[info]walliam
2014-07-09 12:44 am UTC (link) DeleteFreezeScreenTrack This  Select
are you cross with me?
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[info]mavi
2014-07-09 12:47 am UTC (link) DeleteFreezeScreenTrack This  Select
no. why would i be?
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[info]walliam
2014-07-09 12:48 am UTC (link) DeleteFreezeScreenTrack This  Select
i don't know. i just feel as though we never talk anymore and when we do it's much more short than it used to be.
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[info]mavi
2014-07-09 12:53 am UTC (link) DeleteFreezeScreenTrack This  Select
in the beginning i was putting some space between us, because things seemed to get convoluted at every turn and neither of us really needed that, but lately it's been unintentional, just busy with the move, and you moving into your new place, i suppose?
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[info]walliam
2014-07-09 12:56 am UTC (link) DeleteFreezeScreenTrack This  Select
what do you mean they got convoluted? yeah i suppose so. i'm not blaming you for it cause i'm sure i've done my bit too but 'm just confused by it.
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[info]mavi
2014-07-09 12:58 am UTC (link) DeleteFreezeScreenTrack This  Select
kind of messy? i don't know, they were just weird, and you were constantly being put in a position that wasn't fair for you to be in, so i just sort of let things be.
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[info]walliam
2014-07-09 01:00 am UTC (link) DeleteFreezeScreenTrack This  Select
what do you mean? what position was that? i feel a bit dumb, i really don't know what you mean.
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[info]mavi
2014-07-09 01:02 am UTC (link) DeleteFreezeScreenTrack This  Select
i wasn't liking gwen very much for a multitude of reasons and it was just easier to let you two be, and do my own thing. you're happy and that's all that matters.
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[info]walliam
2014-07-09 01:03 am UTC (link) DeleteFreezeScreenTrack This  Select
oh, right. you don't feel as though you can talk to me if you don't like gwen?
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[info]mavi
2014-07-09 01:06 am UTC (link) DeleteFreezeScreenTrack This  Select
honestly not always, because you get all up in arms. which is understandable, but then it becomes a thing
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[info]walliam
2014-07-09 01:08 am UTC (link) DeleteFreezeScreenTrack This  Select
maybe cause you called my fiancee a psychopath? that makes you sort of not a safe space, mavi.
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[info]mavi
2014-07-09 01:10 am UTC (link) DeleteFreezeScreenTrack This  Select
pretty sure i said that she was acting like a psychopath, but i could be wrong. lmao, not a safe space, alright
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[info]walliam
2014-07-09 01:12 am UTC (link) DeleteFreezeScreenTrack This  Select
as if those semantics would make any difference to you if you were in my position, mavs. if i were acting about someone that you were serious about like you have with gwen, would you be keen to talk to me about it?
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[info]mavi
2014-07-09 01:15 am UTC (link) DeleteFreezeScreenTrack This  Select
okay but i apologised for saying it, and what is not a safe space supposed to mean?
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[info]walliam
2014-07-09 01:16 am UTC (link) DeleteFreezeScreenTrack This  Select
it means i don't feel like i can say things to you cause you've made your position quite clear.
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[info]mavi
2014-07-09 01:17 am UTC (link) DeleteFreezeScreenTrack This  Select
oh, alright
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[info]walliam
2014-07-09 01:18 am UTC (link) DeleteFreezeScreenTrack This  Select
right.
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[info]mavi
2014-07-09 01:20 am UTC (link) DeleteFreezeScreenTrack This  Select
well if i'm apparently not a safe space, maybe we shouldn't be having conversation at all? i wouldn't want to impose my clear position on you or anything.
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[info]walliam
2014-07-09 01:22 am UTC (link) DeleteFreezeScreenTrack This  Select
right. fine.
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[info]mavi
2014-07-09 01:25 am UTC (link) DeleteFreezeScreenTrack This  Select
wow, i'm glad to see that a friendship of so many years is something you feel so compelled to fight for. i'm glad to really know where i really stand with you.
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[info]walliam
2014-07-09 01:26 am UTC (link) DeleteFreezeScreenTrack This  Select
and you're the one who doesn't want to be having this conversation. i'm glad to see that despite a friendship of so many years, me doing something that you don't approve of is enough for you to put all this distance between us and feel like you can't talk to me or support me. i'm glad to know where i really stand, too.
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[info]mavi
2014-07-09 01:31 am UTC (link) DeleteFreezeScreenTrack This  Select
did i say that i didn't want to be having this conversation, because i'm pretty sure that's just an assumption that you made. because it's ridiculous that you don't see things the way that they are, you see them how you want to and that irritates me because you have rose colored glasses. excuse me for wanting something good for you and trying to be a good friend, excuse me for fucking caring about things that you get yourself into. how fucking cruel of me to care so much.
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[info]walliam
2014-07-09 01:33 am UTC (link) DeleteFreezeScreenTrack This  Select
you're the one who said maybe we shouldn't be having this conversation, when i'm the one who came to you to try to figure out why there was this weird distance between us and fix it. guess what, being a good friend to me is supporting me. not getting strange and stiff with me because you don't like what i'm doing.
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[info]mavi
2014-07-09 01:38 am UTC (link) DeleteFreezeScreenTrack This  Select
because you said that i'm not safe, like how do you think that's supposed to make me feel, like having a conversation when you basically called me toxic to your life, when i'm clearly not the one who's toxic to your life. excuse me, i am not being strange, i have made it pointedly clear that i think you're making a wrong and stupid decision and you could do heaps better. so excuse me for not being able to support something that i think is downright stupid.
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[info]walliam
2014-07-09 01:39 am UTC (link) DeleteFreezeScreenTrack This  Select
you want it both ways, mavs, and it's not realistic. you're telling me right now that you think my relationship is downright stupid. the most important relationship i've ever had in my life with the woman who is having my daughter and who i'm going to marry, and yet you want me to trust you and feel safe talking to you about what's going on in my life? be realistic.


[info]walliam
2014-07-09 01:39 am UTC (link) DeleteFreezeScreenTrack This  Select
you want it both ways, mavs, and it's not realistic. you're telling me right now that you think my relationship is downright stupid. the most important relationship i've ever had in my life with the woman who is having my daughter and who i'm going to marry, and yet you want me to trust you and feel safe talking to you about what's going on in my life? be realistic.
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[info]mavi
2014-07-09 01:45 am UTC (link) DeleteFreezeScreenTrack This  Select
oh, i forgot to mention the part where i'm sure she got pregnant on purpose to keep you with her, since we're airing things out now. you know what, just forget it then, i'm not going to beg you to trust me, that's fucking ridiculous. i just think it's beyond insane that you don't notice that there's a common denominator chasing people out of your life, but if you're happy that way, then good on you. i'm sure you'll have a great life together!!
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[info]walliam
2014-07-09 01:47 am UTC (link) DeleteFreezeScreenTrack This  Select
i'm sorry?! what the fuck, mavi. you have no idea what the hell you're talking about and you need to shut the fuck up and stop disrespecting the woman that i love. maybe the common denominator is that the people in my life who i thought would always be there for me are selfish assholes who think that they know what's going on in my life better than me, even though they didn't even give gwen a chance. so you can fuck right off, you've lost all credibility in my book with that bullshit. how's that?
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[info]mavi
2014-07-09 01:58 am UTC (link) DeleteFreezeScreenTrack This  Select
oh i'm sorry, did you think that i cared? right, THE WHOLE LOT OF US are selfish assholes, because it's clearly EVERY SINGLE OTHER PERSON and not at all the one person, because that is completely fucking logical? no, it's laughable is what it is, mother fucking laughable. you believe whatever it is that helps you to sleep better at night, whatever little reason that you've created inside this world that you live in. i hope the delusion is treating you so well, because it's the only friend that you've really got left. LMAO right, we didn't give her a chance. she can spend all that time sitting and whining about how none of us make the effort, but did she ever make an effort with us? i'm sure she'll say that she did, but there was no reaching out, which by the way is a two way street.
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[info]walliam
2014-07-09 01:58 am UTC (link) DeleteFreezeScreenTrack This  Select
i really am glad i know this now. thanks, mavi.
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[info]walliam
2014-07-09 02:17 am UTC (link) DeleteFreezeScreenTrack This  Select
and another thing, you have no fucking idea what you're talking about. the idea that you'd suggest gwen got pregnant on purpose would be laughable if it weren't so utterly disrespectful and completely full of shit. you clearly know nothing about her, my relationship, or me apparently. so if we speak again, don't you dare say her name to me. you don't deserve it. don't you dare talk about her as if you have any idea what's gone on or what's going on. and you can call this delusion, you can call it whatever makes you feel better about the fact that you're a shitty friend and an unkind, judgmental person. so fuck off.