zzzzzz [1:30 PM]
4. Thats not your decision. The tribunal is the owner and adminstrators and their staff that make those decisions... just like any other casino.

[1:30]
What power should there be?

[1:31]
to do what?

[1:31]
(Im interested).

flip4stax [1:31 PM]
Sending a video over

zzzzzz [1:31 PM]
kk ill peep in a bit. ty

flip4stax [1:32 PM]
uploaded a file
BannedFromBetcoin.flv
163MB
Flash Video
 Click to download
Add Comment


----- February 11th -----
flip4stax [1:20 PM]
unbanned

zzzzzz [1:20 PM]
good deal

flip4stax [2:45 PM]
No, it's not a good deal.

[2:45]
Because the deal was don't unban me till you're willing to come to the table and address these issues.

[2:45]
By unbanning me, they fulfilled what they thought was the most important part of that arrangement, not what I thought was the most important part.

hugostiglitz [5:33 PM]
why did they ban u in the first place? because you dared to speak your mind as somewhat of a critic? if thats all there was to it then thats just wrong, especially when they do nothing to keep out certain truly shameful characters. idz4deals banned... really? good one guys, you're really cleaning the scum out

zzzzzz [7:17 PM]
There was a number of accounts that were frozen during review. The users could not access their account while under review. They were not banned. Idz was one of those people and I DMd him on twitter to let him know what was up.


----- April 2nd -----
lakeratt1771 [9:22 AM]
joined #general

lakeratt1771 [9:25 AM]
o/

zzzzzz [9:26 AM]
:wave:

lakeratt1771 [9:27 AM]
lol took me a day or two to get in sry bout that

[9:28]
i feel like this is the first day ive had to really relax in like three months

lakeratt1771 [9:35 AM]
if i close this window will i receive notifications i have set?   this is pretty neat

zzzzzz [9:38 AM]
There is an app win/mac/nix a mobile one for Android and iphone.

[9:38]
Short answer: no

[9:39]
Yes, if you use mobile apps or desktop apps.

[9:39]
No worries. This isn't used as much as we should. Just a good chat for our friends and stuff.

lakeratt1771 [9:42 AM]
thats cool,  pretty neat chat though,   is it free or is there a hosting fee?

zzzzzz [9:44 AM]
Is free. Only stores 10k message history and 3 integrations per channel or something. If you want to mess around the integrations I can give you permission... or you could start your own slack.

[9:45]
Paid version is pay per user

[9:45]
It's really an amazing app. It's like IRC but easy enough for none nerds/teams

[9:47]
Just moved into my new house yesterday.  Can see the lake from the porch and I get my own office :)

[9:47]
I'm feeling good today haha

lakeratt1771 [9:54 AM]
thats awesome lol grats :simple_smile:

lakeratt1771 [10:49 AM]
is table starter working auto yet?

zzzzzz [10:55 AM]
Yeah I'm told it is. I have only been playing video poker.

lakeratt1771 [10:57 AM]
mm lol right on

zzzzzz [11:01 AM]
New house, promotion, startup launch, and a baby on the way : ) been a little busy. Hard to grind like that... I like to play MTTs or step my way up in ring. No time to invest : /

lakeratt1771 [11:02 AM]
thats really cool,

[11:02]
ive been focused on this cdl school,  about to graduate 'n get myown truck i'm pretty excited

[11:03]
this is the first day ive been able to kick back 'n relax in months lol

lakeratt1771 [3:33 PM]
need one more for 5chip daily coin sat if anyones interested

lakeratt1771 [5:50 PM]
weird no rebuys in the current 5chip daily sat

[5:50]
not available i mean,


----- April 7th -----
unworncoma [4:11 PM]
joined #general. Also, @hashminer joined.


----- May 19th -----
hashminer [6:23 PM]
Hello

zzzzzz [6:24 PM]
Welcome : )

hashminer [6:24 PM]
How's the day been?

zzzzzz [6:24 PM]
There are some other channels you may join. If you have any request for integrations (making chat do cool stuff) let me know.

hashminer [6:25 PM]
is content at the moment

hashminer [6:25 PM]
Unless I am missing out on anything cool.

zzzzzz [6:25 PM]
Legit. Kids are sick but I work from home.  Ben taking care of them with momma and kicking ass all day.

hashminer [6:25 PM]
Been about a year since I used slack with the old work company.

zzzzzz [6:26 PM]
Just put them dien for a nap and now I'm kicking back for 5.

hashminer [6:26 PM]
Heck yeah! Sucks about the kiddos though.

[6:26]
Found a couple typos on your site last night. I meant to jot them down

zzzzzz [6:26 PM]
You do webdev stuff or you just saw the thread and you wanted to help out?

[6:26]
Oh awesome!

[6:27]
Thanks for noticing. I'm very bad at that. Usually write those little sites one time abs don't go back and review.

hashminer [6:27 PM]
A little bit of the both. Nothing major in the dev department. I am great with helpdesk / tech support

zzzzzz [6:27 PM]
@macab: where you at brother?

hashminer [6:28 PM]
I started with a startup a little over a year ago and learned a bunch of stuff

zzzzzz [6:28 PM]
Nice. I'm a startup addict.

hashminer [6:28 PM]
then the CEO lost his marbles and screwed everyone lol

zzzzzz [6:28 PM]
Sounds about right

hashminer [6:28 PM]
Same here. I love em. Met a lot of great people

[6:28]
Plus it was Bitcoin mining so im sure he thought he could get away with it.

zzzzzz [6:29 PM]
You ever hear of 3DS? 3 Day Startup?

hashminer [6:29 PM]
I have not

zzzzzz [6:30 PM]
http://3daystartup.org/
3 Day Startup
How Students Get Started



hashminer [6:30 PM]
www.coinhost.io/shared.html under the advanced tab, in the Free SSL Certificate "FREE with Biennial Plab"

zzzzzz [6:30 PM]
I've done this with a few colleges. I've been a judge once. I been a mentor twice.

hashminer [6:30 PM]
That is awesome!

[6:30]
Oh wow!

zzzzzz [6:31 PM]
Biennial plab bahahaj

hashminer [6:31 PM]
What a great program

zzzzzz [6:31 PM]
That's not even a word.

[6:31]
Yeah its so awesome. The Dean

hashminer [6:31 PM]
There was another one but I forgot where. I will jot it down next time I see it.

zzzzzz [6:31 PM]
Of business at UT and at San Marcos are strong supporters

hashminer [6:32 PM]
Very cool! I love that idea they have

zzzzzz [6:32 PM]
Have a project due yesterday. Gonna take 5 and get back to work. I'll be able to chat...I just might be slower to respond

hashminer [6:33 PM]
No worries. Ill be around


----- May 22nd -----
hashminer [8:42 PM]
Hello everyone :slightly_smiling_face:

zzzzzz [8:52 PM]
Chirp chirp

hashminer [9:16 PM]
Hows it going?

[9:16]
Busy working all day?


----- May 23rd -----
hashminer [3:34 PM]
Sup

zzzzzz [3:35 PM]
Yo, can you create a new account for the domain you wanted to host?

[3:36]
This way I can keep the crt one up. and hey! Post in the thread and Ill pay out for putting an affiliate banner up!

[3:37]
https://coinhost.io/portal/cart.php?a=confproduct&i=1

[3:37]
Oh wait...

[3:37]
grr...

[3:40]
https://coinhost.io/portal/cart.php?a=add&pid=4

[3:40]
Tell me once you

[3:41]
place the order and I will waive the invoice.

hashminer [3:43 PM]
sure one sec

[3:46]
Figured you wouldnt care if I put your hosting on the page as well

zzzzzz [3:46 PM]
Nah, thats the plan! Affiliate

hashminer [3:47 PM]
"Unexpected payment method value. Exiting."

zzzzzz [3:47 PM]
Up until this year I was much much much more active in building a crew of affiliates and champions.

[3:47]
Yeah, I still havent messed with the billing section.

[3:47]
Let me see if I see the order.

hashminer [3:49 PM]
If there is anything I can do to help just let me know

zzzzzz [3:50 PM]
Oh I just gotta hop in and look at the plugin. Apparently my theme broke too.

[3:50]
Do you know about cPanel, WHMCS. Resellerclub, etc?

[3:50]
Any of that stuff?

[3:50]
(I just created the account btw. Im setting up the DNS now).

hashminer [3:51 PM]
Not really honestly

zzzzzz [3:51 PM]
Right on, yeah its all niche hosting software.

hashminer [3:51 PM]
I had resller hosting about 3 years ago. We sold a good amount of plans but I had a buddy holding my hand the whole time

zzzzzz [3:51 PM]
Its what I use to power most of the services -- along with a coinpayments plugin.

hashminer [3:51 PM]
helping me with everything

[3:52]
Thanks for setting it up!

zzzzzz [3:52 PM]
Quite welcome : )

hashminer [3:54 PM]
I can post up an Index template for people to use, that might help some people start a subdomain to list their banners on. Unless you are trying to target a different audience who can creat atleast a basic index

zzzzzz [3:54 PM]
That would be helpful. Im actually just trying to help people nerd out for free.

hashminer [3:55 PM]
Awesome. I will post one up later.

zzzzzz [3:55 PM]
I havent done much dev on that site in months. Im thinking about hiring this cat Mac to do live chat -- and Ill get all the packages re-configured etc.

hashminer [3:55 PM]
I ignore the NS in the email correct? Just leave them to the ones you gave me a few days ago?

zzzzzz [3:55 PM]
I just sent a 10 chip tip for getting that page up!

[3:55]
(btw)

hashminer [3:55 PM]
Thanks man! You didnt need to send me any chips

[3:55]
I will pay them forward

zzzzzz [3:56 PM]
It's all good. It was in the fine print hah. I said "do this" and "report back" and "ill send chips". I just wanted to show people there are so many ways to make money / bitcoin without begging.

hashminer [3:56 PM]
If it doesnt work out with Mac let me know if I can be of some help. I have a bunch of experience in Live support and help desk.

zzzzzz [3:56 PM]
I make very decent money 100% from home.

hashminer [3:57 PM]
Awesome. Again I appreciate it. I will point anyone begging in chat to your post.

zzzzzz [3:57 PM]
Okay, Im still working out the two payment structure options. One is hourly and pays nearly nothing, the other is commission and pays residual.

[3:58]
word, good deal. Let stay in touch.

hashminer [4:00 PM]
Sounds good man.

[4:00]
http://dickbutt.racing/

[4:00]
Time to start the fun rofl

zzzzzz [4:00 PM]
bahahah


----- May 24th -----
lakeratt1771 [1:01 PM]
ello

zzzzzz [1:02 PM]
eyo

lakeratt1771 [1:02 PM]
heyya zzz whats the haps

zzzzzz [1:03 PM]
at this very moment Im neck deep in servers. cant really chat : ) ttys

lakeratt1771 [1:07 PM]
np gl

zzzzzz [1:17 PM]
Whaat are youuuuuu up to?

lakeratt1771 [1:17 PM]
trying to create a miracle lol

[1:18]
got into some debt supposed to be paid off tonight 'n i'd planned on depositing if i had to in order to pay it back then i got my check 'n it had $450 in deductions.....

zzzzzz [1:19 PM]
ohhh mannn : ((( been there

lakeratt1771 [1:19 PM]
unloading reciept didnt go through properly,   $350 there,     plus motel fees i didnt see coming.        i'll get the 350 back next check but im on vacation,  go back on the 26th.    wont get it back til i finish another trip to turn in

[1:19]
$450 worth of deductions on a $550 paycheck lol

zzzzzz [1:19 PM]
brutal

lakeratt1771 [1:20 PM]
got me all screwed up.      syds all excited i wont be able to pay him back because i agreed to a ridiculous 6.5% interest per day late

zzzzzz [1:20 PM]
I honestly can not lend a hand up and I don't know any quick schemes. Payday loans are extortion.

lakeratt1771 [1:21 PM]
yep.   id take one at this point just to pay off syd if i could.     i dont like to welch

[1:21]
i mean i'll pay him back sooner or later no prob i just wanted to do it on time

zzzzzz [1:22 PM]
especially with interest daily

lakeratt1771 [1:24 PM]
yea i half think he'd rather me not pay him back jjust so he can crack jokes about it

zzzzzz [1:26 PM]
Yeah I dont have time for the bs and ass grabbing that goes on in chat. I just make responses in threads now and link social media to good threads.

[1:27]
Hope you get it figured out brother. I don't really have any work right now either. Im looking at hiring some people but its full time commission (so wouldnt do you any good if you were the right candidate anyhow).

lakeratt1771 [1:27 PM]
right,  once i get back to work in a couple days i dont really have a lot of extra time either

hashminer [8:39 PM]
Sup guys?


----- May 25th -----
mr.q [7:28 PM]
joined #general


----- May 26th -----
hashminer [5:29 PM]
Screw riding a bike in the rain

[5:29]
Got my shower for the day though!

zzzzzz [5:37 PM]
Bahaha

[5:37]
I've been behind the desk all day. Just launched a new cloud : )

[5:37]
We've launched a new SSD-backed cloud with 20Gbps uplinks and sub-1 minute provisioning times for cloud and dedicated server instances! Learn more:

[5:39]
http://www.limestonenetworks.com/wordpress/2016/05/26/limestone-networks-announces-launch-of-oneportal-rapid-cloud-platform/

[5:39]
Just went for a walk and just about killed me. So hot and humid here in S. Texas today

hashminer [5:40 PM]
Awesome! I will read up on it

[5:40]
Was 80 degrees this morning when i left for work, 60 and rain when I go home lol

zzzzzz [5:41 PM]
Heh : ) juked

hashminer [7:52 PM]
lol mother nature got me good today


----- May 27th -----
hashminer [6:49 PM]
How is everyone today?

lakeratt1771 [7:08 PM]
yello

hashminer [7:10 PM]
how goes it?

lakeratt1771 [7:21 PM]
heyya hash not to bad :slightly_smiling_face:

[7:21]
hanging out

hashminer [7:50 PM]
awesome. Beautiful day here

zzzzzz [8:05 PM]
Beautiful Day +1


----- May 28th -----
zzzzzz [9:11 PM]
uploaded an image: They say no shirt, no shoes, no service. Nothing about no pants xD
1 Comment

zzzzzz [9:11 PM]
@plo8monster:


----- May 30th -----
zzzzzz [12:31 PM]
uploaded an image: When the grammar nazi needs spell check.
Add Comment

hashminer [9:31 PM]
What's up everyone?


----- May 31st -----
zzzzzz [9:42 AM]
BITCOIN YO

zzzzzz [9:43 AM]
uploaded an image: Slack for Android Upload
Add Comment

zzzzzz [9:44 AM]
543 now

hashminer [6:37 PM]
nice!


----- June 1st -----
hashminer [10:01 PM]
How is everyone?

zzzzzz [10:05 PM]
Long rough day. Kids just put to bed. I'm tapping out. Sorry : / gngn

hashminer [10:07 PM]
Night!


----- June 2nd -----
hashminer [2:11 PM]
Howdy everyone

zzzzzz [2:12 PM]
Howdy

[2:13]
Internet back up at the house this afternoon.

hashminer [2:14 PM]
That is good

[2:15]
It is always rough to lose the internet unexpectedly

zzzzzz [2:15 PM]
What are you up to today? I have a lot of that backend  finished for the new server.

hashminer [2:15 PM]
Not a thing. Just hanging out. Might go ride around the park at some point.

[2:16]
Probably best to stay indoors today. I am pretty burnt

zzzzzz [2:16 PM]
I'm going to create a new slack for coinhost.

hashminer [2:16 PM]
That is a good idea

zzzzzz [2:16 PM]
Heh. Weekend kick you ass or work?

hashminer [2:16 PM]
work

[2:17]
Spoiled working for an electrician. This week we had to find a ground wire for a pool.

[2:17]
Me not being the electrician got the honors of digging :slightly_smiling_face:

zzzzzz [2:17 PM]
Oh hahaha. Digging?  I'm good at that.

[2:17]
Yeah lol

hashminer [2:17 PM]
Same here lol I dont mind it usually. It was just hot and humid

[2:18]
Plus riding the bike to work get a lot of sun.


----- June 3rd -----
lakeratt1771 [1:34 PM]
yello

zzzzzz [1:34 PM]
wassup

lakeratt1771 [1:35 PM]
chillin working on a fb page a bit

[1:35]
hey zzz do our old aff links still work ok? the ones in the wallet?

[1:35]
ive had 4 sign ups from my fb page but none of them hit my account :disappointed: lol

hashminer [1:36 PM]
sup ugys

[1:36]
guys

lakeratt1771 [1:36 PM]
my mamma says i'mhandsome

[1:36]
not ugy

hashminer [1:37 PM]
mine says im special

lakeratt1771 [1:37 PM]
lol

[1:37]
man i took a week vacation from this truck and my finances have been fked ever since

[1:38]
i swear im tryin so fkn hard lol

hashminer [1:38 PM]
That sucks

lakeratt1771 [1:38 PM]
i got a $48 check for 1100 miles yesterday like wtf

hashminer [1:38 PM]
ouch

[1:39]
im movin to washington soon. ill give you $49

lakeratt1771 [1:39 PM]
everythings a deduction or an advance lol

[1:39]
lmao rite?

hashminer [1:39 PM]
that is rough man

[1:39]
hope it all gets better soon

zzzzzz [1:40 PM]
@lakeratt... you have to be careful with FB links

lakeratt1771 [1:40 PM]
i keep grinding

[1:40]
i took it down zzz

zzzzzz [1:40 PM]
they remove your affiliate code -- you got to use the "page sharer" with your affiliate code in it.

lakeratt1771 [1:40 PM]
hmm

zzzzzz [1:40 PM]
Ill show you example

lakeratt1771 [1:40 PM]
man i was all excited i had four signups

zzzzzz [1:40 PM]
I would ask support wtf too

[1:41]
If you know the sign-ups tell them to create a new account so you can get paid heh.

lakeratt1771 [1:41 PM]
every little bit helps you know lol

zzzzzz [1:41 PM]
So... when you share a page from betcoin... it pops up in a sharer like this..
https://www.facebook.com/sharer/sharer.php?u=https://www.betcoin.ag/what-not-do-when-promoting-betcoin

lakeratt1771 [1:41 PM]
who knows one of those guys couldve been the whale betting football

zzzzzz [1:42 PM]
If you go type your ref code up there then refresh that link...
https://www.facebook.com/sharer/sharer.php?u=https://www.betcoin.ag/what-not-do-when-promoting-betcoin?r=72

lakeratt1771 [1:42 PM]
hmmm

zzzzzz [1:42 PM]
Then, share the page...

[1:42]
it will contain the referral link.

hashminer [6:34 PM]
How is everyone?


----- June 4th -----
hashminer [2:24 PM]
Another beautiful day!


----- June 8th -----
james6998 [11:52 AM]
joined #general


----- June 11th -----
lakeratt1771 [7:00 PM]
hello,   zzz you handy?

hashminer [9:12 PM]
zzzzzz is very handy

zzzzzz [9:16 PM]
lol

[9:16]
Whats up? : )


----- June 19th -----
lakeratt1771 [9:39 PM]
yello,  zzz you around?

zzzzzz [9:40 PM]
Coming wassssuuuupppp

[9:40]
Cooking* lol

lakeratt1771 [9:40 PM]
heyyy lol hey can we do private here?

[9:40]
i just had a delicious chicken salad croisantwich

[9:40]
criosant

[9:40]
whatever. it was gud

[9:41]
test

zzzzzz [9:43 PM]
Yes. Click my name then direct message.

lakeratt1771 [10:01 PM]
see message zz?


----- June 26th -----
spazballz [10:50 AM]
joined #general

zzzzzz [10:56 AM]
:wave:

[10:57]
Create a free hosting account at coinhost.io and we'll help you set up your first referral banners for the affiliate program.


----- June 29th -----

Simple Poll BOT [12:11 PM]
*Have you registered an account at coinhost.io*

:one: Yes
:two: No
:three: What is that?

hashminer [3:10 PM]
3

zzzzzz [3:26 PM]
To most: A way to earn free residual bitcoin. The affiliate program is live.

To some: A scalable, resilient, high-performance hardware and network infrastructure powering websites and dedicated servers.


----- July 7th -----
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----- July 17th -----

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----- August 11th -----
Pinned by xxxstoppal
Oct 20th at 6:52 PM Pinned by xxxstoppal
zzzzzz [3:40 PM]
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vnhKqlKsrx8
 YouTube Alec Torelli
Cash Game Poker Tips: Playing the Nuts (Poker Quads) in No Limit Hold'em



----- September 29th -----
xxxstoppal [3:48 PM]
buddy


----- October 21st -----
xxxstoppal [11:48 AM]
Hey buddy what's up I am

zzzzzz [11:48 AM]
im just killing it allthings.host'ing it up :smile:

[11:49]
jammin some funk-ness

[11:49]
 ```contact.firstname,
You look like you have an impressive amount of experience hosting. I'm designing a survey and will be asking 100 people with similar experiences in web hosting and dedicated servers about their thoughts on colocation.

If you had the opportunity to ask any question of 100 peers, what would you ask?```

[11:49]
making templates...

[11:50]
 ```contact.firstname,
Thank you for your assistance in designing this survey. Will you take the survey now that it's ready? It's five questions long and should take you 5 minutes.

As soon as we have 100 respondents, I'll send you the preliminary results.```

[11:50]
...hahah trying to take the easiest path to the most sales..

[11:50]
What about you?

xxxstoppal [12:05 PM]
I like that a lot

zzzzzz [12:05 PM]
Yeah, Im going to use the information to create a market research whitepaper... then put that on a landing page to convert visitors into leads.

[12:06]
We need to together on some ish : )

xxxstoppal [12:08 PM]
Thought you was coming to Dallas for a little bit

zzzzzz [12:09 PM]
Dallas coming to me instead

xxxstoppal [12:09 PM]
Even better

zzzzzz [12:10 PM]
Was meeting with this accelerator but they are visiting Austin today and we're gonna have breakfast in the morning.

xxxstoppal [12:12 PM]
ok help me with something.  check lappotsinsurance.com. it's going to index page. I was wondering if I could just forward it to lowcostautoinssr22.com

zzzzzz [12:12 PM]
: ( I thought I fixed that already wth.

[12:12]
Yes, Ill check it out right now.

[12:14]
check it now.. is that correct?

[12:14]
looks different then I remember

[12:15]
Yeah i see... wth..

[12:15]
Its sending it to the wrong page for some reason...


----- October 22nd -----
dabsofslabs [12:08 AM]
joined #general. Also, @k1llgam3 joined, @rouletteking joined.


----- Yesterday October 25th, 2016 -----
zzzzzz [3:11 PM]
:wave:

[3:12]
https://goo.gl/forms/Dm5egKp6ZKNvtQvc2
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Betcoin Twitch Team Signup
Looking for fellow streamers to help promote the Daily Coin 1 BTC GTD Poker Tour (9PM ET).Streaming:Each stream participant will receive (1) link on the raffle form at https://bitcoinpromocode.com (6zsBPC). In exchange for streaming, blog posts, shares, tweets, forums, +1s, and pins for exposure, 6zsBPC will provide poker tour tickets to the raffle entrants.Social Media Engagement Expected and Appreciated!**EXAMPLE: schedule post for 2x a day, before tournament, using buffer.com (scheduled/repeating/customized post)To sign Up: Show more... (276KB)


isnortbooze [3:14 PM]
joined #general. Also, @pokeherstars joined.