RDN(BOB)+TEST screwover THORN-Ender

(1:24:34 PM) [email protected]/home: Hio
(1:24:36 PM) [email protected]/home: Hi*
(1:24:46 PM) Ender Fal [Thorn]: hello
(1:25:56 PM) [email protected]/home: Has Argus filled you in?
(1:26:03 PM) Ender Fal [Thorn]: just now yes
(1:26:21 PM) Ender Fal [Thorn]: not 100 on all the details
(1:26:22 PM) [email protected]/home: Would you like to discuss anything?
(1:27:01 PM) Ender Fal [Thorn]: just wondering why we spent all that time soving the space in querious, only to then be asked to give up our home for the past 9+ months, after we just moved back there
(1:27:12 PM) Ender Fal [Thorn]: because of me being in the hospital for a month
(1:27:19 PM) Ender Fal [Thorn]: and letting a couple things get fucked up
(1:28:14 PM) [email protected]/home: I placed a lot of trust into THORN
(1:28:57 PM) Ender Fal [Thorn]: and I admit, mistakes were made, but not because of any willful intent to fuck it up
(1:29:28 PM) Ender Fal [Thorn]: Esoteria drained me, and my guys
(1:29:42 PM) Ender Fal [Thorn]: I never should have taken that on
(1:31:51 PM) [email protected]/home: Well mistakes were made - and they were made largely after I gave THORN a bunch of shit generally viewed as having some value
(1:32:20 PM) Ender Fal [Thorn]: Tbh I am only now just getting a feel for the new sov space in querious
(1:32:54 PM) [email protected]/home: So what are you going to do here?
(1:32:54 PM) Ender Fal [Thorn]: but I know there is some high value stuff there, and if rdn wants that space I tbh have no issue giving it to them
(1:34:54 PM) Ender Fal [Thorn]: But if you really wanting us out of even b-7, the place we have called home since you gave it to us last summer. I don't know what to tell you
(1:35:22 PM) Ender Fal [Thorn]: that is not something I can just make a call on with 5 minutes warning
(1:35:45 PM) [email protected]/home: I talked to Argus and Lucian are day or two ago
(1:36:02 PM) Ender Fal [Thorn]: I did not hear about till about 3-4 min before you convo'd me
(1:36:13 PM) Ender Fal [Thorn]: I'm still getting over pneumonia
(1:36:26 PM) Ender Fal [Thorn]: so i'm nowhere near 100% on anything
(1:36:50 PM) [email protected]/home: Ok v0v
(1:37:00 PM) [email protected]/home: Based on these station names it sounds like your going to be shooting us
(1:37:20 PM) Ender Fal [Thorn]: that is one guy, and he admitted to doing it
(1:37:38 PM) Ender Fal [Thorn]: Argus is just upset that rdn just seems to be doing a land grab
(1:38:15 PM) Ender Fal [Thorn]: unless you want us out of the HBC, i still don't have any intent to shoot anyone aside from who we do already
(1:39:14 PM) [email protected]/home: I don't intend for THORN to be out of the HBC
(1:39:39 PM) Ender Fal [Thorn]: then you don't have to worry about us shooting anything, or hopefully being shot at
(1:40:31 PM) Ender Fal [Thorn]: Tbh what do you want us to do?
(1:40:48 PM) Ender Fal [Thorn]: in the end of the day the recent sov fuckups was one on me with esoteria
(1:41:11 PM) Ender Fal [Thorn]: and kinda on me as I had to use a sov xfer corp and only i had access, so I had to use a guy in acorp not aware of sov bills
(1:41:35 PM) [email protected]/home: I'd like you guys to go live out of Catch, dangerzone for awhile, and show everyone you are awesome
(1:41:46 PM) Ender Fal [Thorn]: we have been in catch
(1:41:50 PM) Ender Fal [Thorn]: we just got back
(1:41:53 PM) [email protected]/home: I mean live
(1:41:57 PM) Ender Fal [Thorn]: we did live there
(1:42:06 PM) Ender Fal [Thorn]: n-8 was home for about 2 months
(1:42:11 PM) Ender Fal [Thorn]: hed before that
(1:42:25 PM) Ender Fal [Thorn]: and how awesome do we need to be?
(1:42:30 PM) Ender Fal [Thorn]: what metric do you use for that
(1:42:39 PM) Ender Fal [Thorn]: running fleets, we do that, joining fleets we do that
(1:42:43 PM) Ender Fal [Thorn]: killing stuff, we do that
(1:42:52 PM) [email protected]/home: When I have people telling me "holy shit THORN are awesome"
(1:43:27 PM) Ender Fal [Thorn]: aside from some people up untill a few days ago from my understanding many guys liked us, got in fleets with us
(1:44:34 PM) [email protected]/home: Tell me when you've had time to consider the issue
(1:44:40 PM) [email protected]/home: I'd like to settle this on Monday at the latest
(1:45:00 PM) Ender Fal [Thorn]: Well like I said if rdn wants all the old Li3 space I don't think there would be any real issue there
(1:45:15 PM) Ender Fal [Thorn]: that would add a couple more r64 to thier stockpile
(1:45:25 PM) Ender Fal [Thorn]: and a lot of cobalt
(1:45:27 PM) [email protected]/home: They want essentially all of Querious
(1:45:50 PM) Ender Fal [Thorn]: we have active super build in b-7 atm
(1:46:02 PM) Ender Fal [Thorn]: and TONS of stuff for more
(1:47:00 PM) [email protected]/home: that can go later
(1:47:03 PM) Ender Fal [Thorn]: b-7 is just a very hard system to give up and would not go well for my guys as they just moved most of the stuff back to there aside from stuff in nol
(1:47:22 PM) [email protected]/home: b-7 doesn't have to be righ taway
(1:47:54 PM) Ender Fal [Thorn]: I'm still not sure, aside from being better at sov, what else your looking for from us
(1:48:29 PM) [email protected]/home: One of my FCs essentially quit because of the THORN fuckups
(1:49:09 PM) Ender Fal [Thorn]: with sov stuff yes?
(1:49:24 PM) [email protected]/home: yeah
(1:50:26 PM) Ender Fal [Thorn]: well most of that was tbh my fault
(1:50:49 PM) Ender Fal [Thorn]: don't fuck the rest of my guys for my issues, please
(1:51:21 PM) [email protected]/home: The wheels shouldn't fall off if you disappear for a few days m8
(1:51:21 PM) Ender Fal [Thorn]: they just want to get in fleets and shoot stuff, and they do that well
(1:51:31 PM) [email protected]/home: and they will still be able to do that
(1:51:32 PM) Ender Fal [Thorn]: I had the wheels
(1:52:47 PM) Ender Fal [Thorn]: as for monday if Rdn wants all the old li3 space I can do that next week, no real issue
(1:53:09 PM) Ender Fal [Thorn]: as for the rest you'll have to forgive me
(1:53:23 PM) Ender Fal [Thorn]: but I'm not going to commit on anything
(1:53:29 PM) [email protected]/home: until when?
(1:54:26 PM) Ender Fal [Thorn]: can't even begin to say, I'd have to have some long talks with other people 1st
(1:55:00 PM) [email protected]/home: The station can come at a later date, but I need an answer on monday