bluefeet
27229280 19:14:35
room mode changed to Private: only approved users may enter this room (this should only be used for moderation purposes)

thecoshman
thecoshman
27229282 19:14:48
oh wow, red carpet treatment

bluefeet
bluefeet
27229294 19:15:06
Sure I'll explain why I suspended you from chat

thecoshman
thecoshman
27229312 19:15:45
oh yeah, please do, I'd love to hear this one

bluefeet
bluefeet
27229335 19:16:41
I told you to stop referring to women as fuck bags and you continued to be derogatory, disrespectful and inappropriate so I suspended you. That type of language and behavior will not be tolerated...period

thecoshman
thecoshman
27229353 19:17:15
except I wasn't. I was clearly saying how such things weren't appropriate.
27229378 19:17:49
mind bring jon in here too?

bluefeet
bluefeet
27229389 19:17:55
I'm sorry but you should have stopped when I said so, yet you continued. That will not be tolerated in chat

thecoshman
thecoshman
27229390 19:17:57
may as well kill two birds with one stone
27229401 19:18:23
what exactly?

Feeds
Feeds
27229405 19:18:25
bluefeet has added Jon Clements to the list of this room's owners.

bluefeet
bluefeet
27229447 19:19:27
@thecoshman your first comment was
27229450 19:19:28
breaking news, you can't dare consider women are more than just fuck bags

thecoshman
thecoshman
27229464 19:20:22
Even without context, that clearly reads as a non-serious comment.

bluefeet
bluefeet
27229473 19:20:43
That is derogatory in any context

thecoshman
thecoshman
27229474 19:20:45
Taken with context, it's a retaliation to the actions taken by Jon
27229480 19:20:53
@bluefeet no, it is not.

bluefeet
bluefeet
27229482 19:20:54
I suspended you, not Jon

thecoshman
thecoshman
27229490 19:21:06
@bluefeet understood
27229508 19:21:54
So let me get this clear, so I can avoid upsetting you again, I can't say things that if taken literally might upset someone?

bluefeet
bluefeet
27229519 19:22:29
@thecoshman I disagree, and I told you to stop but you continued with this
27229521 19:22:30
wait what? Are seriously not allowed to point how we shouldn't consider women to be just there for fucking and nothing more? You're having a fucking laugh right?

thecoshman
thecoshman
27229524 19:22:58
we shouldn't consider women to be just there for fucking and nothing more

bluefeet
bluefeet
27229546 19:23:46
@thecoshman Let me put it this way, chat is supposed to be welcoming to all users if you say something that could be considered inappropriate by a reasonable person, then don't say it

thecoshman
thecoshman
27229547 19:23:48
hands up, I am not the most literate person, but last time I checked, that is saying such considerations about people isn't ok
27229555 19:24:12
@bluefeet a reasonable person would see context

bluefeet
bluefeet
27229556 19:24:13
if you can't discuss it at a water cooler in an office, then it's probably not appropriate for chat
27229565 19:24:46
@thecoshman I read it, calling women fuck bags is just plain wrong regardless of context.

thecoshman
thecoshman
27229579 19:25:14
@bluefeet water coolers are not random one of statements, they are conversations, conversations with context.

bluefeet
bluefeet
27229584 19:25:34
@thecoshman again, that term isn't appropriate...period

thecoshman
thecoshman
27229590 19:25:47
@bluefeet 'fuck bags'?

bluefeet
bluefeet
27229599 19:26:11
@thecoshman in reference to women, yeah don't say it

thecoshman
thecoshman
27229604 19:26:37
even when saying it's not a good attitude?

bluefeet
bluefeet
27229613 19:27:12
Again, chat is to be an environment for everyone, if language is being used that violates our Be Nice policy, it isn't appropriate and we will not allow it

Jon Clements
Jon Clements
27229624 19:27:50
@thecoshman there was also:
27229626 19:27:52
@JerryCoffin Drink more and fuck women

thecoshman
thecoshman
27229643 19:29:07
again, context

bluefeet
bluefeet
27229648 19:29:27
again, tone it down.

thecoshman
thecoshman
27229653 19:29:35
oooh, is this a sexism thing? "Drink more and fuck people", is that better?

bluefeet
bluefeet
27229665 19:30:16
No, this is a being respectful thing. If you can't do it, then you'll be asked to leave

thecoshman
thecoshman
27229676 19:31:11
Respect doesn't mandate dry uptight lack of humour though.

bluefeet
bluefeet
27229699 19:32:36
Point being, be mindful of your language. We will not tolerate users in chat who violate the Be Nice policy.

thecoshman
thecoshman
27229720 19:33:57
Point being, does context mean nothing?
27229736 19:34:50
I get the 'water cooler' environment idea, but is that really meant to be 'can you have this one isolated sentence blasted to random people'?

bluefeet
bluefeet
27229788 19:36:47
It was not a single sentence it was multiple things that you said, and I explicitly told you to stop, yet you didn't. That's the problem! You completely ignored the fact that I told you to stop talking about it, but you proceeded which resulted in your suspension.

thecoshman
thecoshman
27229818 19:38:08
Because you were being an arse and selective reading things, I could do the same here and find grounds to have even you perma-banned
27229826 19:38:28
Conversations are not isolated sentences, they have context.

bluefeet
bluefeet
27229840 19:39:13
@thecoshman I don't think calling me names is going to do you any favors here. I read the conversation, I was in the chatroom when it happened. I told you to stop, you didn't.

thecoshman
thecoshman
27229841 19:39:15
And yes, I was winding you, because the very first action, jon deleting a message, was utter bollocks.

bluefeet
bluefeet
27229843 19:39:32
I deleted the initial message, not Jon

thecoshman
thecoshman
27229855 19:40:16
oh, well either way, it's still utter bollocks
27229889 19:41:57
btw, I specifically mean the message by Jerry...