 points
  28. [14:37] +boltsandbombers: oh ok so you can only get points during the rounds where both winners and losers bracket play?
  29. [14:37] &Vinc2612: yes
  30. [14:37] &Vinc2612: that's probably the most practical
  31. [14:38] &Vinc2612: it still gives you a reason to play in the loser bracket
  32. [14:38] +boltsandbombers: gotcha, I guess it'll just take a lot more time to score double elim then
  33. [14:38] &Vinc2612: but you won't have any edge over the winner one
  34. [14:38] &Vinc2612: only from the moment you lose
  35. [14:38] &Vinc2612: which also makes sense
  36. [14:38] +boltsandbombers: so should I still follow the slam point system for double elim?
  37. [14:40] &Vinc2612: yes
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