Apropos response to http://pastebin.com/fNj0VFbW
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My record with epicsean368

2 mutual wins

3 mutual losses

4 wins against

3 losses against

that equates to 12 games total and 6 wins when he's in the game

not only is my winrate higher playing without him (66%) but we lose more together than we win together

also if you're going to bother writing a bin you should actually take the time to read the games because if you had you'd easily be able to work through my thought process, trace my reads and reasons for having them, and understand why I make the decisions that I do

as for playing with sean he's just a young kid and he's nice to play with, I barely know him as evidenced in the games and he just played at the same times I played (I played two long streak of games that he joined to play with me). I just normally play based on reading peoples emotions/tones and wind up towntelling in the same way, that's what makes it easy for me to read epicsean most of the time because he's not the most emotionally nuanced player so he often finds it hard to force towntells as mafia and in converse shits towntells when he's actually town

there's no cheating here and that much should be obvious from not only the record, but actually reading the games themselves.
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https://epicmafia.com/game/5784458/review -

going into this game epicsean didn't even know who I was

01:26  Apropos
hi epicsean368
01:27  Apropos
it's I, bonk

so I don't know how you can possibly accuse us of some kind of "honest meta" especially if you read the day 3 to this game where I pushed him to try and towntell and actually try in the game. Day 3 was the longest day there was, so if you think there's cheating going on why would it 3x longer than the other 2 days?

https://epicmafia.com/game/5788726/review -

I was town and epicsean was mafia, day 1 sean's partner shot bleeder thus confirming himself and during the night he says

02:37  epicsean3...
u just lost us
02:38  epicsean3...
the game
02:42  PuppySona...
how
02:47  epicsean3...
u werent
02:49  epicsean3...
supposed
 epicsean3...
to
02:50  PuppySona...
this goes to 4 way
 epicsean3...
shoot

if he were throwing for me why would he be upset that his partner just did something incredibly anti-town?

Then the gunsmith guns epicsean in 3 way so he shoots me and wins

https://epicmafia.com/game/5788745/review -

This game vegs but there's more proof epicsean doesn't even know my alts/who I am really

02:06  matt
forrest im mad at you the chicken was obvscum don't get me fearshot
02:14  epicsean3...
whos forrest

Not to mention in every single game I've taken the time to actually read the people in it and have stated reasons FOR my reads on each and every person

 epicsean3...
Apropos knows im town
09:41  Apropos
i just wanna win dudes
 epicsean3...
right?
09:46  Apropos
idk yet epicsean368
09:48  Apropos
lemme read more

There are no "random" weird TRs on people, including epicsean

https://epicmafia.com/game/5792405/review -

in this game I was illusionist and epicsean was gunsmith

07:58  epicsean3...
hi im gs

sean flat out claims gunsmith but I shot outside of him because I thought it was wifom - if he was throwing for me and thought I was town why would he blatantly claim gunsmith like that? If you think we're cheating and know each other's roles why would I not shoot him there?

10:10  epicsean3...
bonk can i trust u
 epicsean3...
u dont seem town this game

he even goes as far as to correctly fos me when I'm mafia, which lead to me being shot by bleeder

then the next day in 3 way sean correctly hammers mafia causing me to lose and himself to win

https://epicmafia.com/game/5794689/review -

in this game I'm town and sean is town as well

just read the game and see that I actually had reads, poked and prodded people to towntell, and explained my thoughts & reads
I was killed by Jess and then townyy hammered correctly in Jess & epicsean

https://epicmafia.com/game/5799936/review -

in this game I was blue and epicsean was templar

I lead on epicsean's partner at kicks and he didn't even try to save him, then night 2 epicsean was killed as templar too

if you earnestly think he's throwing for me and would let his partner get lynched then idk what to tell you

17:54  epicsean3...
Apropos
18:00  epicsean3...
is only good at ate

he even talks about how he tries to play/read me in this game

after both templars die I go on to lead on blue and town loses the 5 way

https://epicmafia.com/game/5799969/review -

in this game epicsean is mafia and I'm town

during he n1 chat after having both templars die in the previous game they joke about trying to beat me

xPooky
Let's kick haro's ass

I lead on epicsean to get him lynched day 1 and he omguses me

09:29  epicsean3...
Apropos is always mafia

then xPooky kills me as  blue in the night and town goes on to lose the game

https://epicmafia.com/game/5800036/review -

in this game we're both town and epicsean randomly hard claims again day 1 despite it being optimal to hide

02:41  epicsean3...
i promised im blue
02:45  Apropos
dont hard claim LMAO

if he was playing towards my win condition he wouldn't just blatantly out himself since it just narrows down PRs for mafia

in this game I get the illusionist shot, then mafia kills me again and epicsean goes on to win the 3 way for town

https://epicmafia.com/game/5800088/review -

banned user suicides out as soon as I fos them LMAO

https://epicmafia.com/game/5800093/review -

in this game I'm bleeder and sean is illusionist

he immediately shoot leader day 1, if he were planning to throw/lose to me why wouldn't he do any of the countless other things possible to subtly GT, like shoot bleeder or just NL the gun or just out himself so he can be shot before he shoots

sean tried to ISP this game and admitted to being there but not typing, when he's mafia he plays very shy and doesn't make a lot of comments, he's quite easy to read most of the time - and when I grilled him for his reads and opinions at 5 minutes he blatantly made bullshit up so he was mafia to me

I shot/lynched sean and his partner for a day 1 win

https://epicmafia.com/game/5800811/review -

in this game I'm town and sean is bleeder, sean misfires and mislynches for a mafia win
not much to say here

https://epicmafia.com/game/5800860/review -

in this game I flipped bleeder again and epicsean mafia again, he says during the night

02:53  epicsean3...
i think
02:56  epicsean3...
we're gonna lose
 epicsean3...
Apropos reads me like a book
03:11  epicsean3...
when im maf
03:29  epicsean3...
dont tell him i said that tho

they go on to make an actress code which gets the gunsmith shot

in this game I was literally afk for the first half and came back to nearly everyone fosing epicsean and decided to just reaction test him by calling him confirmed mafia and shooting outside of him based on the people who were claiming to read him

I shot mafia who had barely spoken to see if it was a unanimous town fos on epicsean and vanity flipped actress so I decided to just lynch sean afterwards, it was 2/2

https://epicmafia.com/game/5800883/review -

this game was just a mess of a troll game, sean was illu and I was gun smith

the bleeder decided to not claim at all to wifom (throw) and sean says he doesn't want to kill me - he agrees to actress on me instead

mafia is killed and it goes to 4 way since sean hit the bleeder instead of killing me (which would have ended up in autowin if I had gunned the bleeder, but I didnt because I assumed that I'd die and I didnt want the bleeder to make a hasty decision)

in the next game I explain to sean why it was potentially GTing because it'd have been autowin if I gunned

01:34  Apropos
because 4 way with gun and 2 ccs
01:36  Apropos
= autowin
01:38  Apropos
cuz if we shoot heck
01:40  Apropos
then urconfirmed
 epicsean3...
ohhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh
01:53  epicsean3...
oops
01:56  epicsean3...
that must look
01:57  epicsean3...
like
01:59  epicsean3...
i was throwing