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  1. ===================CECICIDES VEGA NOTES==============================
  2.  
  3.  
  4. This isn't a vega guide by any means just some statistics, combos and tips. This is made for Beta build 1.05
  5. Some things are undiscovered or I may have accidently left out during test, I will update this list later on.
  6.  
  7.  
  8.  
  9. Most of you will know by now that Vega is no longer a charge character and uses motions.
  10. I believe he will be quite a strong character, his light roll does appear to be very very safe on block,
  11. before each section I will put tips and notes about his normals in the appropriate stance.
  12. His roll is also named Crimson Terror, this is not another version of his flipkick (Scarlet Terror).
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  19. ----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
  20. (TIPS)
  21. In claw mode he is essentially a zoner, deadly long range pokes and his jabs into light roll are fantastic safe pressure options.
  22. His only cancellable normals are st. hp (first hit only) and his light punches (lp) both crouching and standing.
  23. All of his lights chain into each other, but do not lead anywhere beyond that.
  24. His anti airs are H. Aurora Edge (slow but it has its uses) and cr. hp (odd hitbox same as USF4, learn the ranges)
  25. J. hp and hk are good jump in tools, J.hp useful for other things too. Still has his crossup in J.lk
  26. St. mp is a fantastic poke and st. hp which also leads into good damage has nice range so dont be afraid to use it.
  27. St+F. hp is also an slow incredibly long range poke, okayish for whiff punishing certain things.
  28. St+F. mk is his overhead, slightly easier input than in 4, appears to have its range neutered.
  29. You don't get much off his wall dive slash in this mode without V trigger as it will knock them down quickly
  30.  
  31.  
  32. List of cancellables in this mode for quick reference:
  33. st. lp
  34. cr. lp
  35. st. hp (first hit only)
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  42.  
  43. -=CLAW ON=- (DAMAGE) (STUN) (FOLLOWUPS AND EX VERSIONS/NOTES)
  44.  
  45. Cr lp. Cr lp xx L.Crimson Terror 151 DAMAGE. 229 STUN.
  46.  
  47. St hp xx H. Aurora Edge 187 DAMAGE. 280 STUN. (EX edge) 246 DAMAGE. 280 STUN.
  48.  
  49. St hp. St hp xx Matador Turn (slash) 200 DAMAGE. 236 STUN.
  50.  
  51. St hp xx EX Flying Barcelona (grab) 249 DAMAGE. 260 STUN.
  52.  
  53. St hp xx EX Flying Barcelona (slash) 213 DAMAGE. 260 STUN.
  54.  
  55. St hp xx H. Crimson Terror 227 DAMAGE. 244 STUN. (EX Terror) 247 DAMAGE. 262 STUN.
  56.  
  57. Barcelona (slash) xx H. Aurora edge 198 DAMAGE. 330 STUN. (L. Edge better hitbox and same stats.)
  58.  
  59. Barcelona (slash) xx V Trigger 273 DAMAGE. 150 STUN. (Bloody rain followup) 534 DAMAGE. 150 STUN.
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  61. EX Barcelona (slash) xx H. Aurora edge ??? DAMAGE. ??? STUN. (L. Edge better hitbox and same stats.
  62. (Dont recall if EX Edge works but it probably does) ??? DAMAGE. ??? STUN.
  63.  
  64. EX Barcelona (slash) xx V Trigger ??? DAMAGE. ??? STUN.
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  66. ----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
  67.  
  68. (TIPS)
  69. In clawless mode is where Vega can really open up his combo potential. In this mode he has an array
  70. of cancellable normals, a target combo and even a command grab. I will just go over some quick notes here
  71. as there is alot of different things.
  72.  
  73. From a wall dive (Flying Barcelona) slash you can move into cr. mk which leads into his target combo (juggle a rose from it)
  74. you have to hit fairly low to get the cr. mk from it you can also just go straight into the target combo from st. mp. His cancellable normals are
  75. greatly improved in this mode: His lights still chain into each other, in addition st. lk chains into cr. mp which can now be special
  76. cancelled. His st. mp can now be special cancelled but you may aswell just fulfill the target combo since the st.hk also now cancels BUT ONLY IF
  77. its part of a target combo, raw st. hk still will not cancel, however you can target combo from a raw st. hk. His st. hp will now special cancel.
  78.  
  79. List of cancellables in this mode for quick reference:
  80. st. hk (target combo version only)
  81. st. lp
  82. cr. lp
  83. st. hp
  84. cr. mp
  85.  
  86.  
  87. -=CLAW OFF=-
  88.  
  89. St lk. Cr mp xx EX Flying Barcelona (slash) 202 DAMAGE. 300 STUN.
  90.  
  91. St lk. Cr mp xx EX Flying Barcelona (grab) 233 DAMAGE. 300 STUN.
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  93. St lk. Cr mp xx V Trigger 245 DAMAGE. 160 STUN. (Bloody rain followup) 466 DAMAGE. 160 STUN.
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  95. St lk. Cr mp xx M. Crimson Terror 180 DAMAGE. 272 STUN. (EX Terror) 212 DAMAGE. 304 STUN.
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  97. St lp. St lk. Cr mp xx M. Crimson Terror 208 DAMAGE. 311 STUN. (EX Terror) 238 DAMAGE. 339 STUN.
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  99. Cr lp. Cr lp xx L.Crimson Terror 151 DAMAGE. 229 STUN.
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  101. Cr lk. St lk. Cr mp xx M. Crimson Terror 197 DAMAGE. 311 STUN. (EX Terror) 227 DAMAGE. 339 STUN.
  102.  
  103. Cr lk. St lk. Cr mp xx V Trigger 237 DAMAGE. 213 STUN. (Bloody rain followup/EX FBA unavailable) 421 DAMAGE. 213 STUN.
  104.  
  105. St mp xx M. Crimson Terror 185 DAMAGE. 226 STUN. (EX Terror) 225 DAMAGE. 262 STUN.
  106.  
  107. Target combo xx Matador Turn (slash) 189 DAMAGE. 236 STUN.
  108.  
  109. Target combo xx V Trigger 298 DAMAGE. 172 STUN. (Bloody rain followup) 524 DAMAGE. 172 STUN.
  110.  
  111. Target combo xx EX Flying Barcelona (grab) 286 DAMAGE. 312 STUN.
  112.  
  113. Target combo xx EX Flying Barcelona (slash) 251 DAMAGE. 312 STUN.
  114.  
  115. St. hk. Target combo xx Matador Turn (slash) 256 DAMAGE. 360 STUN.
  116.  
  117. Cr. mk. Target combo xx Matador Turn (slash) 223 DAMAGE. 310 STUN.
  118.  
  119. Cr. mk. Target combo xx V Trigger 316 DAMAGE. 254 STUN. (Bloody rain followup) 452 DAMAGE. 254 STUN.
  120.  
  121. Cr. mk. Target combo xx EX Flying Barcelona (grab) 256 DAMAGE. 374 STUN.
  122.  
  123. Cr. mk. Target combo xx EX Flying Barcelona (slash) 224 DAMAGE. 330 STUN.
  124.  
  125. Cr. mk. Cr. mp xx M. Crimson Terror 220 DAMAGE. 302 STUN. (EX Terror) 256 DAMAGE. 334 STUN.
  126.  
  127. Cr. mk. Cr. mp xx EX Flying Barcelona (grab) 255 DAMAGE. 330 STUN.
  128.  
  129. Cr. mk. Cr. mp xx EX Flying Barcelona (slash) 244 DAMAGE. 330 STUN.
  130.  
  131. St. hp xx Crimson Terror 227 DAMAGE. 294 STUN. (EX Terror) 247 DAMAGE. 312 STUN.
  132.  
  133. St. hp xx EX Flying Barcelona (grab) 249 DAMAGE. 310 STUN.
  134.  
  135. St. hp xx EX Flying Barcelona (slash) 213 DAMAGE. 310 STUN.
  136.  
  137. St. hp xx EX Flying Barcelona (slash) + V trigger 345 DAMAGE. 310 STUN. (Bloody rain followup SPOILERS: NO METER TO DO THIS, JUST FOR FUN) 527 DAMAGE 310 STUN.
  138.  
  139. Flying Barcelona (slash). Target combo xx V Trigger 327 DAMAGE. 254 STUN. (Bloody rain followup) 511 DAMAGE. 254 STUN.
  140.  
  141. Flying Barcelona (slash). cr. mk. Target combo xx V Trigger ??? ??? (Bloody rain followup) ??? ???
  142.  
  143. Flying Barcelona (slash). cr. mk. Target combo xx Matador Turn ??? ???
  144.  
  145. EX Flying Barcelona (slash). Cr.mk. Target combo xx Matador Turn 330 DAMAGE. 474 STUN.
  146.  
  147. EX Flying Barcelona (slash). Cr.mk. Target combo xx V trigger 408 DAMAGE. 426 STUN. (Bloody rain followup SPOILERS: NO METER TO DO THIS, JUST FOR FUN) 590 DAMAGE. 426 STUN.
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  150. ----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
  151.  
  152.  
  153. (TIPS FOR BOTH STANCES)
  154. His EX Flying Barcelona is very fast. If you press down and hit the button for a slash follow up he moves directly down quite significantly, I'm not sure why but its handy)
  155.  
  156. -=STANCE SWAP COMBO=-
  157.  
  158. Claw off . St. hp xx switch. St. hp xx switch. Cr mp xx M. Crimson Terror 330 DAMAGE. 448 STUN. (APPEARS TO BE A 1 FRAME LINK, EX Terror stats unknown, other special cancels stats unknown)
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  161. -----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
  162.  
  163. I hope this was of some use to whoever decided to read it and that you learned something that will help you body Karin's and other waifufaggotry characters.
  164. Written 10/24/2015 by:
  165. -Cecicide/Cecicidal/CecillieaKG, fairly terrible and laggy ass up and coming Vega star
  166. #Riseup
  167. #Fuckwaifufags
  168. #Karinbodybags
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