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  1. Nineage - Today at 2:18 PM
  2. id add that you can support your team with rocks and knock off
  3. in the overview
  4. RandomChamps - Today at 2:18 PM
  5. all right
  6. Nineage - Today at 2:19 PM
  7. so change these as i go
  8. RandomChamps - Today at 2:19 PM
  9. yeah
  10. Nineage - Today at 2:20 PM
  11. wait
  12. your set order
  13. is weird
  14. shouldnt sturdysmash be last
  15. id say solid rock smash > defensive > sturdysmash
  16. no?
  17. RandomChamps - Today at 2:21 PM
  18. well I ordered it in the order of success I've had with them, and it's also the same order as the XY analysis
  19. but I can change it for sure
  20. Nineage - Today at 2:22 PM
  21. yeah id go the order i just mentioned but let me finish looking through it frist
  22. RandomChamps - Today at 2:22 PM
  23. all right
  24. Nineage - Today at 2:22 PM
  25. so sturdy set
  26. team options
  27. i think onix is a better example than dril
  28. for electric checks
  29. though dril doesnt have a fight weakness so mention both i suppose
  30. RandomChamps - Today at 2:23 PM
  31. sturdy set?
  32. cause I can't find examples of Electric-checks
  33. Drilbur is there as a Spinner
  34. that happens to also check Electrics
  35. Nineage - Today at 2:24 PM
  36. no im in the sturdyjuice set
  37. team options
  38. RandomChamps - Today at 2:24 PM
  39. yeah me too
  40. Nineage - Today at 2:24 PM
  41. Drilbur can also help deal with Tirtouga's Electric-type weakness and set up Stealth Rock, which can help Tirtouga secure crucial KOes
  42. oh thats a
  43. RandomChamps - Today at 2:24 PM
  44. Rapid Spin users such as Staryu and Drilbur or Defog users such as Vullaby are mandatory in order to preserve Tirtouga's Strudy. Drilbur can also help deal with Tirtouga's Electric-type weakness and set up Stealth Rock,
  45. Nineage - Today at 2:24 PM
  46. continuation
  47. RandomChamps - Today at 2:24 PM
  48. yeah
  49. Nineage - Today at 2:25 PM
  50. fair enough
  51. i think it might be worth including pawn checks
  52. you sort of have it
  53. but like
  54. pawn is especially annoying
  55. to that set
  56. because knock + sucker
  57. RandomChamps - Today at 2:25 PM
  58. yeah
  59. Nineage - Today at 2:25 PM
  60. id say like
  61. Pawniard checks blah blah blah. CHecks to other common prio users...
  62. and then talk abt timb and gunk
  63. moving on
  64. solid rock set
  65. RandomChamps - Today at 2:26 PM
  66. ok
  67. Nineage - Today at 2:27 PM
  68. yo the move descriptions
  69. for this set
  70. shouldnt be exactly identical
  71. change up the wording just a little bit more
  72. i dont think you emphasize how cool solid rock is enough
  73. RandomChamps - Today at 2:28 PM
  74. that's not easy
  75. Nineage - Today at 2:28 PM
  76. in your set details
  77. RandomChamps - Today at 2:28 PM
  78. when they are the exact same moves used for the same reason
  79. but I'll try
  80. Nineage - Today at 2:28 PM
  81. i mean
  82. the same examples
  83. are probably fine
  84. just like
  85. change the sentence structure
  86. on a few sentences
  87. ok so
  88. back to set details
  89. just say like
  90. something abt why solid rock is useful at the very beginning
  91. and then keep everything else how it is
  92. usage tips mention weakening opposing prio users
  93. and emphasize that although you CAN set up on traditional tirtouga checks
  94. its better not to because you still take damages
  95. RandomChamps - Today at 2:31 PM
  96. all right
  97. you're going faster than me tho
  98. Nineage - Today at 2:31 PM
  99. yeah rest of that set is fine
  100. so ill wait for you to catch up
  101. lmk when you are there
  102. RandomChamps - Today at 2:32 PM
  103. cool
  104. all right I'm there
  105. btw, I went with this:
  106. However, this is usually not recommended, as Tirtouga will still take significant damage from them, making it easier to be revenge killed by fast Choice Scarf users and priority users.
  107. to say that it is usually bad to set up on Mienfoo and Gunk
  108. I'm not sure if that's good tho
  109. Nineage - Today at 2:37 PM
  110. yeah thats fine
  111. RandomChamps - Today at 2:37 PM
  112. cool
  113. Nineage - Today at 2:37 PM
  114. ok final set
  115. RandomChamps - Today at 2:38 PM
  116. disclaimer: this is easily the set I've used the least (and like the least)
  117. Nineage - Today at 2:38 PM
  118. mention that ajet is pretty weak
  119. RandomChamps - Today at 2:38 PM
  120. ok
  121. Nineage - Today at 2:39 PM
  122. id take out the not very common line
  123. in usage tips
  124. just say it can bluff a shell smash set to surprise opponents
  125. mention croa in team options
  126. when you mention poison types
  127. just because tirt + gunk
  128. is such a godcore
  129. RandomChamps - Today at 2:41 PM
  130. ok
  131. Nineage - Today at 2:41 PM
  132. other than that
  133. looks great as usual
  134. RandomChamps - Today at 2:41 PM
  135. thanks!
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