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  1. **** BEGIN LOGGING AT Sun Jan 01 23:34:15 2012
  2.  
  3. Jan 01 23:34:15 *       Now talking on #bitme.help
  4. Jan 01 23:34:15 *       Topic for #bitme.help is: OFFICIAL BITME HELP CHANNEL: Help for site members ONLY.NO idling, PMing staff, or invite requests, IP bans are not lifted. State your username & problem for help and wait for a reply. Please Use Your Site Nick. Join #bitmetv.help for BITMETV.org issues. DO NOT IDLE IN THIS CHANNE
  5. Jan 01 23:34:15 *       Topic for #bitme.help set by wOLF at Sat Sep 17 11:59:02 2011
  6. Jan 01 23:34:19 <Groxxxy>       BlueBunny hi
  7. Jan 01 23:34:27 <&BlueBunny>    hello
  8. Jan 01 23:34:30 <Groxxxy>       You have received a warning for 14 days from BlueBunny
  9. Jan 01 23:34:35 <Groxxxy>       Reason: Uploading a dupe while adding some files and then reporting the original
  10. Jan 01 23:34:36 <&BlueBunny>    yes
  11. Jan 01 23:34:41 <Groxxxy>       ..i was trumping
  12. Jan 01 23:35:08 <&BlueBunny>    wth is that?
  13. Jan 01 23:35:26 <Groxxxy>       thats like anywhere. you're replacing an incomplete copy with a complete one
  14. Jan 01 23:35:52 <&BlueBunny>    well there was no need and no permission to do so
  15. Jan 01 23:36:17 <&BlueBunny>    you could have just upped the missing files
  16. Jan 01 23:36:31 <Groxxxy>       that's messy
  17. Jan 01 23:36:53 <Groxxxy>       this is awkward
  18. Jan 01 23:37:00 <&BlueBunny>    and you did not ask for permission either
  19. Jan 01 23:37:39 <Groxxxy>       i'm replacing an incomplete copy with a complete copy after somebody in the comments complained
  20. Jan 01 23:37:46 <Groxxxy>       this is reasonable
  21. Jan 01 23:38:52 <&BlueBunny>    he did not complain, he merely asked if the uploader had the so called missing files aswell
  22. Jan 01 23:39:27 <Groxxxy>       so you fix this at bitme just by uploading some unorganised files?
  23. Jan 01 23:40:50 <&BlueBunny>    no we play by the rules here, if you would have come here, or had sent a msg to the mods asking for permission to upload said files there would not have been an issue, seeing as 66% of your upload is a dupe
  24. Jan 01 23:41:47 <Groxxxy>       can you show me for next time where it says this in the rules please
  25. Jan 01 23:42:40 <&BlueBunny>    http://www.bitme.org/faq.php#86
  26. Jan 01 23:43:31 <&BlueBunny>    seems pretty clear to me
  27. Jan 01 23:44:58 <Groxxxy>       i'm deducing from that that it's neither dead or packaged differently
  28. Jan 01 23:45:36 <Groxxxy>       i'm making the release better for everyone here
  29. Jan 01 23:46:09 <Groxxxy>       did you just want me to approach you and ask for permission/notifying you that i'll be replacing something with something better?
  30. Jan 01 23:46:44 <&BlueBunny>    yes
  31. Jan 01 23:47:26 <&BlueBunny>    otherwise people will start upping "better" stuff when they feel like it
  32. Jan 01 23:47:31 <Groxxxy>       what changes if i notify you after with a torrent report explaining what just happened and what i've thoughtfully done?
  33. Jan 01 23:47:54 <Groxxxy>       it is 100% better. undeniable
  34. Jan 01 23:48:00 <Groxxxy>       complete.
  35. Jan 01 23:48:18 <Groxxxy>       a trump
  36. Jan 01 23:48:20 <&BlueBunny>    not much, but not everyone that thinks they have a better torrent actually does have a better torrent
  37. Jan 01 23:48:53 <Groxxxy>       in this example i am not everyone thinking i have something better but i am me knowing i have a 100% complete retail release
  38. Jan 01 23:49:10 <Groxxxy>       can you see?
  39. Jan 01 23:49:34 <&Drisanna>     I am knowing that arguing with mods over the rules and procedures isn't the worlds best ever idea.  
  40. Jan 01 23:49:48 <&Drisanna>     But I'll shut up now.  Just my opinion.  
  41. Jan 01 23:49:53 <&BlueBunny>    well if you just had pm'd the mods at http://www.bitme.org/contactmod.php explaining your case there would not have been an issue
  42. Jan 01 23:50:22 <Groxxxy>       there is no issue to have began with if i can talk freely for the sake of complete knowledge and information
  43. Jan 01 23:50:35 <Groxxxy>       i am improving the site's content
  44. Jan 01 23:50:54 <&BlueBunny>    but that does not excuse you from following the rules
  45. Jan 01 23:51:24 <Groxxxy>       i'm sorry but my upload is neither replacng something dead nor is it differently packaged in a new format
  46. Jan 01 23:51:33 <Groxxxy>       i do not fall under your two bullet points
  47. Jan 01 23:51:50 <&BlueBunny>    66% of your upload is a dupe
  48. Jan 01 23:52:11 <&BlueBunny>    with new files added, this makes it a differently packed upload
  49. Jan 01 23:52:37 <Groxxxy>       will you allow this to exists since i'm hear talking to you?
  50. Jan 01 23:52:45 <Groxxxy>       asking for permission
  51. Jan 01 23:53:24 <&BlueBunny>    yes follow the rules as in the faq and add [approved by BlueBUnny]
  52. Jan 01 23:53:44 <Groxxxy>       in the torrent description i presume
  53. Jan 01 23:53:52 <&BlueBunny>    yes
  54. Jan 01 23:53:53 <Groxxxy>       what will happen to the other incomplete one?
  55. Jan 01 23:54:18 <Drisanna>      There's another rule of which you should be aware, Groxxxy.  I quote from the FAQ:  
  56. Jan 01 23:54:21 <&Drisanna>     What are the rules?
  57. Jan 01 23:54:21 <&Drisanna>     BitMe.ORG has a number of simple rules you should always follow. Complying with these rules will ensure that your account does not get disabled. Among the most important of the rules are:
  58. Jan 01 23:54:21 <&Drisanna>         Never defy the wishes of the admins or moderators.
  59. Jan 01 23:54:49 <Groxxxy>       i am handling my warning with the staff member that issued it and we're discussing how to best do this
  60. Jan 01 23:54:56 <&BlueBunny>    I will add a comment with a link to yours
  61. Jan 01 23:55:04 <Groxxxy>       alright
  62. Jan 01 23:55:29 <Groxxxy>       so could this have been thought of before i was warned?
  63. Jan 01 23:55:57 <Groxxxy>       perhaps i needed to be here to settle this equally
  64. Jan 01 23:56:57 <Groxxxy>       since my torrent can exist and you're approving it and i cannot see why this conclusion could not have been thought of before, can i please ask for my warning to be removed
  65. Jan 01 23:57:44 <Groxxxy>       i know the correct delicate procedure now
  66. Jan 01 23:57:48 <&BlueBunny>    I am willing to knock it down to one week, take it or leave it
  67. Jan 01 23:58:28 <Groxxxy>       can i know the justification for the warning please
  68. Jan 01 23:58:35 <Groxxxy>       after the all of the above
  69. Jan 01 23:58:36 <&Teej> Whats delecate about uploading a dupe?
  70. Jan 01 23:58:54 <Groxxxy>       i am handling my warning with the staff member that issued it
  71. Jan 01 23:59:35 <Groxxxy>       i have given my explanations above
  72. Jan 01 23:59:56 <Groxxxy>       i know what to do and how to do it and on what grounds beside the ones not being fallen into in your faq
  73. Jan 02 00:00:05 <Groxxxy>       i apologise and know how to behave for next time
  74. Jan 02 00:00:19 <&BlueBunny>    you break the rules you get a warning thats how it works
  75. Jan 02 00:00:43 <Groxxxy>       it is my first time
  76. Jan 02 00:01:01 <Groxxxy>       like i say it is to make the site better
  77. Jan 02 00:01:32 <Groxxxy>       i know now to msg that staff team and inform them of my 'trump'
  78. Jan 02 00:01:38 <&BlueBunny>    I see some notes that this is not your first run in with staff
  79. Jan 02 00:02:29 <Groxxxy>       if this scenario is anything to go by i'm not surprised that you can add into those notes anything you want
  80. Jan 02 00:02:56 <Groxxxy>       i apologised and i learnt what to do
  81. Jan 02 00:03:00 <Groxxxy>       what more do you want
  82. Jan 02 00:03:08 <Groxxxy>       i'm helping the site
  83. Jan 02 00:03:12 <&BlueBunny>    nothing we're done
  84. Jan 02 00:03:16 <Groxxxy>       this is bizarre
  85. Jan 02 00:03:25 <Teej>  [15:10] <Groxxxy> this is clearly stupid and you...
  86. Jan 02 00:03:25 <Teej>  [15:10] <Groxxxy> oh screw it
  87. Jan 02 00:03:33 <Teej>  your own words Groxxxy
  88. Jan 02 00:03:39 <Groxxxy>       i don't remember
  89. Jan 02 00:04:07 <&Teej> Over the script not giving you 150 megs upload credit when you first joined
  90. Jan 02 00:04:14 <&Teej> I clearly remember it.
  91. Jan 02 00:04:32 <Groxxxy>       yes your system miscounted upload and as it was my first upload it was easy to spot
  92. Jan 02 00:04:37 <&Teej> You took up alot of my time and was abusive.
  93. Jan 02 00:05:10 <Groxxxy>       it was a very frustrating experience and you were not being as understanding of the problem as a new user would have expected
  94. Jan 02 00:05:16 <&Teej> I`m a volunteer, I don`t need the abuse from a very few members.
  95. Jan 02 00:05:39 <Groxxxy>       this was a problem that affected the entire site, statistics is what BT runs on
  96. Jan 02 00:05:53 <&Teej> Yes I was wrong, BlueBunny is wrong.Neuronstar and Drisanna are wrong.
  97. Jan 02 00:06:02 <&Teej> You on the other hand are right
  98. Jan 02 00:06:03 <Groxxxy>       no abuse sir at all but i was quite aggravated to say the least
  99. Jan 02 00:06:20 <Groxxxy>       Teej the system failed
  100. Jan 02 00:06:29 <Groxxxy>       don't blame me
  101. Jan 02 00:06:51 <&Teej> You reported the original uploader in a site Report also. The uploader who you duped.
  102. Jan 02 00:07:04 <Groxxxy>       today?
  103. Jan 02 00:07:08 <&Teej> I`m sorry BlueBunny, I`ll step back now.
  104. Jan 02 00:07:11 <Groxxxy>       i've only ever reported torrent
  105. Jan 02 00:07:13 <Groxxxy>       s
  106. Jan 02 00:07:52 <Groxxxy>       i'm not getting anywhere here
  107. Jan 02 00:08:02 <Groxxxy>       you can't be reasoned with
  108. Jan 02 00:08:12 <&Teej> ok, sir
  109. Jan 02 00:08:13 <Groxxxy>       i'll take my 2 weeks
  110. Jan 02 00:08:26 <&Teej> Your account here is NOT a right
  111. Jan 02 00:08:42 <Groxxxy>       can i have some sort of confidence that you understand my explanations
  112. Jan 02 00:09:06 <&Teej> Account disabled, feel free to go over my head
  113. Jan 02 00:09:27 <&Teej> I can`t be reasoned with. Again you are correct.
  114. Jan 02 00:09:52 <Groxxxy>       i'm not afraid of you in the slightest
  115. Jan 02 00:10:02 <Groxxxy>       this is a very bizarre situation
  116. Jan 02 00:10:43 <&Teej> This has been going on for 36 minutes on a holiday
  117. Jan 02 00:11:15 <Groxxxy>       i came here to talk with the staff member that warned me
  118. Jan 02 00:11:26 <Groxxxy>       i don't know why you took this
  119. Jan 02 00:11:48 <Groxxxy>       why you just disabled a seeder on 29 out of 50 torrents i don't know
  120. Jan 02 00:12:18 <Groxxxy>       i wasn't complaining or being defensive
  121. Jan 02 00:12:29 <Groxxxy>       it was only a conversation
  122. Jan 02 00:12:48 <Groxxxy>       can i please be enabled
  123. Jan 02 00:12:57 <Groxxxy>       i confirmed that i had understood
  124. Jan 02 00:13:31 *       Pankaj (Pankaj@2F518695.125E8B0E.A79CA204.IP) has joined #bitme.help
  125. Jan 02 00:13:43 <Pankaj>        hello
  126. Jan 02 00:13:49 <Pankaj>        bluebunny
  127. Jan 02 00:13:52 <Teej>  Groxxxy please come back tommarow and we`ll talk about enabling your account.
  128. Jan 02 00:14:00 <Teej>  Good bye Groxxxy
  129. Jan 02 00:14:02 <Groxxxy>       alright Teej
  130. Jan 02 00:14:09 <Pankaj>        teej
  131. **** ENDING LOGGING AT Mon Jan 02 00:14:15 2012
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  133. **** BEGIN LOGGING AT Mon Jan 02 22:12:50 2012
  134.  
  135. Jan 02 22:12:50 *       Now talking on #bitme.help
  136. Jan 02 22:12:50 *       Topic for #bitme.help is: OFFICIAL BITME HELP CHANNEL: Help for site members ONLY.NO idling, PMing staff, or invite requests, IP bans are not lifted. State your username & problem for help and wait for a reply. Please Use Your Site Nick. Join #bitmetv.help for BITMETV.org issues. DO NOT IDLE IN THIS CHANNE
  137. Jan 02 22:12:50 *       Topic for #bitme.help set by wOLF at Sat Sep 17 11:59:02 2011
  138. Jan 02 22:12:57 <Groxxxy>       Hello
  139. Jan 02 22:14:40 <Groxxxy>       Groxxxy. Was told by Teej to return in a day to get my account back.
  140. Jan 02 22:19:13 <Teej>  Yes after further consideration I won`t be enabling your account Groxxxy
  141. Jan 02 22:19:28 <Groxxxy>       for what reason?
  142. Jan 02 22:19:37 <&Teej> Staff has enough to do with their time than spend hours on your problems.
  143. Jan 02 22:19:42 <Groxxxy>       why was i banned in the first place
  144. Jan 02 22:19:45 <&Teej> I don`t need a reason
  145. Jan 02 22:19:52 <&Teej> This is your problem
  146. Jan 02 22:19:55 <Groxxxy>       i didn't have any problems
  147. Jan 02 22:20:01 <&Teej> You are entitled to nothing here
  148. Jan 02 22:20:26 <&Teej> Please leave, I don`t have another hour to spend with you
  149. Jan 02 22:20:42 <Groxxxy>       but i want to fileshare
  150. Jan 02 22:20:42 *       Teej sets ban on *!*Groxxxy@*.<removed>
  151. Jan 02 22:20:42 *       You have been kicked from #bitme.help by Teej (Good day)
  152. **** ENDING LOGGING AT Mon Jan 02 22:20:42 2012
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