Spammer

Employee 427: Lol spamming boxes that much
Employee 427: Even when it's losing you the game
PKR90: what can i say
PKR90: where's the lottery
Employee 427: I mean it's a pretty faggoty tactic, but whatever.
PKR90: you play with the cards you were given, right?
Employee 427: Right, and your were the exploit the game cards, and you weren't even playing
Employee 427: You were just standing there screwing the game up for everyone lol
Employee 427: There's no point in even joining if you're not going to actually play
Employee 427: You're just becoming a burden to everyone who is
PKR90: i think you're taking this game a bit to seriously
Employee 427: I'm not.
PKR90: you are, but that's fine
Employee 427: You're just wasting everyones time.
PKR90: you really care about this game and "everyones" time
Employee 427: I care when it's quarter of an hour of my time being wasted
Employee 427: And when someone is being spiteful because they are a sore loser
PKR90: you lost a game
PKR90: you didn;t stop bane
Employee 427: I didn't stop him because you were spamming ships and boxes like a tard lol
Employee 427: I don't mind losing, it's just what you were doing is spiteful to everyone in the match
PKR90: you do
PKR90: you're a full time gamer
Employee 427: If I did care I would have stopped Bane lol
PKR90: of course
PKR90: ...lol
PKR90: btw, you're a cheater, so dry your eyes...
PKR90: ..."lol"
Employee 427: Ok then, how did I cheat exactly?
PKR90: no lottery
Employee 427: What lottery?
PKR90: hero lottery
Employee 427: Oh that
PKR90: after the match
Employee 427: I dunno, the game is full of bugs. Sometimes it doesn't even activate.
Employee 427: Sometimes there's 3 heroes at once.
Employee 427: Not exactly cheating if it's out of my control
PKR90: nah, i think you hacked the game
Employee 427: And even if it was, I'm not using game breaking exploits to ruin the balance
PKR90: "ruin the balance"
PKR90: good one
Employee 427: Such as standing on a box doing nothing
Employee 427: Taking advantage of an invisible box exploit so that the heroes run into you
Employee 427: Standing on a box to make yourself immune to heroes
Employee 427: Spamming ships at bane's for free insti kills
PKR90: a good hero keeps refreshing detective vision
Employee 427: And a good player actually plays the game properly. Byy moving around and capturing the control points.
Employee 427: Instead of standing in one place non stop, standing on boxes
PKR90: yeah, you said that before
Employee 427: Not actually playing, just being a pain for everyone in the game
PKR90: a good heros will act when he can
Employee 427: No hero can do a thing against a box spammer
Employee 427: I mean they can throw down an exoplosive batarang as batman
PKR90: batman can throw the sonic batarang
Employee 427: But they can easily move out the way
PKR90: and then it destroys the box and here you go
Employee 427: I did, you died lol
Employee 427: And you kept doing it until you lost
Employee 427: Which is my whole problem here
PKR90: go after bane, here's the solution
PKR90: you're welcome
Employee 427: That's not the solution at all lol
Employee 427: Because the second I go after bane you'll start the ship spam
Employee 427: And other than that
Employee 427: Since you weren't actually playing
Employee 427: I'd have still lost anyway
Employee 427: And thirdly I'd much rather keep punishing your spam and have Bane win instead.
Employee 427: Because spammers don't deserve to win.
PKR90: silent guardian, you are
Employee 427: Yup
Employee 427: Hence the reason I created the group
PKR90: that explains everything
Employee 427: I discussed it with the devs, and managed to get a few server side tweaks
Employee 427: but because they don't have funding from warner they can't actually fix these exploits
PKR90: there was some group nwith some griefs and how to punish people who use airships
Employee 427: People who excessively spam them
Employee 427: Along with boxes
Employee 427: Yeah
Employee 427: I mean
PKR90: well, you have them you play them
Employee 427: You joined that group
Employee 427: No idea why.
PKR90: btw, devs should not blame wb as it is them who created the game
Employee 427: Yeah they created it, but they don't own it
Employee 427: So they can't fix it without funding
PKR90: it's not something that would go unnoticed with a few more tests
Employee 427: Payday 2 for example launched as a broken mess, but was supported so it got fixed.
Employee 427: This game remains unfixed because it's only had like
Employee 427: 1 minor patch
PKR90: i only play arkham games, i have no idea how it's like with other games
Employee 427: Which is why people like you can exploit the game non stop
Employee 427: Which if you actually gave a damn about this series, you would not be doing. Because you're sucking the life out of the multiplayer.
PKR90: i've never thought this way, I always find boxes and bombs as a challenge
PKR90: joker gang > bane gang, bane > joker, there is some "balance"
PKR90: and there are a lot of bugs like rolling, connection issues
Employee 427: No a full team of experienced exploiters on the joker team will laways win
Employee 427: No question
PKR90: i disagree
PKR90: smart heroes will go after bane, set traps, go after supervillains
PKR90: scrumble joker gang's control points
Employee 427: No, if you allow the winning team to keep winning, you will never make it in time.
PKR90: there are ways to deal with it, if it's fix then it's fine, if it's not - that's the game it was designed to be
Employee 427: Ok then you tell me how a team of heroes is supposed to beat a team of experienced spammers?
Employee 427: Because believe me, I've done it myself in the past
PKR90: who says about allowing winning team to keep winning, if a gang is winning you scrumble their points ang go after the other gang
PKR90: oh, so you're like a drug addict how warns others not to make the same mistake
Employee 427: Yeah you can scramble the points, but that puts you closer to the winning team and a distance from the losing team
Employee 427: Which you're telling me you should be going for
Employee 427: And scrambling the points only buys you about 45 seconds
PKR90: it's a lot if  match is never longer than 15 minutes
Employee 427: Also
Employee 427: It makes no difference
Employee 427: If an entire team is immune to all takedowns
PKR90: it does, but it requires some effort
Employee 427: You tell me how then.
PKR90: how? if they are standing still with a box between legs, they cannot kill
PKR90: after they use their airship, which can be destroyed
PKR90: well, my young padawan, you have to be quick, you have to go after bane, do not die
PKR90: stop joker gang from geting to villain's door
PKR90: throw sonic batarang
PKR90: or cluster
Employee 427: First off
Employee 427: Only Batman has a sonic batarang
Employee 427: And secondly
Employee 427: An experienced spammer will only use an airship when it's clear
Employee 427: And other than that the sonic batarang only obtains minimal points
PKR90: it takes a few seconds to get there as a hero
Employee 427: Most of the time a spammer wil be standing on a box not doing anything
Employee 427: Just like you
Employee 427: The sonic batarang is so amazingly easy to dodge
Employee 427: And besides, getting close to a spammer when there's bigger bang ships flying all over is easier said then done
PKR90: it destroys the box
Employee 427: And going after the losing team is the worst thing you can do as a hero
PKR90: if ships are flying then cannot dodge batarnag
Employee 427: Lol... You can just put another box down
Employee 427: What's the issue here?
Employee 427: Yes they can lol
Employee 427: You want me to prove it?
Employee 427: I have a vid
PKR90: but only after a while, and then they can be taken down
Employee 427: http://youtu.be/9NFBtN4QTOQ?t=4m
Employee 427: Batarang destroys ships?
Employee 427: I don't think so.
Employee 427: The only way to dodge a ship is by being in a vent
PKR90: i meant thugs cannot doge sonic batarang
Employee 427: Yes they can lol...
Employee 427: Just roll out the way
PKR90: situation like in a video is where the hero should be escaping
Employee 427: And even so
Employee 427: The sonic batarang gives extremely few points
PKR90: no, because they are controlling the airship
Employee 427: Ok then you try getting close to someone who is fying a ship at you lol...
Employee 427: As robin
Employee 427: With no explosive batarang
Employee 427: Even as batman
PKR90: you can't do much, you have to be smart
Employee 427: The ship travels faster than the hero can move
Employee 427: The only thing you can do is hide in a vent
PKR90: then escape undergroung
Employee 427: But you can't takedown someone standing in a corner spamming ships at you
PKR90: into some tunnel
Employee 427: And once you avoid the ship
PKR90: you can
Employee 427: They are still standing on a box
PKR90: kick them and they are on the ground
Employee 427: Then the box explodes lol
Employee 427: And you die in one hit
Employee 427: Then when you both respawn
Employee 427: The joker guy does it again
PKR90: if there is a box then escape as i explained above
Employee 427: And again
Employee 427: And as I explained, being a hero is useless if an entire team is immune to takedowns
PKR90: then you go after the others
Employee 427: Then they spam ships
Employee 427: Then the jokers start winning easily
Employee 427: Because the banes have to deal with both heroes and ship spam
PKR90: rolling all the time is bigger problem than boxes or airships
Employee 427: It's not really
Employee 427: I mean it is a problem but
Employee 427: There's ways to deal with it
PKR90: exactly
PKR90: you can deal with everything
Employee 427: Box spam on the other hand
Employee 427: In the hands of the right person cannot be dealt with
PKR90: what is a problem for you is a challenge for me
Employee 427: Even if you get lucky say
Employee 427: And you get a couple of explosive takedowns
Employee 427: You get 10% max
Employee 427: In the several minutes you wasted dealing with the spammer, the match is almost over
PKR90: but why do you have to prove something to the spammer
PKR90: go after vulnerable thugs
PKR90: even spammers are vulnerable, they are not standing on the box all the time
Employee 427: Because if one person is ruining the game. It's better to punish them for it, as opposed to trying to win.
Employee 427: It's much more fulfilling that way.
Employee 427: At at least goes to show that there are some people who care about fairness.
Employee 427: "even spammers are vulnerable, they are not standing on the box all the time"
Employee 427: Explain your actions then
Employee 427: Because you're doing the exact same tactic every other spammer I've come across does
PKR90: i'm not
PKR90: i was hunting you
Employee 427: Capture on control point
Employee 427: Go and stand in some akward spot
Employee 427: Put down a box
Employee 427: Use airship
Employee 427: Kill someone with it
Employee 427: Wait for cooldown while standing on box
Employee 427: When cooldown finished
Employee 427: Use another ship
Employee 427: Rinse and repeat
Employee 427: It destroys the entire concept of the multiplayer which is to fight over the control points
Employee 427: I've seen ship spam so bad, that the jokers win form kills alone
Employee 427: Despite not having any cps
Employee 427: I've seen full groups of players spamming ships while standing on boxes
PKR90: spammers are protecting themselves from the heroes so the best way to "punish" them is to win a match
Employee 427: In fact I was even one of them at one point
Employee 427: The best way to punish heroes is to work as a team
Employee 427: That's what makes being a thug fun
Employee 427: Not making yourself invincible
PKR90: punish spammers
Employee 427: Exactly
Employee 427: I do that
PKR90: you "punish" spammers by winning as a hero
Employee 427: But even when spammers are punished
Employee 427: They will never learn from it
Employee 427: You know what most of the time I do lol, it just really depends on the scale of spam
PKR90: they will when they're standing still hoping they will get you into a trap and you're going after bane thugs and then joker gang is feeling helpless
Employee 427: I've told you, once you go for the bane gang who is already losing badly
Employee 427: The ship spam will start
Employee 427: The only way to win as heroes is to focus the strongest team
Employee 427: If you make the losing team lose even more badly
Employee 427: The game will end quickly
PKR90: I've told you, a good hero can deal with everything
PKR90: but why
Employee 427: A good spammer can deal with everything
Employee 427: You haven't even given me an example of how heroes can deal with box spam lol
PKR90: you scrumble winning team's control points and take down losing team so they canot lose reinforcements from getting killed
Employee 427: Yet you claim it's possible
Employee 427: Employee 427: I've seen ship spam so bad, that the jokers win form kills alone
Employee 427: Despite not having any cps
Employee 427: I've seen full groups of players spamming ships while standing on boxes
Employee 427: Scrambling only buys you some time
PKR90: you just leave it or throw sonic batarng or act in those few moments when spammers are vulnerable
Employee 427: You can't win from scrambling alone
Employee 427: You just aren't listening are you...
Employee 427: Even if you get lucky and get a sonic batarang takedown
PKR90: it the very same sentence i also said something about taking down losing team
Employee 427: The amount of points you get is minimal
Employee 427: And you're likely to lose those points from ship spam
Employee 427: And literally I second ago I explained why taking the losing team is a terrible idea
PKR90: it's a great idea
PKR90: quick takedowns
PKR90: ships are not everywhere
PKR90: you go after bane gang as they respawn
PKR90: you're much faster then jokerz
Employee 427: The ships are everywhere lol.
Employee 427: And the second you go after the banes
Employee 427: the joekrs will just take the cps
Employee 427: Jokers*
Employee 427: The second you go for the losing team their reinforcements will just dwindle down to nothing
Employee 427: I mean, you try getting takedowns on the banes when you have airships flying at you
Employee 427: You'll just die and lose 23% intimidation
Employee 427: Again, the only way you'll buy enough time to win the game is if you balance the scales of the game
Employee 427: If one team is winning you have to attack that team otherwise the game will end before you can generate enough intimidation
Employee 427: If the jokers are already spamming overpowered airships to the point that they are winning from kills alone, you're not going to have a chance in hell of winning the game.
PKR90: i disagree. scrumbler and going mainly after bane is a great strategy
Employee 427: You have't played a great deal of hero games then.
Employee 427: Haven't*
Employee 427: And other than that
Employee 427: It's no excuse for one team being invincible
PKR90: i play this since the beginning
Employee 427: I can tell
PKR90: devs are responsible for the game, not players
Employee 427: The devs have no funding
PKR90: the amount of bugs in this game if high, probably much higher than in other games - it's devs' fault
Employee 427: You're the one exploiting them.
PKR90: that's what every criminal would do
Employee 427: No, it's what a sore loser would do.
Employee 427: You feel the need to win so strongly, that you're willing to exploit and cheat your way to it.
Employee 427: It's disrespectful for everyone who is taking the time to play the game with you
Employee 427: It reflects on what kind of a person you are in real life.
PKR90: yes, you're pro active
PKR90: and I respect that
Employee 427: It's not a matter of skill.
PKR90: and for me every "problem" is a "challenge"
Employee 427: You're not seeing the bigger picture here.
PKR90: i'm not talking about skill, i'm taking about doing something for other people
PKR90: if someone has an advantage over me, i don't cry for help or beg him to stop
PKR90: if i lose, i lose proudly
Employee 427: If someone is a sore loser, or is a cheater or exploiter. You can't complain when you get called out for it.
PKR90: if i win, i win violently
Employee 427: If you win, you use an unfair advantage.
Employee 427: Because you can't handle a fair matchup.
PKR90: ok, i'll fix those bugs
PKR90: i can handle everything, even a team whose weapons are much better
PKR90: if someone agrees with you and decides not to use a bomb, then that's fine, and I agree there is too much power in that
PKR90: but you cannot expect people to do that
PKR90: i would be so ashamed it i were the devs
PKR90: rules are rules and the game is what it is
Employee 427: What you can do
Employee 427: Is play nice.
Employee 427: That way win or lose you can at least have some pride.
Employee 427: But I can see that I'm not getting through to you.
Employee 427: So feel free to disregard everything I've been saying.