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- 100% optimizations/strats not used in wr
- * indicates that it's not tested and needs to be timed to see if it's actually faster
- cycle 2
- - biobaba grotto antigrav megaflip (unbuffered), saves ~3s
- - recoil flip over fence when exiting goron shrine after talking to goron baby, saves ~1s
- - PF superswim after goron switch (guard cycle needs testing), saves 4.5s
- - PF sewer HP fast strat (saves 1s)
- - goron ESS roll in swamp gossip grotto, and other places
- - can do harder/faster snowhead temple bomb bridge jump, saves ~1s
- - faster snowhead BK skip set up
- - draw hookshot during recoil for STT map room early instead of JS
- - when stopping on underwater switch in STT, swim into it so you rise up during cs (works for ENG, idk about JP)
- - twinmold with 5/6 magic bar instead of getting drops from pots in last room, bombs on giant's mask eyegore
- - 2 free fire arrow shots on blue twinmold, then razor PCS?
- - 2 JS's to avoid grabbing ledges in swamp spider house when going from 9th to 10th skulltula
- * if you can collect mask of truth as other forms, turn zora right away after 30th swamp skulltula for faster movement
- - after 5th/6th woodfall temple fairy, pull bomb for recoil flip sooner on way to opening chest that contains 6th/7th fairy
- - JS recoil in room before odolwa, saves 1s (watch http://www.twitch.tv/anatomyz_2/c/6322046 at about 2:41:20)
- - spike roll on invisible platforms to get scarecrow HP (hard to do with high consistency)
- - set up goron boost to GB so you land on fence and recover more quickly, minor
- * after catching fish, equip (zora, goron, ocarina) and goron roll before swimming? needs timing
- - faster setup for pirate cs skip (get into position as zora)
- - faster spinning platform movement after 12th GBT fairy, saves a few seconds
- - sva's fast JP gyorg strat, stun gyorg with zora barrier instead of bow, saves several seconds, much less waiting for gyorg
- - zora high ledge grab before double defense, saves ~5s
- - can shoot ice arrow close enough to torch minigame to jump and grab ledge of one of the smaller islands, skips hookshot (hard to do consistently because he doesn't always grab the ledge)
- - goron roll past invisible skulltula after grave hp, saves a few seconds
- - JS to avoid grabbing ledge when doing long jump from grave 2 to grave 1 (1 frame for JS?)
- - hookshot keeta skip instead of zora keeta skip, saves ~7-10s
- cycle 3
- - can do faster gibdo house clip, but faster set up appears inconsistent? Could probably be consistent if you pause buffer it? (read description of this video https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aH6mLbS8V6s)
- - do zora last at circus leader's, zora backwalk to ikana castle to skip mask transitions
- - unbuffered first frame weirdshot to get past sunblock to mirror shield, saves ~5s
- - sodt storage at aliens, saves ~10-12s
- - blast mask indextrick, saves a few seconds (no waiting for bomb to explode, 1 less pause for storage, see cycle 3 notes below)
- cycle 4
- - c-up zora gainer to enter inn instead of deku, saves about 2s + faster movement to grandma
- - fast moon route/quickslide to majora after last trial (twinmold, gyorg, goht, odolwa)
- optimized blast + aliens route w/ equips: == optional slower/easier route differences below (also included cycle 4 + moon)
- - garo master
- - SoDT in shrine
- *ocarina, gfs, bombs
- - wart, wizrobe, dinolfos
- - SoS Clock Town
- *goron mask, kamaro's, postman's
- - octo shooting
- - sword school
- - rosa sisters
- - enter nct
- - postbox hp
- *keaton, goron, chus
- - keaton hp + blast mask
- - milk bar clip
- - human song
- - goron song
- *ocarina, deku, zora
- - deku song
- - zora song
- - SoS Ikana
- *bombs, chus, zora
- - zora backwalk to ikana castle
- - sunblock gainer
- - hover
- - zora gainer
- - hover to HP, backflip into well
- *bombs, fire arrows, hookshot == instead can do *ocarina, light arrow, goron
- - unbuffered first frame past sun block == then *ocarina, fire arrow, goron
- - mirror shield
- - SoS Milk Road == using fire arrows on aliens skips next equip,
- *ocarina, goron, bow == then *ocarina, chus, bow
- - shoot first wave
- - get isg off grass to save equip (no need to equip bombs)
- - shoot 2nd wave after 4am
- *ocarina, goron, chus == then *ocarina, goron, chus
- - storage to day 2 == 1 extra equip + 5-6s sunblock cs, 0 extra equips if fire arrows
- on aliens
- - sodt to night 2
- - romani's mask
- - sodt to day 3
- - withdraw rupees
- - sodt to night 3
- * ocarina, hookshot, chus
- - curiosity clip
- - all-night mask
- - isg + torch clip SoT storage
- * blast mask, deku, goron + storage == can use bombs instead *bombs, deku, goron
- - activate storage when enter SCT
- - indextrick == extra pause for storage if using bombs
- - chateau bottle
- *ocarina, goron, zora
- - ledge clip to elegy
- * ocarina, gfs, fire arrows
- - SoT
- *** Cycle 4 ***
- *all-night, goron, zora
- - zora gainer to inn
- - long story HP
- - short story HP
- *couple's, goron, bombs
- - mayor HP
- - goron boost into clock tower
- *couple's, ocarina, goron
- - oath
- *** Moon ***
- - talk to twinmold, give couple's mask
- * 3 masks
- - give 3 masks
- * ocarina, hookshot, gfs
- - HP
- - talk to twinmold
- * 3 masks
- - give 3 masks
- * goron, 2 masks
- - give 1 mask
- - talk to gyorg
- - give 1 mask
- * zora mask, 2 masks
- - give 2 masks
- - HP
- - talk to gyorg
- * 3 masks
- - give 3 masks
- *goron, 2 masks
- - talk to goht
- - give 2 masks
- *goron, bombs, chus
- - HP
- - talk to goht
- * goron, 2 masks
- - give 2 masks
- - roll to odolwa
- *mask, deku, bombs
- - talk to odolwa
- - give 1 mask
- - HP
- *mask, bombs, chus
- - talk to odolwa
- - give 1 mask
- - quickslide to majora
- * FD mask
- ***** List of Very Minor (but easy) Timesavers (also added some ideas yet to be tested, marked by *):
- Note: drawing sword saves 2 frames if going to use sword, not sure how much bow/hookshot saves (at least 1). If you're doing something like jumping or backwalking or opening a door, you can draw sword, bow, or hookshot to save frame(s).
- - venick's ECT movement after 100r chest, 2 rolls (target when you get angle on second roll) then sidehop left into loading zone
- * if do JS + megaless hidden owl, should be best to hit owl then backflip oob to void while targeting owl
- - skip spike roll off cliff after goron mask (either ESS roll or sva's strat)
- GB/PF
- * mikau walking cs skip, also apparently mmfruit's strat is faster but no one uses it?
- - after exit sewers and enter outer PF and goron roll to inner PF, best to bonk left into the fence near the loading zone and it'll bounce you into the loading zone
- * is goron worth it on way to hookshot chest on JP? it is on English. Maybe zora + chest jump?
- Oceanside Spider House
- - after 13th skulltula in oceanside, draw your sword when you backflip onto the pots and then roll into wall
- - after 14th skulltula in oceanside, draw your hookshot when you do a sidehop down the stairs
- - draw hookshot when backwalking after oceanside HP (depending on rng might be best to use sword, but no fast way to draw sword without sidehop so might as well draw hookshot to potentially save frame)
- * faster to just start a new goron roll to enter NCT fairy fountain instead of sidehops?
- Snowhead Temple
- - if you can get on edge of ramp without sword easily, draw hookshot during jump in room with first 2 fairies, if you use sword, draw sword at door
- - after fire arrows, draw bow when dropping down to shoot ice block
- - after 5th fairy, you should only do 3 jumps to get back to door, one of the platforms looks like you might have to JS to make it but you don't and it's easy
- - pot recoil after 6th fairy
- - after 6th fairy, draw bow (fire arrows) when jumping to next room, or when opening door
- - after compass chest in snowhead, draw hookshot when you backflip (or gainer) onto chest to get to stray fairy chest
- - after 9th fairy, draw hookshot either when jumping off ledge or when opening door
- - after 10th fairy, when doing long jump to other ramp, draw hookshot during your jump, then hookshot torch
- - after hookshotting that torch, draw bow when opening door (use bow to shoot fairy 11 + ice block)
- - (if doing 2nd fastest bridge strat) after 15th fairy, void as zora and do 2 rolls as zora, then pull bomb as soon as you jump off ledge, you have plenty of time
- * when rolling to get first powder keg, going left might be slightly faster than going right?
- - backwalk first bridge with powder keg
- - use target + bow to shoot mountain tingle faster
- * H&D 2, possible (but I think it's precise? needs testing) to roll into last basket to break it, should be faster than waiting for bomb
- STT
- - in nejiron room (first time), go to the left side (instead of the right side), pull bomb earlier and do a first frame weirdshot from farther away
- - if you're going to use great fairy mask to get stray fairy in ring of fire, put it on before you open the chest so it flies to you while you recover from damage
- - draw bow (or sword?) when opening door to garo master, if you backwalk to door can draw bow then as well
- * after 5th fairy, can draw bow while backwalking to get in range to shoot hookshot target, not sure if doing that is better than just rolling and slow hookshot
- - after eyegore superslide + 6th fairy, draw bow while backwalking to door (or draw bow when opening door)
- - after 7th fairy, draw bow when jumping across ledge (or when opening door)
- * fast setup for hover to shoot underwater sun might be faster than unbuffered weirdshot, needs a lot of testing. Idea is sometime along the lines of get isg when opening compass chest (or damage isg off bombchu) then do a roll or 2 to get angle, pull bomb and walk rest of the way to get good position for hover (this hover is from a spot much closer to chest than the hover strat I see most people door, there's a setup for it but could probably be done without a real set up)
- * draw bow when entering nejiron room 2nd time? is this worth it over rolling as zora a bit in that room?
- - sidehop after shooting sun + sunblock in nejiron room
- ISTT
- * c-up + visual cue for long jump in first room might be better than set up?
- - after long jump in first room, and jump to ledge, put on deku mask right away because moves faster than human
- * after getting 2nd fairy + isg off chest, draw hookshot while backwalking a bit to hookshot other chest (if this is better than rolling + slow hookshot)
- - after 3rd fairy (from inverted chest), draw bow when jumping to next room (or when opening door)
- - after giant's mask, draw hookshot when entering door
- Swamp Spider House
- - after 2nd skulltula, draw hookshot when entering door (roll into crate, shoot skulltula on wall, then use sword for crate skulltula)
- * after fourth skulltula, roll into crate, sidehop left a few times and draw hookshot mid-sidehop while skulltula is still invulnerable and then hookshot it? waiting with sword could still be faster, needs testing
- - after 5th skulltula, climb ladder, just turn down-right, don't walk at all, can shoot skulltula in middle from there (assuming you're not too slow for cycle, but is pretty lenient)
- - after 10th skulltula, roll down balcony and jump off it so that you avoid having to hop up the little step before the door AND draw hookshot during this jump or when opening door
- - after 13th skulltula, draw hookshot when jumping or when opening door (hookshot beehive first thing)
- - horizontally slash sword to kill individual skulltulas, easy enough to consistently hit
- - after 19th skulltula, draw hookshot at door if hookshotting 20th skulltula, draw sword if jumping across gap and then slashing it (sword might be a bit faster)
- - draw hookshot after 20th skulltula at door if not already drawn
- Woodfall Temple
- - after 2nd fairy, draw hookshot when you jump off platform (possible to only do 2 rolls to get in range of torch, but 3 is safer because of enemies)
- - after boss key, draw hookshot at door
- - after map, draw hookshot at door (or mid backwalk)
- - after 4th fairy, draw hookshot at door
- - after killing baba that has stray fairy, jump off the ledge onto the slope (safely avoids picking up deku stick and should be faster) and pull bomb for recoil flip on the latter part of the slope
- - draw bow during recoil flip after dark room
- - when entering fairy fountain as zora, ROLL, don't backwalk (not sure about human)
- * at scarecrow HP, if you have spare chu might be faster to sidehop hover off the edge and ocarina dive instead of ocarina dive with sword (perhaps more consistent as well)
- - get into position to hookshot tree for pcs as zora, (turning down so you don't target turtle, then sidehopping right 2 times, since you turn down you use left on control stick for first sidehop [because if you sidehop right after you turn camera, the direction you hold is different], then right for second one)
- GBT
- - after first hover, don't do a combination of backwalking + sidehops as human, turn zora right away and roll because zora has faster movement and rolling will have a better angle for movement and the short backwalk after the hover is kind of slow (might also reduce lag because of camera?)
- - after 4th fairy, turn human right before door and draw hookshot
- * could maybe pull chu slightly sooner for 9th fairy, jump to ledge and release it after certain number of flashes to break barrel, needs testing
- - while waiting for 9th fairy, draw bow
- - after freezing waterfall in waterwheel room, draw hookshot when you jump onto the (no longer moving) waterwheel. Sometimes you put away hookshot when climbing next part of waterwheel, but possible to avoid if you climb more to the right
- - after 10th fairy, draw hookshot when jumping onto other part of waterwheel
- - after hitting the gecko with gfs, draw your bow (both times), not only do you freeze bubble faster but it also makes it easier to make the cycle
- - after 12th fairy, jump onto moving water wheel, draw your bow mid jump, turn left and jump onto the part of waterwheel approaching you, then jump onto bridge, then freeze waterfall
- - after freezing waterfall in main room and climbing up ladder, draw hookshot at door
- - on the moon, twinmold trial, draw hookshot right away after killing garo master
- ***** Some backup strats that I've noticed people could have used:
- - if you drop goron shrine HESS part of the way through, do not try backwalking the rest, rolling is almost always faster because better angle and the most you can backwalk is a short distance
- - if you fail recoil flip to map room in STT and land in the unloaded room, do not soar to entrance, you can void in the lava as zora/deku (the lava is just invisible because room is unloaded)
- - in STT map room, if you fail hover to the top of the sunblock, don't hookshot up and try to hover again, walk into lava and use an armos to hookshot clip to get to the chest
- - if you get past the dark room in woodfall and have no magic, jump down the ledge from where you normally do the recoil flip into main room and get magic in the grass which is right behind the hole you recoil into (by behind I mean grass closest to the door) then you can either recoil flip down the hole from there or do glitchless strat and JS recoil down other hole. glitchless strat is also good if you fail recoil and fall down there
- - in GBT, unless you have no magic at wart (you only need enough magic to break the pot at bottom of main room), do not kill the green chu, you'll be able to get a big magic drop in the pot next to the pot containing the 7th fairy and this magic alone is more than enough to last you the rest of the temple (and easy magic drops in gecko room after that so magic usage is lenient)
- * not a "back up" strat, but if first 2 dampe flames are good rng, ladder fire should be ideally faster than stairs fire
- - if (for some reason) on the moon you don't have enough bombchus to do the hover when you get to the goron trial, roll to the first set up chests, backflip onto them, turn 90 degrees right and get onto the edge, then use either a bomb or blast mask to zora long jump and grab the ledge, you can then goron roll to the HP form there, only seconds slower than doing the hover if optimized
- ***** List of ideas for optimizations (even though I already marked some ideas with *, I decided to make a separate list for other ideas)
- ** all of these ideas need testing
- - could try superswimming for just the first ring of beaver races? Maybe more if you're good at superswimming?
- - could try doing a superswim to do turnkey skip, would save 5-6 chus and it'd be fast (would sodt a bit earlier)
- - [JP] after shooting gyorg for gyorg cs skip, pull out a bomb when you jump down to gyorg (not right away, wait a bit to time it correctly) then put on zora mask and recoil flip (and maybe superswim a bit?) to gyorg to get first hit, then proceed to do sva's strat. Alternative could be to pull bomb right away and recoil midair (or chu recoil?) and superswim as human then turn zora for first hit
- - high zora ledge grab to get to torch minigame (if possible, is probably very precise as some of the ledges are hard to grab even normally, but listing this idea anyway)
- ***** List of common softlocks (incomplete)
- - playing ocarina when textbox comes up after getting deku 3 HP, to be safe can wait until it disapears and then play ocarina, perhaps there's a faster way of doing this?
- - going for wizrobe cs skip in secret shrine (let cs play, don't try to skip it)
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