snowflake: I like how the genders are Male, Female, & Transgender....and it doesn't give FtM or MtF
snowflake: That's fucking stpid
jake: At least transgender is an option
abby: yeah it wasn't for awhile :/
jake: Thats more than you see on most sites
me: this might be a stupid question, but if you are trans identifying as x, why don't you just put x rather than complicating it?
Shitlord: I'm so confused are u a trans ?
snowflake: Yeah
snowflake: You're cis aren't you....?
Shitlord: Are all of u trans ?
snowflake: Yeah you're cis
snowflake: No
abby: No xD
snowflake: I'm trans male
me: if you identify as male, why not just tick male instead of saying trans male
jake: Shes saying just put male
snowflake: @me Because there are medical things
jake: Why would you assume that were all trsnsgender?
me: true, but does anyone on the internet need to know exactly what is downstairs?
snowflake: Yeah that was fucking stupid
snowflake: Omg
Shitlord: Cause ur all talking a out it
me: (i know, dramatic simplification)
snowflake: You are so cis
jake: I agree with @me
snowflake: Fuck it
me: i mean, the only real benefit of gender on a sign up is to know what pronoun to use.
abby: btw I don't understand why gender matters besides pgp.
jake: Idek what pgp is
abby: preferred gender pronoun(s). Yeah but basically I meant what @me said xD
jake: Gender matters because you gotta know if youre the stick of the hole and if you wanna rub sticks or rub holes or put stick in holes
jake: Yknow
Jess: oh gosh.....
me: not when you are only talking online
abby: Oh I was meaning for online
me: gender is the identity, sex is what is between the legs
abby: ^
snowflake: You are all dumb
snowflake: Omg
me: rub sticks/holes is sexual orientation
Shitlord: what she said is trye
me: not the same as gender identity
snowflake: ok
snowflake: Stfu
jake: I thought sex and gender were the same thing
snowflake: Y'all are making me mad
snowflake: You literally don't understand anything
me: and this is why so many cis people have given up trying to talk to trans
snowflake: Sex is X and Y chromosomes
snowflake: There are 6 X and Y chromosome pairs
snowflake: So there are 7 genders. And one of them is a lack there of.
snowflake: There's XY, XX, XO, XXX, XXY, & XYY. So yes
snowflake: There are 6 sexes
Shitlord: 2 real genders the others are jut kinda
snowflake: @Shitlord You are stupid
snowflake: so fucking dumb
jake: I think there are like 5 real genders
abby: Yeah even ik that's ignorant xD
Shitlord: no I'm not sorry if the whole world doesn't agree with ur trans talk
snowflake: Fucking white cis people
Shitlord: bitch
James: No actually it's 2 real genders, or that you talk about the most
Shitlord: ^^
snowflake: Gender is a social construct....
jake: Nah theres boy girl, girl who wants to be a boy, boy who wants to be a girl, both, and none
Shitlord: That is the truth
snowflake: Sex is biological
me: that right there is why we have given up talking to trans people
jake: Theyre angry @me
snowflake: Because you guys just like...refuse to understand
me: it is straight to insult, and each fucking individual has a different definition
Jess: everybody is who they are end of story
Shitlord: Thank u
jake: I'm a real boy
James: Why are you guys even discussing this?
Shitlord: we try but u guys r just really complicated and it can get annoying
me: because someone complained that the only options were m, f or trans
jake: Because only have 3 gender options instead of 6
snowflake: I'm a real boy too.
James: "everybody is who they are end of story" yes, exactly
Jess: @Shitlord oh, im not agreeing with the only 2 genders comment, i just think that if someone wants to have a different gender then they should be allowed to do so without being judged
Shitlord: But I think that we all have our opinions and they need to accept mine then I'll accept theres
snowflake: But the FACT is that there are more than two genders so like
snowflake: You're wrong both ways.
abby: @jake There are more than that honestly, but I'm gonna shut up now xD
snowflake: Lol
jake: More than 6?
Jess: I give up, fuck this rn
Ash: Guys it's not that hard to understand. Biological sex is your reproductive organs Gender is how you feel or want to look. Which is subjective and mostly individual.
Shitlord: No I'm not and u don't even look like a guy you look like a girl who is jut really skinny with short hair
snowflake: WTF
snowflake: Now you're being transphobic
jake: Its not about whats on the outside. Its what your brain thinks
Shitlord: no I'm stating what I see
Ash: How am I being transphobic? o-o
jake: snowflake brain is a boy so physical whatever doesnt matter
James: yeah, that wasn't something nice to say
snowflake: I'm a boy.
jake: not you @Ash
snowflake: And you can fuck yourself XD
Shitlord: I'm stating what I see
snowflake: I'm stating what I know
James: if he/she wants to be he/she then nobody should complain
anon3693: Why don't you all STFU. You all clearly disagree and no one is really on another persons opinion and it is going around in circles. Why not just accept you just don't fucking know.
Jess: @Shitlord bitch, snowflake is allowed to be here, she is just like any of the rest of us so just fuck off
snowflake: HE
Ash: Like why does this even matter. Let people be whatever they want to be. You're not fucking/dating them it doesn't matter. >.> Stay out of stuff that's not your business.
James: ARE YOU KIDDING ME? Stop being rude @Shitlord
Jess: @snowflake sorry snowflake, i was ranting
Shitlord: ALL SHE FUCKING DOES IS TALK ABOUT IM A GIY BLAH BLAH BLAH LIKE SToP FOR ONCE PLEASE
snowflake: Especially trans men
Shitlord: WATEVER
jake: the worst part is shes not even a troll shes just ignorant
Jess: exactly
Ash: People get so hung up on the semantics it's so trivial. @Shitlord Stop purposely misgendering him. You come across like a cunt and you're going to be treated like one.
snowflake: @Ash (ily)
Shitlord: I don't like them talking about it constantly its annoying
Shitlord: K
Jess: @Shitlord shut up, no one asked your opinion
Ash: @Shitlord Than please gtfo. Do you have any idea how alienated transpeople are in the world?
Shitlord: yep
Shitlord: and no
Ash: Let them have one place to chat with other people for god sakes
Ash: You can't just shove people in a box and push them a way when it inconveniences you
Jess: @Shitlord they are who they are, you need to get over yourself
Shitlord: theres the Jenners there obviously not is isolated
Ash: and pull them out when you want to play
snowflake: b/c they are rich!
snowflake: And famous
snowflake: And Catilyn is getting a lot of shit
snowflake: already
snowflake: Soooooo
Shitlord: theres showrs on trans people now THERW NOT FUCKING ISOLATED
jake: If I could strangle people over the internet -_-
snowflake: HAh
snowflake: Ok
Ash: @Shitlord First of all Katherine is the minority. They're more priveleged. Not every transperson can avoid hormone therapy and corrective surgery
Jess: @Shitlord you are judging people, which is a boochie fucking move. Just gtfo, no one wants your ignorant ass here
snowflake: Afford
snowflake: Yeah
Ash: afford yeah sorry >.<
me: honestly, transpeople do seem to do alot of the alienating themselves
Ash: o____o you're shitting me right?
snowflake: :I
me: like, innocent questions without malice are constantly met with anger
snowflake: ::::::IIIIIIIIIII
hungerpoint95: Excuse me?
me: of course we fucking give up trying to talk
snowflake: :::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::IIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIII
snowflake: :I
Ash: It's you people who don't like them and are making a big deal. Why can't you just use male pronouns? Why do you have to argue about this for 20 minutes?
Shitlord: Just stop talking about it for one goddamn day
Ash: nope
me: i have no once used a female pronoun
Ash: it's their life
me: i simply asked why not tick male instead of demanding ftm?
Ash: It's not fair that everyone else can talk about their lives and than they can't.
me: again, not saying that they cant
Ash: @me Why do you demand they check off male?
Ash: Why does it matter to you?
Ash: How does it affect you?
Shitlord: i don't care there not really a man or WATEVER they r unless they have those parts scientist proven
Ash: Here's a tip: it doesn't
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jake: @me I get what youre saying but i think the reason for that is because all the hate transpeople get so like they get threatened by anyone sort of asking about it because they think itll lead to hate or judgement
me: i never said that, i asked why it was an issue that ftm/mtf was not an option
me: i did not ever say that trans must tick what they identify as
snowflake: Just saying
James: Ohlord
snowflake: People like you are the reason trans people dissociate
me: ditto
snowflake: And why so many trans kids kill themselves
Shitlord: So like what r u originally I'm guessing a girl
Ash: I don't understand why people who have no gender/identity issues feel like people that are trans/etc owe them an answer
Jess: OHMIGAWD People leave each other alone
me: not saying we are owed an answer
snowflake: No
Ash: @me You wanted an answer so...?
snowflake: I'm a boy.
me: but when you complain that we are doing something wrong, there are responses beyong "OMG YOURE ALL SO FUCKING IGNORANT FUCK YOU ALL"
jake: I think we are owed an answer if snowflake gets pissed when we dont understand something and calls us stupid
snowflake: Because you are.
me: which seems to be the universall response
jake: If were so stupid then educate us?
snowflake: Alright
Ash: Google exists for a reason.
snowflake: What do you want to know
me: then comes it is not their job to educate
snowflake: I'll answer it all.
snowflake: Ask whatever you want.
jake: ill just google it then
me: so we are supposed to magically know, despite the fact that every single genderqueer person I have ever met has a different definition and different expectation, and flies off the handle the second that expectation is not met
James: I suggest we should stop talking about thia
Ash: It's not up to the person in question to answer your questions. They're not the spokesperson for all transpeople. It's up to the individual if they want to answer your question or not.
Ash: It's not rocket science.
jake: No were supposed to google it apparently @me
snowflake: I'm out
snowflake: Fuck you
me: @Ash if they dont want to answer, then you lose the right to bitch when expectations are not met
Ash: @me You don't understand that transpeople are pressured to ask/answer for the community as a whole and that can have lasting psychological effects on them. They gender model we have in society right now works against transpeople not for it.

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snowflake: *ranting on my blog about you guys*