<VikeStep> I fear the day some mod dev adds his own securitymanager that blocks reflection
<Kolatra> I feel like that's something Greg would do.
<gigaherz> that would break so many mods no one would install that one
<VikeStep> kolatra, im pretty sure he uses reflection
<Sandra> goddammit mod devs,
<VikeStep> i do know one mod dev that has added his own securitymanager
<Ivorius> No problem m8
<Ivorius> I'll just add a clause to my coremod that blocks security managers
<Kolatra> I feel like I know who that is VikeStep.
<gigaherz> VikeStep: only for his own classes, I hope?
<VikeStep> this one: https://github.com/coolsquid/Testy/blob/master/src/com/github/coolsquid/Testy/Utils/Security/SecurityHandler.java
<VikeStep> nope gigaherz
<Kolatra> Oh, that's not who I thought it was.
<VikeStep> thats this coremod
<VikeStep> well, not actually a coremod per se, but his core mod for all his other mods
<Kolatra> throw new WTF_ARE_YOU_DOING_EXCEPTION(); at the bottom. lol
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<Ivorius> https://github.com/coolsquid/Testy/blob/master/src/com/github/coolsquid/Testy/Utils/Security/WTF_ARE_YOU_DOING_EXCEPTION.java
<Ivorius> 'don't even try to override my securityhandler'
<Ivorius> Dude
<Ivorius> You do realize that you make yourself incompatible with every single other mod that adds security managers
<VikeStep> ivorius, this dude has done a number of things in his mods that i dont care about it anymore xD
<Sandra> not that mods should add security managers.
<gigaherz> [11:56] (Ivorius): You can subscribe to that and cancel it when TREES is passed
<Sandra> what do they even do?
<gigaherz> java.lang.IllegalArgumentException: Attempted to cancel a uncancelable event
<gigaherz> nope.
<gigaherz> XD
<Kolatra> LOL
<Ivorius> gigaherz: setResult(DENY)
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<VikeStep> gigaherz, if you look at the event itself there should be docs on what you can do with it
<gigaherz> Ivorius: aha different action then XD
<VikeStep> sandra, they limit what the JVM is allowed to do
<Ivorius> Yeah, not sure what the deal is with having two types
<Sandra> VikeStep: but.... why?
<Ivorius> Sandra: Ever heard of sensitive data? x)
<Sandra> Ivorius: again, but..... why?
<Sandra> why would mods have to do that/
<VikeStep> it can also be used to prevent hacking of sorts
<Dvnt> http://prntscr.com/5uc8f3 o.O
<VikeStep> oh, mods have no reason
<VikeStep> but other java programs might
<Sandra> yeah, that makes sense.
<Sandra> mods have really no business doing such a thing.
<Isigiel> Yo iPixeli, will there be a modjam some time soon? Could you need a webdev to offer more online Features next time?
<Ivorius> Isigiel: #modjam
<Kolatra> Can not set MODID to ModCore. Oh?
<ThePsionic> It's LogManager.getLogger(MODID) right
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<furyhunter> wait, why does coolsquid's exception say that
<furyhunter> why are we using securitymanagers in minecraft mods
<furyhunter> that's insane
<Kolatra> No idea.
<VikeStep> idk, hes done some other weird stuff in his mods before, until i asked him to remove them
<Ivorius> Must protect mah mods
<Ivorius> Muh intellectual property
<VikeStep> he used to have a method which would limit framerate to 10fps if the directory of the mod was in a directory containing a certain string
<gigaherz> funny anyone would say that when we all are working with Mojang's properly and they just "promised" not to sue ;P
<VikeStep> wont say what string
<Ivorius> wtf VikeStep
<ThePsionic> [12:35:42] <ThePsionic> It's LogManager.getLogger(MODID) right
<Ivorius> On a scale from 0 to illegal
<VikeStep> ivorius, coolsquid is the guy who led the StopModReposts rebellion
<Ivorius> That's pretty illegal
<furyhunter> it's not illegal, it's just fucking stupid
<Kolatra> VikeStep, uh... I... I have no words.
<Ivorius> It is indeed illegal
<VikeStep> nope, its DRM
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<Ivorius> Somebody even got in trouble for something like that
<furyhunter> "in trouble"
<Ivorius> Remember the whole gregtech thing? Yeah, that.
<VikeStep> anyways, i made him remove those
<VikeStep> after pointing out how illegal it was and he obliged
<Ivorius> ThePsionic: Use https://github.com/Ivorforce/Psychedelicraft/blob/master/src/main/java/ivorius/psychedelicraft/Psychedelicraft.java#L87
<furyhunter> what is 'illegal' about anything
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<Ivorius> You are not allowed to make usage restrictions for any user
<furyhunter> if you mean illegal in the context of a license with using MCP and FML
<furyhunter> where's that
<Ivorius> That's in Mojang's Terms