Drama in #SRD

(04:43:49) (@stopscopiesme) and jesus replied "Oh ye of little faith" and showed him
(04:43:56) (ShadowBanned2) his dick
(04:44:10) (reese_ridley) ah, new testament
(04:44:14) (@stopscopiesme) yup
(04:44:22) (reese_ridley) I grew up Jewish, so I know the old testament really well
(04:44:28) (@stopscopiesme) also shadowbanned2 speaking of being a dick...
(04:44:33) (@stopscopiesme) you were one yesterday
(04:44:36) (ShadowBanned2) was not!
(04:44:46) (@stopscopiesme) are you shadowbanned2 on reddit?
(04:44:49) (ShadowBanned2) yup
(04:44:50) (ShadowBanned2) haha
(04:45:09) (ShadowBanned2) The free market decided I was right though
(04:45:34) (@stopscopiesme) lolwut
(04:45:50) (ShadowBanned2) my karma
(04:45:52) (ShadowBanned2) exploded
(04:46:15) (ShadowBanned2) in a way that made me feel euphoric
(04:46:27) (HexagonSun) oh god, do people really think that feminism has properly adressed every gender issue that effects men?
(04:46:50) (@stopscopiesme) lol, idk what's worse, people hopping on the "demod stopscopiesme" bandwagon because of misinformation or they wanted to follow the karma jerk
(04:47:12) (ShadowBanned2) I'm with the demod stops
(04:47:13) (ShadowBanned2) sorry
(04:47:27) (HexagonSun) oh wait, the thread was linked by srs
(04:47:27) (ShadowBanned2) also against the megathread
(04:47:35) (HexagonSun) that explains the cognitive dissonance
(04:47:43) (ShadowBanned2) and I think np is stupid, but I have no real issue with it
(04:48:42) (ShadowBanned2) I say we revive LordGaGa, pay off whatever money she owed, and mod her!
(04:49:09) (reese_ridley) I say we mod reese_ridley
(04:49:19) (ShadowBanned2) or ShadowBanned2
(04:49:23) (reese_ridley) he will fix all your problems
(04:49:28) (ShadowBanned2) I feel I have a lot to add to the community
(04:49:30) (reese_ridley) by being better than scopies in every way
(04:49:32) (@stopscopiesme) http://www.reddit.com/r/SubredditDrama/comments/1dqnvr/meta_state_of_the_subreddit/c9tb5cb?context=3
(04:49:34) (Crow) shadowbanned2 comments on [Meta] State of the Subreddit - posted by lmrm7 - 1 day ago - 233 upvotes, 83 downvotes - 906 comments
(04:49:39) (@stopscopiesme) that's why I remembered your name
(04:49:49) (ShadowBanned2) http://i.imgur.com/Em0Ei6s.png like this
(04:50:07) (reese_ridley) >OH my, you poor victim. I can't believe what these people are doing to you. Stay strong brother. Don't let these patriarchal hitler lovers get to you!
(04:50:18) (reese_ridley) SB2, that actually is kind of a dick thing to say
(04:50:37) (ShadowBanned2) lol he was going on a long rant about being oppressed by the subreddit
(04:51:10) (@stopscopiesme) was anything I said untrue?
(04:51:16) (ShadowBanned2) it was whiny
(04:51:30) (ShadowBanned2) I don't have an issue with it, just mocked it as I thought it was stupid
(04:51:32) (ShadowBanned2) like np
(04:51:41) (@stopscopiesme) so if I point out I'm being falsely accused of a whole mess of things, I'm whining?
(04:52:05) (space_ball) yay drama time. lemme turn over the engine in my popcorn machine
(04:52:12) (HexagonSun) eh, you did remove "notable drama" a few times
(04:52:18) (ShadowBanned2) get the screenbot ready space_ball
(04:52:26) (space_ball) oh i'm always ready
(04:52:40) (@stopscopiesme) if I removed any thread, it was for rule violations
(04:52:52) (@stopscopiesme) nothing more, nothing less
(04:53:28) (ShadowBanned2) you are a lot more hard core with the delete button
(04:53:49) (ShadowBanned2) your use of the delete button is more hardcore than my tastes in shitty punk rock music
(04:53:50) (@stopscopiesme) people in that very thread were complaining about things NOT being removed
(04:53:58) (ShadowBanned2) spam
(04:53:59) (reese_ridley) god forbid moderators actually moderate
(04:54:16) (HexagonSun) sorry for doubting you, inspector javert :P
(04:54:19) (@stopscopiesme) we get accused of moderating too much and not moderating enough
(04:54:22) (@stopscopiesme) we can't win
(04:54:40) (ShadowBanned2) there is a difference between spam, and things that might in some vauge way sort of resemble something that could eventually almost look SJW related
(04:54:48) (space_ball) the only winning move is not to play
(04:54:57) (HexagonSun) most of the criticism will die off once you fix the megathread issue, too
(04:54:59) (HexagonSun) there's that
(04:55:20) (@stopscopiesme) nah, people are always mad about something. it's just a question of how many
(04:55:27) (ShadowBanned2) but seriously the community would stop bitching if you would get rid of the de facto ban on SRS
(04:55:37) (HexagonSun) well, there are always crazies that hate you
(04:55:38) (@stopscopiesme) SRD has become a battle ground for all sorts of warring factions
(04:55:52) (ShadowBanned2) You became the face of the defacto ban
(04:55:58) (HexagonSun) it's just the community in general is more like mildly annoyed if I would characterize it
(04:56:31) (@stopscopiesme) sorry to disappoint, but its not looking like that policy is changing. SRD is fickle and has a short memory, but we banned SRS drama in resonse to a meta post REQUESTING such
(04:56:31) (ShadowBanned2) whether that is fair or not I don't really know
(04:56:47) (ShadowBanned2) I remember the requests
(04:57:09) (@stopscopiesme) of all the mutiple mega threads in the laste few weeks, only the 2 recent ones went badly
(04:57:12) (HexagonSun) um, that's because people thought the megathread wouldn't suck
(04:57:21) (HexagonSun) um, all of them have sucked, though
(04:57:33) (ShadowBanned2) No one thinks the mega thread is working
(04:57:52) (HexagonSun) you're delusional if you think otherwise scopies
(04:58:21) (ShadowBanned2) It was one of the main reasons I pretty much stopped looking at SRD for a while
(04:58:27) (@stopscopiesme) the megathread itself was problematic. but it did exactly what the modteam wanted, and that was allow more niche drama to get attention
(04:58:36) (@stopscopiesme) SRD is not a call out sub to catalogue the wrongs of SRS
(04:58:42) (@stopscopiesme) and it was being used as one
(04:58:50) (ShadowBanned2) Why not just use a tagging system?
(04:58:55) (reese_ridley) the megathread is a bad solution though
(04:59:01) (HexagonSun) aaaaaand this is why people dislike your modding style scopies
(04:59:03) (ShadowBanned2) your subreddit is dying
(04:59:06) (reese_ridley) either use flair tagging or just ban it altogether
(04:59:07) (HexagonSun) you treat the megathread like this
(04:59:49) * @stopscopiesme shrugs
(05:00:29) (HexagonSun) So I guess you can circlejerk about people thinking of you as a shill
(05:00:44) (@stopscopiesme) lol
(05:00:50) (HexagonSun) but in the end you're ignoring your userbase, and it probably will make things a bit more
(05:00:54) (HexagonSun) heated
(05:01:02) (@stopscopiesme) hey, I tried telling them I wasn't a shill
(05:01:16) (HexagonSun) okay
(05:01:25) (HexagonSun) so?
(05:01:37) (reese_ridley) scopies here's what I would do if I were you
(05:01:38) (HexagonSun) has that fixed that fact that the megathread is a problem?
(05:01:58) (reese_ridley) I think you guys are gonna have to find another solution. the megathread just isn't working.
(05:02:10) (ShadowBanned2) why are you against the tagging solution? It worked for Hitler with the Jews!
(05:02:20) (@stopscopiesme) if it's no SRS drama or megathread, we'll go no SRS drama
(05:02:27) (space_ball) oh snappity
(05:02:31) (reese_ridley) so be it
(05:02:31) (HexagonSun) okay
(05:02:39) (HexagonSun) enjoy being hated then
(05:02:42) (space_ball) +10 points sick jooz joke
(05:02:47) (reese_ridley) but you personally might not want to be the one to post that
(05:02:58) (reese_ridley) get britishenglishpolice to do it lel
(05:02:59) (ShadowBanned2) high five space_ball
(05:03:02) (@stopscopiesme) like I said, we're still discussing internally
(05:03:02) (ShadowBanned2) o/
(05:03:06) (@stopscopiesme) lol bep
(05:03:07) (space_ball) \o
(05:03:07) (@stopscopiesme) lol
(05:03:09) (HexagonSun) no worries, word will leak that you're the one that supported it
(05:03:09) (@stopscopiesme) bep
(05:03:12) (@stopscopiesme) mfw bep
(05:03:33) (ShadowBanned2) this whoe conversation is probably getting leaked to at lest r/drama
(05:03:38) (space_ball) oh yeah, remember when bep took over the channel and then remade the whole thing and then left forever
(05:03:47) (space_ball) that was funny
(05:03:52) (ShadowBanned2) back during the syncretic incident?
(05:03:53) (@stopscopiesme) Modacoplypse 2012
(05:03:55) (@stopscopiesme) no
(05:04:02) (@stopscopiesme) MF gave lots of people ops
(05:04:07) (@stopscopiesme) including laurelai
(05:04:16) (@stopscopiesme) and she immediately used them to kick all the people she hated
(05:04:20) (@stopscopiesme) it was anarchy
(05:04:25) (HexagonSun) what an idiot
(05:04:39) (@stopscopiesme) then bep caught win and de-opped all the new ops and deflagged all the regular ops
(05:04:51) (@stopscopiesme) eh, it was just the channel being silly
(05:05:04) (@stopscopiesme) laurelai was only going to have kick powers for a few minutes
(05:05:28) (space_ball) zswas in a panic and decided to let bep take care of the whole thing because he's such an "experienced" mod and the whole thing ended up making the sub look like a joke
(05:05:30) - stopscopiesme changes topic to: Offical channel of /r/subredditdrama
(05:05:49) (space_ball) it's never recovered
(05:05:53) (reese_ridley) scopies you guys are kind of in a lose lose situation with SRS drama
(05:06:02) (space_ball) and it's definitely getting worse
(05:06:05) (ShadowBanned2) not really
(05:06:08) (reese_ridley) if you just let it slide, the front page will suck
(05:06:14) (reese_ridley) and people will hate you
(05:06:22) (HexagonSun) well, mainly because he's adamant about the whole megathread sillyness
(05:06:24) (reese_ridley) if you ban it, people will REALLY hate you
(05:06:26) (ShadowBanned2) The tagging rule would work perfectly
(05:06:33) (reese_ridley) no it wouldn
(05:06:38) (ShadowBanned2) why wouldn't it?
(05:06:56) (@stopscopiesme) I explained earlier
(05:07:23) * ShadowBanned2 *shrugs
(05:07:33) (ShadowBanned2) isn't much of an explanation
(05:08:06) (space_ball) you explained that you all essentially don't think it will work, which is not any sort of explanation.
(05:08:14) (reese_ridley) here's an idea
(05:08:17) (HexagonSun) so when people are accusing you of stifling a certain type of drama
(05:08:23) (HexagonSun) it's because you are, dude
(05:08:26) (ShadowBanned2) i missed it, can I get some copy and paste here?
(05:08:34) (@stopscopiesme) I'll just restate
(05:08:38) (@stopscopiesme) I don't feel like scrolling
(05:08:41) (space_ball) sorry to join in, but you really aren't making any sense, scopes. I have no problem with you, but I'm having a tough time following your logic
(05:08:50) (HexagonSun) oh that is a weaksauce explaination
(05:09:09) (@stopscopiesme) people were using SRD as a call-out sub for SRS, and SRD is *not* a call out sub
(05:09:12) (space_ball) explain srd to me like i'm five
(05:09:20) (HexagonSun) ah, so you don't like srs drama :P
(05:09:32) (@stopscopiesme) *who* is not important to me
(05:09:41) (@stopscopiesme) it's the call-out part I don't like
(05:09:50) (space_ball) the whole sub is a call out
(05:09:53) (space_ball) !!!
(05:09:56) (reese_ridley) here's my advice scopies
(05:09:58) (space_ball) that's the whole basis of the sub
(05:10:01) (space_ball) !!
(05:10:06) (@stopscopiesme) nope!
(05:10:07) (HexagonSun) people call out /r/childfree
(05:10:08) (ShadowBanned2) the were like at the most 3 or 4 posts to SRD a day
(05:10:09) (space_ball) YES
(05:10:10) (reese_ridley) you should probably back off of SRD for a while
(05:10:10) (HexagonSun) r/cringe
(05:10:21) (reese_ridley) the more you post, the more frustrated you will get
(05:10:24) (HexagonSun) r/niggers (they deserved it though)
(05:10:27) (space_ball) oh, man you really don't get it
(05:10:32) (reese_ridley) the more frustrated you get, the more people will hate you
(05:10:34) (HexagonSun) and others
(05:10:44) (HexagonSun) again, it's drama you don't like
(05:10:46) (reese_ridley) and the more people that hate you, the more frustrated you'll get
(05:10:58) (reese_ridley) it's a vicious circle and it ends with your head on a spike
(05:11:04) (reese_ridley) I saw it happen to leftonhahe
(05:11:04) (ShadowBanned2) until you become the next laurelai
(05:11:08) (space_ball) it's a "drama" sub where the posts "call out" people for being dramatic
(05:11:09) (HexagonSun) I mean, I was pretty sympathetic towards you before this conversation
(05:11:17) (@stopscopiesme) lol
(05:11:21) (HexagonSun) now you just seem kind of childish
(05:11:35) (@stopscopiesme) see, there's a fundemental problem, of if SRD is a call-out sub or not
(05:11:42) (space_ball) how the hell have you singled out srs as being fundamentally different
(05:12:02) (space_ball) oh man you truly are delusional
(05:12:17) (@stopscopiesme) I'm not the only mod
(05:12:20) (HexagonSun) I wouldn't go that far subway
(05:12:22) (space_ball) no shit
(05:12:32) (@stopscopiesme) I'm just the most active one
(05:12:38) (reese_ridley) dude I'm as far from pro-SRS as it gets and even I will admit that a lot of SRS drama is repetitive and boring
(05:12:50) (HexagonSun) but still, you do seem like the guy whos pointing the plane to the ground
(05:13:01) (space_ball) hey man, I appreciate that you hang out in the lions den, but you have to at least make a little bit of sense
(05:13:09) (ShadowBanned2) if you don't like SRS drama you could just decide not to click on it
(05:13:26) (@stopscopiesme) that's not the issue. I don't like people misusing SRD
(05:13:39) (HexagonSun) we've already addressed this, dude
(05:13:41) (@stopscopiesme) and trying to turn it into /r/TheCourtofReddit
(05:13:56) (ShadowBanned2) then why not have a ban on r/atheism ?
(05:13:58) (ShadowBanned2) r/cringe
(05:14:00) (HexagonSun) again, every post does that
(05:14:02) (ShadowBanned2) r/niggers
(05:14:04) (space_ball) sigh, obviously I just don't get the way you see things, because you're overthinking it and being a bit biased
(05:14:15) (HexagonSun) you're running in circles, scopies
(05:14:33) (@stopscopiesme) it's all just opinions
(05:14:33) (HexagonSun) and you really really really should consider leaving the srs stuff to the other mods
(05:14:36) (space_ball) but whatever, you couldn't pay me enough to mod that place, so I commend your effort I guess
(05:14:45) (ShadowBanned2) I'd happily mod it
(05:14:47) (@stopscopiesme) there's no right or wrong answer, and at the end of the day its just a forum
(05:14:56) (@stopscopiesme) people are taking it wayyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyy too seriously
(05:14:59) (HexagonSun) you're going all daemon on us scopes
(05:15:11) (HexagonSun) okay, you probably shouldn't mod it then
(05:15:21) (ShadowBanned2) if you don't like the subreddit why do you mod it?
(05:15:56) (HexagonSun) scopies, do you have finals soon?
(05:16:02) (@stopscopiesme) Having
(05:16:06) (@stopscopiesme) I should be studying, lol
(05:16:12) (HexagonSun) okay, worry about those for now
(05:16:14) (HexagonSun) okay?
(05:16:23) (ShadowBanned2) and I'll take care of the modding for you!
(05:16:26) (ShadowBanned2) just mod me up!
(05:16:36) (HexagonSun) MF will hold things up for you
(05:16:52) (space_ball) look, here's my last point - who's to say that srd isn't a "call-out" sub for cringepics? nobody, because they like that drama and nobody has risen up to defend *that* sub. why is srs different? think about it.