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- [3:38:11 PM] VivaLaGaming360: Hey, I'm gonna be at work until 10:30 EST tonight, but Im up late for anything you wanted to talk about
- [3:38:54 PM] Keeta: ok, we will prob talk tomorrow in that case, i wont be up much longer
- [3:41:55 PM] VivaLaGaming360: OK.
- [3:53:22 PM] VivaLaGaming360: OK, I lied, I have about 25 minutes before work now if you want
- [3:53:34 PM] VivaLaGaming360: Or im free whenever I wake up tomorrow
- [3:53:49 PM] Keeta: sure, do you prefer typing or talking
- [3:54:00 PM] VivaLaGaming360: Dont really care, tbh
- [3:54:09 PM] VivaLaGaming360: whatever you prefer/is easiest for you
- [3:54:23 PM] Keeta: all right, we can just type
- [3:54:30 PM] VivaLaGaming360: ok
- [3:54:37 PM] Keeta: did you talk to mike about mm
- [3:54:48 PM] Keeta: like, before the sched came out
- [3:55:11 PM] VivaLaGaming360: Kinda. He asked me for donation incentives/potential fun stuff i could do
- [3:55:32 PM] VivaLaGaming360: I told him filename, and sent him a video of the flying gyorg glitch in my run on bonnus at SGDQ
- [3:55:43 PM] VivaLaGaming360: He mentioned a race, I told him it honestly wasnt the best race game
- [3:56:00 PM] VivaLaGaming360: Just got a "hmm ok. Well, your commentary is good"
- [3:56:02 PM] VivaLaGaming360: and never heard back
- [3:56:26 PM] VivaLaGaming360: I DMd him on twitter when you dropped, just cause i was curious, he just said he was trying to figure things out
- [3:56:36 PM] VivaLaGaming360: and thats all Ive been involved with it
- [3:56:49 PM] Keeta: so he reached out to you?
- [3:56:57 PM] Keeta: about incentives and such
- [3:57:22 PM] VivaLaGaming360: We bumped into eachother in spikevegetas chat, and being friends from SGDQ he asked me to message him
- [3:57:26 PM] Keeta: ive talked to phil and i know mike didnt really say anything to him
- [3:57:42 PM] VivaLaGaming360: he said he wanted to, he may have just forgotten
- [3:58:40 PM] VivaLaGaming360: although phil included donation incentives with his submission, I just mentioned "possible small glitch expo"
- [3:58:48 PM] VivaLaGaming360: Phils were fairly clear, mine was kinda vague
- [3:58:56 PM] Keeta: im curious though, if you dont think the game is good for a race, do you plan on doing it?
- [3:59:15 PM] VivaLaGaming360: I do plan on racing. I dont think its the best race game, and phil is better than me\
- [3:59:27 PM] VivaLaGaming360: But, its about making things entertaining for a charity marathon
- [3:59:33 PM] VivaLaGaming360: and that, i can do
- [4:00:06 PM] Keeta: so you think its more entertaining if mm is raced?
- [4:00:15 PM] Keeta: instead of a single run
- [4:00:19 PM] VivaLaGaming360: i have mixed emotions about the idea, tbh
- [4:00:45 PM] VivaLaGaming360: I like that a race can show off different ways of doing stuff, like grotto ww vs non
- [4:00:55 PM] VivaLaGaming360: it can also take away from commentary, which I dont like
- [4:01:18 PM] VivaLaGaming360: yet, races are always very hyped up, and raise more than single runs
- [4:01:45 PM] VivaLaGaming360: Im very back and forth on the race
- [4:02:01 PM] VivaLaGaming360: but think it can be better for the marathon as a whole than a single run
- [4:02:29 PM] Keeta: so it sounds like youre uncertain in participating, unless im misunderstanding
- [4:03:12 PM] VivaLaGaming360: Im not sure id say im uncertain abot participating, im happily planning to race. I just have mixed emotions about races at GDQ;s at all
- [4:04:06 PM] Keeta: well i mean, if youre back and forth on whether or not you think a race is a good idea, i took that to mean you may or may not want to race
- [4:04:29 PM] VivaLaGaming360: Ah.
- [4:04:33 PM] Keeta: cuz if its not a good idea, it shouldnt be done
- [4:05:38 PM] VivaLaGaming360: Overall, races are super hyped for the marathons, but tend to take away from the run itself and commentary. Overall, they are exciting and raise more in donations
- [4:05:58 PM] VivaLaGaming360: Basically, i have mixed emotions because I recognize the bad elements of them, but think overall its a good idea
- [4:06:10 PM] Keeta: do you think the race would be close
- [4:06:52 PM] VivaLaGaming360: Taking into account that I have 3 months that I actually plan to practice and work on improving, I think it would be decently close.
- [4:07:06 PM] Keeta: like how close do you think
- [4:07:09 PM] VivaLaGaming360: if we did it today, not at all
- [4:07:28 PM] VivaLaGaming360: and im not sure, exactly. Maybe 2-3 minutes?
- [4:07:59 PM] VivaLaGaming360: I havent put a lot of thought into it tbh
- [4:08:16 PM] Keeta: oh?
- [4:08:33 PM] VivaLaGaming360: I never thought we would be racing.
- [4:08:51 PM] VivaLaGaming360: I told uyama it isnt a great race game, and im guessing phil has, seeing as he told me he refused to race
- [4:09:45 PM] Keeta: in the event that he wouldnt race, would you play yourself or give the run to him
- [4:10:04 PM] VivaLaGaming360: It isnt really my decision
- [4:10:20 PM] Keeta: im asking what you would do
- [4:12:07 PM] VivaLaGaming360: Id prefer to do it myself. I had a lot of fun with the bonus stream run, and everybody who I've taliked to about it (including mike) said that the commentary was excellent, and they would like to see it in a min marathon GDQ
- [4:13:15 PM] Keeta: so do you think you could do a better job showing the game off than him
- [4:15:10 PM] VivaLaGaming360: Just the run itself, no glitch shows, no nothing, phil would do a better job. Hes just better than me at the game
- [4:15:35 PM] VivaLaGaming360: taking into account commentary, explanations, donation incentives, etc. I feel I would do a better job
- [4:16:28 PM] Keeta: is his commentary bad or is he not good at explaining? i havent been too into mm streams so idk these things
- [4:19:22 PM] VivaLaGaming360: I have been banned in his chat and dont watch MM anymore, so this info is arond a month old, but when i used to watch him, he never really explained much. When people asked, his explanations didnt really help much. Hes done one or two runs, trying to do full commentary (marathon style) and im not sure how to describe it, but he didnt explain it well
- [4:20:41 PM] Keeta: hmm. from an unbiased perspective, going just off what youre saying, wouldnt it make sense for him to do the run and you do the commentary in that sense? explanations dont involve playing the game
- [4:21:11 PM] VivaLaGaming360: I don't want to help him with a run. I dont want to be on couch, or do anything for him.
- [4:21:26 PM] Keeta: but you would race him? on the same couch?
- [4:22:25 PM] VivaLaGaming360: Id race him, because it lets me do my commentary, and would plain be fun, and is more hyped and will raise more for charity
- [4:22:31 PM] VivaLaGaming360: simply put, races raise more than runs
- [4:22:41 PM] Keeta: alternatively, i think zfg is going. i guess he would be able to do commentary for him if he isnt good at it
- [4:23:12 PM] VivaLaGaming360: ZFG will be there, yes. Im guessing him, ennopp if he goes and im not sure who else would be on couch
- [4:24:29 PM] Keeta: in that sense, in the case he doesnt want to race, would you be ok with him doing the run and one or both of them doing commentary? (though i would guess if ennopp went, he could and should do the run himself)
- [4:24:51 PM] Keeta: going off what you said of him being able to put out the better run gameplay wise
- [4:26:01 PM] VivaLaGaming360: I dont honestly want him to do the solo run. I feel i would do a better job overall with commentary and trying to make things entertaining for a marathon. I also dont like him doing it, simply because he told me that the reason he didnt want to race was so he could get more followers
- [4:26:28 PM] VivaLaGaming360: If EnNopp goes, I wholeheaertedly plan to try and give him the run though\
- [4:27:14 PM] Keeta: im trying to keep drama out of this. i care a lot about mm and im interested in making sure that the game gets represented as well as it can at agdq, so i want to be really unbiased
- [4:27:27 PM] VivaLaGaming360: Thats very respectable.
- [4:27:35 PM] Keeta: i know that zfg has really good commentary
- [4:27:42 PM] Keeta: and he knows a lot about the game
- [4:27:58 PM] VivaLaGaming360: If you REALLY want to know about mine, i can give you a link to my SGDQ bonus run
- [4:29:37 PM] Keeta: what im saying is this: you said that phil would have faster and better gameplay than him, but you would have better commentary. even if we were to grant that his commentary is bad, from an objective standpoint, zfg is there and could deliver good commentary
- [4:30:09 PM] Keeta: so it would make sense for him to run with zfg on the couch
- [4:31:30 PM] Keeta: do you agree?
- [4:32:36 PM] VivaLaGaming360: I think from a marathon planning standpoint, the race makes the most sense
- [4:33:27 PM] Keeta: im saying in the event that one or both of you didnt want to race, as you said that you were on the fence and that he didnt want to
- [4:33:29 PM] VivaLaGaming360: There will be phil with the better gameplay, Ill have better commentary, along with ZFG if he comes for it, and the fact that in terms of donations, which are kinda the goal, races always raise the most
- [4:34:32 PM] VivaLaGaming360: Honestly, Im not sure. Personally to me, the runner doing commentary is a lot more entertaining than others with him. That might just be me. I dont like having someone do the run who sucks with commentary, and someone else explaining and commentating.
- [4:34:41 PM] VivaLaGaming360: I personally dont like it, but it might just be me, i dont know
- [4:35:52 PM] Keeta: well, this is assuming he has bad commentary. but i dont see how whos doing the talking affects run quality, ive seen plenty of gdq runs where the runner is silent
- [4:37:14 PM] VivaLaGaming360: Well, like I said. I don't like it, i feel like a runner should be able to do a lot of his own talking. I feel like others doing it makes it less entertaining. But, that is my own personal opinion. Ive seen a few GDQ chats where people are upset that the runner isnt talking much, but theres no telling how many people werre actually upset with it
- [4:37:59 PM] VivaLaGaming360: So, I dont personally like it, but I dont know overall how most people feel about it.
- [4:38:11 PM] VivaLaGaming360: Also, I have to go to work
- [4:38:31 PM] Keeta: ah, we can continue this convo tomorrow
- [4:38:49 PM] Keeta: i want to have a good sense of whats gonna happen at agdq for mm
- [4:38:52 PM] VivaLaGaming360: Indeed. Ill message you when I wake up tomorrow.
- [4:38:59 PM] Keeta: sure thing
- [4:39:15 PM] VivaLaGaming360: And thats fair. Your notion of just trying to be unbiased and make sure the game is well done is very respectable. GDQ's could use more people with that mindset
- [4:39:23 PM] Keeta: thanks
- [4:39:29 PM] VivaLaGaming360: Anyway, have a good one, talk to you tomorrow
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