[5:09pm] windsong: but i mean, in general you need to play heavy offense pretty aggressively
[5:09pm] TheSuperSayianBreloom: but what if i have like 2 pokes weak to rocks? like one x4 to it and one that will die really fast
[5:10pm] windsong: if you want to be successful
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[5:10pm] harsha: hmm, i don't think you'd ever be in that situation unless you're talking volc
[5:10pm] Limitless: volc should prob just be in balance anyways
[5:10pm] Limitless: in which u can assign it to utility role
[5:10pm] TheSuperSayianBreloom: i'm talking yanmega and weavile
[5:11pm] Andrew: .
[5:11pm] Limitless: i made a yanmega team that thrashed harsha, but that's beside the point!
[5:11pm] Limitless: anyways
[5:11pm] Limitless: u can just keep sr off the field
[5:11pm] harsha: lol
[5:11pm] Jirachee: not surprising.
[5:11pm] Jirachee: :)
[5:11pm] Limitless: better than using a spinner
[5:11pm] Limitless: so i had
[5:11pm] Limitless: smeargle with
[5:11pm] Limitless: spore
[5:11pm] windsong: limitless talking about thrashing harsha like that's a challenge....
[5:11pm] Limitless: magic bounce or w/e
[5:11pm] windsong: jokes harsha's cute <3
[5:11pm] Andrew: thrashing harsha is hard?
[5:11pm] Limitless: and then my offensive pressure
[5:12pm] Limitless: didn't let him setup sr
[5:12pm] Limitless: that's how offense works
[5:12pm] LK: can we ask questions about battling too, like how you plan your game when using an offensive team
[5:12pm] Limitless: that will be devoted to another seminar
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[5:13pm] TheSuperSayianBreloom: should i use offense or heavy offense?
[5:13pm] Andrew: up to you
[5:13pm] Limitless: just depends on you
[5:13pm] Andrew: on what you want to try
[5:13pm] TheSuperSayianBreloom: is weavile good anymore?
[5:13pm] harsha: offense is all the same thing, kill or be killed. heavy and standard offense are just classifications that are imposed based on how you build
[5:13pm] ColdBl00ded: what is the best way to set up a offensive team in NU
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[5:14pm] HS8: hello
[5:14pm] windsong: heavy offense
[5:14pm] HS8: is anyone still here
[5:14pm] windsong: is probably the easiest playstyle to use
[5:14pm] windsong: and undoubtably the best for learning basic concepts of playing offense
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[5:14pm] ColdBl00ded: what is a good build than for a offensive team?
[5:15pm] HS8: ? anyone here ?
[5:15pm] TheSuperSayianBreloom: is weavile good anymore? i heard it is
[5:15pm] harsha: weavile is usable
[5:15pm] windsong: it's very niche
[5:15pm] harsha: calling it good is a stretch, but it does its job
[5:15pm] HS8: I have never played pokemon competetively can someone help me get a start on team building?
[5:16pm] TheSuperSayianBreloom: so to keep offensive pressure you just click the strongest move to use?
[5:16pm] TheSuperSayianBreloom: on the opponent?
[5:16pm] Limitless: lol
[5:16pm] harsha: lol
[5:17pm] HS8: ?
[5:17pm] windsong: guys :|
[5:17pm] Limitless: i can save us
[5:17pm] Limitless: That would be a battling question
[5:17pm] Limitless: Devoted to another seminar!
[5:17pm] HS8: can anyone help me?
[5:18pm] harsha: hs8, i'll pm you in a sec
[5:18pm] Limitless: That would be applying everything we've taught
[5:18pm] HS8: are you talking to me?
[5:18pm] Rwhite84: Lol good save
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[5:18pm] harsha: but @TheSuperSayianBreloom, no, you want to maintain momentum by forcing switches, using pivot moves, etc
[5:18pm] HS8: ok
[5:19pm] harsha: we'll cover that in more detail at some other time
[5:19pm] TheSuperSayianBreloom: is voltturn like offense except in a different manner? just wondering
[5:20pm] harsha: volt turn is offense, with emphasis on momentum rather than power
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[5:21pm] TheSuperSayianBreloom: is there much prediction or no?
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[5:22pm] windsong: the idea of volt turn
[5:22pm] windsong: is that you can avoid having to make guesses ("predictions")
[5:22pm] windsong: since with volt switch + u-turn you're always keeping offensive momentum
[5:23pm] ColdBl00ded: Whats the easiest way to choose different types of moves on each pokemon and different pokemon types in your team to gain overall coverage
[5:23pm] harsha: yeah like windsong said
[5:23pm] harsha: it minimizes prediction
[5:24pm] harsha: and ColdBl00ded, generally it'll be clear-cut
[5:24pm] harsha: what are some specific examples where you had trouble?
[5:24pm] TheSuperSayianBreloom: so its like x pokemon use u-turn but x pokemon switched out so you send in x pokemon and use x momentum move but they switched out again and you just repeat right?
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[5:25pm] ColdBl00ded: I mean like in general… When you are building a team and you want maximum coverage that goes along with attacks and the pokemon themselves.
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[5:25pm] ColdBl00ded: So that you can wall many different types, but also hit just as many for super effective damage
[5:25pm] harsha: honestly
[5:25pm] harsha: using the smogon dex
[5:25pm] harsha: will give you all the moves you really need
[5:26pm] HotNCold: volturn w/ bulky mons + offensive sweepers (balance) work p.well on this meta
[5:26pm] HotNCold: mons such forrestres / bulky scizor uturn / celebi SpD / rotom-w SpD
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[5:28pm] harsha: TheSuperSayianBreloom
[5:28pm] harsha: rinse and repeat sounds right
[5:28pm] HS8: who is that?
[5:28pm] harsha: make sure you get hazards down early
[5:28pm] harsha: "rinse and repeat" = doing that over and over
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[5:29pm] harsha: but as i was saying, by getting hazards down early, you're effectively carrying out your strategy much more quickly
[5:29pm] harsha: to the point where you'll be able to sweep earlier
[5:31pm] harsha: ok i planned for this to go on until 6:30 edt and we're there now
[5:31pm] Issues: good way to identify offensive synergy
[5:31pm] Issues: ?
[5:31pm] harsha: if you have questions go ahead and ask
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[5:31pm] harsha: identify offensive synergy?
[5:31pm] harsha: how do you mean
[5:32pm] Issues: Thank you Harsha!
[5:32pm] HS8: um i have no idea how to make a team
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[5:33pm] Issues: and I meant how can you tell keldeo is good with tyranitar
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[5:33pm] harsha: ahh
[5:33pm] harsha: well you see
[5:33pm] Funkasaurus: Keldeo's checks are killed by ttar
[5:33pm] Funkasaurus: yere
[5:33pm] harsha: yep
[5:33pm] harsha: keldeo's checks are:
[5:33pm] harsha: latias, latios, jellicent, celebi
[5:33pm] Funkasaurus: latias and celebi
[5:33pm] Funkasaurus: lati@s
[5:33pm] harsha: tyranitar can KO all of those
[5:34pm] harsha: that's why they have good offensive synergy
[5:34pm] windsong: they also look cute together
[5:34pm] harsha: n__n
[5:34pm] Jirachee: it can pursuit them
[5:34pm] Issues: ok lol thanks to all the contributors. very helpful!
[5:34pm] HS8: O-O
[5:34pm] Jirachee: which is different from killing them!
[5:34pm] harsha: yeah jirachee is right
[5:34pm] harsha: i said it badly
[5:35pm] harsha: tyranitar can KO them by trapping them with pursuit
[5:35pm] harsha: anyways any more questions? if not, thanks to everyone for coming