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  2. ESO
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  5. THE MANE is the leader of Elsweyr. kinda like the high king of Skyrim. traditionally, a mane is picked when a single khajiit is born under a unique moon alignment. but in ESO, instead you guide a random khajiit into becoming THE MANE
  6. EXCERPT: As it turns out, the Khajiit was born under the phase of the moon http://www.uesp.net/wiki/Online:Shazah
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  8. In the 2nd era, Cyrodiil was supposed to be a rain forest before Tiber Septim came in. but in ESO, it looks like it did in oblivion
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  10. Ebonarm was originally referenced in "From The Memory Stone of Makela Leki" but all references to Ebonarm were removed in ESO
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  12. Maormer were described as having colorless, chameleon-like skin, but instead of having that in ESO, they have metallic skin.
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  14. Alot of books written in the 3rd and 4th era were in Daggerfall, when the authors didn't even exist yet. This applies to more than just the Lusty Argonian Maid. There are in-game explanations to this however, such as Herma-Mora followers conjuring books from different times, and another where a book from the 4th Era shows up behind a stack of Elder Scrolls, implying that the Elder Scrolls might have had something to do with it.
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  16. The Town of Cropsford wasn't even founded until the 3rd era when the Champion of Cyrodiil drove away the Goblin tribes allowing the town's founders to settle the town and get it started, yet the town appears in ESO.
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  18. The invasion of Molag Bal was never mentioned in any book or dialogue in any other game. despite the fact that it SHOULD. They just basically made
  19. up some shit and went with it. As a result, people put ESO in a dragonbreak and say it doesnt have anything to do with the main timeline
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  21. The Alliances make no sense. The Dunmer have been enslaving the Argonians for thousands of years, and the Nords have been constantly trying to take the land of Morrowind for centuries. These 3 provinces teaming up makes no sense. Orcs also have been treated for thousands of years like beasts and mongrels by EVERYONE in the empire, and yet the Daggerfall Covenent suddenly accepts them into their ranks, only to treat them like dogs again once ESO is over.
  22. Excerpt: They make a bit of sense:
  23. http://en.uesp.net/wiki/Lore:From_Argonian_to_Saxhleel
  24. http://en.uesp.net/wiki/Lore:The_Second_Akaviri_Invasion
  25. http://en.uesp.net/wiki/Lore:Jorunn_the_Skald-King_(book)
  26. http://en.uesp.net/wiki/Lore:Unexpected_Allies
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  28. They made Almalexia, whom in MORROWIND is this beautiful golden skinned, red headed Chimer goddess, into looking like a Bosmer Volkihar vampire.
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  30. They made the Hlaalu a great house centuries before they actually were one. In established lore, the Hlaalu were pretty insignificant until the Armistice between Tiber Septim and the Tribunal was signed, and Imperial-Dunmeri relations opened. But in ESO they're just suddenly important.
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  32. Ayleids ruins are now apparently FUCKING EVERYWHERE which begs the question of how they even managed to go extinct in the first place.
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  34. In Skyrim, there are three Nordic ruins in Eastmarch. Of those three ruins, the one they chose to feature in ESO, as something anyone can casually travel to, is the one ruin in Skyrim specifically stated to be impossible to reach, Skuldafn, that also just so happens to contain a fucking portal to Sovngarde.
  35. Excerpt: This could be explained as "a path in the 2E is no longer available in the 4E"
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  37. Sheogorath is shown in his Skyrim outfit, when he should have been shown as he was in either Daggerfall, Morrowind, or even Oblivion.
  38.  
  39. Excerpt: could just be a change in his wardrobe
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  41. The Mages Guild enchant maker vending machines as described in various text are nowhere to be seen
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  43. Vvardenfell should have been deserted by all except the ashlanders at the time of ESO, as stated here http://www.uesp.net/wiki/Morrowind:A_Short_History_of_Morrowind#On_Vvardenfell_District
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  46. Skyrim
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  48. It was previously stated that the entirety of skyrim was an icy snowy wasteland, however, in the game there are fields upon fields of grass and wheatfields. if you look up Arena's map of Skyrim most of it is Tundra. So Winterhold shouldn't have the same climate that it does in Skyrim.
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  50. The Nordic Pantheon was retconned for the Imperial Pantheon. Instead of worshipping Shor, Nords now worship Akatosh
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  52. The Pride of Tel Vos states that House Telvanni was wiped out from the Red Year, however Master Neloth is in DRAGONBORN and seems to indicate that House Telvannis is still very much alive. This means the game contradicts itself
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  54. Mjoll states that she hunted cliff racers, however DAWNGUARD states that St. Jiub hunted them all down. Another case of the game contradicting itself
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  56. In Skyrim the Nords are NOT fighting over the mountain pass between Riften and Morrowind although Oblivion lore said this had always been a highly contested area. Although there could have been a truce.
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  58. Prior to Skyrim, Alduin was one interpretation of the Anu-aligned half of Aka-Tusk. Who is also known as Auriel and Akatosh.
  59. With Skyrim, Alduin claims to be the firstborn of Akatosh instead. /r/teslore decided that Alduin lied in order to get rid of this contradiction
  60.  
  61. accounts in Skyrm and Dragonborn agree that the Imperial Legions were withdrawn from the provinces during the Oblivion crisis, which made them restless. Which blatantly didn't happen in Oblivion. Ocato even tells you off when you suggest doing so.
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  63. The timeline of abandonment of Solstheim makes no sense. https://redd.it/21o0gl
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  65. The Blades identity as Akaviri-descended Dragon hunters makes little sense as they were a secret service as of Daggerfall and Morrowind (and bodyguards plus a secret service in Oblivion).
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  67. As of Bloodmoon, the Draugr were cannibals and were cursed with undeath for this. Either Skyrim has a really bad problem with cannibals, or this can't be true. Half the corpses in any give burial site are Draugr. Skyrim also just states that Draugr are members of the Dragon Cult.
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  69. Excerpt: The blades were originally dragon slayers, when the dragons disappeared they protect the emperor
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  71. Bloodmoon was pretty clear that Nord believe that Sovngarde is Shor's fortress, a literal physical place that they can travel to. They apparently have pilgrimages to sites where they think it is. As of Skyrim it's just Valhalla. In Bloodmoon, it was a Breton writer who came up with the idea that Sovngarde might not actually be a physical place but an afterlife for the valiant. And he was a nobody in the middle of Solstheim.
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  73. The Rorikstead issue. Some guy claimed it was named after him and yet, Ragnar the Red references Old Rorikstead, which is probably not named after that guy, as the place is old as fuck.
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  75. Before Skyrim, Vaermina was known as the creator of Vampires. Derar Hlervu's dialogue implies so, as does the quest for Morrowind to cure your vampirism. Although, it was noted in Morrowind that Molag Bal was seen by the Dunmer as the one who was trying to ruin their racial purity.
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  77. He wanted to know about the vampires of eastern Skyrim. I told him about the most powerful tribe, the Volkihar, paranoid and cruel, whose very breath could freeze their victims' blood in the veins. I explained to him how they lived beneath the ice of remote and haunted lakes, never venturing into the world of men except to feed. "Your advice helped me very much," he said. "But you should know that the Volkihar have an additional ability you didn't mention. They can reach through the ice of their lakes without breaking it. It was quite a nasty surprise, being grabbed from below without any warning." http://www.uesp.net/wiki/Oblivion:Immortal_Blood
  78.  
  79. TES: Shadowkey and PGE3 city of Dragonstar was split in two halves between Hammerfell and Skyrim.
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  82. Oblivion
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  85. No Dragons in Cyrodiil, despite "Rust Dragons" being mentioned in the Nibenay.
  86.  
  87. lack of jungle near the imperial city. Instead, the area looks more like Europe.
  88.  
  89. Morihaus was depicted as a human in the Arena District statue, while being said to be a winged bull in the rest of sources
  90.  
  91. the Imperial City was said be to composed of "several small islands", with the city sprawling through them, opposed to the single big island as Oblivion showed us;
  92.  
  93. it was said that the nibenay valley had several rivers connecting it to inland ports in both Skyrim and Elsweyr, which, if it can be said to exist in the game, is only half there
  94.  
  95. Nibenay Valley should be one of the richest parts of Cyrodiil, instead, they're depicted as pretty rundown in Oblivion
  96.  
  97. the Cult of Emperor Zero, as well as all the other cults mentioned as existing in Cyrodiil and the Imperial City are gone
  98.  
  99. Nibenay and Colovian Imperials were supposed to have their own unique culture, and Colovia even had it's own kingdom. These were omitted from OBLIVION
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  101. The Imperial City in Oblivion had no spires, and it had no golden color like was described. There were no massive jeweled bridges holding entire neighborhoods. The Imperial Palace was not a "crown of sunrays" and Green Emperor Way was merely one garden path in the massive Emperor's Gardens, which was supposed to contain heads of former Emperors sculpted out of hedging and shrubbery, and could magically talk.
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  104. Morrowind
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  106. Bretons were originally descended from the "Druids of Galen" as mentioned in The Arena, which have never been mentioned again
  107.  
  108. In Arena Sithis was described as the "god of death", now he is the god of chaos.
  109.  
  110. The city of Ebonheart is teleported between Arena and Morrowind, creation of the "Old Ebonheart" for explaining that change.
  111.  
  112. In Arena, Ald-Ruhn was in the south-east corner of Vvardenfell. In Morrowind, it's located to the east of Red Mountain.
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  115. Daggerfall
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  117. In Arena each month of the calendar was 30 days long, not anymore.
  118.  
  119. A lot of heroes and deities changed, for example Kynareth was originally an heroine buried in Skyrim. Or most of the temple orders from Arena don't exist anymore.
  120.  
  121. Arena mentions stuffs like the the creature/race "Orcoblin", or the guild "Wharf Rats" that doesn't exist anymore.
  122.  
  123. In Arena the DB is a cult dedicated to Sithis, in Daggerfall a cult dedicated to Mephala.
  124.  
  125. In Arena, the Dark Brotherhood is dedicated to Sithis. In Daggerfall, they worship Mephala.
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