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[12:48 PM] Joycap: Oh, I see you changed your profile pic from the 'pink guy'. What was that from, anyway?
[12:48 PM] Joycap: Anywho - I'm guessing you've seen this: http://www.smogon.com/forums/threads/sm-ou-viability-ranking-thread.3590726/page-95#post-7460203
[12:49 PM] Gary: yes
[12:49 PM] Joycap: And... what do you think. Is it a 'better' post at least?
[12:51 PM] Gary: yeah i mean u basically restated what was already known about camel but sure
[12:51 PM] Joycap: I don't normally regurgitate stuff, but it seemed to gain more traction so idk
[12:54 PM] Joycap: Besides, regarding the lurk mores:

I feel as though it would be better if you gave / reccomended people some kind of scource they could look at, if you were to give others a LM infraction. In the back of my mind - the current template for LM infractions are given out come across as if you're telling people to 'git gud', and I don't think that's constructive
[12:54 PM] Joycap: might just be me
[12:54 PM] Gary: i literally dont tell people to get good
[12:55 PM] Gary: and i normally do give them sources
[12:55 PM] Joycap: Like...?
[12:55 PM] Gary: you know all the resources already so why should i have to tell everytime
[12:57 PM] Joycap: fair point. I'm just thinking back to when I got an infraction on the ORAS MSab thread (where I had no idea what I was on about lol). Maybe Celtic (the mod who gave me my first one) could have guided me to the meta discussion thread / VR rankings or something? That was then, I know - but...
[12:57 PM] Gary: so this applies to me as a moderator how?
[12:57 PM] Gary: if u have an issue with celtic than tell him about it
[12:58 PM] Joycap: Sorry. Maybe I should reword that somehow
[12:58 PM] Joycap: 1 sec
[12:58 PM] Gary: n you're basically saying that instead of handing out lurk more we should guide them in the right direction
[12:58 PM] Gary: which we normally do
[12:58 PM] Gary: and ive done for u countless of times
[12:59 PM] Gary: but ig i need to keep doing it ?_?
[1:00 PM] Joycap: http://www.smogon.com/forums/threads/garys-vr-fit.3604620/ note the infraction message you gave me. You gave me no scources to anything, and on a couple of occasions - I had to ask WHY my post was deleted / in more detail why I ended up with said slap on the wrist, which happened seperately to the main message (Noteable example being the 'Skarm for B-' fiasco)
[1:01 PM] Gary: again
[1:01 PM] Gary: why do i have to give u sources everytime
[1:01 PM] Gary: when u already know the,
[1:02 PM] Gary: this is just another excuse to try and cover up your mistakes by questioning our moderation
[1:02 PM] Gary: even tho everything we've done has been 100% in the right and has been verified by upper staff
[1:03 PM] Gary: normally it doesn't take me having to hand out multiple lurk mores as well as linking the same resources 3-4 times
[1:03 PM] Gary: to the same person
[1:03 PM] Joycap: whateves. This is going round in circles anyway. Later
[1:05 PM] Gary: it's not going around in circles u just refuse to reflect on your past acitons and always find someone else to blame for them
[1:05 PM] Gary: like this stuff has happened ages ago and has been resolved by several people so why u keep bringing it up to prove no point idk
[1:05 PM] Gary: u asked for my opinion on your post and i gave it to u
[1:06 PM] Joycap: Well why did I bring up the MSab thing? I know I screwed up there
[1:06 PM] Gary: but you didn't get the response you were looking for so instead u decided to complain about it(edited)
[1:08 PM] Gary: if u are looking for constructive critisicm on your posts than keep messaging me  but clearly u dont want that u just want praise so idk why u bother to PM me(edited)
[1:10 PM] Gary: like im just being honest, and if I feed bullshit into people's mouth when they ask me for an opinion im not doing my job as a moderator
[1:11 PM] Joycap: sure
[1:11 PM] Gary: lmao
[1:13 PM] Gary: u dont have to agree but that's just the way it is
[1:15 PM] Gary: if u are looking for a less brutally honest opinion because u dont really want to listen to the facts id advise u try your luck with another mod
[1:16 PM] Gary: but if u are looking to better yourself and dont mind constructive criticism by all means(edited)
[1:17 PM] Joycap: Right, sorry. It's just a combonation of 'can be abrasive' and you seem to come off as a little dismissive. Anyway, that's enough for now
[1:18 PM] Gary: obviously if u continue to make the same mistakes and not really listen to my advice im going to start getting a little frustrated and begin to be dismissive im a human being afterall(edited)
[1:19 PM] Joycap: It's the species we all are, sir