Darth Patrykus: nice groups
Darth Patrykus: gg
[IVe_7e] Erik le Rouge: Yes, you have germany
[IVe_7e] Erik le Rouge: But well, we thought bout that
[IVe_7e] Erik le Rouge: And you have to face them anyway
[IVe_7e] Erik le Rouge: Semi of finals
[IVe_7e] Erik le Rouge: tSo better make it now
Darth Patrykus: If you'd tell me at the start that you're going to include them in our group or of you told me that it will be random etc. (which I highly doubt about this "random") instead of lying to me that we will not have them in the group, you would not lose anything in my eyes
[IVe_7e] Erik le Rouge: No it wasn't random
[IVe_7e] Erik le Rouge: And come on, it's just a match, that you would have had to do anyway.
[IVe_7e] Erik le Rouge: There will be referees to give warnings and/or penisments if too much delaying
[IVe_7e] Erik le Rouge: We couldn't do fair groups without your two teams in the same one
Darth Patrykus: putting 3 (maybe 4 - depends of the patience of others) best teams in one group is not fair :)
[IVe_7e] Erik le Rouge: Yes it is.
Darth Patrykus: without randomizing and shit
[IVe_7e] Erik le Rouge: That was NO (really none) team is granted a spot in semi.
[IVe_7e] Erik le Rouge: That way*
Darth Patrykus: at least me, Lubu, Jan and probably few other guys seem to disagree but do whatever you want, this tournament is yours after all
Darth Patrykus: that's all I wanted to say
[IVe_7e] Erik le Rouge: (in a tourny, sorry for long answers)
[IVe_7e] Erik le Rouge: Just, do understand that, we wanted to make it as fair as possible for everyone. We could have put Poland with Turkey Italy Benelux and Scandinavia, but that would have just been a lot of easy scores and an easy ticket to the semi. With the groups we have here we do NOT know who will be qualified in group A nor who will be qualified in group B. Every team has equal chances to get in, and that's the spirit of the tournament.
[IVe_7e] Erik le Rouge: Then again, if you hate germans so much, just play them now, we'll referee well so there will not be useless delaying, and you'll get rid of them.
Darth Patrykus: I hate their tactic
Darth Patrykus: and as we both know, the winners of the 2nd group won't go far
[IVe_7e] Erik le Rouge: Yes, but they will go to it at least.
Darth Patrykus: why don't you give this chace to your France then?
[IVe_7e] Erik le Rouge: We didn't want to sacrifice any team by putting them in an arena with France UK Poland
[IVe_7e] Erik le Rouge: To my France ?
[IVe_7e] Erik le Rouge: I don't get it
Darth Patrykus: your France - your French
[IVe_7e] Erik le Rouge: Still don't get it
[IVe_7e] Erik le Rouge: I'm not even in the french team
Darth Patrykus: yes
[IVe_7e] Erik le Rouge: Have to fght in the tourny, brb
[IVe_7e] Erik le Rouge: don't write please, just a few mins
Darth Patrykus: ...
[IVe_7e] Erik le Rouge is now Online.
[IVe_7e] Erik le Rouge: Okay I'm done
Darth Patrykus: gut
[IVe_7e] Erik le Rouge: So if you have anymore things to say to me
Darth Patrykus: well
Darth Patrykus: we can start by checking the fse :)
Darth Patrykus: nc thread
Darth Patrykus: there are some important opinions
Darth Patrykus: brb 5 min
[IVe_7e] Erik le Rouge: I replied on FSE
Darth Patrykus: this system is not good - by giving a privileges to one group, you take it away from others
Darth Patrykus: I see no justice in it
[IVe_7e] Erik le Rouge: None has privilege, that's the whole point.
[IVe_7e] Erik le Rouge: Now just tell me:
[IVe_7e] Erik le Rouge: You are a player from Scandinavia
[IVe_7e] Erik le Rouge: Or Italy, or Turkey
[IVe_7e] Erik le Rouge: We put you in a group with France UK and Gemrnay
[IVe_7e] Erik le Rouge: You think this is fair ?
[IVe_7e] Erik le Rouge: This is not
[IVe_7e] Erik le Rouge: We put everyone with teams of their levels
Darth Patrykus: I'd train hard and accept my fate as a MINOR NATION of the tournament
[IVe_7e] Erik le Rouge: Now if you hate the germans so much, as I told you, this tie we'll have referees, that will NOT happen
[IVe_7e] Erik le Rouge: This time*
[IVe_7e] Erik le Rouge: So don't worry about the 5 hours match, there won't be any
Darth Patrykus: and as I've statet above, I don't hate germans but their tactics
[IVe_7e] Erik le Rouge: Just give this thing a chance instead of calling to conspiration or I don't know what
[IVe_7e] Erik le Rouge: I don't give two fucks about France or any other nation
Darth Patrykus: and the Germans are no longer my concern
Darth Patrykus: but the tournament as a whole
[IVe_7e] Erik le Rouge: I wouldn't wear that sig if I wanted them to be eliminated before the semi, it's my country too you know
[IVe_7e] Erik le Rouge: And the whole tournament will go just fine
[IVe_7e] Erik le Rouge: You say you would accept your role as a MINOR faction, not everyone would do.
[IVe_7e] Erik le Rouge: People want to play too, it's a tournament, not a "kicking the bad countries out" game
Darth Patrykus: that's their problem
[IVe_7e] Erik le Rouge: No it's not
[IVe_7e] Erik le Rouge: Wanting to play a competition is a problem to noone
[IVe_7e] Erik le Rouge: Being afraid of loosing before the semi, because you have good teams to face, however, sounds like a problem to me.
Darth Patrykus: this competition has no chance of reaching even 3rd place
Darth Patrykus: it's artifical
[IVe_7e] Erik le Rouge: Reaching semi would be a great accomplishment to these people
[IVe_7e] Erik le Rouge: And, look
[IVe_7e] Erik le Rouge: We can't say who will go through in group B
Darth Patrykus: false accomplishment
[IVe_7e] Erik le Rouge: Nor in group A
[IVe_7e] Erik le Rouge: Is it not entertaining
[IVe_7e] Erik le Rouge: More than last year
[IVe_7e] Erik le Rouge: Last year people just knew who would pass anyway
[IVe_7e] Erik le Rouge: It was quite obvious
[IVe_7e] Erik le Rouge: Absolutely NO suspence until final
[IVe_7e] Erik le Rouge: I cann that bullshit
[IVe_7e] Erik le Rouge: call*
[IVe_7e] Erik le Rouge: This time I think it is better, please leave the tournament its chance, and do your best for your country as I know you will.
Darth Patrykus: you just need to accept the fact that there are better and worse teams
[IVe_7e] Erik le Rouge: And THIS will be shown during the matches :)
[IVe_7e] Erik le Rouge: Not before.
Darth Patrykus: but you do it before
Darth Patrykus: by separating them from the best
[IVe_7e] Erik le Rouge: Yes, to let them a chance to prove they're the best among the nations they can beat
[IVe_7e] Erik le Rouge: Let's not lie to each other, patrykus
[IVe_7e] Erik le Rouge: Italy can't beat Poland
[IVe_7e] Erik le Rouge: That's a match there is no need to play
[IVe_7e] Erik le Rouge: But last year we did
[IVe_7e] Erik le Rouge: 8-2 or something, yaya
Darth Patrykus: I'm not the one who's lying
[IVe_7e] Erik le Rouge: Wasn't entertaining at all
[IVe_7e] Erik le Rouge: Neither am I.
[IVe_7e] Erik le Rouge: Listen, I'm pretty done with it, I gave all my arguments and so did you. Now if you are not happy with that i'm sorry, we can't please everyone, we just chose the most numerous over the strongest teams. So play the tournament for Poland, don't if you dislike it, I'm enforcing no one.
[IVe_7e] Erik le Rouge: This is a public tournament.
Darth Patrykus: This is yours tournament
Darth Patrykus: but don't worry, I'll be trying hard to put my nation on top again
[IVe_7e] Erik le Rouge: Patrykus, this is a tournament for the community. It includes the smaller teams too.
[IVe_7e] Erik le Rouge: Now if you want Poland to face Spain, Benelux, Turkey and Scandinavia, fine, but I don't think you would be as proud to beat them as you would be to beat France UK or Germany.
Darth Patrykus: we don't have to do it
Darth Patrykus: give this chance to Germany or France
[IVe_7e] Erik le Rouge: I did