[09:20:46] <Cody> btw bud really did tell pew that we were warring you
[09:20:49] <Cody> and i asked pet to stay out
[09:21:01] <Cody> obviously he thinks he is in the right to wave us before u did
[09:21:05] <Mansoor> fuck man i told silva to wave us hostile only way
[09:21:12] <Cody> dude u are 3m NW bigger than us
[09:21:20] <Cody> u are waving us, not the other way around
[09:21:25] <Cody> but now things are fucked
[09:21:48] <Mansoor> if you would tell us when you were coming out yes
[09:21:51] <Mansoor> but nothing from you
[09:22:23] <Cody> u knew when we were coming out
[09:22:31] <Cody> you knew when HoH war ended
[09:22:47] <Mansoor> yes we did, but i have a gheto, can't wave at a specific time
[09:22:53] <Mansoor> has to suite us swedes
[09:23:07] <Cody> okay just dont blame us for pewpews actions
[09:23:14] <Cody> i told pet our plans loud and clear
[09:23:16] <Cody> and he waved us regardless
[09:23:40] <Mansoor> petri is a dick
[09:23:43] <Mansoor> everyone knows it
[09:23:46] <Mansoor> silva knows it
[09:42:42] <Cody> hey mansoor, i see u guys are hitting. if ur gunna give button, then great. if you arent, then why are u hitting
[09:43:03] <Mansoor> silva told us to hit
[09:43:15] <Cody> so either go the whole 9 yards or not at all
[09:44:30] <Mansoor> silva fucking told us to hit
[09:44:39] <Mansoor> i have a war plan i will stick to it
[09:44:47] <Cody> silva told u to give button, not to just take free hits while pew keeps waving
[09:45:31] <Mansoor> silva didn't say anything of that
[09:45:38] <Mansoor> i have whatsapp convo where i told him to wave me
[09:45:52] <Cody> 18.5m to 15.5m
[09:45:53] <Mansoor> and that i would be fortified
[09:45:59] <Cody> and that we just ate a wave from another kd
[09:46:09] <Mansoor> still he didn't take a cf
[09:46:10] <Mansoor> i offered
[10:10:38] <Cody> hey mansoor, i think you are being unreasonable. you claim that you want war, that you are pumped for war. yet you expect us to give the button? you got 3m NW on us, thats 20% bigger. we just ate a wave from pewpew, so we are even more weakened then we were before. why are u so reluctant to get this started
[10:12:00] <Mansoor> cause i feel this was your plan all along, to force us to give you button so you can declare and get upperhand. fuck that. i told silva this from the start, i can send you whatsapp conversation, that i will be in fort and to stop petrified from being an asshole he has to wave us. my whole strat is based on having you oow for a day or two
[10:12:16] <Mansoor> or my kd with their activity will loose for sure...which we might anyway
[10:12:40] <Cody> you guys been #1 for a long time, pumping way more than us. i told you a few times now that i did NOT want pew to wave us? why would i think thats a good idea?
[10:12:53] <Cody> you already got a 20% NW advantage, you think ur gunna get the button as well?
[10:13:00] <Cody> cmon dont be ridiculous
[10:13:27] <Mansoor> you have wasted 2 week pump for us, first warring hoh, we stayed out, then another week now. we offered cf you decliend
[10:13:34] <Mansoor> nw is nothing ffs
[10:13:40] <Mansoor> look at your dwarves and humans
[10:13:43] <Mansoor> they are fucking big
[10:13:46] <Mansoor> i am not stupid
[10:13:53] <Mansoor> i know when i will loose a battle
[10:13:56] <Mansoor> give us button
[10:14:01] <Mansoor> we give you unfriendly
[10:14:10] <Mansoor> we will hit withing 36 hours
[10:14:14] <Cody> haha okay mansoor lets negotiate an extended cf then
[10:14:56] <Mansoor> Cf now? when you wasted 1 week of my sci pump?
[10:15:04] <Mansoor> when my whole kd is pumped and need land?
[10:15:10] <Mansoor> yeah give us 10k acres and we cf
[10:15:17] <Cody> dude we did not waste your time. we told you we wanted war. it was the truth. now we ate a wave from pewpew and u still wont give button
[10:15:26] <Cody> so forget the past, moving forward im trying to do whats best for everyone
[10:15:40] <Mansoor> i told silva all this would happen
[10:15:46] <Cody> well u could have waved on 20th
[10:15:48] <Cody> but u let pewpew wave
[10:15:49] <Mansoor> he has played with petrified and knows what an asshole he is
[10:15:54] <Cody> even if u made just 1 attack it was hostile action
[10:16:04] <Cody> thats fine, we also talked to pet and thought he was gunna stay out
[10:16:11] <Cody> thats why we were so surprised when they waved
[10:16:14] <Mansoor> My kd can't be online on 20th, most are out with their families. i have a kd full of fathers
[10:16:21] <Cody> sure we knew it was a possibility.... but we didnt expect it to happen
[10:16:22] <Mansoor> i told silva i wouldn't wave
[10:16:30] <Mansoor> i would be in fortified waiting for hostile
[10:16:38] <Mansoor> as that was only way to keep petrified away
[10:16:44] <Cody> well it didnt work did it
[10:16:46] <Mansoor> i told him i would never give button
[10:16:50] <Mansoor> all this you already know
[10:16:53] <Cody> because sitting in fort allowed pew to wave
[10:17:06] <Mansoor> well that is your problem now isn't it?
[10:17:15] <Mansoor> cause you didn't wave us allowed pew to wave
[10:17:20] <Cody> sounds like its your problem, because u are the one complainng that we wasted 2 of ur weeks to pump
[10:17:25] <Mansoor> evne if i hit on 20th pew would have said they were first
[10:17:41] <Cody> if u dont wanna war, then lets cf. end of story really
[10:17:57] <Mansoor> ok, give me 10k acres and i will cf
[10:17:58] <Cody> u think this war will be easy from our perspective? u got 3m NW on us, u say NW is nothing but dont be silly
[10:18:01] <Cody> lol no
[10:18:07] <Mansoor> then no cf
[10:18:11] <Mansoor> cf pew instead
[10:18:32] <Mansoor> give us button and pew will go away
[10:18:46] <Cody> take ur 10k acres
[10:19:19] <Mansoor> ?
[10:19:30] <Cody> you want 10k acres for a cf? take them
[10:19:56] <Mansoor> lol with your history how am I even going to believe you
[10:20:04] <Mansoor> you are dealbreakers will break it again
[10:20:11] <Cody> what do u want from me then
[10:20:18] <Cody> im jumping through hoops for you
[10:20:24] <Mansoor> give us button
[10:20:24] <Cody> and you arent meeting me halfway
[10:20:27] <Mansoor> pewpew will back off
[10:20:49] <Mansoor> then we take it from there
[10:20:59] <Cody> 2 options: a) you give button; b) we cf
[10:21:01] <Cody> its pretty simple
[10:21:09] <Mansoor> lol no
[10:21:13] <Cody> im being fair here, you arent
[10:21:25] <Mansoor> there is only one option
[10:21:25] <Cody> you want to start a war being 20% bigger, get button, AND have us weakened by pew ?
[10:21:36] <Mansoor> a) you give us button we promise to declare withing 36 hours
[10:21:55] <Mansoor> weakened, we see it as they just took our acres and pumped you up
[10:22:10] <Cody> when this all goes down, you are going to look really foolish demanding the button from a kd 20% smaller than you
[10:22:20] <Cody> and it will reflect poorly on your kds credibility
[10:22:53] <Mansoor> i got logs to prove that i told silva all this would happen, and told him to cf us. he said no, we are coming for you
[10:23:14] <Cody> and ive got the logs of our conversation right now. and you are being foolish
[10:23:28] <Cody> what was agreed in the past is no longer relevant
[10:23:33] <Cody> considering pew just waved, everythings changed
[10:23:51] <Mansoor> 	Silva:  wolf does not care about the opinion of the sheep. you shitplayed us,
[10:23:57] <Mansoor> that is what silva wrote to us
[10:24:17] <Cody> you deny trying to interfere with our HoH war?
[10:24:23] <Cody> becuase thats what it was in reference to
[10:24:34] <Cody> you guys tried to hit HoH so we couldnt declare on them, so u could try to farm us
[10:24:40] <Mansoor> lol, if we wanted we would have waved into your war
[10:24:44] <Cody> classy
[10:25:00] <Mansoor> lol, did you see the hits we made on hoh? didn't even wave them from normal
[10:25:06] <Mansoor> it was free hits we took it
[10:25:17] <Mansoor> but we told them we can't drop them out of range
[10:25:49] <Cody> Here is my problem. we cannot give u button while pew is waving us. its suicide to give u guys relations while pew is still hitting us. can you appreciate that?
[10:26:07] <Mansoor> pewpew will back off if you give us button
[10:26:31] <Cody> why would they? they are 100% in the right to keep hitting us
[10:26:39] <Cody> they started a hostile with us, and we would choose to start another hostile
[10:26:47] <Cody> they are 100% allowed to keep hitting, i would if i was them
[10:26:50] <Cody> and so would you
[10:32:52] <Mansoor> well there is no way around this i cannot fucking give you button
[10:33:17] <Cody> then i guess we cannot war
[10:33:34] <Cody> we cannot come out and give u button while pew is waving, and u cannot give us button cuz i dont know why
[10:33:54] <Mansoor> I fucking told silva this
[10:33:58] <Mansoor> I FUCKING TOLD HIM
[10:34:05] <Cody> mansoor please stop yelling and cursing
[10:34:07] <Mansoor> why the fuck didn't you listen?
[10:34:09] <Cody> this wont make the situation any better
[10:34:20] <Mansoor> ok you are right
[10:34:24] <Mansoor> I get pissed man
[10:34:25] <Cody> to be honest, we expected pewpew to stay out and SWEA to wave
[10:34:30] <Mansoor> no
[10:34:31] <Cody> i know, im not very happy myself
[10:34:32] <Mansoor> you didn't
[10:34:34] <Cody> yes i did
[10:34:39] <Mansoor> petrified told you twice he would hit
[10:35:28] <Cody> okay, well moving forward... what do u want to happen here. u are much bigger but reluctant to give button. we cannot give button cuz being waved by pewpew. so options are either u give button or we cf
[10:35:36] <Cody> there is nothing else that i can agree to really
[10:35:53] <Cody> you may be thinking that you got the short end of the stick, but i can assure you the situation is much worse on my end
[10:35:53] <Mansoor> you have to give us button
[10:35:57] <Mansoor> we will push it
[10:38:21] <Mansoor> we will push the button within 24-36 hours
[10:38:34] <Cody> didnt u just say that u were pumping for 2 weeks?
[10:38:37] <Cody> so why the delay
[10:38:44] <Mansoor> we have been waving
[10:38:49] <Mansoor> and you got bigger provinces
[10:38:55] <Mansoor> need to soften them up before war or you win
[10:38:59] <Mansoor> we dont want you to know when we declare
[10:39:13] <Cody> how do we have bigger provs, but you got 20k more acres than us and 3m more NW ?
[10:39:16] <Cody> thats what i dont understand
[10:39:26] <Mansoor> jeez look at your core
[10:39:38] <Mansoor> if you get button and wave down biggest they will be hard to get down
[10:39:53] <Mansoor> i gotta go
[10:39:56] <Mansoor> talk to jsane on absnet
[10:39:58] <Cody> give UF and we will give button
[10:41:01] <Cody> jsane isnt on
[10:41:15] <Mansoor> on absnet
[10:41:19] <Mansoor> we dont trust you anymore, you act first
[10:41:22] <Mansoor> and we will follow
[10:41:25] <Mansoor> you got my word
[10:42:30] <Mansoor> talk to jsane on irc.absalomalliance.com
[10:42:46] <Cody> thx
[11:46:05] <Mansoor> so give us unfriendly and we will give you unfriendly
[11:46:17] <Mansoor> from there we might give you button after a while
[11:46:20] <Cody> we arent warring anymore mansoor
[12:17:12] <Mansoor> give us button and we will declare for our second wave
[12:17:16] <Cody> we arent warring anymore mansoor
[12:17:27] <Mansoor> your choice