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- #erisia: ~workshop new
- @BB-8-NU: A new workshop session was created
- +Orphic: ~workshop new
- @BB-8-NU: You don't have permission to start workshops (Requires @)
- +Orphic: fuck
- #erisia: LOL
- +Orphic: oh yeah
- +Shadestep: ~workshop add, scarf tyrantrum
- @BB-8-NU: Only the workshop host or a Room Moderator can add Pokemon
- TyrantrumIsBroken: L
- +Shadestep: lame
- #erisia: ~workshop add, Scarf Tyrantrum
- @BB-8-NU: Scarf Tyrantrum added
- TyrantrumIsBroken: whimsicott literally fits on
- TyrantrumIsBroken: every team
- TyrantrumIsBroken: its ridiculous
- #erisia: /log Shadestep was promoted to Room Moderator by erisia.
- #erisia: /log Orphic was promoted to Room Moderator by erisia.
- #erisia: /log nv was promoted to Room Moderator by erisia.
- @nv: :o
- @nv: Ty
- #erisia: /log lucianvega was promoted to Room Moderator by erisia.
- #erisia: /log TyrantrumIsBroken was promoted to Room Voice by erisia.
- @Shadestep: moonblast giga drain u-turn stun spore?
- +TyrantrumIsBroken: or encore
- +TyrantrumIsBroken: but yea
- +TyrantrumIsBroken: 4th is filler
- @lucianvega: encore is nice for setup in case we lock
- @lucianvega: tbh
- #erisia: i'm gonna be working now but tag me if you need me
- +TyrantrumIsBroken: okay
- @lucianvega: gl erisia
- @nv: So we have Scarf TTrum + Whims?
- +TyrantrumIsBroken: if nobody disagrees
- @lucianvega: some fighting type woupd be nice
- @Shadestep: encore is fine
- +Varsen: Whims running offensive or Encore Sub seed toxic/uturn?
- +TyrantrumIsBroken: offense
- @nv: Fighting-type makes us Flying weak right off the bat tho
- @Shadestep: ofensive
- +TyrantrumIsBroken: pixie plate
- +TyrantrumIsBroken: it hits
- +TyrantrumIsBroken: pretty hard too
- @Shadestep: i mean
- @Shadestep: we also need SR
- @Shadestep: so we could use something like rhyperior or
- @Shadestep: defensive omastar
- +TyrantrumIsBroken: or steelix
- @lucianvega: did we get any steel type
- +TyrantrumIsBroken: durant
- +TyrantrumIsBroken: duggy-a
- +TyrantrumIsBroken: steelix and sandslash-a
- @lucianvega: hm omastar a bit redundant
- +TyrantrumIsBroken: we can also use seismitoad
- @lucianvega: oo
- +TyrantrumIsBroken: for a rock resist of our own
- @lucianvega: That sounds cool tbh
- +TyrantrumIsBroken: !ds stealth rock, ru
- +TyrantrumIsBroken: f
- @Shadestep: doesn't work yet
- @Shadestep: since everything is still 'new'
- +TyrantrumIsBroken: ah
- @lucianvega: toad has nice sinergy with 2
- +TyrantrumIsBroken: oh
- +TyrantrumIsBroken: another thing thats rly nice rn is aero
- +TyrantrumIsBroken: but idk how well that fits here
- @Shadestep: i like toed
- @Shadestep: we dont need another ice weak pokemon
- +Varsen: Sorry I fell behind.
- @lucianvega: Ye true we ice weak
- +TyrantrumIsBroken: ~ws
- @BB-8-NU: Unrecognized command: nothing
- +TyrantrumIsBroken: what sucks is
- +Varsen: Offensive Whims Moonblast,Giga,???,???
- +TyrantrumIsBroken: uturn encore
- +Varsen: Ok
- +TyrantrumIsBroken: hmm what do we do vs lead fros
- +Varsen: Sorry don't typically use whims offensively
- @nv: ~workshop team
- @BB-8-NU: Scarf Tyrantrum
- +TyrantrumIsBroken: add pixie plate whimsi
- +TyrantrumIsBroken: i cant
- @Shadestep: ~workshop add offensive whimsicott
- @BB-8-NU: offensive whimsicott added
- +TyrantrumIsBroken: we could always go with shuckle
- +TyrantrumIsBroken: .reliable
- @lucianvega: Id say ahuckle is more for web offense
- +TyrantrumIsBroken: ig
- @Shadestep: yeah shuckle seems really specific
- +TyrantrumIsBroken: i wish we could use registeel
- @Orphic: whats the team so far Shadestep
- @lucianvega: oh ye regi is rly nice
- +TyrantrumIsBroken: scarf ttrum offensive whimsi
- @Shadestep: only scarf tyrantrum and whimsicott
- @Shadestep: offensive pixie plate
- @Orphic: so yeah lets get a steel type
- +TyrantrumIsBroken: oh
- @Orphic: registeel looks good
- +TyrantrumIsBroken: we could do uxie
- +TyrantrumIsBroken: we dnt
- +TyrantrumIsBroken: have registeel
- +TyrantrumIsBroken: [05:03] +TyrantrumIsBroken: i wish we could use registeel
- +TyrantrumIsBroken: = (
- @Orphic: its in the picture
- +TyrantrumIsBroken: where
- @Shadestep: lix?
- +TyrantrumIsBroken: lol
- @Orphic: failing that, lix?
- @Orphic: yeah lix looks fine here tbh
- @Shadestep: we dont have many steel types sadly
- @lucianvega: shadestep btw garb fits well too
- +TyrantrumIsBroken: yep
- @lucianvega: covers fight n poison
- @Shadestep: yeah
- +TyrantrumIsBroken: so does uxie
- @Shadestep: but we do need to watch out for gallade
- +TyrantrumIsBroken: we can use
- +TyrantrumIsBroken: z heal bell
- @lucianvega: tbh gallade has bulk up sub over sawk
- @lucianvega: idk if it runs band set
- +TyrantrumIsBroken: what does
- +TyrantrumIsBroken: gallade or sawk
- @Shadestep: gallade runs SD
- @lucianvega: well, both are pretty dangerous
- +TyrantrumIsBroken: 1 sec
- +TyrantrumIsBroken: calcing smth
- @@Shadestep: sorry
- @@Shadestep: test
- @lucianvega: whims can always encore galad
- @@Shadestep: i think z-heal bell uxie could work here
- +TyrantrumIsBroken: oh
- +TyrantrumIsBroken: what about
- +TyrantrumIsBroken: pallosand
- +TyrantrumIsBroken: !learn pallosand, stealth rock
- @@Shadestep: no that mon is whack
- @lucianvega: what does palosand do
- @@Shadestep: it's like a hippowdown
- @@Shadestep: with a deecent special moveset
- @lucianvega: !dt palosand
- +TyrantrumIsBroken: !learn palosand, stealth rock
- +TyrantrumIsBroken: !learn palossand, stealth rock
- @lucianvega: Id it has rocks would be a bit bettee but meh
- +TyrantrumIsBroken: nvm
- +TyrantrumIsBroken: lol
- @lucianvega: If*
- +TyrantrumIsBroken: its a tauros check
- +TyrantrumIsBroken: 1!
- +TyrantrumIsBroken: !!8
- +TyrantrumIsBroken: ok done
- #erisia: lol
- @lucianvega: Luckily swellow wont be in tier anymore
- @lucianvega: So miltank might be great normal counter in future
- +TyrantrumIsBroken: i think seis would work
- +TyrantrumIsBroken: we have a grass resist
- +Varsen: Oh Swellow is gone?
- +Varsen: Nice.
- +TyrantrumIsBroken: yes
- +Varsen: Hated that damn thing.
- @lucianvega: wel 75 spa boomburst I dont think it would stay here long
- +TyrantrumIsBroken: !dt exploud
- +TyrantrumIsBroken: 91 spa boomburst.
- @nv: Is Exploud in SM NU? :o
- +TyrantrumIsBroken: yes
- @@Shadestep: yep
- @lucianvega: There's so much cool stuff to experiment with man
- @nv: rip switchins
- +TyrantrumIsBroken: mhmm
- +TyrantrumIsBroken: i havent seen
- @nv: I agree lucian
- @lucianvega: Cant wait for alpha
- +TyrantrumIsBroken: 1 exploud
- +TyrantrumIsBroken: ppl just
- +TyrantrumIsBroken: prefer dragalge
- +TyrantrumIsBroken: as a nuclear weapon
- @lucianvega: dragalge is cool for few sets too
- +TyrantrumIsBroken: i use
- +TyrantrumIsBroken: z draco
- +Varsen: I noticed nothing likes coming on Exploud
- +TyrantrumIsBroken: so i can drop 2 draco
- +TyrantrumIsBroken: without spa drop
- +TyrantrumIsBroken: also
- +TyrantrumIsBroken: double dragon
- +TyrantrumIsBroken: is not a bad core
- @lucianvega: I feel its a bit slow for this type of team
- +TyrantrumIsBroken: i guess
- +Varsen: !dt Draco
- +Varsen: Wow.
- +Varsen: !dt Draco Meteor
- +Varsen: God
- +Varsen: That's scary
- +Watchog: then u add adaptability to it
- +Watchog: hmm so we going seis?
- @@Shadestep: yep
- @lucianvega: if u wanna
- +Watchog: sure
- @lucianvega: its a nice mon
- +Watchog: its also
- +Watchog: a decent emboar check if
- +Watchog: its not running GK
- +Watchog: i dont remember how common it is
- +Varsen: Jesus
- @lucianvega: Embroken
- +Watchog: i kind of want another ice check
- @@Shadestep: ~workshop add, Seismitoad
- @BB-8-NU: Seismitoad added
- +Watchog: sneasel demolishes with prior damage on seismitoad
- @@Shadestep: yeah we dont have any
- @@Shadestep: lol
- @lucianvega: hm we need a
- @@Shadestep: i'd say poliwrath but
- @@Shadestep: eh
- @lucianvega: ground immune, special icefire check, psychic and grasspsn
- +Watchog: houndoom
- @@Shadestep: Moltres
- +Watchog: oh
- #erisia: ~workshop team
- @BB-8-NU: Scarf Tyrantrum / offensive whimsicott / Seismitoad
- +Watchog: this cool set i used it was like
- @@Shadestep: moltres + hitmontop?
- +Watchog: physical houndoom
- @@Shadestep: as a spinner
- +Watchog: oo
- +Watchog: technitop
- +Watchog: is fun rn
- +Watchog: idm that
- @lucianvega: lee seems broke
- +Watchog: ya its good
- @@Shadestep: true
- +Watchog: but not as a spinner
- @@Shadestep: but i'd rather have a more reliable spinner
- @lucianvega: yep
- @@Shadestep: to go with moltres
- +Watchog: it like
- +Watchog: runs rapid spin but
- +Watchog: it never clicks it
- @nv: I am fine with Top
- @lucianvega: I wonder if whimsixot can take 2 hits
- +Watchog: kind of like
- +Watchog: primeape
- @lucianvega: From lee
- @nv: Lee is better off sweeping thanks to Unburden
- +Watchog: probably not
- +Watchog: offensive
- +Watchog: i think it does like 60
- @lucianvega: Reckless hjk does ton
- +Watchog: 252 Atk Reckless Hitmonlee High Jump Kick vs. 0 HP / 4 Def Whimsicott: 137-162 (52.4 - 62%) -- 98.4% chance to 2HKO after Leftovers recovery
- +Watchog: hmm
- +Watchog: thoughts on talonflame?
- +Watchog: spd talon
- +Watchog: talon + hitmontop
- @lucianvega: tbh wed prefer a breaker
- @lucianvega: for ttrum to clean
- +Watchog: ~~technitop is a breaker~~
- @@Shadestep: wdym Watchog
- @@Shadestep: [11:17] +Watchog: kind of like
- @@Shadestep: [11:17] +Watchog: primeape
- +Watchog: it has a move but it never clicks it
- +Watchog: just like primeape always clicks uturn
- @lucianvega: Lmfao
- @lucianvega: I can't remember seeing ape clicking cc
- @lucianvega: tbh theorymon for ape bug/fighting
- +Watchog: i like LO moltres
- +Watchog: or even
- +Watchog: agility
- @@Shadestep: ok so hitmontop and moltres
- +Watchog: that works
- @@Shadestep: cool
- @lucianvega: Silvaly steel looks decent now
- @@Shadestep: ~workshop add Hitmontop
- @BB-8-NU: Hitmontop added
- @@Shadestep: ~workshop add Moltres
- @BB-8-NU: Moltres added
- +Watchog: silvally yuck
- @nv: ~workshop team
- @BB-8-NU: Scarf Tyrantrum / offensive whimsicott / Seismitoad / Hitmontop / Moltres
- @lucianvega: covers psychic normal fly adds u turn
- @nv: This looks like a solid team :)
- @nv: !learn silvally, u-turn
- @nv: Oh
- @nv: The more you know
- +Watchog: i guess
- +Watchog: oh
- +Watchog: we lose
- +Watchog: to lucha
- @lucianvega: not necessarily
- @@Shadestep: we should add a bulky psychic
- @@Shadestep: last
- @lucianvega: mush
- +Watchog: if it gets in on like
- @@Shadestep: to cover hitmonlee, sawk, gallade, hawlucha
- +Watchog: hitmontop
- @@Shadestep: musharna
- @@Shadestep: or cress
- @lucianvega: Oo wait
- +Watchog: cress
- +Watchog: o
- @lucianvega: Thwres creselia
- @@Shadestep: yea
- +Watchog: cress is
- +Watchog: immovable object
- @lucianvega: The god
- +Watchog: rn
- +Watchog: we can run
- +Watchog: a cool
- +Watchog: z set
- @lucianvega: that thing covers everything literally
- +Watchog: !dt lunar dance
- +Watchog: F
- +Varsen: So Moltres was the last thing we added
- +Watchog: moltres + top
- @lucianvega: !dt cresselia
- +Watchog: lol
- +Watchog: thats so
- +Watchog: fat
- +Watchog: for no reason
- @@Shadestep: yeah
- @lucianvega: This even checks
- @lucianvega: Fire ice
- @lucianvega: Rofl
- +Watchog: so does
- +Watchog: munchlax.
- @lucianvega: ,
- @@Shadestep: ..
- +Watchog: are we running
- +Watchog: some calm mind cress action
- @lucianvega: sure, gotta beat other psychics 1v1
- +Watchog: !dt magic coat
- +Watchog: oooo
- +Watchog: i like dis
- @lucianvega: tbh both silvaly and this fits for last
- +Varsen: So what's the pick? I could see Cress being useful either way.
- +Watchog: i think cress
- @lucianvega: Cress
- +Watchog: is more reliable
- @lucianvega: Bcz fightinf types
- +Watchog: is someone gonna post this
- +Watchog: on the thread
- @lucianvega: I dont have pc so rip
- @@Shadestep: i can post it
- +Watchog: ok
- @@Shadestep: just don't know the moltres and cresselia set
- +Watchog: what top set are we using
- @@Shadestep: i'd like a more bulky moltres
- @@Shadestep: hmm
- +Varsen: I'm using a timid agility set I might go modest for the power, but timid sits at 349
- +Watchog: on what??
- +Varsen: Moltres sorry
- +Watchog: o
- +Varsen: Back once I hit Agility it's 612 speed
- @@Shadestep: hmm
- @@Shadestep: i think i'll use yogibears' set
- @@Shadestep: life orb roost
- +Watchog: thats what i was thinking
- +Varsen: I was thinking even putting Sunny day on Whimscott to support Moltres and give it more power
- @@Shadestep: also; just max physdef cress?
- +Watchog: ye
- +Watchog: wait isnt it cm
- @lucianvega: if u give it sunny day it misses al hurricanes
- +Watchog: do we want any
- @@Shadestep: it cm
- @@Shadestep: hmm
- +Watchog: spa on it
- @@Shadestep: nah
- @lucianvega: Max def tbh
- +Watchog: okie
- @lucianvega: or mixed idk creselia sets
- @@Shadestep: and hitmontop?
- +Watchog: spin/toxic/mach punch/filler
- +Watchog: i was thinking
- @lucianvega: I think its
- @lucianvega: Cc spin foresight
- @@Shadestep: what ev's
- +Watchog: oh
- +Watchog: tur
- +Watchog: tru
- @lucianvega: Like max hp max def
- +Watchog: max defense
- +Watchog: yep
- @@Shadestep: cc rapid spin foresight toxic
- @@Shadestep: ok
- +Watchog: yes
- @@Shadestep: what about the seismitoad
- @@Shadestep: spdef right
- @lucianvega: Bold too
- +Watchog: hmm
- @@Shadestep: really?
- +Watchog: do we need
- @lucianvega: Yea standard
- +Watchog: hitmontop + seis
- @@Shadestep: i think spdef is better
- @@Shadestep: we already have a solid ttrum switchin now
- @lucianvega: idk how much spdef does bcz coverage moves kil it
- @lucianvega: Reminds me of spded gastro
- +Watchog: gotta hop off
- +Watchog: gl with rest of team
- @lucianvega: But ur right team has 3 def mons
- @@Shadestep: ok i'll post the team
- @@Shadestep: thanks all :)
- @@Shadestep: ~workshop add cresselia
- @BB-8-NU: cresselia added
- @@Shadestep: ~workshop team
- @BB-8-NU: Scarf Tyrantrum / offensive whimsicott / Seismitoad / Hitmontop / Moltres / cresselia
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