11:19 PM - =[pG]= Jay | prestige-gaming.org: Not really sure what to say / reply
11:19 PM - =[pG]= Jay | prestige-gaming.org: onto your thread
11:19 PM - =[pG]= Jay | prestige-gaming.org: Our coding lead Jon doesn't really dev for TF2
11:19 PM - =[pG]= Jay | prestige-gaming.org: Like he could
11:19 PM - =[pG]= Jay | prestige-gaming.org: Since Sourcepawn for csgo and tf2 are similar
11:19 PM - =[pG]= Jay | prestige-gaming.org: Since it's sourcemod.
11:19 PM - =[pG]= Jay | prestige-gaming.org: Only some game dependent stuff differs
11:20 PM - =[pG]= Jay | prestige-gaming.org: Like I myself don't code I like the game TF2 and enjoy it when I do but Can't play it alot.
11:20 PM - =[pG]= Jay | prestige-gaming.org: Like I wish I could help out but I don't get the motivation to do anything ;/
11:20 PM - =[pG]= Spawn-Camping Heavy: Yeah.
11:20 PM - =[pG]= Spawn-Camping Heavy: Well like I said.
11:20 PM - =[pG]= Spawn-Camping Heavy: It's not an indictment of you or anyone else.
11:21 PM - =[pG]= Jay | prestige-gaming.org: Like
11:21 PM - =[pG]= Spawn-Camping Heavy: Maybe I should clarify that.
11:21 PM - =[pG]= Jay | prestige-gaming.org: The idea of seding the server
11:21 PM - =[pG]= Jay | prestige-gaming.org: seeding*
11:21 PM - =[pG]= Jay | prestige-gaming.org: was dcent
11:21 PM - =[pG]= Jay | prestige-gaming.org: decent*
11:21 PM - =[pG]= Jay | prestige-gaming.org: But needs like abdul approval
11:21 PM - =[pG]= Jay | prestige-gaming.org: and abdul being like mia a lot
11:21 PM - =[pG]= Jay | prestige-gaming.org: he can't really do much to help.
11:23 PM - =[pG]= Spawn-Camping Heavy: That's another thing.
11:23 PM - =[pG]= Spawn-Camping Heavy: Abdul is away too much.
11:23 PM - =[pG]= Spawn-Camping Heavy: It's time he gives trusted people the ability to take action in his absence.
11:23 PM - =[pG]= Jay | prestige-gaming.org: and KitKat is on vaction atm.
11:23 PM - =[pG]= Jay | prestige-gaming.org: Jon
11:23 PM - =[pG]= Jay | prestige-gaming.org: Won't do anything for TF2 imo
11:24 PM - =[pG]= Jay | prestige-gaming.org: Gambit probly won't do anything
11:24 PM - =[pG]= Jay | prestige-gaming.org: Deus is gmod
11:24 PM - =[pG]= Jay | prestige-gaming.org: I'm mapping
11:24 PM - =[pG]= Jay | prestige-gaming.org: So meap
11:24 PM - =[pG]= Jay | prestige-gaming.org: Can't really add maps too 24//7 servers
11:24 PM - =[pG]= Spawn-Camping Heavy: Yeah, this is entirely the issue.
11:24 PM - =[pG]= Spawn-Camping Heavy: Everyone has their own niche.
11:24 PM - =[pG]= Spawn-Camping Heavy: But none of those niches intersect with TF2.
11:25 PM - =[pG]= Jay | prestige-gaming.org: :/
11:25 PM - =[pG]= Jay | prestige-gaming.org: I mean I'm surpized we haven't
11:25 PM - =[pG]= Jay | prestige-gaming.org: removed the servers
11:25 PM - =[pG]= Spawn-Camping Heavy: We're all pretty frustrated and we don't want the servers to die.
11:25 PM - =[pG]= Jay | prestige-gaming.org: Like To be honest
11:25 PM - =[pG]= Jay | prestige-gaming.org: If they die or not I don't care but I'd be glad if they did succeed
11:25 PM - =[pG]= Jay | prestige-gaming.org: I don't want them to die. But It's not gonna kill me
11:27 PM - =[pG]= Spawn-Camping Heavy: I offered Abdul the chance to sell me the servers.
11:27 PM - =[pG]= Jay | prestige-gaming.org: Can't really
11:27 PM - =[pG]= Jay | prestige-gaming.org: There all on a box
11:27 PM - =[pG]= Spawn-Camping Heavy: There's no way to transfer ownership?
11:27 PM - =[pG]= Spawn-Camping Heavy: They're subscription based, right?
11:27 PM - =[pG]= Jay | prestige-gaming.org: The thing is
11:27 PM - =[pG]= Jay | prestige-gaming.org: we have 2 boxes
11:27 PM - =[pG]= Jay | prestige-gaming.org: Linux
11:27 PM - =[pG]= Jay | prestige-gaming.org: and windows
11:28 PM - =[pG]= Jay | prestige-gaming.org: Those 2 boxes
11:28 PM - =[pG]= Jay | prestige-gaming.org: have all of our gameservers
11:28 PM - =[pG]= Jay | prestige-gaming.org: cs
11:28 PM - =[pG]= Jay | prestige-gaming.org: tf
11:28 PM - =[pG]= Jay | prestige-gaming.org: gm
11:28 PM - =[pG]= Spawn-Camping Heavy: Ah.
11:28 PM - =[pG]= Spawn-Camping Heavy: I see the issue.
11:28 PM - =[pG]= Spawn-Camping Heavy: How about this.
11:28 PM - =[pG]= Jay | prestige-gaming.org: I mean
11:28 PM - =[pG]= Jay | prestige-gaming.org: I doubt it
11:28 PM - =[pG]= Jay | prestige-gaming.org: But like
11:28 PM - =[pG]= Jay | prestige-gaming.org: You could
11:29 PM - =[pG]= Jay | prestige-gaming.org: Become a sister org of pG
11:29 PM - =[pG]= Jay | prestige-gaming.org: like you are in pG
11:29 PM - =[pG]= Spawn-Camping Heavy: I know there's a way to redirect a previous server IP to a new IP?
11:29 PM - =[pG]= Jay | prestige-gaming.org: But are Tf2 only
11:29 PM - =[pG]= Jay | prestige-gaming.org: Where like
11:29 PM - =[pG]= Jay | prestige-gaming.org: You have to pay for them
11:29 PM - =[pG]= Jay | prestige-gaming.org: You have the access
11:29 PM - =[pG]= Jay | prestige-gaming.org: But we kinda also manage it
11:29 PM - =[pG]= Spawn-Camping Heavy: I would be willing to do that.
11:29 PM - =[pG]= Jay | prestige-gaming.org: You'd have to talk to pG
11:29 PM - =[pG]= Spawn-Camping Heavy: I have the funds and resources.
11:29 PM - =[pG]= Jay | prestige-gaming.org: but I doubit it hapen
11:29 PM - =[pG]= Spawn-Camping Heavy: I mean.
11:29 PM - =[pG]= Spawn-Camping Heavy: Something has to happen.
11:30 PM - =[pG]= Spawn-Camping Heavy: Why pay for something you don't care about anymore?
11:30 PM - =[pG]= Spawn-Camping Heavy: It makes no sense.
11:30 PM - =[pG]= Jay | prestige-gaming.org: The pirce
11:30 PM - =[pG]= Jay | prestige-gaming.org: price
11:30 PM - =[pG]= Jay | prestige-gaming.org: doesn't change
11:30 PM - =[pG]= Jay | prestige-gaming.org: if we have them or not
11:30 PM - =[pG]= Jay | prestige-gaming.org: Remember
11:30 PM - =[pG]= Jay | prestige-gaming.org: we pay for the 2 boxes
11:30 PM - =[pG]= Jay | prestige-gaming.org: We pay
11:30 PM - =[pG]= Spawn-Camping Heavy: I see.
11:30 PM - =[pG]= Jay | prestige-gaming.org: the price for those
11:30 PM - =[pG]= Jay | prestige-gaming.org: and
11:30 PM - =[pG]= Jay | prestige-gaming.org: If we add or remove
11:30 PM - =[pG]= Jay | prestige-gaming.org: servers
11:30 PM - =[pG]= Spawn-Camping Heavy: That must be the only reason why TF2 hasn't been removed then.
11:30 PM - =[pG]= Jay | prestige-gaming.org: doesn't increase price
11:30 PM - =[pG]= Jay | prestige-gaming.org: But
11:30 PM - =[pG]= Jay | prestige-gaming.org: increase
11:30 PM - =[pG]= Jay | prestige-gaming.org: resource use
11:31 PM - =[pG]= Jay | prestige-gaming.org: CPU an ram
11:31 PM - =[pG]= Jay | prestige-gaming.org: and storage
11:31 PM - =[pG]= Jay | prestige-gaming.org: but storage isn't much
11:31 PM - =[pG]= Spawn-Camping Heavy: I'm sure it's not a one-time fee though.
11:31 PM - =[pG]= Spawn-Camping Heavy: For the upgrade.
11:31 PM - =[pG]= Spawn-Camping Heavy: Right?
11:31 PM - =[pG]= Jay | prestige-gaming.org: Hm?
11:31 PM - =[pG]= Jay | prestige-gaming.org: IT doesn't
11:31 PM - =[pG]= Jay | prestige-gaming.org: affect
11:31 PM - =[pG]= Jay | prestige-gaming.org: cost at all
11:31 PM - =[pG]= Jay | prestige-gaming.org: Like ur pc
11:31 PM - =[pG]= Jay | prestige-gaming.org: has a cpu
11:31 PM - =[pG]= Jay | prestige-gaming.org: and ram
11:31 PM - =[pG]= Jay | prestige-gaming.org: It's like application
11:32 PM - =[pG]= Jay | prestige-gaming.org: like steam
11:32 PM - =[pG]= Jay | prestige-gaming.org: chrome
11:32 PM - =[pG]= Jay | prestige-gaming.org: firefox
11:32 PM - =[pG]= Spawn-Camping Heavy: Oh, I see.
11:32 PM - =[pG]= Jay | prestige-gaming.org: the more u run
11:32 PM - =[pG]= Jay | prestige-gaming.org: The more ur pc needs to run those all
11:32 PM - =[pG]= Spawn-Camping Heavy: So you just purchased a unit with more resources available.
11:32 PM - =[pG]= Jay | prestige-gaming.org: no
11:32 PM - =[pG]= Jay | prestige-gaming.org: no
11:32 PM - =[pG]= Jay | prestige-gaming.org: We have the 2 units
11:32 PM - =[pG]= Jay | prestige-gaming.org: Were not even using all of our resources
11:32 PM - =[pG]= Jay | prestige-gaming.org: We can
11:32 PM - =[pG]= Jay | prestige-gaming.org: Expand
11:32 PM - =[pG]= Jay | prestige-gaming.org: But there is no need
11:32 PM - =[pG]= Jay | prestige-gaming.org: We want to develop what we have now
11:33 PM - =[pG]= Spawn-Camping Heavy: Well, at any rate, you may want to discuss this further with other leadership members. Something has to be done.
11:33 PM - =[pG]= Spawn-Camping Heavy: We're in limbo right now.
11:33 PM - =[pG]= Jay | prestige-gaming.org: Yea
11:34 PM - =[pG]= Spawn-Camping Heavy: And I implore you to discuss it as fast as possible, if you can.
11:35 PM - =[pG]= Spawn-Camping Heavy: I'm not trying to impose.
11:35 PM - =[pG]= Spawn-Camping Heavy: We're just desperate.
11:35 PM - =[pG]= Spawn-Camping Heavy: It's a plea of passion.
11:36 PM - =[pG]= Jay | prestige-gaming.org: I can't really do much
11:36 PM - =[pG]= Jay | prestige-gaming.org: Like
11:36 PM - =[pG]= Jay | prestige-gaming.org: Idk how to help the tf2 servers
11:36 PM - =[pG]= Jay | prestige-gaming.org: There 24/7 server
11:36 PM - =[pG]= Jay | prestige-gaming.org: One map
11:36 PM - =[pG]= Jay | prestige-gaming.org: samne
11:36 PM - =[pG]= Jay | prestige-gaming.org: thing over an over
11:36 PM - =[pG]= Jay | prestige-gaming.org: also
11:36 PM - =[pG]= Jay | prestige-gaming.org: tf2 is slowly dieing
11:36 PM - =[pG]= Jay | prestige-gaming.org: due to new games
11:36 PM - =[pG]= Jay | prestige-gaming.org: and people losing interest
11:36 PM - =[pG]= Spawn-Camping Heavy: Player counts have been pretty consistent for a while, it's just harder on community servers because of decisions Valve has made.
11:39 PM - =[pG]= Spawn-Camping Heavy: I can pose a few suggestions if you'd be willing to pass it on to other leadership members to deliberate on it.
11:40 PM - =[pG]= Spawn-Camping Heavy: One is that the sourcemod files for our server are transferred to a new host under my control, using another SM plug-in to redirect the existing servers to the new ones.
11:40 PM - =[pG]= Spawn-Camping Heavy: Another is to simply promote someone passionate about TF2 to a leadership position with the authority to take action.
11:41 PM - =[pG]= Jay | prestige-gaming.org: Ehh
11:41 PM - =[pG]= Jay | prestige-gaming.org: But
11:41 PM - =[pG]= Jay | prestige-gaming.org: We don't really have people to promote
11:41 PM - =[pG]= Jay | prestige-gaming.org: to that
11:41 PM - =[pG]= Jay | prestige-gaming.org: They have to have
11:41 PM - =[pG]= Jay | prestige-gaming.org: knowledge
11:41 PM - =[pG]= Jay | prestige-gaming.org: in sourcepawn
11:41 PM - =[pG]= Jay | prestige-gaming.org: TF2
11:41 PM - =[pG]= Jay | prestige-gaming.org: Community Servers
11:41 PM - =[pG]= Spawn-Camping Heavy: I can find someone.
11:42 PM - =[pG]= Jay | prestige-gaming.org: They'd have to be trusted
11:42 PM - =[pG]= Jay | prestige-gaming.org: by abdul
11:42 PM - =[pG]= Jay | prestige-gaming.org: lmao
11:42 PM - =[pG]= Jay | prestige-gaming.org: an that's hard
11:43 PM - =[pG]= Spawn-Camping Heavy: Well, we shouldn't be ruling anything out yet. These are suggestions; if Abdul and the others thing it won't work out, then so be it. But it should be discussed at any rate.
11:43 PM - =[pG]= Spawn-Camping Heavy: *think