Double Fine Game Club: Monkey Island 2 (plus dev chat)

(06:55:32 AM) GrumpyGamer [GrumpyGame@hide-2D8716B5.hsd1.ca.comcast.net] entered the room.
(06:55:37 AM) Syd: Hey GrumpyGamer!
(06:55:43 AM) Zonr_0: And there's the man of the hour.
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(06:55:47 AM) melonface: is the stream offline?
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(06:55:49 AM) Scummbuddy: Welcome! Thanks for joining us
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(06:55:51 AM) GrumpyGamer: Hello Mighty Pirates!
(06:55:59 AM) Cheeseness: Hi Ron!
(06:56:00 AM) Zonr_0: Yarr!
(06:56:01 AM) Syd: I'll be starting the stream in about 3 minutes
(06:56:04 AM) steven: avast!
(06:56:06 AM) Samari: yar! avast and whatnot
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(06:56:13 AM) happygamer: Mr Gilbert?
(06:56:13 AM) carlosk: hi Ron
(06:56:17 AM) melonface: yarrr
(06:56:26 AM) Jojo: Awesome Ron is here
(06:56:27 AM) Nz17: It's time to get it Ron!
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(06:56:38 AM) TimeGentleman: Hello everyone! Hi Ron!
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(06:56:43 AM) grauerTeddy: btw the Caev was awsome
(06:56:43 AM) Cheeseness: Hiya TimeGentleman!
(06:56:44 AM) Syd: To reiterate, I'm playing a version made with this tool http://gratissaugen.de/ultimatetalkies/monkey2.html
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(06:56:51 AM) happygamer: Gilbert? Is that a French name?
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(06:57:01 AM) TetsuyO: GrumpyGamer: yarrr to you!
(06:57:03 AM) Syd: So it's sort of a hybrid between the original and the special edition. it'll run in ScummVM and have emulated MT-32 audio, but it will also have voice acting.
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(06:57:09 AM) GrumpyGamer: Actually, Ron couldn't make it, I'm just a Python bot he wrote.
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(06:57:21 AM) melonface: shill-ber
(06:57:22 AM) happygamer: it is him indeed
(06:57:22 AM) johnny32: Hi bot!
(06:57:22 AM) DayvHack: Hi Python bot
(06:57:22 AM) TimeGentleman: Hey Cheeseness!
(06:57:24 AM) Scummbuddy: Well, he still cares then
(06:57:25 AM) Fireflower: Hey
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(06:57:26 AM) thorw4ld: lol ron
(06:57:26 AM) Nz17: @GrumpyGamer, How has reception of The Cave been post-launch?
(06:57:30 AM) Zaarin: hello!
(06:57:32 AM) thorw4ld: good one :D
(06:57:36 AM) Zonr_0: !Monkeyislandjoke
(06:57:37 AM) thorw4ld: hi roooon
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(06:57:39 AM) Syd: Also, hi TimeGentleman! It's nice to see you joining us again! :)
(06:57:41 AM) happygamer: no question to mr. gilbert allowed
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(06:58:05 AM) Jojo: Can't wait for Ron's reaction on the pants dropping grave digging
(06:58:05 AM) Samari: @GrumpyGamer, did he program you with a tutorial and hint system?
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(06:58:12 AM) Syd: Holy crap, look at all these people.
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(06:58:24 AM) grauerTeddy: 30 seconds....!
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(06:58:28 AM) SirLemonhead: It's going to be impossible to keep up with all the typing :)
(06:58:29 AM) Scummbuddy: @Jojo *Giggling ensues*
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(06:58:35 AM) Cheeseness: Syd: Told you we'd get a good turnout, right? I knew we didn't have to worry.
(06:58:42 AM) Syd: :D
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(06:58:43 AM) Cheeseness: >_>
(06:58:45 AM) grauerTeddy: 10
(06:58:47 AM) Zonr_0: Might have to moderate the channel at this rate, heh.
(06:58:55 AM) Nz17: It could be no problem if most people lurk.
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(06:58:56 AM) homerj: Cheeseness
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(06:58:57 AM) Cheeseness: We'll see how things go
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(06:58:59 AM) Cheeseness: Hey homerj
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(06:59:07 AM) happygamer: is it on?
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(06:59:09 AM) Syd: Yeah, it's looking a little chaotic.
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(06:59:12 AM) japro: at least now its not exactly matrix level scrolling...
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(06:59:14 AM) Syd: Stream starting in just a moment!
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(06:59:33 AM) SirLemonhead: I'd appreciate being able to turn off quit and join messages.. is that possible?
(06:59:34 AM) Nz17: @Everyone who isn't GrumpyGamer, How has reception of The Cave been post-launch?
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(06:59:39 AM) Syd: Yes, there will be voice acting, but there's also MT-32 audio. Best of both worlds, in my humble opinion.
(06:59:41 AM) Samari: it's mostly the joins and leaves that are causing scrolling
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(06:59:50 AM) melonface: monsieur shill-ber 'is here
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(06:59:57 AM) SirLemonhead: come back Petter :(
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(07:00:05 AM) Zonr_0: Depending on your IRC client you can disable them.
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(07:00:14 AM) A_Bag_of_Cake: ahoy, fellow humans!
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(07:00:22 AM) melonface: oooh? an aussie!!
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(07:00:25 AM) KevinBladeLogan: Woo!
(07:00:25 AM) happygamer: who is talking?
(07:00:26 AM) SirLemonhead: speedrun it!
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(07:00:30 AM) grauerTeddy: Hussa!
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(07:00:32 AM) johnny32: woooo!
(07:00:32 AM) happygamer: I want it all!!
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(07:00:50 AM) TimeGentleman: Love the flashback structure to this game
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(07:00:53 AM) SirLemonhead: wow thats NOT the voice i'd imagine her with..
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(07:01:04 AM) Zonr_0: Yay in medias Res!
(07:01:07 AM) GrumpyGamer: It was something I always wanted to do.
(07:01:14 AM) johnny32: the look of the classic version with the voices of the modern
(07:01:15 AM) grauerTeddy: R.I.P. Lucasart Games
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(07:01:16 AM) happygamer: how come the rope breaks exactly when he finishes the story?
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(07:01:17 AM) johnny32: the best of both :D
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(07:01:31 AM) OzzieMonkey: This version of the theme has got to be my favourite
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(07:01:34 AM) Cheeseness: For anybody who can't see the ideo, refresh the stream page
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(07:01:37 AM) johnny32: yes!
(07:01:38 AM) Cheeseness: video^
(07:01:38 AM) johnny32: agree!
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(07:01:40 AM) happygamer: brings up emotions
(07:01:41 AM) NiggloNash: ronald gilbert
(07:01:44 AM) GrumpyGamer: TURN THE MUSIC UP
(07:01:46 AM) GameClubFan_286912 is now known as Tonjevic
(07:01:46 AM) jojo_: Ron Gilbert designer this game!
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(07:01:51 AM) johnny32: this music is one of the best of the series!
(07:01:52 AM) OneHundredAndThirtySevenButts: Wheres the grump?
(07:01:52 AM) Tonjevic: Well this could be interesting
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(07:01:57 AM) Tonjevic: Hiya Cheeseness
(07:01:58 AM) nacholg: This is going to be awesome!
(07:01:59 AM) Cheeseness: Hey Tonjevic
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(07:02:11 AM) johnny32: thanks michael z. land!
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(07:02:12 AM) happygamer: michael land is a genius
(07:02:13 AM) Syd: After the intro, I'll try to turn the music up!
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(07:02:18 AM) NiggloNash: I'm a big fan of Dan Dilbert
(07:02:18 AM) Cheeseness: They removed the intro credits from the special edition, didn't they?
(07:02:19 AM) Syd: I'll have to go into the ScummVM settings
(07:02:19 AM) Tonjevic: interesting because MI2 was easily the bizarrest MI
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(07:02:24 AM) melonface: what has michael land done recently?
(07:02:26 AM) happygamer: no syd its ok
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(07:02:29 AM) Kalavinka: who's voice acting?
(07:02:30 AM) TetsuyO: Oh my God,I'm crying rainbows!!! I ♥ MonkeyIsland :D
(07:02:34 AM) Cheeseness: :D
(07:02:39 AM) Thriftweed: If this is the original, why does it have voice acting? :S
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(07:02:48 AM) OzzieMonkey: It really is a shame there wasn't an SE version of this intro, no idea why it was cut
(07:02:50 AM) GrumpyGamer: "Crying Rainbows"
(07:02:50 AM) Syd: It's a hybrid version, made with this tool http://gratissaugen.de/ultimatetalkies/monkey2.html
(07:02:51 AM) Zonr_0: It's the ultimate talkie version patch
(07:02:54 AM) johnny32: it'd be nice if we could hear ron voice commenting the game while he plays
(07:02:55 AM) OneHundredAndThirtySevenButts: Thats actually Ron
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(07:02:59 AM) Sinsinstudio: yay yay yay yay
(07:02:59 AM) OneHundredAndThirtySevenButts: He just talking
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(07:03:04 AM) Gins1: sup, first gameclub i'm joining :)
(07:03:05 AM) Schmuhf: oh Michael Z Land
(07:03:07 AM) Zonr_0: Syd's the one playing Johnny :P
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(07:03:12 AM) Kalavinka: thanks
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(07:03:15 AM) johnny32: ah ok!
(07:03:17 AM) GrumpyGamer: I'm typing… not playing.
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(07:03:21 AM) melonface: yes, i want ron's commentary
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(07:03:23 AM) johnny32: good ;)
(07:03:24 AM) Cheeseness: Syd's providing this week's stream
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(07:03:27 AM) TimeGentleman: And then from one story to another!
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(07:03:31 AM) Cheeseness: Ron will be answering questions here in IRC
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(07:03:34 AM) Lattsam: Yo
(07:03:35 AM) GameClubFan_422207: Hey, was this the voice of the cave of The Cave?
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(07:03:41 AM) Zonr_0: I love this opening.
(07:03:41 AM) Rojasono: Oh Guybrush, you piece of nonsensical wannabe lol
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(07:03:46 AM) Fireflower: Never heard the voices before :)
(07:03:49 AM) Syd: If you really, really want the music turned up, I'll try to do it. Otherwise, I'll keep playing.
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(07:03:52 AM) Kalavinka: A BEARD?
(07:03:53 AM) melonface: yeah, was it the cave's voice?
(07:03:53 AM) Cheeseness: A beard?!?
(07:03:57 AM) steven: turn the music up
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(07:04:00 AM) johnny32: BIG WHOOP
(07:04:01 AM) Zaarin: yeah, louder music would be nice
(07:04:02 AM) OzzieMonkey: The idea of a voiced narrator is still odd to me, even if it was Murray's voice
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(07:04:08 AM) Rojasono: Small meep!
(07:04:13 AM) Syd: I'll see what I can do after this intro ends
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(07:04:21 AM) salty_horse: I made this a few years back: https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/1218522/scabb.ogg
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(07:04:22 AM) KevinBladeLogan: I love the way their mouths kept moving after "big whoop"
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(07:04:25 AM) melonface: there's only crabs on scabb island
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(07:04:26 AM) TimeGentleman: grumpygamer how do you think the dialogue fits with voice-acting?
(07:04:27 AM) steven: iMUSE was one of the big deals with this iirc
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(07:04:30 AM) GrumpyGamer: Agree about the narrator voice.
(07:04:31 AM) Lattsam: No treasure on Scabb Island?  shyeah right
(07:04:33 AM) johnny32: I know almost all the dialogs of this game...
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(07:04:35 AM) TimeGentleman: Think it does better here than MI1
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(07:04:40 AM) GrumpyGamer: HA
(07:04:42 AM) johnny32: (well, I know them in spanish)
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(07:04:58 AM) happygamer: @grumpygamer does the weenie theme has a deeper meaning?
(07:04:58 AM) Zonr_0: now the decisions.
(07:04:58 AM) Lattsam: Never pay 50 bucks for a computer game!  ...Unless it's a good one like this is
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(07:05:06 AM) johnny32: largo
(07:05:06 AM) johnny32: largo
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(07:05:08 AM) Cheeseness: So, GrumpyGamer. This seems like a good enough time to ask how you deal with the constant barrage of incessant fans who want to talk to you about Monkey Island
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(07:05:09 AM) johnny32: largo!
(07:05:11 AM) SirLemonhead: I love all the money you start with
(07:05:14 AM) GrumpyGamer: Weenies always have deeper meaning.
(07:05:14 AM) Tonjevic: look at all them riches!
(07:05:17 AM) Rojasono: The only time Guybrush is actually rich lol
(07:05:20 AM) salty-horse: wherever you go, on sea or on land
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(07:05:25 AM) johnny32: hahah
(07:05:26 AM) Kalavinka: just in time for Largo's theme :)
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(07:05:38 AM) happygamer: grumpygamer what is so deep about weenies?
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(07:05:42 AM) Lattsam: Bag of Spilling
(07:05:42 AM) foffing: has the video started yet?
(07:05:44 AM) johnny32: there's no police in scabb
(07:05:46 AM) beatlefreak9: the game devs giveth, and they taketh away...
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(07:05:49 AM) johnny32: *on
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(07:05:52 AM) Syd: Refresh if you don't see the stream
(07:05:52 AM) Cheeseness: foffing: Yes, it has. Refresh the page if you can't see it
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(07:06:02 AM) Tea: What soundfont is that? That MIDI is sounding pretty damn good
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(07:06:04 AM) Sinsinstudio: we dont need two sets of subs dudes
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(07:06:07 AM) Syd: MT-32
(07:06:12 AM) Syd: (emulated MT-32)
(07:06:12 AM) Tea: oh jeez
(07:06:12 AM) jojo_: Largo sounds off
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(07:06:16 AM) Tea: it would be wouldn't it
(07:06:17 AM) jojo_: Or drunk
(07:06:17 AM) Tonjevic: nice how Guybrush walks around with his entire fortune on his pockets, on a pirate island
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(07:06:24 AM) OzzieMonkey: Largo's awesome
(07:06:24 AM) johnny32: the music of this awesome
(07:06:26 AM) GrumpyGamer: He pronounced it wrong
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(07:06:33 AM) melonface: how can i disable the status messages in irc?
(07:06:35 AM) johnny32: but the best theme is the LeChuck's song that appears in part 3
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(07:06:41 AM) Lattsam: I like Largo's voice... he's voiced by James Arnold Taylor, the official voice of Tidus, and the official voice of Wooldoor Sockbat!  WHEEEE!
(07:06:41 AM) johnny32: when Guybrush actually meets LeChuck
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(07:06:43 AM) GrumpyGamer: I grew up in a town called La Grande.
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(07:06:44 AM) SirLemonhead: did anyone ever think guybrush seemed shorter and fatter in this compared to the first game?
(07:06:46 AM) Fireflower: no banks on this island :)
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(07:06:54 AM) Syd: I'm using aspect ratio correction
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(07:06:58 AM) Zonr_0: I really like Guybrush's sprite in 2.
(07:06:58 AM) johnny32: and bearder
(07:07:03 AM) foffing: still nothing. just the chat
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(07:07:04 AM) Kalavinka: I miss guybrush's facial hair
(07:07:04 AM) Gins1: me too
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(07:07:06 AM) Lattsam: SirLemonhead A year can do that to ya
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(07:07:06 AM) happygamer: it's the same shovel as in the beginning of the cave
(07:07:07 AM) Gins1: i think it's just the coat
(07:07:08 AM) BlaneTrain: agreed
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(07:07:15 AM) Zonr_0: look for the stream on twitch
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(07:07:19 AM) OzzieMonkey: all those "nice" variations...
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(07:07:32 AM) Lattsam: International House of Mojo
(07:07:34 AM) Cheeseness: I love this piece of music
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(07:07:38 AM) Schmuhf: god, how I love MI2....
(07:07:38 AM) melonface: grumpygamer: what's it like to replay games you've made?
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(07:07:39 AM) Tea: Someone needs to make a PCI MT-32
(07:07:39 AM) Rojasono: IHoM!
(07:07:42 AM) Lattsam: One of the best adventure game news sites ever
(07:07:43 AM) happygamer: is it the shovel from the cave's beginning?
(07:07:44 AM) Tea: Emulation doesn't quite cut it
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(07:07:50 AM) Sinsinstudio: do you feel proud Ron ?
(07:07:50 AM) ZombieAtPlay: DT iMUSE <3
(07:07:54 AM) Zaarin: I like how it adds the tracks as you paddle into the swamp
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(07:07:56 AM) ZombieAtPlay: *dat
(07:07:58 AM) GrumpyGamer: La Grande: https://maps.google.com/maps?q=La+Grande,+Union,+Oregon+97850&hl=en&sll=37.269174,-119.306607&sspn=22.148303,16.54541&geocode=FSGZswId2R_2-A&hnear=La+Grande,+Union,+Oregon&t=m&z=13
(07:07:58 AM) johnny32: 22 years...
(07:07:58 AM) Syd: I'm doing the best I can with what I have. :P
(07:08:04 AM) Tea: I mean it sounds better than plain ass GM but
(07:08:04 AM) Tea: Man
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(07:08:07 AM) SirLemonhead: that string in the background..
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(07:08:09 AM) johnny32: and still there hasn't been a single game better than this one
(07:08:10 AM) SirLemonhead: jesus that was hard to find
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(07:08:17 AM) Cheeseness: Zaarin: Yeah, iMuse made a bunch of super awesome stuff possible
(07:08:19 AM) Lattsam: You can never have enough yoyo string
(07:08:20 AM) JonnyG: I have MI1 music on my iPhone and I should highly consider putting music from 2 on there as well
(07:08:21 AM) Zonr_0: If you're having trouble getting the stream to work on the page hub
(07:08:25 AM) Zonr_0: try this link: http://www.twitch.tv/dfgameclub
(07:08:26 AM) johnny32: I remembered the 1st time playing this
(07:08:27 AM) TimeGentleman: This game still looks gorgeous
(07:08:29 AM) happygamer: grumpygamer is the voodoo lady good or evil?
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(07:08:34 AM) johnny32: I was stuck because I couldnt find ash-2-life
(07:08:34 AM) BlaneTrain: mmmm skink toes
(07:08:36 AM) GameClubFan_130987: Was the Guybrush look based on Cary Elwes from Princess Bride? Or Errol Flynn even?
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(07:08:39 AM) melonface: Is Guybrush a bit gay?
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(07:08:45 AM) Sinsinstudio: NO
(07:08:48 AM) SirLemonhead: the voice acting makes him seem it :P
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(07:08:53 AM) Fireflower: one of the best adventure games ever made :)
(07:08:54 AM) foffing: got it to work!
(07:08:55 AM) Rojasono: Oh wow, all this voodoo mumbo jumbo is making me hungry >.>"
(07:08:55 AM) johnny32: can u pick ash-2-life in this part of the game?
(07:08:57 AM) Lattsam: melonface why... is that bad?
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(07:09:01 AM) johnny32: or do u have to wait until part 2?
(07:09:03 AM) Pinchpenny: ....a bit gay as supposed to full gay?
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(07:09:08 AM) happygamer: is the voodoo lady good or bad
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(07:09:15 AM) happygamer: and why does she know everything?
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(07:09:19 AM) Fireflower: those were gay times
(07:09:26 AM) melonface: lattsam no, just asking about his preferences
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(07:09:27 AM) johnny32: I believe the voodoo lady is actually @grumpygamer
(07:09:29 AM) Lattsam: happygamer Because she's the Voodoo Lady.  Duh.
(07:09:32 AM) OzzieMonkey: I once read an article suggesting Guybrush was bi, I have no clue where they got that idea :p
(07:09:33 AM) steven: https://secure.jtvnw.net/widgets/live_facebook_embed_player.swf?channel=dfgameclub
(07:09:34 AM) Zonr_0: because she's the voodoo lady.
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(07:09:42 AM) gsm: happygamer, is guybrush good or bad?
(07:09:44 AM) johnny32: they both know everything about the MI universe
(07:09:46 AM) OneHundredAndThirtySevenButts: What a cop out
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(07:09:55 AM) Tea: "Voodoo lady" is literally the reason for everything Voodoo lady related
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(07:09:57 AM) OzzieMonkey: The voodoo lady is really an orange, just like guybrush is a banana
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(07:10:18 AM) Kalavinka: When I was a kid I was stuck on Largo's voodoo doll, so I wrote a letter to Santa asking for a hint for Christmas : (
(07:10:20 AM) Zonr_0: This game is so long
(07:10:21 AM) happygamer: i think the secret is that the voodoo lady is lechuck
(07:10:23 AM) Lattsam: OzzieMonkey I thought she was a papaya
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(07:10:29 AM) Lattsam: OzzieMonkey jk
(07:10:29 AM) BlaneTrain: Voodoo Lady, Shakin' that stick and drivin' me crazy
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(07:10:30 AM) luisfcorreia: basic voodoo groups, a classic!
(07:10:38 AM) melonface: grumpygamer would you make monkey island 3 in 3d? what engine?
(07:10:50 AM) happygamer: melonface read rons blog!!
(07:10:51 AM) SirLemonhead: whats on the scroll above guybrush's head?
(07:10:53 AM) Lattsam: grumpygamer Ooh!  How about AGS for the lulz?
(07:10:54 AM) SirLemonhead: oh its gone
(07:10:56 AM) Cheeseness: I imagine that there's a basic voodoo group pyramid
(07:11:04 AM) Gins1: i wonder how much research went into voodoo before making these games
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(07:11:07 AM) Kalavinka: I think he said on his blog that he'd do it in retro pixel art melonface
(07:11:11 AM) Zonr_0: Melonface: http://grumpygamer.com/5777333
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(07:11:12 AM) GrumpyGamer: http://grumpygamer.com/5777333
(07:11:14 AM) Tea: Gins1: On Stranger Tides.
(07:11:16 AM) Cheeseness: :D
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(07:11:18 AM) japro: MI2 at least doesn't have that evil tree stump joke that would ask for disk 368 or so... that nearly broke us when we were playing it for the first time
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(07:11:36 AM) Rojasono: Ron is secretly a practitioner of the dark arts! Woooo~~~ Lol
(07:11:37 AM) Kalavinka: thank god I read that entry before coming here XD
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(07:11:41 AM) Gins1: all my knowledge about voodoo comes from the monkey island games
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(07:11:47 AM) Lattsam: Rojasono who isn't?
(07:11:49 AM) melonface: So let's get it out of the way: What's the secret of Monkey Island?
(07:11:51 AM) TimeGentleman: grumpygamer why make the player click along to get through the swamp? sense of hidden lair?
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(07:11:53 AM) Zonr_0: I think Stan is my favorite Monkey Island character.
(07:12:03 AM) GrumpyGamer: It was a sign of the times.
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(07:12:15 AM) Fireflower: Gabriel Knight also got some voodoo in it :)
(07:12:19 AM) happygamer: grumpygamer was the voodoo lady part of the original story or did you think of her later in game development
(07:12:20 AM) salty-horse: GrumpyGamer, are all the "Nice X" placeholders there due to time? did you plan on having written description for every object?
(07:12:21 AM) SirLemonhead: his jacket in the first game is one of my favourite graphical things ever
(07:12:21 AM) johnny32: @grumpygamer why Guybrush can't tie the rope with the stick with his hands (he has to put the stick on the box before), but he can tie the other rope to the lever at the big X in part 4?
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(07:12:24 AM) OneHundredAndThirtySevenButts: Not enough games have readable tombstones
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(07:12:27 AM) melonface: I think the secret of monkey island is that guybrush is gay
(07:12:27 AM) SirLemonhead: with the static patter
(07:12:30 AM) SirLemonhead: n
(07:12:47 AM) Lattsam: King's Quest IV has some great tombstone readin'
(07:12:55 AM) GrumpyGamer: They were just filler.  So much to write.
(07:12:58 AM) Schmuhf: hahaha
(07:13:00 AM) jojo_: Oh boy! Here it comea
(07:13:03 AM) jojo_: Comes
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(07:13:09 AM) happygamer: grumpygamer why are fascinated with cemetaries?
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(07:13:09 AM) OzzieMonkey: This is creepy feelin...
(07:13:10 AM) GameClubFan_499050: GG, was The Princess Bride an inspiration for the character of Guybrush?
(07:13:13 AM) Lattsam: King's Quest VII has some too
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(07:13:20 AM) Eric: I saw there's a game on kickstarter that is nothing but reading tombstones
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(07:13:26 AM) OneHundredAndThirtySevenButts: Grumpy would these be written in a day?
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(07:13:28 AM) ZombieAtPlay: Ron Gilbert AND Ben Ward in the same chatroom? All my Adventure game christmases have come at once!
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(07:13:30 AM) Darth-Phenom: GrumpyGamer, I recently read your excellent essay you wrote back in 1989 about the suspension of disbelief
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(07:13:38 AM) Gins1: o ben ward is in here?
(07:13:44 AM) GrumpyGamer: Princess Bride was not a direct inspiration.
(07:13:47 AM) jojo_: Oh boy!
(07:13:48 AM) Darth-Phenom: I was amazed at how far ahead of your time you were
(07:13:50 AM) SirLemonhead: is that the mt-32 doing the thunder? wow
(07:13:50 AM) Cheeseness: My pants fall down like this every time I dig something up. It's really frustrating.
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(07:13:55 AM) melonface: imagine if the other pirates found out elaine was just smoke and mirror? they would kill guybrush like they do it in jamaica
(07:13:56 AM) Scummbuddy: @GrumpyGamer Thanks for your post on "On Stranger Tides". I then got the book. Thoroughly enjoyed it.
(07:13:58 AM) Sinsinstudio: Ron... was this a fun scene to produce ??
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(07:14:00 AM) Kalavinka: what's up with Largo's voice
(07:14:05 AM) Lattsam: Only in adventure games can you get away with robbing graves without repercussions
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(07:14:08 AM) salty-horse: Scummbuddy, me too! :D
(07:14:09 AM) happygamer: why is this scene so funny?
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(07:14:14 AM) OzzieMonkey: How did Tim not find the pants falling funny? It just..is
(07:14:16 AM) johnny32: wow
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(07:14:25 AM) GrumpyGamer: "Only in adventure games can you get away with robbing graves without repercussions" <— NOT TRUE!
(07:14:26 AM) Gins1: @lattsam: almost no repercussions. remember the poster later in the game
(07:14:26 AM) johnny32: I didn't know Peninsula in English is also Peninsula :D
(07:14:27 AM) SirLemonhead: natty dreads :)
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(07:14:28 AM) TimeGentleman: Tim didn't get the bathos
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(07:14:35 AM) Gins1: and you get arrested for it
(07:14:39 AM) Gins1: among other things
(07:14:39 AM) ZombieAtPlay: @grumpygamer Did you have any say in the casting of voices for the remakes?
(07:14:39 AM) Tea: I still don't quite understand what's happening with Dread
(07:14:39 AM) jojo_: Ron what were you thinking
(07:14:41 AM) happygamer: what kind of underwear does guybrush wear
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(07:14:43 AM) Lattsam: GrumpyGamer yeah, but still, it's funny
(07:14:43 AM) Tea: The perspective is so odd
(07:14:44 AM) OneHundredAndThirtySevenButts: Tim had a bad experience with pants
(07:14:45 AM) Cheeseness: Lattsam: What about Diablo? You can totally loot coffins and tombs without any consequences most of the time
(07:14:46 AM) Permafry_42: @GrumpyGamer, what was the main inspiration for the Monkey Island series?
(07:14:49 AM) Syd: Quick warning, this is technically a fanmade version of the game. If I run into any bugs, I apologize!
(07:14:53 AM) OzzieMonkey: He wears 2 apparently :p
(07:14:53 AM) gsm: How many people lost their pants just now?
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(07:14:56 AM) Tea: Is Dredd a weird giant voodoo doll? Is he just close to the camera?
(07:14:57 AM) GrumpyGamer: No, I didn't have any say in the voice casting.  I was long gone.
(07:14:59 AM) happygamer: rasta man
(07:15:03 AM) Tea: It even looks like he's missing an arm
(07:15:04 AM) OzzieMonkey: Cause later on with the dress
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(07:15:08 AM) Cheeseness: Yay, it's Hermes!
(07:15:08 AM) Lattsam: It be Hermes, mon!
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(07:15:13 AM) Stanismyhero: lol
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(07:15:14 AM) SirLemonhead: Yeah i always thoguht he looked strange
(07:15:17 AM) happygamer: tanks mon
(07:15:18 AM) johnny32: Hermes :D
(07:15:23 AM) melonface: Ron why did you leave LucasArts?
(07:15:26 AM) Rojasono: Ron was off on his merry adventures long before
(07:15:30 AM) OzzieMonkey: He just HAD to have a Jamaican accent
(07:15:33 AM) Gins1: i only realised after a decade that dread is skinny...
(07:15:34 AM) SirLemonhead: what's in the crate marked xxx? haha
(07:15:36 AM) GrumpyGamer: The main inspiration was the Pirates of the Caribbean ride + On Stranger Tides.
(07:15:37 AM) slyh80: I always thought Cpt. Dredd was a woman. :)
(07:15:38 AM) Darth-Phenom: I liked those Putt Putt games :)
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(07:15:43 AM) Tonjevic: SirLemonhead: grog!
(07:15:46 AM) Stanismyhero: Yeah I thought that he was a woman as well
(07:15:46 AM) Pinchpenny: grumpygamer - what do you make of Dom's Guybrush?
(07:15:47 AM) johnny32: GrumpyGamer We want Monkey Island 3 :(
(07:15:50 AM) Lattsam: You can't expect someone with dreadlocks to NOT have a Jamaican accent, amirite?
(07:15:51 AM) happygamer: grumpygamer tell us things we don't know!
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(07:15:57 AM) Fireflower: The Journey Down
(07:15:57 AM) foffing: besides disney wont let ron buy it
(07:16:00 AM) ZombieAtPlay: Well, he got a Monkyologist credit in Tales, i wondered how deep the involvement went :
(07:16:03 AM) Rojasono: Chester is the real woman in this game lol
(07:16:05 AM) Cheeseness: OzzieMonkey: It would have been funnier if he had some crusty brittish accent and was just saying "mon" to be in on the lingo
(07:16:07 AM) TimeGentleman: grumpygamer this is one of few screens with no useful items - were you tempted to put any in?
(07:16:18 AM) melonface: I think Ron hasn't even tried talking to Disney
(07:16:24 AM) Lattsam: Yet
(07:16:25 AM) johnny32: there are quite a few screens without item
(07:16:25 AM) Sinsinstudio: Ron should tell us more about Red tentacle   ha ha ha
(07:16:26 AM) ZombieAtPlay: yet... ;)
(07:16:27 AM) johnny32: s
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(07:16:29 AM) johnny32: like this one
(07:16:30 AM) foffing: yeah he has
(07:16:32 AM) johnny32: outside the ship
(07:16:33 AM) SirLemonhead: i love the silly path
(07:16:34 AM) Darth-Phenom: GrumpyGamer, did you do any heavy research into the metaphysical aspects of voodoo?  Root beer plays a tremendously important role in West African culture after all.
(07:16:34 AM) Cheeseness: melonface: Last time we talked to Ron, he said he hadn't, but planned to
(07:16:35 AM) Gins1: ron is waiting for disney to come to him
(07:16:44 AM) Stanismyhero: I always liked the Scabb Island background theme
(07:16:45 AM) Zonr_0: I would kill for a DotT SE.
(07:16:47 AM) foffing: no he asked already
(07:16:54 AM) GrumpyGamer: What screen?  I was looking away.
(07:16:56 AM) happygamer: without monkey island there would be no breaking bad
(07:16:57 AM) Lattsam: Sam and Max Hit the Road SE plz kthx
(07:16:59 AM) johnny32: in the demo version of mi2, on the map, "Scabb" was mispelled "Scab"
(07:17:00 AM) ZombieAtPlay: Ron, is your toothbrush still red? :P
(07:17:00 AM) OzzieMonkey: I always imagine the office of the head of Disney being like Mr Burns' from the Simpsons with a giant Mickey mouse shadow covering anyone who tries to ask for IP :p
(07:17:06 AM) happygamer: how much woood
(07:17:08 AM) Rojasono: I'd like both a MM and DotT SE
(07:17:09 AM) melonface: Ron what Mac do you use?
(07:17:11 AM) TimeGentleman: I always thought that windy path to the boat was a cruel joke on stuck players!
(07:17:14 AM) Tea: Forget SEs. The originals are as special as they need to be.
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(07:17:24 AM) GrumpyGamer: I have an iMac
(07:17:31 AM) Scummbuddy: @GrumpyGamer. Dredd's boat and this dock scene. Neither room had stuff to loot.
(07:17:34 AM) Stanismyhero: I thought that the carpenter was a woman as well..
(07:17:37 AM) Pinchpenny: I always assumed this woodsmith was a woman. Anyone else think the same?
(07:17:40 AM) happygamer: how many lines of code does mi2 have?
(07:17:42 AM) johnny32: hahahaha
(07:17:46 AM) SirLemonhead: haha yeah i think i thought he was a woman at one point too perhaps
(07:17:47 AM) JonnyG: The SE's just didn't feel the same for me.
(07:17:47 AM) Pinchpenny: Stanismyhero - aha! :)
(07:17:50 AM) Anon: same here
(07:17:56 AM) GrumpyGamer: I don't remember thinking much about not having any objects in that room.
(07:17:56 AM) Lattsam: LOL at that line
(07:17:58 AM) happygamer: grumpygamer how many lines of code does mi2 have?
(07:17:58 AM) Stanismyhero: I love this bit
(07:18:03 AM) OzzieMonkey: I used to think for ages that Augustus DeWaat had brown hair :p
(07:18:04 AM) Lattsam: PWND
(07:18:05 AM) happygamer: best conversation ever
(07:18:07 AM) johnny32: thanks for the woodchuck joke :D
(07:18:09 AM) ZombieAtPlay: What is the 1 to 0 ratio in the binary code of Monkey 2?
(07:18:10 AM) Fireflower: :)
(07:18:11 AM) slyh80: Haha, that's awesome! Totally lost in the German translation, of course.
(07:18:12 AM) TimeGentleman: The woodsmith sounds a little like Harrison Ford - a reference to the star's previous career?
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(07:18:15 AM) GameClubFan_794944: the woodchuck chucking wood dialogue is legendary!
(07:18:19 AM) GrumpyGamer: I have no idea how many lines of code.  A shit-ton.
(07:18:20 AM) melonface: those voice actors have amazing skills
(07:18:21 AM) Zonr_0: I love the brick joke with LeChuck
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(07:18:31 AM) Zonr_0: "How much wood could a woodchuck-" "7 chords"
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(07:18:32 AM) Cheeseness: TimeGentleman: Super observation there
(07:18:33 AM) Rojasono: Oooooh Buzzsaw Girl
(07:18:34 AM) Kalavinka: Buzzsaw Girl.
(07:18:35 AM) johnny32: in which programming language is it done?
(07:18:35 AM) melonface: cheeseness is the attendance a record?
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(07:18:43 AM) Cheeseness: melonface: There are chat logs
(07:18:43 AM) Gins1: who was inspiration for buzzsaw girl?
(07:18:45 AM) Stanismyhero: lol forgot about buzzsaw girl
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(07:18:56 AM) Cheeseness: (so everybody should avoid incriminating themselves :D )
(07:18:56 AM) OzzieMonkey: I didn't really imagine Largo to have a deep voice, that's the only voice that wasn't really what I had in my head
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(07:18:57 AM) happygamer: grumpygamer do you hate kickstarter?
(07:19:00 AM) Sinsinstudio: Why is wally a cockney bloke
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(07:19:01 AM) japro: what really "suffered" under the translation was the monkey wrench puzzle though :) that was just absurdist.
(07:19:09 AM) happygamer: i always felt sorry for wally
(07:19:17 AM) GrumpyGamer: Yeah, I regret that puzzle.
(07:19:20 AM) melonface: is the source code of monkey island 2 open?
(07:19:20 AM) Pinchpenny: is this the same v/o for Wally as in CMI?
(07:19:21 AM) Tea: It's the CoMI Wally but it sounds so off
(07:19:22 AM) Rojasono: Sure you are, Wally.
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(07:19:26 AM) Stanismyhero: Monkey wrench puzzle?
(07:19:29 AM) Lattsam: Pinchpenny yep!
(07:19:32 AM) melonface: cheeseness: not really my question ;)
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(07:19:36 AM) Cheeseness: This isn't the Monkey 3 Wally voice, is it?
(07:19:39 AM) steven: japro: the monkey wrench puzzle had me for days
(07:19:43 AM) GrumpyGamer: Yeah, Monkey wrench puzzle.
(07:19:43 AM) OzzieMonkey: GrumpyGamer: That raft scene you mentioned in the commentary for the SE would have been hilarious
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(07:19:50 AM) Stanismyhero: what puzzle was that again?
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(07:19:54 AM) jojo_: Why is wally british?
(07:19:54 AM) happygamer: at least he gets his monocle back, kind of
(07:19:54 AM) melonface: i get frustrated by puzzles
(07:19:55 AM) slyh80: yeah, the monkey wrench puzzle was lost. But there was some kind of hint somewhere in the translation, iirc.
(07:19:55 AM) Cheeseness: melonface: You're welcome to use awk to pull an attendance record out of the log :3
(07:19:57 AM) foffing: 'i always love how we never saw where wally went after mi 2 & 3
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(07:20:01 AM) johnny32: the monkey wrench puzzle got lost in translation in spanish too :(
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(07:20:16 AM) happygamer: grumpygamer do you live alone?
(07:20:20 AM) steven: even in english the monkey wrench puzzle was tenuous at best
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(07:20:24 AM) GameClubFan_978391: is guybrush aware he is a bit of an asshole?
(07:20:30 AM) melonface: cheeseness: work? sheesh.
(07:20:30 AM) GrumpyGamer: Why, looking for a roomate?
(07:20:31 AM) BlaneTrain: the deep questions arise...
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(07:20:35 AM) Darth-Phenom: What do you call a monkey wrench/spanner in Spain?
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(07:20:46 AM) Stanismyhero: Oh jojo now i rememer
(07:20:48 AM) japro: in german its a "schraubzwinge"
(07:20:48 AM) Darth-Phenom: That one was lost on me too due to my British English :)
(07:20:48 AM) OzzieMonkey: Guybrush can get away with being an asshole, he has an inventory to fill :p
(07:20:49 AM) johnny32: "bomba", which is the same word we use for "bomb"
(07:20:49 AM) salty-horse: a Wrench Royale
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(07:20:53 AM) Cheeseness: The Monkey wrench puzzle never bothered me (we don't really call them monkey wrenches here either)
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(07:21:13 AM) Cheeseness: melonface: So, the answer is that there's an attendance record, but only *if* you really want one :D
(07:21:13 AM) Gins1: it helped that the monkey looked like a wrench
(07:21:14 AM) happygamer: grumpygamer just trying to understand what kind of person you are, tim s is kind of a family guy
(07:21:14 AM) GrumpyGamer: GB isn't an asshole as much as he is snarky.
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(07:21:23 AM) melonface: guybrush is kind of an asshole, isn't he?
(07:21:25 AM) ZombieAtPlay: And Squinky
(07:21:26 AM) jojo_: Oh god aftel all these years i get the monkey wrench pun
(07:21:27 AM) happygamer: gb is not an asshole
(07:21:28 AM) happygamer: at all
(07:21:30 AM) Cheeseness: GrumpyGamer: Stealing Wally's monocle is snarky?
(07:21:31 AM) Samari: did this game come out before or after the Foo Fighters song Monkeywrench?
(07:21:33 AM) GameClubFan_978391: no stealing that monocle is an asshole move
(07:21:34 AM) johnny32: poor wally
(07:21:34 AM) happygamer: poor wally
(07:21:36 AM) Tea: Where does he get his snarkiness from?
(07:21:38 AM) GrumpyGamer: I'm not married and don't have kids and I want to get another dog.
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(07:21:39 AM) johnny32: before
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(07:21:41 AM) Mari: he is a PIRATE guys
(07:21:43 AM) johnny32: FF's song is from 1997
(07:21:44 AM) Mari: come on...
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(07:21:55 AM) slyh80: He totally stole the monocle!
(07:21:55 AM) TimeGentleman: He's an ADVENTURER, it's standard practice
(07:22:00 AM) Rojasono: Why you gotta pick on the tiny guy, Threepwood? :(
(07:22:01 AM) Lattsam: And SPEAKING of men of low moral fiber...
(07:22:05 AM) Zonr_0: Man, I love iMuse.
(07:22:10 AM) jojo_: This is the best part of iMuse
(07:22:13 AM) GameClubFan_978391: but he acts so nice...
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(07:22:14 AM) johnny32: yep
(07:22:16 AM) Zonr_0: midi is so underrated.
(07:22:20 AM) OzzieMonkey: everyone I show this game to has an instant reaction of "Guybrush is so mean"
(07:22:21 AM) Gins1: What would you guys do if you need a monocle and there is only one in the world?
(07:22:21 AM) Stanismyhero: IMuse is awesome
(07:22:24 AM) Gins1: don't blame guybrush
(07:22:25 AM) melonface: cheeseness: oh, but i meant record as in how many people were present in the chat.. the maximum
(07:22:29 AM) johnny32: iMuse nailed it here
(07:22:30 AM) happygamer: grumpygamer so you are the antipode to tim schafer
(07:22:31 AM) Mari: actually, for being a pirate, he is kind lacking in the murdering objects department, too
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(07:22:43 AM) Cheeseness: GrumpyGamer: This comes back to the question that I asked during our interview last time about bad things happening to people as a result of player actions. Guybrush does some awful stuff to people throughout the course of the game that players can't avoid. It seems to be a bit of a recurring thing in your games, and I thought that The Cave was this really fascinating embodiment of the same thing, and at the same time on a more subtle level, the polar opposite
(07:22:43 AM) Mari: err. obstacles
(07:22:47 AM) Sinsinstudio: Ron.... When you wrote MI2 did you story board it  or was it all just scripted in like a book format??
(07:22:51 AM) nacholg: I love when characters break the 4th wall
(07:22:54 AM) GameClubFan_978391: he's a passive aggressive pirate
(07:22:56 AM) Cheeseness: melonface: Nah, just what we observe (unelss lietu has something set up)
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(07:23:06 AM) happygamer: godfather reference!
(07:23:07 AM) ZombieAtPlay: Is there a website where you can fade and boost all the tracks in iMuse at you whim? If not can someone get on that? C'mon, for me!
(07:23:10 AM) gsm: Guybrush wants to be a pirate, that's why pirates do
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(07:23:23 AM) gsm: *what pirate do*
(07:23:30 AM) GrumpyGamer: We did pencil drawings of all the rooms, but we didn't storybaord any of the action.
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(07:23:49 AM) happygamer: how detailed was the story written before you started programming?
(07:23:53 AM) johnny32: here
(07:23:54 AM) Stanismyhero: lol
(07:23:55 AM) Zaarin: Cheeseness: your long statement up there cut off in the middle :)
(07:23:56 AM) johnny32: the puzzle of the stick and the box
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(07:23:59 AM) johnny32: and the rope
(07:24:00 AM) nacholg: @grumpygamer How did you came up with the names of the Islands?
(07:24:01 AM) GameClubFan_794944: Where did you find the inspiration for writing all these amazing dialogues?
(07:24:01 AM) OzzieMonkey: I wonder where they got their new rat from...
(07:24:01 AM) jojo_: So how did you plan out the puzzles?
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(07:24:10 AM) salty-horse: GrumpyGamer, when programming, did you use scanned-in pencil drawings, or just "programmer art"?
(07:24:10 AM) OzzieMonkey: probably Stan's previously owned Rats :p
(07:24:12 AM) SirLemonhead: that pirate on the left's voice makes me think of Peter Sarsgaard..
(07:24:16 AM) johnny32: WHY Guybrush can tie it without putting the stick on the box?
(07:24:16 AM) Cheeseness: Zaarin: Aww. Silly IRC clients
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(07:24:18 AM) Zonr_0: Oh god, the philosopher conversation.
(07:24:21 AM) johnny32: And ha can do it later?
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(07:24:27 AM) happygamer: we are merely players! that's the secret
(07:24:32 AM) GrumpyGamer: Not much of the story was written out before.  I had huge puzzle charts for the puzzles and the story just followed those and we made it up as we went.
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(07:24:34 AM) Cheeseness: Zaarin: I can try again if you're interested ^_^
(07:24:40 AM) GameClubFan_496745: @grumpygamer What are your fondest memories developing this project?
(07:24:40 AM) ***Zonr_0 loves sitting there going through the entire converastion.
(07:24:43 AM) Stanismyhero: I like the Woody Allen-esque humour here
(07:24:44 AM) Gins1: sounds like how a game should be made
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(07:24:50 AM) happygamer: so you made it up as you went, interesting
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(07:25:00 AM) Sinsinstudio: cool
(07:25:07 AM) GrumpyGamer: I loved working with iMuse.
(07:25:09 AM) Stanismyhero: Stupidity?
(07:25:09 AM) lfcorreia: GrumpyGamer, do you still have some of the actual game scripts from MI2?
(07:25:10 AM) Lattsam: LOL
(07:25:11 AM) Stanismyhero: tlol
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(07:25:19 AM) GrumpyGamer: I do have them.
(07:25:20 AM) Tea: iMuse is the best thing to ever happen to videogames
(07:25:26 AM) melonface: grumpygamer What famous people you know of have played Monkey Island? Steven Spielberg?
(07:25:26 AM) Zonr_0: rofl
(07:25:26 AM) OzzieMonkey: iMuse must have been very tricky to get right
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(07:25:41 AM) OzzieMonkey: I heard that Elijah Wood was an MI fan
(07:25:43 AM) GrumpyGamer: Yes, Steven Spielberg used to call me up for hints.
(07:25:43 AM) johnny32: Tea Yes, after insult sword fighting :D
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(07:25:45 AM) Zonr_0: iMuse is great in other old lucasart games too.
(07:25:48 AM) fibrousmen: this is the best looking adventure game ever.  the colors of scabb kill me.
(07:25:52 AM) Tea: OzzieMonkey: And then the ScummVM devs had to get it right all over again!
(07:25:52 AM) GrumpyGamer: True story.
(07:25:54 AM) yama: GrumpyGamer, surely you must've had an overarching plan for the story?
(07:26:00 AM) ZombieAtPlay: grumpygamer Did you have to give the go ahead for the MI movie to be developed when you were at Lucas (even though it only made it to storyboards) or is everything MI owned completely by lucasarts?
(07:26:01 AM) melonface: grumpygamer, really? that's funny
(07:26:02 AM) gsm: GrumpyGamer film directing hints?
(07:26:03 AM) lfcorreia: GrumpyGamer, I sure wanted to see at least one of them, in uncompiled form that is
(07:26:03 AM) Lattsam: That rat is kinda cute
(07:26:06 AM) OzzieMonkey: Bless you ScummVM
(07:26:09 AM) Kalavinka: Muenster Monster XDDD
(07:26:12 AM) japro: GrumpyGamer, couldn't you exchange those for the mi license with disney :D that way they would get another pirates of the carribean movie written ... :p
(07:26:14 AM) Kalavinka: this is the first time I read that in english
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(07:26:16 AM) Fireflower: watch out Cheeseness :)
(07:26:19 AM) johnny32: wow
(07:26:24 AM) johnny32: what did iMuse here?
(07:26:24 AM) GrumpyGamer: I was gone by the time they started thinking about the movie.
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(07:26:26 AM) Permafry_42: @Grumpygamer What is one thing you wish all modern game developers knew that they usually don't?
(07:26:29 AM) johnny32: the drums are all gone
(07:26:29 AM) kisak: this stream just reminds me how superior the storytelling was back in the day
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(07:26:34 AM) Cheeseness: Fireflower: Hmm?
(07:26:44 AM) Fireflower: The rats passion for cheese :)
(07:26:47 AM) Cheeseness: Oh, right
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(07:26:54 AM) salty-horse: he's pickier than a voodoo head of navigation
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(07:27:04 AM) Cheeseness: Yeah. I've spent the last few years building up a resistance to iocaine powder. I'm sure I'll be fine
(07:27:04 AM) Schmuhf: Quentin Tarantino stole the "Please, with sugar on top" for Pulp Fiction
(07:27:09 AM) DayvHack: Come on, be a pal!
(07:27:09 AM) ZombieAtPlay: Grumpygamer thank you for doing this little commentary, You rock :)
(07:27:13 AM) Scummbuddy: This is a classic dialog gag
(07:27:13 AM) Lattsam: Guybrush is a lot like me... very persistent
(07:27:15 AM) Fireflower: :)
(07:27:16 AM) melonface: Disney would probably think Ron's Monkey Island 3 would dilute the pirates of the caribbean brand
(07:27:17 AM) Stanismyhero: The voice actors really add to the humour in the SE
(07:27:17 AM) deadmau3: spielberg should buy monkey island ip from mickey and give it ron
(07:27:19 AM) Zaarin: johnny32: the game fades out the accordion and percussion when you stop talking to the 3 pirates
(07:27:23 AM) japro: i wonder how much of the "loss of creativity" is due to the whole production pipline involving so many more people?
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(07:27:30 AM) Zaarin: and then fades in that synthy thing playing the Mad Marty melody line
(07:27:32 AM) johnny32: Zaarin wow, I never noticed it :S
(07:27:33 AM) Lattsam: Yay
(07:27:34 AM) GrumpyGamer: How to pace an interactive story and use puzzles to drive the plot.
(07:27:35 AM) Zaarin: it's one MIDI, two arrangements
(07:27:38 AM) OzzieMonkey: "I'll never speak to you again" is not a good threat when it's Guybrush...or Sam and Max
(07:27:39 AM) Rojasono: Lol whiny little Thornbush gets his way!
(07:27:42 AM) Tea: "Come on be a pal" - How to get anyone to do anything for you
(07:27:45 AM) japro: it seems creativity doesn't add up with involved people but more like average out
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(07:27:48 AM) SirLemonhead: ahh i love this guy :D
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(07:27:51 AM) Tea: Hey, GrumpyGamer, be a pal and tell us the Secret of Monkey Island
(07:27:59 AM) Kalavinka: Marty!
(07:28:01 AM) SirLemonhead: i like the voice too
(07:28:04 AM) happygamer: no questions about the secret please
(07:28:05 AM) OzzieMonkey: Tea: HAHAHAHAHA
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(07:28:07 AM) GrumpyGamer: Guybrush is really a Banana.
(07:28:10 AM) salty-horse: Tea, it's Friendship
(07:28:12 AM) johnny32: Well, the Marty jokes didn't get lost in translation in spanish :)
(07:28:13 AM) BlaneTrain: i need a guy like marty around
(07:28:13 AM) Zonr_0: I knew it!
(07:28:13 AM) Stanismyhero: I knew it
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(07:28:24 AM) melonface: wow!
(07:28:28 AM) GrumpyGamer: I makes perfect sense if you think about it.
(07:28:31 AM) melonface: breaking news
(07:28:32 AM) happygamer: how old is lechuck?
(07:28:32 AM) OzzieMonkey: Largo is really Guybrush's grandmother, that's the secret
(07:28:40 AM) ZombieAtPlay: You gotta search for the secret inside yourself~
(07:28:44 AM) TimeGentleman: Clever how "grog, spit and swamp-mud" reflect other areas of the game
(07:28:48 AM) Tonjevic: he's delicious and peels easily?
(07:28:50 AM) Lattsam: That alligator is so cute
(07:28:52 AM) Anon: The secret was inside us all along.
(07:28:53 AM) GrumpyGamer: Don't slip on the secret
(07:28:53 AM) SirLemonhead: flappy arms :)
(07:28:58 AM) Fireflower: how much wood can lechuck chuck?
(07:28:58 AM) jojo_: Gon. Any tips to make a system like iMuse
(07:29:00 AM) OneHundredAndThirtySevenButts: what is that guy doing with his arms
(07:29:01 AM) GameClubFan_499050: I always thought the secret of Monkey Island was that it was a gateway to hell
(07:29:04 AM) Zonr_0: ha, good catch TimeGentleman.
(07:29:06 AM) GameClubFan_716570: I thought it was the dog in the Scumm bar
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(07:29:08 AM) gsm: Funny, I'm eating Guybrush right now
(07:29:15 AM) Sinsinstudio: LIke you didn't see Guybrush was a monkey ... its plain to see  Elaine is an Avocado
(07:29:18 AM) Gins1: isn't the secret a giant monkey robot??
(07:29:19 AM) melonface: grumpygamer is it in your will to release the secret when you die?
(07:29:22 AM) happygamer: what kind of animal is that?
(07:29:22 AM) happygamer: a dragon?
(07:29:23 AM) Tea: Gins1: NO!
(07:29:25 AM) melonface: IF you ever die
(07:29:27 AM) jojo_: Oh god I mean Ron
(07:29:27 AM) Gins1: lol
(07:29:27 AM) happygamer: no!
(07:29:27 AM) Stanismyhero: Like the voice
(07:29:33 AM) OzzieMonkey: The secret lies in why Stan moves his arms about so much
(07:29:34 AM) GameClubFan_499050: a gateway to hell kind of like in Doom
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(07:29:38 AM) Lattsam: happygamer It's a gator... weren't you paying attention?
(07:29:50 AM) fibrousmen: am I the only one whos not a huge Dominic Armato fan? I always pictured Guybrush sounding more like Michael J Fox
(07:29:51 AM) SirLemonhead: it's such a great location, with all it's..slantyness
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(07:29:53 AM) salty-horse: took me ages to realise I can go through the window there
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(07:30:00 AM) SirLemonhead: fibrousmen: I don't like him at all
(07:30:00 AM) Sinsinstudio: who is playing the Game
(07:30:04 AM) happygamer: syd
(07:30:08 AM) ZombieAtPlay: I love how everything is at an angle, there are very few straight lines in Woodtick
(07:30:09 AM) Sinsinstudio: ahhh
(07:30:10 AM) GrumpyGamer: Man did we love having 256 colors for this game.
(07:30:13 AM) jojo_: Syd meiyer
(07:30:18 AM) Zonr_0: it shows, heh
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(07:30:19 AM) Syd: Hm?
(07:30:21 AM) OriginalRune: grumpygamer, I have a question not related to Monkey Island. Are you happy with your life and what you see for your future?
(07:30:22 AM) happygamer: i always wondered what happened with the cook after we get him fired
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(07:30:26 AM) Scummbuddy: Are some of the game soundFx lost in this hybrid version? When he pulled the shovel off the sign, and here, as he fell in the room  - no soundFx.
(07:30:27 AM) johnny32: the secret is in the game
(07:30:29 AM) Sinsinstudio: It would be funny if he got stuck
(07:30:30 AM) Tea: salty-horse: Amen... That was a huge facepalm moment
(07:30:32 AM) Cheeseness: I feel like some of the dialogue's pacing doesn't work so well with voices (it's obvious that they were written with text in mind)
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(07:30:34 AM) johnny32: you have to hack it and jump to a random room number
(07:30:37 AM) Gins1: the music of MI2 is so calming
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(07:30:41 AM) japro: those backgrounds are literally scanned drawings right?
(07:30:43 AM) happygamer: grumpygamer can you believe we are playing this 22 years later?
(07:30:44 AM) johnny32: it must be in one of those rooms
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(07:30:44 AM) Gins1: i sometimes have it as an endless loop while i work
(07:30:45 AM) Cheeseness: GrumpyGamer: I know, right. This game is *beautiful*
(07:30:52 AM) SirLemonhead: I always loved his big red nose
(07:30:53 AM) BlaneTrain: nothing washes a glass like spit
(07:30:55 AM) Rojasono: The fine art of mug cleaning
(07:30:55 AM) johnny32: GrumpyGamer what's there in room 42 of this game?
(07:30:57 AM) Tea: I must have been like 7 when I first played MI2 so I think it's acceptable it took me a good week or two to find that window
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(07:31:03 AM) Syd: After this Largo scene, I'm going to step in and out of the bar. I'm doing that to avoid a bug I ran into with this version.
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(07:31:03 AM) Cheeseness: Uh oh
(07:31:04 AM) Zaarin: Scummbuddy: with an MT-32, it creates the sound effects instead of playing back digital SFX
(07:31:05 AM) GameClubFan_794944: This game is a piece of art
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(07:31:10 AM) Lattsam: The rooms have numbers?
(07:31:16 AM) fibrousmen: I agree, the jokes work perfect with text pacing, not at all with voice
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(07:31:17 AM) GrumpyGamer: No, I can't believe that people still talk about this game.  I would never have believed it back then.
(07:31:18 AM) Anon: DUN DUN DUN
(07:31:24 AM) johnny32: yes, it's the code the game stores the rooms
(07:31:25 AM) salty-horse: Syd, what bug? report to scummvm
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(07:31:31 AM) SirLemonhead: fibrousmen: glad i'm not alone on the voices
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(07:31:33 AM) kisak: I want a Pangalactic gargleblaster! can he make that?
(07:31:38 AM) Syd: This is a fanmade version. The person that made this version would have to fix it
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(07:31:39 AM) Stanismyhero: This game was a huge part of my childhood, so much nostalgia playing SE again...
(07:31:40 AM) Tonjevic: that's impressive spit
(07:31:40 AM) happygamer: how many time took that spit animation?
(07:31:41 AM) johnny32: the secret must be in room 42
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(07:31:42 AM) steven: ah, the green spit puzzle
(07:31:42 AM) GrumpyGamer: Spoken dialog and dialog "puzzles" are sometimes at odds with each other.
(07:31:45 AM) OzzieMonkey: Oh dear...the Stream isn't showing
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(07:31:54 AM) happygamer: grumpygamer how many time took that spit animation?
(07:31:55 AM) steven: took me ages to realise that one
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(07:32:05 AM) GameClubFan_165067: i wish i could go back and be ten years old again playing for the first time on my amiga
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(07:32:12 AM) SirLemonhead: POOT
(07:32:12 AM) Gins1: grumpygamer: did you rotoscope the spit animation?
(07:32:13 AM) Cheeseness: GrumpyGamer: For sure. There's also some puns that just don't work when spoken (and vice versa)
(07:32:14 AM) salty-horse: Syd, I wasn't aware the fan version changed any scripts
(07:32:16 AM) Scummbuddy: Thanks @Zaarin
(07:32:18 AM) slyh80: use paper with spit
(07:32:21 AM) A_Bag_of_Cake: I agree with POOT
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(07:32:24 AM) ZombieAtPlay: Oh, and Syd? When (if) we get to Dinky, can you go through every colour with Herman? I'm looking for some inspiration for decorating
(07:32:34 AM) Zonr_0: ^
(07:32:35 AM) Danaroth: I was so impressed when I played this game too; I had not even enjoyed the original MI that much
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(07:32:36 AM) Syd: This version was made using data from the Special Edition
(07:32:36 AM) Anon: I remember it took me forever to finally mouse-over the right spit-splat and get it off the wall...
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(07:32:41 AM) japro: well good to see that even back then all the graphical fidelity was used to create "realistic fluids"
(07:32:41 AM) japro: ees
(07:32:42 AM) SirLemonhead: i love how guybrush randomly scratches his chin too
(07:32:43 AM) japro: eew
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(07:33:07 AM) Lattsam: How many mugs will Grog burn through THIS time?
(07:33:08 AM) Rojasono: "Look at my beard!" LOL
(07:33:08 AM) OzzieMonkey: The spit blends much more nicely into the environment than in the SE
(07:33:09 AM) Zonr_0: how old is Guybrush actually?
(07:33:09 AM) SirLemonhead: itchy beard :)
(07:33:18 AM) Gins1: ni- uhh
(07:33:18 AM) Gins1: 21
(07:33:19 AM) Cheeseness: Near grog
(07:33:20 AM) Cheeseness: >_<
(07:33:26 AM) Schmuhf: SirLemonhead: That's part of the fun of wearing a beard, right? ;)
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(07:33:29 AM) Tea: FORESHADOWING
(07:33:34 AM) SirLemonhead: :)
(07:33:40 AM) happygamer: grumpygamer have you ever driunk grog?
(07:33:41 AM) Scummbuddy: Nice @Gins
(07:33:44 AM) Stanismyhero: So many bad memories of being under 18
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(07:33:47 AM) johnny32: Ok, I found it in scummbar.com: Room 42: stairs GrumpyGamer which room is this?
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(07:33:51 AM) jojo_: Yeahhh jojo!
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(07:33:55 AM) GrumpyGamer: Not "real" grog.
(07:33:55 AM) Zonr_0: Yeah, there's so much great foreshadowing
(07:33:56 AM) foffing: OzzieMonkey thats why they went to the trouble to show it
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(07:34:03 AM) ZombieAtPlay: happygamer You mead Grog XD
(07:34:08 AM) ZombieAtPlay: *mean
(07:34:08 AM) Samari: use paper with spit?
(07:34:11 AM) SirLemonhead: there's so many great little touches..like the fish swimming past the portholes
(07:34:12 AM) salty-horse: ZombieAtPlay, :D
(07:34:14 AM) Tea: johnny32: You can actually find all those out with the ScummVM console
(07:34:14 AM) deadmau3: in soviet russia alligator frees you
(07:34:14 AM) melonface: an orange peanut? for me?
(07:34:14 AM) ZombieAtPlay: As featured on the news!
(07:34:18 AM) Scummbuddy: I still have an unopened bottle of EMI Grog from LucasArts on my shelf
(07:34:19 AM) Syd: I'll come back for the spit, don't worry. :)
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(07:34:32 AM) TimeGentleman: Look at Syd hiding behind the pillar!
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(07:34:35 AM) Fireflower: damn Pegbiter
(07:34:38 AM) fibrousmen: did Peter Chan design all of Woodtick?
(07:34:40 AM) OzzieMonkey: Damn this music's good, the first time I played it was between the time of it not working on Modern pcs and ScummVM, so I had to run it in DOS mode and in complete silence for the whole game
(07:34:42 AM) Lattsam: Yay for freeing a captured animal!
(07:34:45 AM) BlaneTrain: ol' pegbiter, always running off
(07:34:45 AM) Anon: lol, the name + pegleg cracked me up the first time I saw the joke
(07:34:45 AM) Rojasono: Time to capture the beastly rat
(07:34:52 AM) Lattsam: PETA would be proud
(07:34:52 AM) geecko: This is Ron playing, right ?
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(07:34:55 AM) SirLemonhead: i remember it taking me a long time to figure out to close the door in Largo's room..
(07:34:55 AM) GameClubFan_792699: my girlfriend is bored......
(07:34:57 AM) Anon: that was a good reveal
(07:35:00 AM) happygamer: no it's not ron playing
(07:35:00 AM) melonface: grumpygamer what do you think of broken age?
(07:35:04 AM) Tea: "How did Pegbiter get loose? I'm sure it has absolutely nothing to do with this guy who just walked in and hid behind that pole..."
(07:35:05 AM) Zonr_0: Geecko, no, it's syd
(07:35:10 AM) Syd: Forgot to pick up the cheese squigglies. Oopsies
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(07:35:14 AM) lfcorreia: GrumpyGamer, the first time I played MI1, I laugh so hard on the grog contents... awesome insanity
(07:35:16 AM) geecko: Oh ok. Who's syd ?
(07:35:19 AM) Anon: CHEESE SQUIGGLIES
(07:35:24 AM) Syd: I'm Syd. :D
(07:35:26 AM) happygamer: syd is THE guy
(07:35:29 AM) Rojasono: Syd is a member of the illuminati :O
(07:35:30 AM) OzzieMonkey: That one piece of eight looks so lonely in your inventory Syd
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(07:35:31 AM) Stanismyhero: I'm Spartacus
(07:35:32 AM) Lattsam: I want some Cheese Squigglies!
(07:35:34 AM) Fireflower: where did Pegbiter go?
(07:35:38 AM) ZombieAtPlay: but I want to be the guy
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(07:35:41 AM) Zonr_0: I'm spartacus!
(07:35:42 AM) Tea: The secret of Monkey Island is that Syd is actually Ron Gilbert
(07:35:45 AM) Cheeseness: I get tagged every time somebody says Cheese Squigglies! :D
(07:35:46 AM) BlaneTrain: they do sound delicious
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(07:35:52 AM) gsm: Better luck knowing the secret of MI than knowing who is Syd :)
(07:35:57 AM) melonface: Syd can you switch to the remake for a second?
(07:35:57 AM) OzzieMonkey: are Cheese Squigglies like Twisties? We don't have them in Australia I don't think
(07:35:58 AM) BlaneTrain: you love the attention
(07:36:01 AM) Gins: when i was a kid, it was magic to me that you used multiple graphics for the different amounts of pieces of eight
(07:36:03 AM) OneHundredAndThirtySevenButts: Wait aren't Cheese Squigglies in Putt Putt Goes to the Zoo as well?
(07:36:06 AM) happygamer: grumpygamer did you cut a lot of gameplay during development?
(07:36:07 AM) Lattsam: They're like Cheetos, I think
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(07:36:10 AM) geecko: Why did Ron link to this stream ? Argh I'm so confused
(07:36:14 AM) GrumpyGamer: Not very much
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(07:36:20 AM) Cheeseness: OzzieMonkey: Yeah, like twisties, I think
(07:36:32 AM) Sinsinstudio: Ron do you write puzzles forwards or backwards?
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(07:36:35 AM) Kalavinka: Ron's in the chat, geecko
(07:36:35 AM) GrumpyGamer: Some stuff at the end, but only a room or two.
(07:36:36 AM) Syd: Ron is GrumpyGamer. He's in chat with us. :)
(07:36:38 AM) Rojasono: Yummy, rat soup
(07:36:42 AM) Scummbuddy: I think they are more like Macaroni and Cheese.
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(07:36:48 AM) michiel: How fast did you guys draw the rat icon?
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(07:36:49 AM) geecko: Oh ok. Thanks Kalavinka :)
(07:36:49 AM) Cheeseness: OzzieMonkey: How'd you go getting up for Game Club? 7am's not that bad is it?
(07:36:52 AM) GrumpyGamer: I design puzzles backwards.
(07:36:54 AM) Kalavinka: :)
(07:36:58 AM) GrumpyGamer: It's the best way to do them.
(07:36:58 AM) kisak: high in protein
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(07:37:02 AM) GameClubFan_792699: Ron does not exists!
(07:37:03 AM) Sinsinstudio: I knew it !!
(07:37:07 AM) GameClubFan_978391: Ron who is your favorite character in the series?
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(07:37:10 AM) GameClubFan_792699: Like the secret!!!
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(07:37:12 AM) Gins: makes sense.
(07:37:16 AM) Gins: design backwards, solve forwards
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(07:37:25 AM) GrumpyGamer: I'd have to go with Stan.
(07:37:26 AM) jojo_: GrumpyGamer: What does designing puzzles backward mean?
(07:37:27 AM) Tea: GrumpyGamer: I guess it makes no sense to say "I need to use paper on this spit on the wall" and then think about what to do with the spit
(07:37:30 AM) Gins: i'd guess backwards puzzles are the results of doing it the otehr way round~
(07:37:34 AM) GameClubFan_716570: <- GrumpyGamer this game series made me want to be a game developer. 20 years later I'm a successful mobile developer, still trying to make a game worth a damn.
(07:37:38 AM) Stanismyhero: Vichyssoise
(07:37:41 AM) GrumpyGamer: If you don't include Guybrush or Elaine.
(07:37:43 AM) ZombieAtPlay: Grumpygamer what did you think of the trailers for the special edition LucasArts did?
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(07:37:49 AM) melonface: irc chat is hella confusing? my head hurts
(07:37:50 AM) geecko: I just love this scene
(07:37:51 AM) ZombieAtPlay: The cgi ones :)
(07:37:52 AM) slyh80: Haha, they talk in the bathroom ;)
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(07:37:55 AM) GameClubFan_496745: @GrumpyGamer Is there anything, which you would have liked to have changed / done before the game had to be finished but which you just didn't have the chance to do?
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(07:37:57 AM) Scummbuddy: That doesn't sound like Bernard Bernouli at all!
(07:37:59 AM) geecko: It was better without the voices though
(07:38:00 AM) japro: so which actor would play stan in a MI movie?
(07:38:02 AM) Cheeseness: Dom's laugh there is great :D
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(07:38:04 AM) Danaroth: GrumpyGamer, I have heard a lot of people complaining about the slowness of general movement of the characters. Wasn't that one thing you were trying to avoid when designing the game (slow movements being a big issue of standard adventure)?
(07:38:05 AM) japro: nicolas cage maybe?
(07:38:07 AM) SirLemonhead: i do like the voice of the barman
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(07:38:09 AM) Sinsinstudio: what was the 1st mate called on LeChuck's ship on MI1
(07:38:10 AM) Rojasono: Rat soup-serving bastard lol
(07:38:10 AM) Fireflower: how many voice actors did they use for this version?
(07:38:18 AM) Kalavinka: oh god, Nicholas Cage as Stan
(07:38:20 AM) Lattsam: I don't know... maybe 20?
(07:38:23 AM) Tea: Sinsinstudio: Bob
(07:38:28 AM) happygamer: grumpygamer was there a point in development where you were creatively "stuck"?
(07:38:31 AM) johnny32: @GrumpyGamer why did you do the 19 pieces o'eight and the wax puzzle?
(07:38:32 AM) Sinsinstudio: ahhhh of course
(07:38:35 AM) OzzieMonkey: I can imagine Stan saying "ya don't say?"
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(07:38:44 AM) ZombieAtPlay: John Malcovich for Stan!
(07:38:46 AM) Gins: to frustrate players i think
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(07:38:47 AM) GameClubFan_499050: When I finished Monkey Island I never felt that I didn't know the secret. I am continually baffled by people asking about it.
(07:38:51 AM) melonface: i also want a job on that boat
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(07:38:53 AM) Scummbuddy: @johnny32 - to throw people off the trail
(07:38:53 AM) GrumpyGamer: Back then, people didn't really complain about the slowness of movement.
(07:38:59 AM) johnny32: the one where you have to put wax to the wood leg to get 1 piece o'eight
(07:39:01 AM) Gins: i actually tried to earn 20 pieces of eight with waxing...
(07:39:05 AM) melonface: back in the old days
(07:39:06 AM) johnny32: hahahaha Scummbuddy
(07:39:08 AM) kisak: a weeks worth of unproven wages ... nice
(07:39:12 AM) Stanismyhero: lol
(07:39:18 AM) Cheeseness: Gins: Only 20? :D
(07:39:19 AM) Sinsinstudio: you think he's slow ... did you ever see Simon the Sorceror 1
(07:39:21 AM) GrumpyGamer: Yeah, I was stuck on the ending for quite a while.
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(07:39:32 AM) GrumpyGamer: It came to me one morning while in bed.
(07:39:33 AM) ZombieAtPlay: Oh man, Somon 1 >.<
(07:39:33 AM) Gins: idk can't you only get 19?
(07:39:36 AM) OzzieMonkey: My Mum and I often have conversations about who we'd cast in an MI movie, she suggested Bill Paxton for Stan, idk about that
(07:39:37 AM) Scummbuddy: Love that line, about a whole bucket of mud
(07:39:39 AM) ZombieAtPlay: *Simon
(07:39:42 AM) happygamer: interesting
(07:39:43 AM) Gins: it's like a red herring, isn't it
(07:39:44 AM) johnny32: Gins yes
(07:39:47 AM) BlaneTrain: great things happen in beds
(07:39:52 AM) johnny32: Gins I've tried it...
(07:39:57 AM) mancombseepgood: What platforms is Monkey Island 2: Special Edition on?
(07:39:59 AM) Cheeseness: It's probably worth highlighting at this point that contrary to what Brian recalled during our Loom session, the ending for Monkey Island 2 wasn't slated for Monkey Island 1
(07:40:01 AM) happygamer: grumpygamer a stroke of genius
(07:40:03 AM) Tea: OzzieMonkey: I think you're the only person in the world who has a parent that has idea wtf Monkey Island is
(07:40:04 AM) Lattsam: I know it's on Steam
(07:40:04 AM) Sinsinstudio: he walked so slowly
(07:40:10 AM) mancombseepgood: Steam for Mac?
(07:40:11 AM) Cheeseness: mancombseepgood: Only Windows (so far as PC stuff goes) unfortunately
(07:40:12 AM) Rojasono: My girlfriend suggests Adam Sandler for Stan. I'm not sure what to think about that.
(07:40:18 AM) mancombseepgood: Boo
(07:40:22 AM) Sinsinstudio: BOOOO
(07:40:23 AM) Stanismyhero: I used to be so scared that Largo would come in
(07:40:23 AM) Cheeseness: It runs OK in Wine though
(07:40:25 AM) GameClubFan_978391: simon the sorcerer was great. Did you play all the non-LA adventure games grumpygamer?
(07:40:25 AM) Danaroth: I wonder why there is this general thinking that the ending of MI2 is a cliffhanger, I never had that impression when I completed the game =P
(07:40:27 AM) johnny32: Largo coming...
(07:40:28 AM) happygamer: took me forever to solve that puzzle!
(07:40:31 AM) mancombseepgood: I can play the original in Scumm but I'd love to try the new version
(07:40:33 AM) Gins: Stanismyhero: me too
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(07:40:37 AM) Sinsinstudio: cheeseness me too
(07:40:42 AM) Lattsam: LOL at buckethead Largo
(07:40:42 AM) Gins: i jumped on my seat
(07:40:43 AM) happygamer: b/c you can't see the door would hold a bucket
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(07:40:45 AM) GrumpyGamer: No, sadly I did not play very many of them.
(07:40:45 AM) ZombieAtPlay: Simon 2 was brilliant
(07:40:56 AM) Sinsinstudio: true
(07:40:59 AM) Scummbuddy: @Danaroth Because if you stay on past the credits...
(07:41:00 AM) foffing: do it with minjiffs off
(07:41:01 AM) Kalavinka: blergh
(07:41:03 AM) melonface: my head hurts from irc
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(07:41:08 AM) GameClubFan_978391: can you name any you enjoyed grumpygamer?
(07:41:08 AM) Sinsinstudio: but no MI1 or 2
(07:41:09 AM) Syd: I'm playing without a guide. I'm bold like that. :D
(07:41:10 AM) Gins: irc moves too fast
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(07:41:12 AM) Tea: Cheeseness: pgood: You can extract the original files from the SE for ScummVM. No need for Wine anywhere!
(07:41:13 AM) GrumpyGamer: It was not meant to be a cliff hanger.
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(07:41:15 AM) Gins: monkey island has too many fans :(
(07:41:25 AM) melonface: yeah gins :(
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(07:41:30 AM) geecko: "I've been dry for three years" .. wtf ? :P
(07:41:32 AM) Stanismyhero: Too many fans?
(07:41:36 AM) Sinsinstudio: Gins do one you cultist lol
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(07:41:40 AM) OzzieMonkey: MI can never have too many fans
(07:41:41 AM) melonface: can't focus on irc and game
(07:41:41 AM) ZombieAtPlay: Syd you cannae take it! Your brain will wxplode!
(07:41:42 AM) SirLemonhead: ahh I love Marty
(07:41:46 AM) happygamer: grumpygamer when did you realize monkey island became more than just a computer game?
(07:41:48 AM) Rojasono: Marty is such a party animal lol
(07:41:51 AM) melonface: voice commentary would be better
(07:41:51 AM) Gins: Stanismyhero: i mean because of the fast moving irc
(07:41:57 AM) melonface: or google hangout
(07:42:00 AM) Gins: so many people writing makes it hard to read everything :p
(07:42:00 AM) Sinsinstudio: lol
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(07:42:01 AM) GrumpyGamer: Not until around 2002
(07:42:06 AM) Cheeseness: Tea: Unless you want the ability to switch between old and new graphics on the fly (ScummVM can't currently do that can it?)
(07:42:14 AM) happygamer: what made you realize it?
(07:42:18 AM) johnny32: GrumpyGamer After the infamous MI4?
(07:42:24 AM) Scummbuddy: Internet
(07:42:28 AM) GrumpyGamer: I didn't realize how many fans of the game their were until I started my blog.
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(07:42:33 AM) OzzieMonkey: MI4 wasn't great, but it's certainly underrated
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(07:42:39 AM) GameClubFan_716570: dont forget the cheese doodles
(07:42:40 AM) Tea: Cheeseness: No it can't, don't think it ever will
(07:42:40 AM) BlaneTrain: agreed
(07:42:42 AM) mancombseepgood: Who's actually playing the game here?
(07:42:43 AM) johnny32: OzzieMonkey Agree
(07:42:44 AM) geecko: It's amazing how quiet this place is, I would have imagined chaos and Ron being asked 300 questions per minute.
(07:42:48 AM) Cheeseness: I can't wait till we play MI4. Whilst I feel like it's not the strongest title in the series, It's definitely underrated
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(07:42:50 AM) Syd: I'm the one playing/streaming.
(07:42:51 AM) Tea: But come on. Dem Peter Chan backgrounds are as special as they need to be!
(07:42:51 AM) Stanismyhero: Yeah it's not too bad
(07:42:55 AM) Gins: i remember bugging my parents for months so i would have monkey 4 under my christmas tree
(07:42:57 AM) Kalavinka: MI4 was ok, but I thought it sunk really low at some points just to get a cheap joke in
(07:43:00 AM) johnny32: It's just worse than MI, MI2 and even MI3
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(07:43:06 AM) GrumpyGamer: I can hardly keep up with 3 questions a minute!
(07:43:08 AM) johnny32: But it's not an awful game
(07:43:08 AM) Stanismyhero: The whole monkey combat was just stupid
(07:43:22 AM) johnny32: MI4 had very stupid puzzles, though...
(07:43:23 AM) happygamer: grumpygamer was there a joke you had to cut bc it was not allowed by la?
(07:43:25 AM) TimeGentleman: Hooray, a TM gag!
(07:43:27 AM) OzzieMonkey: I was more bugged by what they did to Herman than anything else
(07:43:30 AM) steven: i didn't even bother trying to finish MI4
(07:43:30 AM) Lattsam: LOL... a freaking bra?  LOLOLOLOLOL
(07:43:36 AM) GameClubFan_978391: monkey kombat was terrible, such a shame.
(07:43:37 AM) johnny32: like the giant monkey in monkey island... WTF
(07:43:37 AM) Tea: johnny32: That goddamn rock canal thing...
(07:43:38 AM) GrumpyGamer: Jokes?  No.
(07:43:38 AM) japro: it seems fairly tame for a irc channel with internet royalty in it though :)
(07:43:39 AM) deadmau3: not mention the giant robot
(07:43:39 AM) ZombieAtPlay: It also had great ones, like the Mists 'o Time
(07:43:40 AM) Sinsinstudio: 3D killed Adventure games..   with the exception of Grim Fandango
(07:43:40 AM) Gins: TM gags influenced me a lot...
(07:43:44 AM) Lattsam: It seems Largo's into THAT
(07:43:47 AM) mancombseepgood: Hey Ron what was the last LucasArts game you worked on?
(07:43:50 AM) melonface: i've got to quit irc? it's too much
(07:43:51 AM) SirLemonhead: the bra looks more like something madonna would have worn back in the day.. its quite.pointy :P
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(07:43:56 AM) steven: Sinsinstudio: agreed
(07:43:56 AM) Sinsinstudio: DOTT
(07:43:59 AM) johnny32: Tea OMG I didn't remember that... It was terrible ><
(07:44:00 AM) Anon: M14 might have been good on its own if it were not attached to a group of 3 really awesome games :)
(07:44:10 AM) Kalavinka: iirc correctly in the "easy" version you got a t-shirt instead of a bra
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(07:44:16 AM) steven: i really didn't like the art in MI3
(07:44:16 AM) GrumpyGamer: Last Lucas game I worked on was MI2
(07:44:24 AM) happygamer: ron jsut had the time travel idea for dott, he did not really work on that
(07:44:30 AM) johnny32: steven wow, I liked it a lot...
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(07:44:40 AM) GameClubFan_978391: ron which characters from the MI games you weren't involved in would you bring into a hypothetical MI3a?
(07:44:42 AM) OzzieMonkey: I wonder what MI would be like with time travel elements ...
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(07:44:50 AM) happygamer: grumpygamer tell us more about where the voodoo lady came from
(07:44:50 AM) johnny32: MI3 was easier, but I loved it when I played it
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(07:45:10 AM) johnny32: and Tales... it's the only one I haven't completed...
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(07:45:17 AM) Tea: Tales is weird
(07:45:18 AM) geecko: Happygamer, leave him be :)
(07:45:25 AM) Schmuhf: I think MI3 was an excellent game in general. It just has a really good vibe to it.
(07:45:25 AM) Scummbuddy: TalesMI got better and better.
(07:45:28 AM) SirLemonhead: heh she doesn't even question it
(07:45:31 AM) Gins: mi3 was awesome for me, it had all puzzles exactly hard enough that i felt satisfied with every puzzle solution and never got stuck.
(07:45:32 AM) TimeGentleman: grumpygamer was there any discussion about how many characters to bring back for MI2 from the first game?
(07:45:35 AM) japro: hmm, were all the pirate cliches taken from some where or are there ones that were created by the games themselves?
(07:45:39 AM) GrumpyGamer: I don't remember exactly where she came from, other than we needed some for the voodoo aspects of the game.
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(07:45:54 AM) Sinsinstudio: Ron could you not create MI again but rename it Monkey Archipelago to avoid lawsuits
(07:45:56 AM) OzzieMonkey: GrumpyGamer: Weren't you involved with a lot of Voodoo Lady story ideas for Tales? At least that's what I read somewhere
(07:45:56 AM) johnny32: the only thing i didn't like from MI3 was that they assumed one of the possible endings of MI2
(07:46:01 AM) GameClubFan_716570: MSG
(07:46:06 AM) GrumpyGamer: We had out favorites and tended to being them back.
(07:46:09 AM) happygamer: grumpygamer in which order did you create the characters guybrush, elaine, lechuk, voodoo lady
(07:46:09 AM) Gins: Ape Archipelago
(07:46:11 AM) roberto: the secret of monkey island is....(bsbsbsbsbsbsbsbsbs).
(07:46:12 AM) Stanismyhero: Who do we assassinate? Largo Largo yeah
(07:46:15 AM) Zonr_0: Simian Volcanic land formation?
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(07:46:19 AM) Lattsam: Sinsinstudio jk... you can still call it Monkey Island if you want to
(07:46:25 AM) Rojasono: Voodoo Lady is so chill lol
(07:46:28 AM) GrumpyGamer: Guybrush first.  Eline came quite late.
(07:46:34 AM) johnny32: the secret of monkey island is the song the skeletons dance
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(07:46:36 AM) Samari: They snuck grumpygamer into TTG while they were making Tales
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(07:46:40 AM) Tea: OzzieMonkey: Your message cut off at "involved with voodoo". I thought you were implying GrumpyGamer was a shaman or something
(07:46:46 AM) OzzieMonkey: Didn't her name originate from shouting "ELAINE!" at the church?
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(07:46:54 AM) sabel: brush.guy?
(07:46:54 AM) GrumpyGamer: I do dabble in the dark arts.
(07:46:55 AM) OzzieMonkey: lol no
(07:47:01 AM) slyh80: The fading in and out of part of the room where awesome back then!
(07:47:03 AM) happygamer: elaine from mrs robinson
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(07:47:04 AM) Kalavinka: I want a house like that.
(07:47:04 AM) GrumpyGamer: guybrush.lbm
(07:47:09 AM) Gins: the graduate
(07:47:09 AM) OzzieMonkey: I asked if he was involved with story points for her in Tales
(07:47:12 AM) foffing: man guy these ingredients are crap. oh look its a voodoo doll to be reconned with.
(07:47:14 AM) Zonr_0: Did you sell your soul to design Monkey Island 2?
(07:47:17 AM) Stanismyhero: Funny how you get all the popular culture when you get older (like The Graduate)
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(07:47:22 AM) NattyDreads: The music in this game blew me away on my old 386
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(07:47:37 AM) Tea: GrumpyGamer: Oh hey will Monkey Island run on an Amiga 500+?
(07:47:37 AM) Anon: best midi music :)
(07:47:39 AM) GameClubFan_499050: Deluxe Paint FTW
(07:47:42 AM) mancombseepgood: grumpygamer: Did Lucas have any input on the Monkey Island games?
(07:47:44 AM) SirLemonhead: NattyDreads: love the name. its something I always remember from this game
(07:47:52 AM) Stanismyhero: Loved this bit
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(07:47:58 AM) Gins: especially the beard part later
(07:47:58 AM) GrumpyGamer: No, George didn't have any input.
(07:48:00 AM) johnny32: yeah
(07:48:04 AM) steven: Tea: be prepared to swap a lot of floppies
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(07:48:07 AM) johnny32: the part where guybrush screws it all
(07:48:10 AM) OzzieMonkey: Stanismyhero: I had that moment watching Blues Brothers for the first time, with the library reference to the film
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(07:48:13 AM) johnny32: by giving the living beard to largo...
(07:48:14 AM) NattyDreads: That's probably why it was good.
(07:48:16 AM) Gins: i like this scene
(07:48:21 AM) Kalavinka: dat music
(07:48:21 AM) Tea: steven: I need to find a copy first! And a monitor to plug the Amiga into...
(07:48:23 AM) Gins: how guybrush ruins his own adventure
(07:48:23 AM) Stanismyhero: Love the organ in a minute
(07:48:25 AM) Cheeseness: Poor Guybrush
(07:48:26 AM) mancombseepgood: Did he contribute anything to the early SCUMM games? Story ideas, etc.
(07:48:31 AM) ZombieAtPlay: grumpygamer Did Spielberg give you any good notes?
(07:48:36 AM) geecko: grumpygamer, how would you explain the longevity of this game ? It's been over 20 years !
(07:48:36 AM) Sinsinstudio: Ron.. Why won't you take our money and make sequels to this series and or DOTT.. Yes yes we know Disney have the rights but I'm sure there is a kickstarter way of getting the funds
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(07:48:45 AM) SirLemonhead: uh oh..it's going all dark and scary!
(07:48:45 AM) OzzieMonkey: I love how the music builds to a giant crescendo in this scene, it just fades out in the SE which was disappointing
(07:48:46 AM) Kalavinka: Guybrush noooooooooo
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(07:48:54 AM) happygamer: nooo
(07:48:55 AM) Gins: we should get enough to buy the whole disney...
(07:48:56 AM) Cheeseness: Sinsinstudio: Funds aren't as big an issue as rights
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(07:49:00 AM) slyh80: eeeeew
(07:49:03 AM) GrumpyGamer: No, George didn't have much involvement in the adventure games.
(07:49:03 AM) johnny32: :'(
(07:49:05 AM) Rojasono: The smooth synchronisation of music and action. Ah, iMuse was such genius.
(07:49:07 AM) Cheeseness: (and Disney generally don't part with stuff :(  )
(07:49:10 AM) mancombseepgood: Intersting
(07:49:11 AM) Tonjevic: mmmm, wriggly pants beard
(07:49:17 AM) Stanismyhero: Shouldn't Guybrush chase after him? I mean...he has a voodoo doll lol
(07:49:20 AM) johnny32: yes
(07:49:22 AM) michiel: This brings back memories. As a kid I hardly knew any English and my gameplay was mostly based on trial and error. I was convinced swordfighting in MI1 was done with NUMPAD 9,6,3. I almost never won, but spent hours enjoying it.
(07:49:23 AM) Gins: "whoops"
(07:49:24 AM) johnny32: another great moment of iMuse
(07:49:25 AM) Sinsinstudio: Why did he not use the doll again
(07:49:26 AM) Tea: Largo is a disturbed man
(07:49:31 AM) Tea: He cross dresses. Puts living beards in his pants...
(07:49:35 AM) GrumpyGamer: I honestly have no idea why MI is so popular 20 years later.
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(07:49:39 AM) OzzieMonkey: I saw the best video of a LucasArts crossover of characters teaming up to kill Mickey Mouse, hilarious
(07:49:39 AM) michiel: (not a native speaker)
(07:49:45 AM) Cheeseness: Tea: Guybrush does the same...
(07:49:48 AM) NattyDreads: This game had so much running around, and you know what?  I liked that.
(07:49:54 AM) Stanismyhero: Incredible story and humour
(07:49:56 AM) happygamer: grumpygamer do you wish you knew why?
(07:49:57 AM) johnny32: GrumpyGamer because it's one of the masterpieces of videogames
(07:50:00 AM) GameClubFan_496745: @grumpygamer Was the iMuse a product of feature requirement or just awesome developers messing around and trying things?
(07:50:04 AM) GameClubFan_499050: GrumpyGamer, things people enjoy in their formative years tend to stick with them
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(07:50:12 AM) johnny32: at lest, it's my favourite game ever
(07:50:14 AM) johnny32: *least
(07:50:17 AM) Tea: Cheeseness: Well he put the beard in his *pocket* at least
(07:50:26 AM) lfcorreia: GrumpyGamer, MI games are awesome, and all of the jokes were so great they still work today
(07:50:27 AM) Tea: Largo was clearly experiencing beard-genital contact
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(07:50:29 AM) Cheeseness: That's not so clear :D
(07:50:33 AM) GrumpyGamer: iMuse was just an amazing idea Michael Land had.
(07:50:36 AM) Sinsinstudio: MI is soo popular because it is well written wholesome family fun.. It also loves to stroke your ego and test your logic
(07:50:38 AM) mancombseepgood: Any fans of "The Dig"? One of the few "serious" SCUMM games.
(07:50:44 AM) johnny32: Tea Guybrush's pocket, the same where he can put a giant ear stick :D
(07:50:47 AM) OzzieMonkey: The Dig is awesome
(07:50:47 AM) Cheeseness: We  might do The Dig next :3
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(07:50:52 AM) steven: mancombseepgood: yeah, but it was too short
(07:50:52 AM) johnny32: pgood YES!!!! awesome game!
(07:50:54 AM) Cheeseness: (when we finish Monkey Island 2)
(07:50:56 AM) Stanismyhero: Can we do Fate of Atlantis?
(07:50:57 AM) Rojasono: The storytelling in good adventure games is unrivaled
(07:51:00 AM) OzzieMonkey: I've been marathoning the LA adventures and The Dig is next on my list
(07:51:02 AM) ZombieAtPlay: I loved The Dig
(07:51:03 AM) Cheeseness: We can do anything *and* everything!
(07:51:08 AM) mancombseepgood: With today's technology I think Dig would be a great movie
(07:51:11 AM) Anon: Guybrush's pants pockets exist in hammerspace, so those are indeed hammerpants
(07:51:11 AM) roberto: Is she Elaine Marley Guybrush's family?
(07:51:12 AM) johnny32: The Dig is a way underrated game
(07:51:16 AM) Cheeseness: Game Club planning threads are in the channel topic
(07:51:16 AM) Samari: any Zak McKraken and the Alien Mindbender fans?
(07:51:20 AM) Sinsinstudio: also the imagination can travel for ever and ever with this graphic style for some reason
(07:51:21 AM) OzzieMonkey: johnny32 absolutely
(07:51:24 AM) yama: Cheeseness, bring Steven Spielberg for The Dig!
(07:51:24 AM) Fireflower: The Dig is great
(07:51:25 AM) Tea: GrumpyGamer: Monkey Island is still popular for much the same reasons Sam and Max is. Unique, hilarious, charming...
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(07:51:28 AM) Gins: wasn't a The Dig movie planned at one point?
(07:51:28 AM) ZombieAtPlay: Anon Budum tish :)
(07:51:31 AM) happygamer: grumpygamer why are there delivery guys in a pirate land?
(07:51:32 AM) Schmuhf: Yes, Fate Of Atlantis would be sooooooo good. And let people decide which story arc to play!
(07:51:35 AM) NattyDreads: My imagination always wandered thinking about what other areas of the map you couldn't access would look like.
(07:51:36 AM) Cheeseness: yama: I'll see what I can do
(07:51:41 AM) OneHundredAndThirtySevenButts: i love boat section
(07:51:44 AM) Cheeseness: No promises :b
(07:51:45 AM) johnny32: Gins yes it was, but cancelled due to its cost
(07:51:47 AM) yama: Hehe. :D
(07:51:51 AM) Stanismyhero: Very wistful music
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(07:51:52 AM) OzzieMonkey: Samari: Zak is...interesting, there was potential for a series
(07:52:01 AM) Fireflower: senor Spielbergo
(07:52:03 AM) Cheeseness: Yay, Hermes again
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(07:52:10 AM) yama: Good games never go out of style. :D
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(07:52:12 AM) johnny32: Zak and Loom are the only scumm classic adventures I haven't completed
(07:52:13 AM) GameClubFan_716570: Yeah Zak McKranken, taught me about about eggs and microwaves!
(07:52:18 AM) Gins: but it was really good in game form too
(07:52:19 AM) japro: MI was one of the first "non abstract" games i ever played... which made it instantly more rememberable.
(07:52:23 AM) Gins: the animations where so fluent
(07:52:25 AM) Rojasono: Dreads sits in his ship staring at the sea all day. So sad lol
(07:52:26 AM) OzzieMonkey: A new retro MI would be amazing
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(07:52:31 AM) Ivory: but Loom is incredible
(07:52:32 AM) Sinsinstudio: WHY ARE HIS EYES SO BLACK???
(07:52:32 AM) japro: you hardly ever remember that "awesome tetris moment" you had :)
(07:52:32 AM) deadmau3: better eggs than hamsters
(07:52:33 AM) OzzieMonkey: and it should used MT32
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(07:52:46 AM) johnny32: I played Loom a lot
(07:52:47 AM) GameClubFan_499050: grumpygamer, do you consider adventure games like MI to be more akin to interactive fiction? To me they these games were always different to the other games I played.
(07:52:48 AM) happygamer: grumpygamer what was the biggest challenge during development of mi2?
(07:52:50 AM) johnny32: but never finished it
(07:52:53 AM) Gins: i remember the day i completed tetris
(07:52:56 AM) Gins: but besides that, yea
(07:53:00 AM) Fireflower: haven't finished Zak either, got stuck and couldn't finish it
(07:53:03 AM) OzzieMonkey: "you're standing in it, Mon" can be applied to so much
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(07:53:06 AM) moooo: tetris has a good ending.
(07:53:07 AM) GrumpyGamer: Interactive Fiction is a loaded word.
(07:53:14 AM) Lattsam: Part 2 beginneth!
(07:53:15 AM) GameClubFan_499050: at least my brain sees them as something separate
(07:53:17 AM) Tea: GrumpyGamer: It's two words.
(07:53:19 AM) Anon: Part II is the best part!
(07:53:25 AM) Stanismyhero: They shouldn't have had a voice for the narration
(07:53:26 AM) OzzieMonkey: LeChuck is much scarier in the original
(07:53:29 AM) NattyDreads: I never pictured Largo sounding like that.  All the other voices are pretty spot on though.
(07:53:29 AM) foffing: its funny the head of the navigator in mi 1 is dreads navigator. (canon)
(07:53:30 AM) interceptor: @GrumpyGamer Didn't like the way Elaine was portrayed in later MI games. She would still do her own thing and don't care as much about guybrush if you made a sequel, right?
(07:53:30 AM) TimeGentleman: Earl Boen WOOO!
(07:53:31 AM) Cheeseness: I don't know how I feel about the narration voice here
(07:53:31 AM) johnny32: part 2 is like long cat
(07:53:32 AM) Lattsam: I like that mask
(07:53:32 AM) johnny32: loooooooooooooooong
(07:53:34 AM) happygamer: grumpygamer what about fictional interaction?
(07:53:36 AM) geecko: happygamer, I seem to remember the iMuse sound engine was a pain to develop
(07:53:37 AM) johnny32: but worth it
(07:53:38 AM) Stanismyhero: Yeah LeChuck was really scary in the original
(07:53:39 AM) GameClubFan_978391:  dat voice
(07:53:42 AM) Tea: Earl Boen!!
(07:53:42 AM) mancombseepgood: The great Earl Boen
(07:53:42 AM) Permafry_42: @GrumpyGamer Is there any good resources for learning about pacing for video games and how to write that you'd recommend?
(07:53:44 AM) OzzieMonkey: it took me ages to get through the ending cause I was so scared of being caught by him in the tunnels
(07:53:45 AM) johnny32: I love this room
(07:53:48 AM) Zonr_0: Man, I love LeChuck's voice in the SE.
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(07:53:51 AM) mancombseepgood: Dr Silberman himself
(07:53:54 AM) japro: i was wondering, lechuck is a ghost in 1 but a zombie in 2?
(07:53:57 AM) Tea: He was such a cool guy coming back for Tales. No matter how weird Tales is.
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(07:54:03 AM) Sinsinstudio: LeChucks voice is not Evil enough
(07:54:06 AM) Anon: japro: yes
(07:54:07 AM) Tonjevic: Lechuck sounds a bit like Geoffrey Rush in Pirates of the Caribbean
(07:54:07 AM) Kalavinka: Zombie Lechuck is the scariest
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(07:54:09 AM) johnny32: japro yes, he is relived
(07:54:10 AM) happygamer: grumpygamer who is that voodoo man, perhaps the voodoo lady?
(07:54:10 AM) Kalavinka: that inky beard...
(07:54:16 AM) johnny32: japro with the beard largo just stole
(07:54:17 AM) Stanismyhero: lol
(07:54:22 AM) Cheeseness: I love the dead crow in his hat
(07:54:23 AM) Stanismyhero: I love the voodoo guy's voice
(07:54:26 AM) steven: OzzieMonkey: yeah, that was terrifying
(07:54:26 AM) TimeGentleman: I think LeChuck is scarier in this game
(07:54:28 AM) Tea: Kalavinka: Terrifying, and yet loveable
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(07:54:31 AM) OzzieMonkey: happygamer: Murray before he was demoted?
(07:54:33 AM) GrumpyGamer: I don't know who he is.  I forget he was in the game until just now.
(07:54:39 AM) happygamer: lol
(07:54:43 AM) Cheeseness: :D
(07:54:46 AM) johnny32: I once had a boss who walked like LeChuck in this game
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(07:54:46 AM) GameClubFan_978391: lechuck terrified me as a kid
(07:54:52 AM) johnny32: hahahahaha
(07:54:53 AM) Tea: ^
(07:54:53 AM) Rojasono: Only knows how to get to 3 islands. Best. Captain. Ever.
(07:54:55 AM) lfcorreia: GrumpyGamer, what was the total time it took to make MI2, from idea to game on shelves
(07:54:56 AM) Stanismyhero: LeChuck in the tunnels was terrifying
(07:54:57 AM) OzzieMonkey: maybe he's the secret of monkey island
(07:54:57 AM) johnny32: the voodoo guyç
(07:55:02 AM) GameClubFan_499050 is now known as Smith
(07:55:13 AM) Gins: dread is a dreadful captain
(07:55:16 AM) GrumpyGamer: MI2 was made in just less than a year.
(07:55:19 AM) mancombseepgood: GrumpyGamer: Steve Purcell is now a part of Pixar, did you ever have any interest in going into animation?
(07:55:20 AM) Sinsinstudio: Stanismyhero yup agreed
(07:55:22 AM) Tea: Gins: Zing!
(07:55:27 AM) Cheeseness: GrumpyGamer: I think there's more at play than mere nostalgia. There are plenty of people who've discovered Monkey Island in the past 5 years who're excited about it
(07:55:28 AM) japro: what is the algorithm behind dredds "navigation skills"? :D
(07:55:29 AM) GameClubFan_978391: seriously stanismyhero i needed my dad in the room to do the tunnel stuff
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(07:55:36 AM) GrumpyGamer: I can't draw for crap!
(07:55:39 AM) Gins: srsly look at his routes :P
(07:55:44 AM) Cheeseness: (on the topic of why people are tlaking about it 20 years later)
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(07:55:58 AM) Gins: was this a parody on indiana jones?
(07:55:59 AM) mancombseepgood: Are you pals with Steve or any of the old LA crew still?
(07:56:00 AM) japro: like is dredds sailing proven to terminate?
(07:56:02 AM) Cheeseness: I love the Phatt Island music
(07:56:10 AM) Scummbuddy: @Gins, yes, the traveling is
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(07:56:13 AM) OzzieMonkey: GrumpyGamer: I'm sure you're not as bad as me, I tried to draw my girlfriend and made her look like one of our ex MALE prime ministers
(07:56:18 AM) Verrk: grumpygamer, how is your own personal game jam going?
(07:56:18 AM) Gins: yea that's what i meant, Scummbuddy
(07:56:20 AM) Tonjevic: no sound on that pistol :(
(07:56:27 AM) Rojasono: My nephew played MI2SE last year, and he's all hyped up. Only thing is I can't bring myself to answer him when he keeps asking when the next one will be out...
(07:56:30 AM) Syd: Might be a bug with this version. :(
(07:56:32 AM) GrumpyGamer: I see Steve every so often.  Mostly when I'm trying to scam a Pixar tour.
(07:56:33 AM) johnny32: omg
(07:56:33 AM) Tea: OzzieMonkey: You made your girlfriend look like Thatcher?
(07:56:34 AM) Fireflower: he's using a muffler
(07:56:34 AM) Stanismyhero: The dialogue for this bit is great
(07:56:35 AM) johnny32: the governor...
(07:56:39 AM) mancombseepgood: :-)
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(07:56:45 AM) johnny32: he's disgusting
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(07:56:47 AM) GameClubFan_978391: so gross
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(07:56:49 AM) TimeGentleman: grumpygamer was it tough keeping the balance between the funny anachronisms and keeping the world feeling "real"?
(07:56:50 AM) OzzieMonkey: Tea: no, worse, Rudd
(07:56:51 AM) Cheeseness: This sounds like the Goodsoup guy's voice from MI3
(07:56:56 AM) fibrousmen: Whats coming out of those tubes?
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(07:57:03 AM) Tea: OzzieMonkey: "Ozzie". Of course. Facepalm
(07:57:05 AM) Gins: food
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(07:57:08 AM) johnny32: Wow, Goodsoup!
(07:57:08 AM) Kalavinka: I think what worries me most is that bare foot
(07:57:09 AM) NattyDreads: GrumpyGamer: Was there ever a plan to return to Melee island in this game at any point?
(07:57:09 AM) Rojasono: Roasted chickens come out of the pipes
(07:57:12 AM) johnny32: a great character
(07:57:16 AM) GrumpyGamer: No, humor made keeping that balance pretty easy.
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(07:57:26 AM) OzzieMonkey: NattyDreads: you do...kinda
(07:57:27 AM) Lattsam: Mayor Phatt reminds me of Charles' "mother" from Mystery Case Files, Escape From Ravenhearst
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(07:57:34 AM) GameClubFan_978391: grumpygamer are there any parts of the game you're still unhappy with?
(07:57:36 AM) Tea: NattyDreads: You never got to the ending?
(07:57:41 AM) Gins: grumpygamer: can we have recipes for what phatt eats here?
(07:57:47 AM) Anon: I just had the worst thought: the stuff that comes out of the pipes is the "pink slime" from processed chicken food >_<
(07:57:52 AM) NattyDreads: I mean to explore the island
(07:57:54 AM) Lattsam: TMI
(07:57:55 AM) geecko: The dialogues are just briliant
(07:57:55 AM) sabel: i really loved he travel. hoped for visiting more islans
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(07:58:03 AM) johnny32: GrumpyGamer who took the time to write all the titles of the books in the library?
(07:58:07 AM) ZombieAtPlay: grumpygamer Who came up with all the library book names? Was it a group effort?
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(07:58:13 AM) TimandRobertasLoveChild: You know he has rancid food hiding under his belly flaps
(07:58:15 AM) Tea: Isn't this voice Griswold Goodsoup?
(07:58:16 AM) interceptor: GrumpyGamer I like the way Guybrush makes the situation worse whenever he accomplishes anything. So many funny and not so funny setbacks in this story. Was this all a major part of the design?
(07:58:20 AM) ZombieAtPlay: johnny32 great minds think alike ;)
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(07:58:22 AM) slyh80: I love the feeding animation so much! :)
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(07:58:27 AM) OzzieMonkey: Tea: I think it's Winslow
(07:58:28 AM) GrumpyGamer: That was a group job.  Dave Grossman might have done the bulk of the work.
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(07:58:32 AM) johnny32: ZombieAtPlay yeah hahah
(07:58:38 AM) Sinsinstudio: Ron did you create any of the artwork? if so what got you started?
(07:58:44 AM) Stanismyhero: lol
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(07:58:47 AM) jojo_: How big was that bounty?
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(07:58:53 AM) GrumpyGamer: No, I can't do art.
(07:58:57 AM) Tea: OzzieMonkey: "I've been keeping your seat warm for you while you've been away". Sounds so much different now.
(07:58:58 AM) Stanismyhero: I'LL be back
(07:59:05 AM) GrumpyGamer: I can't draw stick figures.
(07:59:07 AM) Rojasono: You KNOW Threepwood's right about your addiction to pure fat
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(07:59:09 AM) SirLemonhead: hahaha
(07:59:10 AM) geecko: A lot of puns weren't working in translated versions of the game. E.G. "governor phatt"
(07:59:11 AM) TimandRobertasLoveChild: I'll BE back!
(07:59:11 AM) Sinsinstudio: lol
(07:59:15 AM) Scummbuddy: I'll be BACK!
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(07:59:16 AM) Cheeseness: GrumpyGamer: Who drew your Twitter/blog avatar?
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(07:59:16 AM) mancombseepgood: Hey Walt Disney couldn't really draw either
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(07:59:20 AM) mancombseepgood: :-)
(07:59:23 AM) enb: Now I notice I learnt a LOT of English language with these games... the Spanish versions took forever to be made, so a relative sent me the English versions to Argentina from USA
(07:59:37 AM) Gins: i learned english with monkey island 1
(07:59:38 AM) Scummbuddy: speaking of walt...
(07:59:40 AM) Lattsam: Walt... lol
(07:59:40 AM) OzzieMonkey: this scene is sooooo disney :p
(07:59:43 AM) GrumpyGamer: My friend Clayton did my twitter icon and all the art on my site.
(07:59:43 AM) ZombieAtPlay: Grumpygamer how many times did you ride Pirates of the Carribean for the monkey games? Did you get any backstage tours?
(07:59:45 AM) Tea: "Walt". So much foreshadowing
(07:59:58 AM) Smith: gins, do you speak like a pirate?
(07:59:58 AM) Lattsam: Eliza Orlins: It's a f***ing stick
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(08:00:03 AM) johnny32: omg
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(08:00:05 AM) GrumpyGamer: I rode it a lot.  No back stage tours.  :-(
(08:00:05 AM) Gins: lol no
(08:00:06 AM) johnny32: I stucked here for ages
(08:00:13 AM) geecko: Am I the only who thinks the game was better without the voices ?
(08:00:17 AM) Stanismyhero: The Bone Master lol
(08:00:24 AM) OzzieMonkey: The secret is that Walt is really the result of Walt Disney coming out of his frozen state
(08:00:31 AM) happygamer: grumpygamer did you use booty island structure for dinky island because it was easier, or has it a meaning?
(08:00:31 AM) Stanismyhero: I think the voices made some parts funnier, ruined other parts
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(08:00:40 AM) mancombseepgood: I was at Disney a couple years ago and rode POTC like 5 times in a row at 1 in the morning. Such a great ride.
(08:00:41 AM) Tea: OzzieMonkey: Are you implying Disney liked...bones?
(08:00:42 AM) OzzieMonkey: Stanismyhero: Oh god...right in the childhood
(08:00:46 AM) steven: geecko: no, i liked imagining their voices
(08:00:50 AM) interceptor: GrumpyGamer is there a puzzle in this game you really wish you could change?
(08:00:51 AM) Fireflower: i think it was better without voices, but probably because i'm not used to how people sound
(08:00:52 AM) Zonr_0: haha
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(08:00:56 AM) Cheeseness: heh
(08:00:57 AM) Rojasono: The voices are a "can live with, can do without" for me
(08:00:58 AM) Doyle: too many people in this room *shotgun*
(08:00:58 AM) japro: geecko, its funny how the original version is so "burned" into my brain that i have a hart time accepting pretty much any deviation from it
(08:01:01 AM) SirLemonhead: ah it still makes me laugh :D
(08:01:02 AM) japro: graphics or sound...
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(08:01:07 AM) johnny32: GrumpyGamer Dinky and Melee islands are connected throughout tunnels. Is Monkey Island also connected? (as stated in MI3)
(08:01:07 AM) TimeGentleman: Oh man, that organ joke is close to the bone
(08:01:07 AM) Gins: how does an organ fit into an envelope?
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(08:01:10 AM) OzzieMonkey: Tea: More just that the jail is like the potc ride
(08:01:12 AM) jojo_: What to do with the organ, Ron?
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(08:01:21 AM) geecko: japro : yup
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(08:01:29 AM) foffing: i always wanted to use the organ
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(08:01:31 AM) GrumpyGamer: I can't vouch for anything they did in MI3
(08:01:32 AM) Sinsinstudio: Ron how big was the team for MI1+2?
(08:01:37 AM) happygamer: grumpygamer did you use booty island structure for dinky island because it was easier, or has it a meaning?
(08:01:43 AM) Cheeseness: TimeGentleman: Ho ho, I see what you did there
(08:01:46 AM) Cheeseness: :D
(08:01:46 AM) Lattsam: That poster will update from time to time based on all the morally reprehensible stuff Guybrush does in the game
(08:01:49 AM) Doyle: water is wet
(08:01:49 AM) Stanismyhero: The Good the bad and the ugly reference?
(08:01:54 AM) SirLemonhead: Lattsam: i didn't know that
(08:01:54 AM) GrumpyGamer: "booty island structure"?
(08:01:55 AM) Lattsam: How big can you get it?
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(08:02:12 AM) michiel: GrumpyGamer: Do you plan on ever releasing MI design/puzzle documents? (If of course you are legally allowed to do so).
(08:02:12 AM) ***Stove suddenly has violent flashbacks to #monkey-island from over a decade ago, leaving him shivering in a fetal position on the ground.
(08:02:12 AM) happygamer: grumpygamer booty island looks like dinky island in the last scene
(08:02:13 AM) interceptor: GrumpyGamer was the joke with the fisherman's second pipe really a bug that just was left in or was the bug faked?
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(08:02:15 AM) johnny32: GrumpyGamer yes, its shape, the shape booty has
(08:02:26 AM) Smith: grumpygamer, do you feel that the "adventure game" is an inferior form of game?
(08:02:30 AM) GrumpyGamer: It was a bug.
(08:02:30 AM) Rojasono: Lol Guybrush's ego points just went up 1 million points when referred to as "armed and dangerous"
(08:02:37 AM) Stanismyhero: Ahhhh her voice
(08:02:38 AM) NattyDreads: It must have taken forever to write all those cards in the card catalog
(08:02:40 AM) Gins: it's a superior form, Smith
(08:02:41 AM) Cheeseness: GrumpyGamer: Bugs that turn into jokes are the best
(08:02:49 AM) johnny32: GrumpyGamer why Guybrush is way larger in the fisher's room?
(08:02:49 AM) Kalavinka: why isn't she whispering!
(08:02:54 AM) Fireflower: bed bugs
(08:02:55 AM) Schmuhf: God, the file card system was so super awesome.
(08:02:58 AM) Tea: The second pipe is the secret of monkey island
(08:03:02 AM) SirLemonhead: Guybrush comments on the second pipe doesn't he?
(08:03:02 AM) Lattsam: This library will probably be big enough to have wifi
(08:03:04 AM) GameClubFan_978391: this woman and her chair scared me as a kid
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(08:03:09 AM) Stanismyhero: Breakfast at Meathooks
(08:03:10 AM) SirLemonhead: "where did that second pipe come from" or something like that?
(08:03:11 AM) GrumpyGamer: I always hate that he was larger in that room.
(08:03:14 AM) GrumpyGamer: *hated
(08:03:16 AM) Stove: johnny32, obviously he was larger because the scene was closer to the foreground
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(08:03:21 AM) eriktorbjorn: I always liked that wanted poster. "The Feeble Files" used a very similar joke years later.
(08:03:23 AM) Gins: i learned how to operate a chair from the library lady
(08:03:25 AM) Stove: The real question is why he wasn't larger in more scenes
(08:03:28 AM) Cheeseness: GrumpyGamer: Would you have preferred a closeup for that scene?
(08:03:28 AM) Tea: 1060 West Addison!
(08:03:34 AM) OzzieMonkey: Lattsam: Monkey Island 3: Guybrush Discovers The Internet
(08:03:35 AM) deadmau3: I always get Dynanetics by L.Ron Gilbert
(08:03:39 AM) Doyle: Unemployed
(08:03:40 AM) Lattsam: LOL at the addresses
(08:03:41 AM) Zonr_0: haha, 221b baker street
(08:03:42 AM) Cheeseness: Oh, MI2 didn't have any closeups did it?
(08:03:50 AM) johnny32: Stove I prefer a thousand times the "normal" Guybrush than the larger one
(08:03:51 AM) happygamer: grumpygamer booty island looks like dinky island in the last scene, did you just reuse the art or has it further purpose?
(08:03:53 AM) Cheeseness: I love how many jokes are hidden in this dialogue
(08:03:54 AM) ZombieAtPlay: The Feeble Files!! I forgot that game until now!
(08:03:57 AM) Stanismyhero: Jaywalking
(08:04:01 AM) johnny32: Cheeseness right, unlike MI1
(08:04:02 AM) Lattsam: Yeah, the usual
(08:04:17 AM) mancombseepgood: GrumpyGamer What types of computers were most of these SCUMM games designed on?
(08:04:21 AM) Cheeseness: GrumpyGamer: What led to the decision to not use closeups in MI2?
(08:04:31 AM) Lattsam: And four books will probably be all you need if you're good at this game ;)
(08:04:36 AM) GameClubFan_978391: good question mancomb
(08:04:40 AM) GrumpyGamer: We developed all the games on PCs running DOS
(08:04:40 AM) Rojasono: Lol oh Threepwod, so obnoxious
(08:04:45 AM) johnny32: here comes a funny part
(08:04:47 AM) Zonr_0: oh god the card catelog.
(08:04:53 AM) mancombseepgood: How hard were they to port to Mac?
(08:04:54 AM) GrumpyGamer: I never liked the close-ups.
(08:04:58 AM) johnny32: let's see if Syd can pick the right ones at first
(08:04:59 AM) Stove: happygamer, it's supposed to suggest that it's where Guybrush (the kid, the "real" Guybrush) was during the Booty Island part of the story
(08:05:00 AM) GameClubFan_978391: who did the ports? you guys?
(08:05:02 AM) GrumpyGamer: They used a lot of disk space.
(08:05:05 AM) Scummbuddy: I liked the close ups
(08:05:06 AM) Tea: Guybrush has a banana in his pocket. If Guybrush is a banana....oh boy. Escher in the house.
(08:05:11 AM) GrumpyGamer: I'd rather use that on rooms.
(08:05:21 AM) Scummbuddy: Interns get to do the ports
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(08:05:26 AM) Smith: grumpygamer, wacom c or borland c? or something else entirely?
(08:05:27 AM) johnny32: GrumpyGamer yeah!
(08:05:28 AM) Lattsam: Tea I bet she's happy to see him!
(08:05:29 AM) Tea: GrumpyGamer: You mean to say the closeups in MI1 got rooms cut out?
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(08:05:30 AM) Fireflower: How much grog was consumed during the development of this game?
(08:05:33 AM) GameClubFan_978391: they had interns?
(08:05:35 AM) Cheeseness: GrumpyGamer: Would you use closeups in a fictional future Monkey Island game where space wasn't as big a concern?
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(08:05:40 AM) GrumpyGamer: Microsoft C
(08:05:40 AM) OzzieMonkey: Tea: He was just saving his family when he stole them from the cannibals
(08:05:42 AM) mancombseepgood: I am a Mac guy so I didn't get to play most of these until way late. :-)
(08:05:45 AM) Gins: i thought interns were used to hardcode the book names into the game
(08:05:48 AM) geecko: GrumpyGamer : From what you've been tweeting, it sounds like you're really eager to get the rights of Monkey Island back. Is it going to happen ?
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(08:05:55 AM) japro: GrumpyGamer, was the tree stump in MI1 always a joke or a part that was cut at some point?
(08:05:59 AM) GrumpyGamer: I have no idea.
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(08:06:01 AM) Syd: I'm not gonna go through all of those, lol
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(08:06:04 AM) Lattsam: GrumpyGamer geecko please say yes!
(08:06:04 AM) Stanismyhero: I always used to switch Governor Phatt's book with Guybrush Threepwood's Memoirs
(08:06:05 AM) GrumpyGamer: It's a long long road.
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(08:06:08 AM) johnny32: japro it got cut on the CD version I think
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(08:06:12 AM) Cheeseness: Aww, Syd ;_;
(08:06:12 AM) happygamer: grumpygamer booty island looks like dinky island, just a coincidence?
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(08:06:14 AM) Scummbuddy: They had employees that needed to get into the coding mode/style of the group, do doing conversions is a good way to introduce new employees
(08:06:16 AM) geecko: japro : it was cut at some point
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(08:06:20 AM) mancombseepgood: Does Disney have the rights?
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(08:06:27 AM) fibrousmen: the Mac versions were perfect ports!
(08:06:29 AM) Lattsam: mancombseepgood they do now
(08:06:29 AM) johnny32: a pity because I liked it (the team who made MI3 reused it)
(08:06:30 AM) GameClubFan_978391: one you need to take, we need that proper MI in this lifetime, from you.
(08:06:34 AM) Doyle: my back is killing me
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(08:06:38 AM) Tea: pgol
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(08:06:41 AM) Kalavinka: XDDD
(08:06:42 AM) mancombseepgood: Agreed fibrousmen
(08:06:46 AM) japro: on the cd version? so there was a version where you could down there? or was the stump itself cut?
(08:06:54 AM) happygamer: grumpygamer booty island looks like dinky island, just a coincidence?
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(08:07:04 AM) Schmuhf: stop it, happygamer
(08:07:05 AM) Tea: japro: You've always been able to go down in there! Just insert disk #231
(08:07:07 AM) Kalavinka: who cares about booty island
(08:07:11 AM) Flirbnic: happygamer, I answered your question :P
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(08:07:13 AM) Tonjevic: hah, nice way of avoiding a walking animation
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(08:07:19 AM) GameClubFan_978391: that chair is just nuts, and disconcerting
(08:07:22 AM) happygamer: i didn't see the answer
(08:07:23 AM) johnny32: japro in the original version, it was a joke (because it asked for inexistent disks), but people started calling lucasfilm asking for the disks, so they cut that joke off
(08:07:25 AM) Lattsam: Tea then insert disks 232 233 234 and 235
(08:07:26 AM) GrumpyGamer: I don't remember anything special about those to islands looking the same.
(08:07:27 AM) Flirbnic: happygamer, it's supposed to suggest that it's where Guybrush (the kid, the "real" Guybrush) was during the Booty Island part of the story
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(08:07:36 AM) TimeGentleman: So, how many people get the "Joy Of Hex" reference these days?
(08:07:42 AM) Gins: maybe it was just peter chan being lazy.
(08:07:42 AM) Stanismyhero: lol yes
(08:07:43 AM) geecko: I didn't.
(08:07:45 AM) Lattsam: (raises hand)
(08:07:45 AM) Tea: Lattsam: Nono. 235 is the bootdisk. You want 341.
(08:07:54 AM) Flirbnic: happygamer: As in, while the kid was in that part of the theme park, he was imagining Booty Island
(08:07:55 AM) OzzieMonkey: TimeGenleman: I do :p
(08:07:55 AM) FineLeatherJacketSeller: Ahhh
(08:07:57 AM) japro: johnny, yeah i remember the disk number thing... a friend of mine also tried asking for those :)
(08:07:59 AM) GrumpyGamer: Hex isn't fun anymore?
(08:08:01 AM) Rojasono: The stump joke gave me my first nerdrage ever. It was a short rage, but there nonetheless.
(08:08:05 AM) Verrk: what recent game made you least grumpy?
(08:08:06 AM) FineLeatherJacketSeller: Hate that Guybrush model on the pier
(08:08:07 AM) mancombseepgood: GrumpyGamer: Who currently has MI rights? Disney?
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(08:08:14 AM) GrumpyGamer: Disney
(08:08:21 AM) Tea: Fishy Two Pipes McCafery
(08:08:26 AM) GameClubFan_978391: dat "beard"
(08:08:27 AM) johnny32: hmmm, didn't Telltale buy them to make ToMI?
(08:08:29 AM) Gins: i loved the two pipes joke
(08:08:30 AM) OzzieMonkey: Disney makes me sad :(
(08:08:33 AM) happygamer: grumpygamer does disney know they own the rights?
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(08:08:36 AM) NattyDreads: Does disney even know what treasures they are sitting on?
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(08:08:42 AM) Tea: johnny32: Telltale were 'lent' them
(08:08:43 AM) OzzieMonkey: johnny32: licensed from them
(08:08:43 AM) Flirbnic: Hmm
(08:08:45 AM) GrumpyGamer: Yes, Disney owns the rights to MI
(08:08:45 AM) ZombieAtPlay: Yeesh. Now THIS close up, i can see why you might not like it
(08:08:50 AM) Lattsam: Does Disney know they're sitting on the Sam and Max games we actually want?
(08:08:52 AM) johnny32: oh ok, thanks :)
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(08:09:02 AM) Rojasono: Disney isn't going to do anything with the rights anyway... :(
(08:09:02 AM) mancombseepgood: GrumpyGamer: They don't seem to care a lot about non SW properties right now so I hope they give you the rights back!
(08:09:04 AM) Sinsinstudio: how much would it cost to get them back
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(08:09:05 AM) Tea: johnny32: "Hey Telltale, could you make a Monkey Island game to keep these fanboys quiet?"
(08:09:07 AM) Flirbnic: Now that Disney owns the rights to Monkey Island, they can stop denying that Pirates of the Caribbean was based on Monkey Island.
(08:09:10 AM) Zonr_0: oof, yeah, Guybrush looks terrible in this closeup
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(08:09:13 AM) Flirbnic: The truth must come out!
(08:09:16 AM) GameClubFan_978391: who's call was this "close up"? it stands out as odd
(08:09:17 AM) Smith: i love the irony that disney, creators of the POTC ride,  now own monkey island
(08:09:19 AM) OzzieMonkey: Disney really should consider putting all these games in their original form on GOG
(08:09:22 AM) GrumpyGamer: Disney doesn't own S&M… Steve Purcell does.
(08:09:24 AM) Stanismyhero: I always used to like this closeup but I can see why it's not liked
(08:09:24 AM) interceptor: yay the bug!
(08:09:26 AM) Lattsam: I think his beard makes him look sexah
(08:09:36 AM) FineLeatherJacketSeller: Why the close-up in this area?
(08:09:37 AM) Verrk: do you think they will continue MI with those rights?
(08:09:39 AM) Cheeseness: Yeah, Steve licenced S&M to LucasArts
(08:09:42 AM) GrumpyGamer: Steve created those characters before coming to work at Lucas.
(08:09:46 AM) Scummbuddy: I don't mind this closer view. But I guess the surprise is more jarring for people.
(08:09:47 AM) johnny32: so... couldn't GrumpyGamer just lend them to Disney, the same way Telltale did to LucasArts?
(08:09:48 AM) GameClubFan_978391: is this the only time this close up stuff was used?
(08:09:51 AM) Lattsam: But does he own Hit the Road and freelance Police?
(08:09:54 AM) Gins: i used this closeup to model my guybrush costume when i was 8
(08:09:58 AM) happygamer: grumpygamer how come steve purcell still owns S&M? was he smarter than you?
(08:10:02 AM) johnny32: ugly guybrush here
(08:10:03 AM) Fireflower: Disney will make a Star Wars/Monkey Island/Sam & Max game
(08:10:04 AM) Tea: johnny32: No. Disney would have to lend them to GrumpyGamer.
(08:10:09 AM) mancombseepgood: But Steve Works for Pixar so more irony!
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(08:10:14 AM) Tea: johnny32: And since Disney are not nice people, they won't do that
(08:10:18 AM) johnny32: Tea that's what I wanted to mean, sorry
(08:10:18 AM) johnny32: :)
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(08:10:22 AM) ZombieAtPlay: I actually had the 'brush beard-and-pnytail at one time
(08:10:23 AM) Kalavinka: I think Steve didn't develop S&M as an employee of LA.
(08:10:24 AM) ZombieAtPlay: >.<
(08:10:25 AM) Flirbnic: The special editions of Monkey Island 1 and 2 have Sam and Max references removed because LucasArts no longer had the rights.
(08:10:29 AM) Smith: happygamer, are you high?
(08:10:32 AM) Rojasono: The Mouse People aren't exactly known for looking out for the little folks lol
(08:10:32 AM) geecko: GrumpyGamer, if Disney were to ask you to make a new MI without giving you property of MI, would you accept ?
(08:10:33 AM) johnny32: Tea yeah well, fuck Disney....
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(08:10:34 AM) GrumpyGamer: Steve created S&M before he came to Lucas.
(08:10:39 AM) Lattsam: Yeah, because Disney's too mean to allow remakes of Ducktales and Castle of Illusion
(08:10:40 AM) happygamer: okay
(08:10:40 AM) OzzieMonkey: Problem with licensing them to GrumpyGamer is that tell him how to make it and restrict his creativity, and that would not be good
(08:10:50 AM) Verrk: what would be the worst thing for disney to do with their rights for MI?
(08:10:51 AM) GrumpyGamer: No, I would not make another MI unless I own the IP.
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(08:10:53 AM) Lattsam: (that was sarcasm)
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(08:11:09 AM) AnarkiJ: Plus they would likely not reveal the price of the liscense because disney doesn't sell them to anyone
(08:11:09 AM) GameClubFan_978391: love the art here
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(08:11:13 AM) Sinsinstudio: How much for IP#
(08:11:13 AM) ZombieAtPlay: Monky Island Babies Verrk
(08:11:21 AM) fibrousmen: Anyone who kickstarted DFA for 30 bucks would surely drop 100 for Ron (I can't be alone here)
(08:11:29 AM) happygamer: grumpygamer just rename all names and do it!
(08:11:31 AM) FirstWorldProblems: I can't believe I bought a toaster with no bagel setting.
(08:11:32 AM) Fireflower: How much does the IP for MI cost?
(08:11:34 AM) johnny32: cmon, let us gather the money for you to buy the IP...
(08:11:44 AM) thorw4ld: i would drop a thousand..
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(08:11:45 AM) johnny32: crowdfunding or something
(08:11:46 AM) AnarkiJ: They would never sell the license the whole time they can make money for nothing off of it
(08:11:47 AM) SirLemonhead: fibrousmen: more than that
(08:11:47 AM) fibrousmen: i mean 200
(08:11:47 AM) Gins: i'm in
(08:11:49 AM) Cheeseness: Lattsam: Disney's recent announcement of the Ducktales remake was a huge surprise. It's very unusual for them to consider giving attention to older IP
(08:11:51 AM) Verrk: I'm thinking a Johnny Depp Guybrush
(08:11:51 AM) fibrousmen: 300
(08:11:52 AM) geecko: GrumpyGamer : Alright. Would you consider using KickStarters to collect the money to buy the IP ?
(08:11:53 AM) Lattsam: If you make enough you can buy the Freelance Police rights as well
(08:11:54 AM) happygamer: I'm in 200
(08:12:05 AM) FirstWorldProblems: I would chip in too
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(08:12:09 AM) Gins: for me at least 100
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(08:12:15 AM) johnny32: Johnny Depp? I always thought Orlando Bloom would be the perfect Guybrush actor :D
(08:12:24 AM) happygamer: 200 average times 100,000 = 10,000,000
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(08:12:26 AM) Scummbuddy: Great book joke there.
(08:12:27 AM) Zonr_0: haha, dat joke.
(08:12:31 AM) Stanismyhero: Orlando Bloom is a MI fan or so I've heard
(08:12:32 AM) Flirbnic: Orlando Bloom is SMI Guybrush, and Johnny Depp is MI2 Guybrush
(08:12:33 AM) Tehed: I don't think, Kickstarter would allow that kind of thing - unless there's a project happening with those IPs directly after the purchase
(08:12:34 AM) happygamer: sorry 20,000,000
(08:12:35 AM) Tea: Orlando Bloom and "perfect actor" do not belong in the same sentence
(08:12:44 AM) Gins: yes, bloom in some scenes looks like guybrush
(08:12:49 AM) geecko: Tehed : good point
(08:12:49 AM) GrumpyGamer: I don't think KS allows for that.
(08:12:51 AM) mancombseepgood: I always thought Topher Grace wouldn't be bad as Guybrush
(08:12:51 AM) Benjy: Good way to avoid the horrible closeup on the fatty guy :)
(08:12:55 AM) NattyDreads: If I ever struck it rich, i'd buy them and hand them over directly to Ron.  He'd have to give up one of his lego pirate ships as a fair trade though.
(08:12:57 AM) johnny32: Tea hahahaha
(08:13:10 AM) johnny32: Yes!
(08:13:12 AM) Gins: KS doesn't allow for charity projects and "fund-my-life" either
(08:13:15 AM) johnny32: There WAS a close up in MI2
(08:13:16 AM) Sinsinstudio: Ron its been an absolute pleasure .. thanks for taking the time to answer my questions   I have to go but I look forward to reading your next Blog
(08:13:18 AM) Tea: I can scowl harder than Bloom. They should have hired me to be Legolas.
(08:13:19 AM) OzzieMonkey: NattyDreads: Absolutely
(08:13:20 AM) johnny32: The governor one
(08:13:22 AM) Samari: I imagine any negotiation with Disney would preclude GrumpGamer from disclosing the price they want
(08:13:25 AM) happygamer: grumpygamer than say you want to produce pencils with the money *wink*
(08:13:29 AM) Gins: and yet kenzie wilson got 22.000 for going to an RPG camp
(08:13:29 AM) Lattsam: That waterfall is cool looking
(08:13:29 AM) FirstWorldProblems: no shiraz so had to use merlot in the beef bourguignon.
(08:13:30 AM) Fireflower: monkey wrench time
(08:13:30 AM) Gins: so yea
(08:13:32 AM) AnarkiJ: There isn't a single actor in all of hollywood that could convincingly do guybrush, don't even joke
(08:13:38 AM) Flirbnic: I think I would be a good Guybrush. I'd seriously consider auditioning if the opportunity presented itself :P
(08:13:44 AM) SirLemonhead: AnarkiJ: Tom Cruise?
(08:13:47 AM) Stanismyhero: No
(08:13:47 AM) johnny32: aaaaand here it is, the monkey wrench joke
(08:13:52 AM) Smith: Grumpygamer, do you still enjoy coding and if so which languages are you partial to?
(08:13:54 AM) Scummbuddy: Dominic Armato looks good enough for it for me
(08:13:54 AM) foffing: so long farewell au vitersein goodnight.
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(08:14:04 AM) AnarkiJ: You can't be serious,
(08:14:04 AM) TimeGentleman: Bit of foreshadowing there? "What's this doing in a pirate game"
(08:14:07 AM) Gins: according to kickstarter, the worth and validity of a KS project is determined by the money people throw at it.
(08:14:13 AM) GrumpyGamer: I love to program.  I do mainly objective-c and c/c++
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(08:14:22 AM) SirLemonhead: i'm trying to somewhat ignore the gameplay..i want to replay the game but not remember the puzzles :P
(08:14:28 AM) ***Zonr_0 highfives GrumpyGamer.
(08:14:34 AM) Flirbnic: Dominic Armato's Guybrush was a very different character from the first two games. It was a fantastic character, just very different.
(08:14:42 AM) FirstWorldProblems: Can't get the license to Monkey #firstworldproblems
(08:14:42 AM) GameClubFan_651079: GrumpyGamer Some aspects of iMUSE are being emulated on modern games using canned audio, such as mixing between different arrangements. But because it still is canned audio, it can be awkward and limited to work with. Do you think real time music synthesis in games is part of a bygone era?
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(08:14:47 AM) Rojasono: I'm mainly here because... well, Ron's here lol
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(08:14:58 AM) jojo_: Can you explain what the best way to use delegates in objective-c
(08:14:59 AM) GrumpyGamer: I think it is.
(08:15:02 AM) johnny32: I know by heart all the puzzles of this game. It's kinda sad because it doesn't impress me anymore...
(08:15:10 AM) Lattsam: Lot of old men with hearing problems in this game lol
(08:15:11 AM) SirLemonhead: haha get yer horn out ;)
(08:15:16 AM) GrumpyGamer: I never use delegates.
(08:15:17 AM) Gins: yea me too
(08:15:19 AM) mancombseepgood: GrumpyGamer: Did you know or work with anyone from ILM during your time at LA?
(08:15:20 AM) johnny32: In fact, the last 2 or 3 times I've played it I've done it in... about an hour or so
(08:15:21 AM) kisak: This guy is horny
(08:15:22 AM) Schmuhf: When I was on that island back in the day, I thought a bug had mixed to music tracks
(08:15:22 AM) GrumpyGamer: I hate the,.
(08:15:25 AM) happygamer: grumpygamer do you love to program or do you love to program games?
(08:15:27 AM) lfcorreia: GrumpyGamer, that red travelling line is a clear joke on the Indiana Jones games and movie, right?
(08:15:29 AM) Stanismyhero: Pick up Kate...
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(08:15:37 AM) SirLemonhead: johnny32: i know them pretty well too. ive not played the game in a few years on purpose to try forget
(08:15:42 AM) Cheeseness: I love this guy
(08:15:53 AM) jojo_: GrumpyGamer: Yes! Exactly i never use them either
(08:15:56 AM) GrumpyGamer: Yes, that was from the Indy moves nd game.
(08:15:58 AM) TimeGentleman: One blind guy in MI1, two deaf guys in MI2...
(08:15:58 AM) johnny32: SirLemonhead yeah, that's what I'm going to have to do...
(08:16:05 AM) NattyDreads: I wanted to buy everything in here
(08:16:06 AM) Lattsam: If it isn't sold at this store, it probably doesn't exist!
(08:16:10 AM) Scummbuddy: Yes, pick up Kate
(08:16:12 AM) Gins: there could have been a monocle for sale in here...
(08:16:18 AM) ZombieAtPlay: TimeGentlemen Plus Wally
(08:16:22 AM) TimeGentleman: Three mute guys in MI3a?
(08:16:24 AM) johnny32: Well, there's always a part on this game that I forget
(08:16:36 AM) GameClubFan_978391: was the mirror effect difficult to do?
(08:16:45 AM) NattyDreads: love the sam and max in joke here
(08:16:46 AM) johnny32: it's one of the library books, the one that help the Voodoo Lady to make the love bomb for Wally
(08:16:56 AM) NattyDreads: i think it's DotT now though
(08:17:00 AM) Zonr_0: "I don't want to wear this...right now."
(08:17:02 AM) SirLemonhead: i don't remember the library books thing
(08:17:03 AM) Stanismyhero: yeah they changed it
(08:17:03 AM) johnny32: but aside from that, I know it by heart
(08:17:08 AM) GrumpyGamer: Doesn't MI2 feel like a bigger game than MI1?
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(08:17:16 AM) Zonr_0: Mi2 feels huge
(08:17:18 AM) Stanismyhero: MI2 felt a lot longer
(08:17:19 AM) happygamer: mi2 WAS bigger
(08:17:20 AM) yama: GrumpyGamer, was the parrot in The Cave a homage to the parrot in MI2?
(08:17:20 AM) Gins: it does
(08:17:22 AM) Tea: huuuuuge
(08:17:23 AM) Rojasono: MI2 feels way bigger
(08:17:24 AM) Flirbnic: It is a bigger game... More islands, more stuff.
(08:17:25 AM) Cheeseness: I love that moose
(08:17:25 AM) Cheeseness: :D
(08:17:28 AM) GameClubFan_978391: much bigger
(08:17:29 AM) johnny32: it's the book that the governor has in its belly
(08:17:30 AM) johnny32: i think
(08:17:30 AM) Stanismyhero: Spent much more time on MI2 than MI
(08:17:36 AM) johnny32: mmmm
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(08:17:38 AM) johnny32: i'm not sure now
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(08:17:46 AM) happygamer: monkey island 3a: the car ride home
(08:17:51 AM) happygamer: my suggestion
(08:17:56 AM) johnny32: no, the one with the governor is the pirate phrases one
(08:17:58 AM) GrumpyGamer: First time you every played MI2, how long did it take to finish?
(08:17:59 AM) GameClubFan_978391: lol happy thats great
(08:18:03 AM) japro: after spending like one week on melee island the concept of there being multiple island completely blew my mind back in the time
(08:18:05 AM) Flirbnic: Guybrush is really good at being insufferable
(08:18:06 AM) Gins: years
(08:18:09 AM) happygamer: I don't remember
(08:18:13 AM) johnny32: the one u need to open rapp's coffin
(08:18:13 AM) fibrousmen: a month? thanks hotline!
(08:18:14 AM) happygamer: weeks
(08:18:14 AM) GameClubFan_978391: a month or two?
(08:18:15 AM) TimeGentleman: Especially rooms/puzzles like the library with its filing system and the shop here with all its stuff make the game feel bigger/deeper
(08:18:16 AM) Tea: GrumpyGamer: A few weeks. I was 7.
(08:18:18 AM) Lattsam: Flirbnic I HAVE to learn his secret!
(08:18:18 AM) Gins: i was too young to legitimately solve it :(
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(08:18:20 AM) GameClubFan_165067: months
(08:18:21 AM) Stanismyhero: Can't remember, probably a year or two
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(08:18:23 AM) Gins: so i used a walkthrough
(08:18:26 AM) TimeGentleman: Plus it's a little less linear, I think
(08:18:28 AM) SirLemonhead: I played easy mode first..months though for hard
(08:18:29 AM) johnny32: GrumpyGamer I was 6, it took me 7 or 8 months...
(08:18:30 AM) Stanismyhero: I was too young to solve it for a while
(08:18:33 AM) Lattsam: That girl's a goddess
(08:18:34 AM) geecko: GrumpyGamer : Monkey Island is one of the very first games I ever played (Fate of Atlantis being the first). And to be here chatting with you about the future of MI... Man it's a dream come true! I just wanted to tell you I'm a big fan of your work, sir. :) -Guillaume from Brussels, Belgium
(08:18:36 AM) Verrk: grumpygamer, where would you see yourself if you didn't go for creating games? writing novels?
(08:18:38 AM) johnny32: back in 1996
(08:18:40 AM) fibrousmen: I did MI lite as a kid, the other version was too hard until I was ana dult
(08:18:40 AM) GameClubFan_978391: i did a speedrun of MI1 when i was 12 and did 3 and half hours
(08:18:43 AM) Stanismyhero: Pick up Kate!
(08:18:44 AM) OzzieMonkey: Probably took me a few days
(08:18:45 AM) SirLemonhead: i remember myself and a friend playing it at the time..getting stuck and phoning each other to ask if the other person had got further than the other
(08:18:46 AM) Rojasono: Super lucky name for a sea captain: Capsize
(08:18:48 AM) AnarkiJ: Played with my Dad when I was younger, took us some months, until I played through it on my own, I think it took 3 or 4 days first time through.
(08:18:48 AM) GrumpyGamer: Thanks!
(08:18:49 AM) Scummbuddy: @GameClubFan_978391 I believe the sprite for the parrot extended to the mirror, so it's not hard to mirror.
(08:18:53 AM) Cheeseness: GrumpyGamer: Kate here is a refrence to Capshaw, right?
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(08:18:56 AM) Danaroth: I really like the openess of the island, it's something that seems to be almost disappeared in modern AGs
(08:18:57 AM) Lattsam: Stanismyhero Okay, but be gentle
(08:18:58 AM) johnny32: fibrousmen I've always found harder the lite version than the normal
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(08:19:03 AM) NattyDreads: Took me a good solid month.  I was very young though and happy to figure it out without hints.
(08:19:04 AM) GrumpyGamer: Yes, she was.  :-)
(08:19:13 AM) johnny32: same happens with the easy version of mi3...
(08:19:19 AM) michiel: GrumpyGamer: Why are there so few women in the MI universe?
(08:19:28 AM) Cheeseness: Indiana Jones actress and Spielberg's wife
(08:19:31 AM) Tea: GrumpyGamer: When my sister first showed me I thought the objective was to shoot Guybrush because the cursor looked like a target. So MI1 took a bit longer.
(08:19:36 AM) Tea: WHY CAN'T I SHOOT HIM!
(08:19:37 AM) GameClubFan_978391: ron what does this time to complete info mean to you?
(08:19:39 AM) Schmuhf: Does anyone know the flash thing on newgrounds.com where guybrush started to strip to the song "Hot Chocolate - You Sexy Thing" in front of Kate?
(08:19:44 AM) Flirbnic: It takes place in a very patriarchal era of history
(08:19:46 AM) johnny32: it took me 7 months the first time, and 5 of those I was stuck at the jail :(
(08:19:51 AM) happygamer: kate is hot
(08:19:54 AM) Stanismyhero: It took me ten years (with a long time in between) to finally complete Fate of Atlantis
(08:19:57 AM) Lattsam: Stan!
(08:19:58 AM) Rojasono: Stan!
(08:20:01 AM) happygamer: stan!
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(08:20:02 AM) Gins: stan!
(08:20:02 AM) johnny32: Stan!!
(08:20:03 AM) deadmau3: a year
(08:20:04 AM) Stanismyhero: Stan!
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(08:20:07 AM) OzzieMonkey: Schmuhf: Yes, that was so funny
(08:20:07 AM) Cheeseness: GrumpyGamer: How do you feel about Stan's voice here?
(08:20:07 AM) Anon: Stan!!!
(08:20:08 AM) Kalavinka: STANNN
(08:20:09 AM) GrumpyGamer: I love Stan
(08:20:13 AM) Gins: is stan based on someone?
(08:20:13 AM) Stanismyhero: Stannnn
(08:20:19 AM) happygamer: grumpygamer who's idea was stan?
(08:20:19 AM) johnny32: I love his jacket
(08:20:23 AM) Cheeseness: I wish somebody would make clothes like that
(08:20:25 AM) johnny32: the way the squares don't moveç
(08:20:28 AM) Kalavinka: wow, he has a completely different voice in the italian version.
(08:20:31 AM) Gins: i wonder what stan would sell in MI3a..
(08:20:34 AM) fibrousmen: I always imagined a more southern accent (looks like a cowboy hat)
(08:20:36 AM) Danaroth: does that count the 10-mistake of Atlantides?
(08:20:38 AM) ZombieAtPlay: I wonder how long it took Telltale to get his jacket right
(08:20:39 AM) Tea: dat music
(08:20:43 AM) Tea: dat mt-32
(08:20:43 AM) GameClubFan_978391: stans jacket is from the carnival dimenson
(08:20:45 AM) Lattsam: He'd sell iceboxes to Eskimos
(08:20:46 AM) Tea: dat michael land
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(08:20:54 AM) johnny32: the secret of monkey island is stan's jacket
(08:20:59 AM) deadmau3: how do you even get used coffins?
(08:20:59 AM) mancombseepgood: GrumpyGamer: Was their ever talk of doing a voice track for the original games or was disk space to prohibitive to even consider it?
(08:21:00 AM) GrumpyGamer: The squares don't move because Steve Purcell was lazy!  :-)
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(08:21:02 AM) interceptor: GrumpyGamer did you at any point try to animate the stan jacket for real?
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(08:21:06 AM) Benjy: @GrumpyGamer was the fixed texture on Stan's jacket hard to achieve? (like with an alpha layer?)
(08:21:10 AM) happygamer: lol
(08:21:12 AM) NattyDreads: I wonder what Stan would have been selling in the original idea for MI3
(08:21:13 AM) Tea: GrumpyGamer: Tell Michael the internet says thanks
(08:21:14 AM) GameClubFan_978391: dat lazyness >>
(08:21:15 AM) Flirbnic: When I was a kid I thought Stan's hat was a sombrero, so I imagined he was Mexican
(08:21:16 AM) geecko: We put the fun in funerals. Jesus :D
(08:21:17 AM) SirLemonhead: GrumpyGamer: that graphical effect of Stans jacket is fantastic
(08:21:17 AM) Simounet: GrumpyGamer > I think Saul of Breaking Bad is a new version of Stan from MI ! :D
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(08:21:21 AM) Rojasono: Purcell's laziness turned out to be quite amusing though lol
(08:21:22 AM) happygamer: fun in funerals, big bang theory stole that joke
(08:21:31 AM) johnny32: Simounet hahahahahaha yes!!
(08:21:33 AM) SirLemonhead: very psychadelic :)
(08:21:33 AM) Smith: grumpygamer, were there ever Japanese localisations of any lucas adventures?
(08:21:37 AM) Kalavinka: I guess "fun in funerals" is one of those jokes that work better unvoiced
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(08:21:41 AM) AnarkiJ: Ron, if I remember right you never played Curse of Monkey Island? It was the only MI game made that you didn't work on I thought was any good
(08:21:46 AM) geecko: Simounet : YES !
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(08:21:51 AM) GrumpyGamer: I don't there there were.
(08:22:03 AM) Tea: You heard it here first, folks.
(08:22:05 AM) GrumpyGamer: I've played Curse.
(08:22:09 AM) Scummbuddy: @Smith, there were FMTowns versions of LucasArts games
(08:22:12 AM) Tea: Ron Gilbert don't there there were.
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(08:22:20 AM) GrumpyGamer: I've only played a few hours of Escape.
(08:22:21 AM) GameClubFan_978391: have you played escape?
(08:22:22 AM) happygamer: he hasn't played mi4
AnarkiJ anaxias Anon
(08:22:25 AM) GameClubFan_978391: ah ok
AnarkiJ anaxias
(08:22:29 AM) Scummbuddy: Dont
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(08:22:41 AM) GameClubFan_978391: ron are you a fan of murry?
(08:22:41 AM) Stanismyhero: MI4 is like Godfather III
(08:22:43 AM) Smith: scummbuddy, oh cool
(08:22:50 AM) GrumpyGamer: I like Murry
(08:22:53 AM) geecko: The end of Escape is pathetic
(08:22:56 AM) Gins: i think the secret is that ron was jealous that they found out the secret all by themselves without his help: the giant monkey robot
(08:23:01 AM) NattyDreads: all of escape is pathetic
(08:23:03 AM) OzzieMonkey: Murray is the best character in Curse
(08:23:04 AM) happygamer: grumpygamer everyone likes murray
(08:23:04 AM) Cheeseness: GrumpyGamer: Escape's got a pretty big barrier to entry, but it's got some good parts and I've found it to be pretty underrated
(08:23:08 AM) Kalavinka: I don't even remember the end of Escale
(08:23:09 AM) Kalavinka: *pe
(08:23:10 AM) happygamer: because he is like guybrush
(08:23:13 AM) SirLemonhead: i never got past more than 2-3 hours of MI4
(08:23:15 AM) GameClubFan_978391: murry fits
(08:23:19 AM) AnarkiJ: Murray was the most worthwhile addition to Curse. I don't know how they managed to ruin him in escape
(08:23:19 AM) Flirbnic: I thought the giant monkey robot was cringeworthy.
(08:23:20 AM) johnny32: curse was good, but the end was a little bit precipitate
(08:23:21 AM) GrumpyGamer: I just couldn't take the 3D
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(08:23:26 AM) Lattsam: Escape's still better than Telltale's Sam and Max games though
(08:23:26 AM) Flirbnic: It was like... trying way too hard to be zany.
(08:23:27 AM) TuybrushGhreepwood: Kalavinka: Better that way. :)
(08:23:28 AM) SirLemonhead: keyboard control always felt like a step backwards
(08:23:30 AM) SirLemonhead: as did the 3D
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(08:23:32 AM) johnny32: due to disk space
(08:23:32 AM) GameClubFan_978391: a lot of the other non ron characters kinda dont
(08:23:39 AM) johnny32: they had to cut one of the final cutscenes
(08:23:42 AM) johnny32: before the rollercoaster
(08:23:43 AM) Tea: GrumpyGamer: Did you have the same problem with Grim Fandango?
(08:23:45 AM) happygamer: murray is like guybrush, he wants to be something he is not
(08:23:47 AM) Gins: i love this puzzle
(08:23:48 AM) johnny32: and it felt a little odd
(08:23:54 AM) Scummbuddy: Is that Inigo Montoya running the game?
(08:23:56 AM) NattyDreads: This password system stumped me for a week.
(08:23:58 AM) Fireflower: backstreet gambling
(08:23:58 AM) Anon: MI3 was fun but the engagement story was silly and I didn't like that Governor Marley needed to be rescued. :P
(08:24:02 AM) Stanismyhero: I hated the password
(08:24:03 AM) Gins: GrumpyGamer: did you invent this finger puzzle or take it from somewhere?
(08:24:07 AM) SirLemonhead: I haven't really played Grim Fandango myself, which would shock a lot of people
(08:24:08 AM) johnny32: omg
(08:24:11 AM) Flirbnic: Agreed, Anon
(08:24:13 AM) johnny32: one of the cleverest puzzles ever
(08:24:13 AM) happygamer: i think tim schafer did the password puzzle
(08:24:20 AM) johnny32: if this is 4, this is...
(08:24:22 AM) johnny32: your hand?
(08:24:22 AM) Syd: Confession time: I used to guess my way through this password puzzle
(08:24:24 AM) GrumpyGamer: Guybrush and Elaine would NEVER have gotten married.
(08:24:24 AM) Lattsam: But once you figure this puzzle out, it's easy!
(08:24:25 AM) johnny32: hahahaha loved it
(08:24:25 AM) Kalavinka: I think the most tragic thing is that MI4 was the first game that I was old enough to solve all by myself
(08:24:26 AM) Syd: When I figured it out, I felt so stupid
(08:24:31 AM) OzzieMonkey: Gins: Tim said it was a game he and his brother played or something
(08:24:35 AM) fibrousmen: Id like the think GrumpyGamer is taking pages of notes right now
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(08:24:36 AM) GameClubFan_978391: why not ron?
(08:24:37 AM) happygamer: elaine is too smart for that
(08:24:44 AM) Anon: grumpygamer: I loved that in M1 & 2 Elaine never needed Guybrush to save her. It made all the diff to a little girl playing the game. :)
(08:24:54 AM) Gins: ah cool, so tim('s brother?) invented it or they got it from somewhere.
(08:25:01 AM) deadmau3: most marriages end up in a divorce anyway, ron
(08:25:09 AM) Danaroth: I wonder if 3D also destroyed grim fandango for me, since I didn't enjoy it all that much
(08:25:12 AM) OzzieMonkey: The guy's name is BRUNO?
(08:25:16 AM) GameClubFan_978391: this hand wouldn't work in 3D
(08:25:18 AM) Stanismyhero: Forgot that lol
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(08:25:31 AM) AnarkiJ: Big respect to Dave Grossman, I think he still did a great job with Curse. Ever think you'll get the chance to work with him again?
(08:25:32 AM) happygamer: why is the door so big?
(08:25:35 AM) johnny32: everyone sees Elaine as one of the main characters of the series, but if you look carefully, you see that she's just a background character in this game
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(08:25:47 AM) johnny32: she only appears in a couple of scenes
(08:25:49 AM) Scummbuddy: @happygamer To fit Bruno behind it
(08:25:51 AM) Lattsam: grumpygamer have you ever sold any fine leather jackets?
(08:25:53 AM) GrumpyGamer: Dave didn't work on Curse.
(08:25:58 AM) AnarkiJ: Did he not?
(08:26:00 AM) Tehed: Damnit, those were great puzzles. We played those games with 2-3 people sitting in front of the pc trying to solve them.
(08:26:02 AM) AnarkiJ: that is a big surprise
(08:26:12 AM) mancombseepgood: I'm outta here. Thanks GrumpyGamer for taking the time to chat. The Monkey Island games were so well thought through, fun and funny! Hopefully we'll see some more...
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(08:26:15 AM) Flirbnic: Most characters other than Guybrush are background characters
(08:26:17 AM) Anon: deadmau3 I could totally see them eloping on a grog-fulled whim and then getting an annulment; but that's it
(08:26:20 AM) happygamer: have you ever said to dave: "that's gross, man!" ??
(08:26:30 AM) GrumpyGamer: Dave wrote Pajama Sam for me at Humongous Entertainment.
(08:26:30 AM) AnarkiJ: I always remembered seeing his name in the credits but that's obviously a delusion
(08:26:37 AM) johnny32: the secret of monkey island is the circus ticket!
(08:26:40 AM) GameClubFan_747004: twitch keep the record. a masterpiece played by the master himself
(08:26:44 AM) GameClubFan_978391: this puzzle blew my mind as a kid
(08:26:53 AM) Kalavinka: Elaine and Guybrush's relationship is about as mature as Finn and Bubblegum's on Adventure Time
(08:27:00 AM) Smith: grumpygamer, are you subscribed to Dave's weekly poetry list?
(08:27:04 AM) GrumpyGamer: I think Dave came up with this puzzle.
(08:27:10 AM) GrumpyGamer: Yep
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(08:27:17 AM) OzzieMonkey: I like the way the marriage was handled in Tales, it worked for me
(08:27:19 AM) AnarkiJ: Still I didn't know that about pyjama sam though, thanks for setting me straight ron!
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(08:27:34 AM) Tea: OzzieMonkey: Could have done without the rutting with LeChuck though
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(08:27:39 AM) fibrousmen: still bothered by RED/BLACK not being the colors of the wheel
(08:27:45 AM) Stanismyhero: Yeah lol
(08:27:47 AM) happygamer: lol
(08:27:51 AM) GrumpyGamer: funny
(08:27:51 AM) johnny32: hahah
(08:27:52 AM) SirLemonhead: i never noticed. haha
(08:27:54 AM) Kalavinka: red or... tan?
(08:27:55 AM) geecko: GrumpyGamer : Do you plan on including some MI easter eggs in Scurvy Scallywags (your next game), which is also about pirates ?
(08:27:56 AM) GameClubFan_794944: ron, have you played deponia?
(08:27:59 AM) SirLemonhead: magic monkey island pants :D
(08:28:03 AM) Fireflower: that kid sure is lucky
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(08:28:07 AM) Flirbnic: The secret of Monkey Island is that when the narrative is placed into the context of the metanarrative of a child's imagination, it becomes no more or less real, since the metanarrative itself is equally fictional
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(08:28:10 AM) Cheeseness: GrumpyGamer: What do you think of game jams as a way of exploring game concepts the way that Double Fine do?
(08:28:11 AM) GrumpyGamer: Yes, there is one big easter egg.
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(08:28:13 AM) Flirbnic: It's really postmodern
(08:28:16 AM) johnny32: where are u going?
(08:28:17 AM) happygamer: pirates!
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(08:28:21 AM) TimeGentleman: Too slow, Syd, Ralphie beat ya!
(08:28:22 AM) Lattsam: The secret of Monkey Island is whatever you want it to be
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(08:28:29 AM) GrumpyGamer: I love rapid prototyping.
(08:28:37 AM) Stanismyhero: Il n'a pas dehors texte
(08:28:45 AM) geecko: Well I'll have to wait for the Android port of the game :p
(08:28:47 AM) Tea: RAPID PROTOTYPING
(08:28:49 AM) OzzieMonkey: I like the idea of the secret being a new one in each game
(08:28:52 AM) Flirbnic: The secret of Monkey Island is that the monkey head is a gateway to the underworld itself
(08:28:56 AM) NattyDreads: I just always assumed the secret of monkey island was that it existed in general
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(08:29:08 AM) happygamer: grumpygamer how much in advance do you plan your future?
(08:29:10 AM) Kalavinka: I thought it was a "generic title" joke
(08:29:11 AM) Flirbnic: The secret of Monkey Island is its location--remember that it required magic to find
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(08:29:23 AM) Gins: yeah it's funny
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(08:29:25 AM) Kalavinka: like "the SECRET of... the MYSTERY of... <place/person name>"
(08:29:27 AM) GrumpyGamer: I never know what I'm doing tomorrow.
(08:29:35 AM) AnarkiJ: Pretty sure Ron always said he'd take the secret to his grave, that is if he isn't lying and there was never a secret
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(08:29:45 AM) Cheeseness: I think it's pretty neat that DF have made some of those prototypes available - it's fantastic to see ideas that might not go anywhere (it's sad for stuff like that to never see the light of day)
(08:29:45 AM) Gins: without all the discussion about the secret, i'd probably think it's just the catacombs or something
(08:29:46 AM) OzzieMonkey: I never quite understood why the ending to MI2 is theorised to be connected to the secret
(08:29:46 AM) Scummbuddy: Ron, always an adventurer!
(08:29:48 AM) johnny32: The secret is that GrumpyGamer will always keep it for himself. And that's good. :)
(08:29:50 AM) Flirbnic: The secret of Monkey Island is... Ron's body!
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(08:29:58 AM) Flirbnic: He will take it to the grave.
(08:30:05 AM) TimeGentleman: Ok, we all have to help Syd remember the number this time!
(08:30:09 AM) Lattsam: The secret of Monkey Island is... midichlorians!
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(08:30:10 AM) Lattsam: jk
(08:30:12 AM) jojo_: Haha
(08:30:14 AM) Cheeseness: Simski in Twitch chat (whom I haven't been able to convince to join us here) says hi
(08:30:17 AM) Rojasono: Ron engraved the secret on his left kidney :o
(08:30:18 AM) happygamer: grumpygamer so you're a modern cowboy = lonley programmer
(08:30:21 AM) Syd: 17 Black, I got it this time. :P
(08:30:21 AM) Kalavinka: don't mess up Syd!
(08:30:29 AM) GrumpyGamer: The ending of MI2 does connect to the secret, but not in the way most people assume.
(08:30:32 AM) TimeGentleman: 17 BLACK SYD!
(08:30:33 AM) Tea: Rojasono: ENGRAVED? Ouch.
(08:30:34 AM) Tea: Ouch.
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(08:30:39 AM) Lattsam: 17 BLACK FTW
(08:30:45 AM) Rojasono: He's manly like that :D
(08:30:46 AM) johnny32: omg
(08:30:51 AM) johnny32: a clue for the secret!
(08:31:02 AM) AnarkiJ: Oh Ron, while I remmeber, any chance of you ever working on another Deathspank title?
(08:31:04 AM) TimeGentleman: grumpygamer obviously this puzzle is STILL too tough!
(08:31:09 AM) Flirbnic: The secret of Monkey Island is that it's like...a bottle that holds back all the evil in the world. And Herman Toothrot is the cork.
(08:31:11 AM) Stanismyhero: Phew
(08:31:16 AM) GrumpyGamer: BANANA! Think about it.
(08:31:21 AM) Fireflower: i want a piece of eight
(08:31:23 AM) Lattsam: YAYZ
(08:31:25 AM) Gins: it's a hint!
(08:31:25 AM) happygamer: grumpygamer what other worlds than pirates did you consider before starting?
(08:31:26 AM) Kalavinka: mmm, banana
(08:31:29 AM) Gins: hm.
(08:31:34 AM) Scummbuddy: Ugh, the whole "Herman Marley" thing...
(08:31:34 AM) Gins: what if guybrush really is a  banana?
(08:31:35 AM) fibrousmen: upset that I was eating a Banana when grumpygamer first said that
(08:31:41 AM) Gins: what consequences would that have?
(08:31:46 AM) GrumpyGamer: None other than Pirates.
(08:31:47 AM) Gins: on the way we perceive the world..
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(08:31:48 AM) Lattsam: Why not all three?
(08:31:51 AM) OzzieMonkey: Maybe he's referring to the PEALING of a banana
(08:31:56 AM) GameClubFan_747004: it's a pretty shame that almost none of german gaming sites (news, tests etc) announce such streams
(08:32:00 AM) Cheeseness: happygamer: I think the pirate inspiration came before the game :)
(08:32:01 AM) GrumpyGamer: There were a couple of other games I was playing around with at the time.
(08:32:01 AM) Kalavinka: argh, Herman marley
(08:32:04 AM) geecko: GrumpyGamer : What has motivated you to make your next game on iOS ? How come you haven't made any point 'n click game since you left LucasArts ?
(08:32:07 AM) OzzieMonkey: we have to peal back the many layers of context...ok I'm getting too deep
(08:32:13 AM) Tea: "Threepwood" is Jamaican slang for "banana tree"
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(08:32:29 AM) OzzieMonkey: Tea: what...
(08:32:30 AM) Smith: the putt putt games?
(08:32:34 AM) GameClubFan_966748: oh
(08:32:35 AM) johnny32: Poor Cpt Kate...
(08:32:38 AM) GameClubFan_966748: IT'S THE DELUXE VERSION
(08:32:39 AM) GameClubFan_966748: WHAT
(08:32:40 AM) GrumpyGamer: I spend 99% of my time playing iOS games.  Make what you play… as they say.
(08:32:43 AM) Tea: OzzieMonkey: And if it isn't! It should be!
(08:32:53 AM) Stanismyhero: Poor Kate
(08:32:57 AM) Rojasono: Why, yes, yes she's Guybrush Threepwood
(08:32:59 AM) Kalavinka: unusual
(08:33:01 AM) Lattsam: You dare put a LADY in PRISON?  How DARE you!  XD
(08:33:03 AM) NattyDreads: Was Monkey Island 3 ever slated? Was production ever started on it?
(08:33:05 AM) happygamer: lol
(08:33:05 AM) GameClubFan_966748: The random generating amazingly predicted my name
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(08:33:07 AM) johnny32: Guybrush is also a woman name lol
(08:33:09 AM) GameClubFan_966748: *name
(08:33:10 AM) OzzieMonkey: So many people thought Morgan Leflay was going to be Kate in Tales
(08:33:12 AM) GrumpyGamer: Plus there were all the Humongous Entertainment games.  All point and click games.
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(08:33:17 AM) GameClubFan_978391: where does guybrush live?
(08:33:17 AM) Gins: well you CAN get kate out of prison right
(08:33:19 AM) happygamer: ther is a monkey island 3
(08:33:21 AM) GameClubFan_747004: bejeweled hd =)
(08:33:24 AM) Cheeseness: More of Guybrush causing bad stuff to happen to people :D
(08:33:25 AM) Gins: so it's not as mean as with wally..
(08:33:31 AM) Tehed: Are the MI1+2 Special Editions on PC only available via Steam? Had it on iPad once, but I sold it and I'm thinking of getting it again on PC.
(08:33:33 AM) GrumpyGamer: Leflay is the name of my warlock in WoW.
(08:33:36 AM) GameClubFan_966748: I've actually never beaten this
(08:33:44 AM) GameClubFan_966748: Got stuck on this part
(08:33:50 AM) johnny32: Tehad I've got MI2SE for X360
(08:33:59 AM) happygamer: grumpygamer what's your favorite iOS game?
(08:34:00 AM) Anon: classy Guybrush; get Kate put in jail, take her belongings, and leave
(08:34:02 AM) Tea: pff WoW in 2013 get on the Runescape level, Ron
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(08:34:05 AM) Stanismyhero: lol
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(08:34:13 AM) GameClubFan_978391: ron does the secret involve guysbrushes backstory? origins?
(08:34:14 AM) Benjy: GrumpyGamer This may seem like a dumb question but... here it is: some games (Dooms, Quakes, Unreals or event Beneath a Steel Sky) release their engines' source codes -- do you know why something like SCUMM and its tools have never been made opensource (or licensed)?
(08:34:16 AM) Rojasono: You can get the Special Editions at gog.com too
(08:34:23 AM) GrumpyGamer: I like Nimble Quest.
(08:34:31 AM) Benjy: -t
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(08:34:37 AM) OzzieMonkey: Rohasono I don't think so...
(08:34:39 AM) Scummbuddy: @Benjy because they don't have to
(08:34:39 AM) deadmau3: grumpygamer why did you change the backround art for the tunnel between phatt and rum roger's island? i saw a version where it was a cave tunnel
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(08:34:49 AM) Cheeseness: GrumpyGamer: Have you interacted with Dom much at all? He seems like such a fan of the series
(08:34:58 AM) GrumpyGamer: Because LucasArts would never release anything to open source.
(08:35:00 AM) Tehed: Rojasono oh, awesome - didn't know that. Thanks
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(08:35:08 AM) geecko: Oh I hadn't heard of Humongous Entertainment. I'll check it out :p
(08:35:13 AM) Cheeseness: (Dom Armato being the voice of Guybrush post Monkey 2)
(08:35:16 AM) Tea: Benjy: ScummVM's code is a remake of the SCUMM engine. SCUMM is open source now through that.
(08:35:18 AM) GameClubFan_966748: especially they are owned by disney right
(08:35:21 AM) GrumpyGamer: I met him a PAX a few years ago.  Very cool guy(brush)
(08:35:22 AM) Rojasono: Sorry, I think I'm mistaken, after a quick search 1 minute ago
(08:35:22 AM) OzzieMonkey: Tehed: They're not, only Tales, Gog haven't managed to sign LucasArts...yet
(08:35:26 AM) Cheeseness: :D
(08:35:29 AM) NattyDreads: ba zing
(08:35:31 AM) Scummbuddy: @Cheese he's done all the games
(08:35:34 AM) Benjy: GrumpyGamer Thanks, I figured as much.
(08:35:36 AM) Anon: JOJO
(08:35:38 AM) Flirbnic: The secret of Monkey Island is that the island exists in all timelines, all stories, all at the same time. It is a nexus between worlds.
(08:35:39 AM) geecko: OH WOW, I did know Humongous Entertainment ! I played those games too as a child !
(08:35:39 AM) happygamer: grumpygamer did you sell your soul to the devil for monkey island?
(08:35:47 AM) Cheeseness: Scummbuddy: Monkey 1 and 2 weren't originally voiced
(08:35:50 AM) Lattsam: Jojo was a man who thought he was a loner
(08:35:54 AM) Stanismyhero: like this music
(08:35:58 AM) Tea: Benjy: https://github.com/scummvm/scummvm/tree/master/engines/scumm Here you go.
(08:35:59 AM) TimeGentleman: It's THAT puzzle...
(08:36:04 AM) Smith: grumpygamer, what do you think of all this free-to-play malarky on mobile platforms - are there any FTP models which you think work?
(08:36:06 AM) Lattsam: That One Puzzle
(08:36:09 AM) GameClubFan_496745: @grumpygamer To develop, did you just build on the framework of MI1 or was the whole thing coded up from scratch?
(08:36:10 AM) Scummbuddy: @Cheese Yeah,but he's voiced them all now
(08:36:11 AM) Cheeseness: Having Dom here in the special editions is a retrofit.
(08:36:13 AM) GrumpyGamer: I hate FTP
(08:36:13 AM) Ivory: grumpygamer What are your favorite game titles to play?
(08:36:14 AM) jojo_: Jojo!
(08:36:21 AM) Gins: so here is the connection between guybrush and bananas..
(08:36:22 AM) yama: I once thought I'd learn to play the piano because of this monkey. :D
(08:36:24 AM) GrumpyGamer: It destroys game design.
(08:36:28 AM) happygamer: I also hate ftp
(08:36:35 AM) interceptor: But NimbleQuest is FTP?
(08:36:35 AM) Benjy: Tea ScummVM is a "parser", you can't build a game with it ;) but you can try with ScummC (other project)
(08:36:36 AM) Flirbnic: yama, did you learn to play the monkey's piece?
(08:36:36 AM) Gins: as guybrush symbolically puts himself on the metronome...
(08:36:39 AM) happygamer: too much focus on the money
(08:36:40 AM) Gins: that means something
(08:36:41 AM) Tehed: oh, too bad. Thanks anyways. But I'll keep it on my watchlist on Steam for the time being :)
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(08:36:45 AM) Flirbnic: I did. Sadly I've forgotten how to play it. :(
(08:36:46 AM) GrumpyGamer: I've never spent money in it?
(08:36:50 AM) johnny32: hahaha
(08:36:52 AM) Rojasono: Truly sorry
(08:36:53 AM) AnarkiJ: Thanks Ron for being the only designer on the web to admit F2P sucks for a designer
(08:36:53 AM) GameClubFan_747004: the classic graphics works better for me... but the talkie is a benefit
(08:36:55 AM) johnny32: french? no, fictional
(08:36:56 AM) Scummbuddy: You should be able to get them on Direct2Drive
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(08:37:12 AM) fibrousmen: are the Scurvy Scallywags helping you cope with not having MI rights?
(08:37:12 AM) yama: Flirbnic, I did but it was so long ago that I've since forgotten. (I never learned anything else.)
(08:37:12 AM) Tea: Benjy: SCUMM is a parser. ScummVM remakes the whole shebang. It's a complete reimplementation of the original engine.
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(08:37:18 AM) GrumpyGamer: It's OK to charge players for extra stuff, but not to sell them a half finished game and make them pay for the rest.
(08:37:18 AM) Lattsam: Three colorful drinks!
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(08:37:22 AM) Tea: Benjy: ScummC comes from information taken from the ScummVM source.
(08:37:24 AM) Stanismyhero: Funny guy
(08:37:25 AM) Scummbuddy: @Tehed, MI on Direct2Drive
(08:37:27 AM) Cheeseness: GrumpyGamer: Did you write the drink jokes here? :D
(08:37:35 AM) Lattsam: Knowledge of the color wheel will help here!
(08:37:36 AM) Cheeseness: Also, I want to belong to whatever union he does
(08:37:43 AM) johnny32: well guys, i'm off to sleep. GrumpyGamer nice chatting with you :)
(08:37:49 AM) Cheeseness: Thanks for coming!
(08:37:49 AM) Anon: I wish all dive bars gave out crazy straws
(08:37:53 AM) GrumpyGamer: No.  I think this was Dave's room.  or it might have been Tims.  I forget.
(08:38:00 AM) GrumpyGamer: Nice chatting with you
(08:38:02 AM) TimeGentleman: Bartender sounds like Fred Willard
(08:38:03 AM) Kalavinka: me too Anon
(08:38:04 AM) AnarkiJ: Agreed, F2P is only a good thing for a publisher and bad for you and us customers
(08:38:07 AM) happygamer: why does the monkey need a metronome?
(08:38:07 AM) Cheeseness: Let's find out
(08:38:08 AM) Fireflower: i see a monkey for the monkey wrench
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(08:38:16 AM) Rojasono: Corporations are thinking more in terms of profit than integrity
(08:38:19 AM) Ivory: Everyone needs a metronome
(08:38:27 AM) happygamer: monkey wrench was my favorite puzzle
(08:38:30 AM) GameClubFan_978391: was MI2 a huge success on release? like a good first week?
(08:38:44 AM) Tea: The monkey wrench puzzle is the worst because to complete it you have to stop the monkey from playing :(
(08:38:49 AM) Lattsam: Like the storage bag commercial tells you, "Yellow and blue make green!"
(08:38:50 AM) GrumpyGamer: No, neither MI games did super well.
(08:38:54 AM) Gins: i know :(
(08:39:03 AM) Anon: Tea agreeed :( I always felt sad making the piano music stop
(08:39:06 AM) TimeGentleman: It freaks me out a little having all that broken glass in the inventory
(08:39:07 AM) Gins: it's like an anti-reward
(08:39:08 AM) Scummbuddy: That's shocking, Ron
(08:39:10 AM) geecko: The Monkey Wrench Puzzle was impossible to solve in the French version of the game, because it didn't make ANY SENSE :(
(08:39:16 AM) GameClubFan_747004: monkey wrench... in german "schraubenschlüssel", the hardest puzzle
(08:39:17 AM) Schmuhf: Kate has been released from jail rather quickly, huh?
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(08:39:27 AM) GameClubFan_747004: for an 13y old
(08:39:27 AM) Tea: Anon: I kept reloading the game before I put the banana up because I felt so bad :'(
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(08:39:32 AM) Cheeseness: It often seems like "important" games don't sell so well
(08:39:35 AM) TimeGentleman: This wind puzzle is tough but v clever
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(08:39:47 AM) Tehed: _747004 haha, in know that feel :)
(08:39:49 AM) GrumpyGamer: It took a while for the games to catch on.
(08:39:50 AM) AnarkiJ: Do you remember the rough sales of the MI games? I know they weren't expected to sell multi millions like current AAA titles, what was it expected to sell vs what it sold if you know/care
(08:39:50 AM) OzzieMonkey: The only reason I solved the Monkey wrench puzzle was because I heard of the term monkey wrench, even though I don't think we call them that here
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(08:39:57 AM) Ivory: grumpygamer Any other game you love to play besides Nimble Quest?
(08:40:02 AM) Anon: JUICIOUS MAXIMUS the third
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(08:40:04 AM) GrumpyGamer: They did very well in Germany, but not in the states.
(08:40:05 AM) GameClubFan_978391: were Lucas unhappy with MI2 sales in the short term?
(08:40:08 AM) Rojasono: I got MI1 after playing the shareware version
(08:40:11 AM) Gins: swish swish
(08:40:15 AM) happygamer: I'm from GERMANY
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(08:40:17 AM) Fireflower: :)
(08:40:17 AM) Cheeseness: GrumpyGamer: Have you played Ben There, Dan That or Time Gentlemen, Please?
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(08:40:19 AM) Scummbuddy: We got a third MI, so yes
(08:40:20 AM) GrumpyGamer: I don't know.  I left before then.
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(08:40:24 AM) happygamer: you're welcome ron
(08:40:33 AM) Simounet: Ah ah, I remember this moment ! I was young but it was so funny !
(08:40:34 AM) fibrousmen: whats the connection with Germany?
(08:40:35 AM) Tehed: Germans seem to like their adventures.
(08:40:36 AM) Stanismyhero: How well did they sell in the UK?
(08:40:40 AM) interceptor: is there a correct spit verb order? I don't remember...
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(08:40:47 AM) Tea: TimeGentleman is now holding his breath waiting for the answer to this one
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(08:40:48 AM) GrumpyGamer: I love Kindgom Rush
(08:40:53 AM) GrumpyGamer: *Kingdom
(08:41:00 AM) geecko: "How abotu blowing off" hahaha
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(08:41:16 AM) GameClubFan_747004: i played ben - in full throttle =) loved it
(08:41:24 AM) happygamer: that's booty island!
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(08:41:30 AM) happygamer: and it looks like the last scene!
(08:41:31 AM) TimeGentleman: Ha ha, nice try Cheeseness!
(08:41:37 AM) Rojasono: I also enjoyed this mushroom-themed p&c adventure. Gilbert Goodmate or something. Ever played that, Ron? :D
(08:41:40 AM) happygamer: don't you remember ron?
(08:41:48 AM) Gins: yea gilbert goodmate was nice
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(08:41:49 AM) Cheeseness: TimeGentleman: Thought it was worth asking GrumpyGamer :D
(08:41:54 AM) OzzieMonkey: GrumpyGamer: was it intentional to make the ending screen look like Booty Island?
(08:41:56 AM) Gins: it had some MI references in it
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(08:42:03 AM) Gins: and borrowed the CMI interface
(08:42:10 AM) Smith: timegentlemen, i want to play the swindle already
(08:42:13 AM) GrumpyGamer: Yes, that was intentional.
(08:42:17 AM) happygamer: aha
(08:42:19 AM) happygamer: so it was!
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(08:42:24 AM) Toothrot: interesting!
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(08:42:27 AM) happygamer: that's what I asked before!
(08:42:28 AM) Stanismyhero: aha,
(08:42:32 AM) TimeGentleman: smith i'm not working on that but me too!
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(08:42:38 AM) Stanismyhero: I thought it was just re-using a background for ease
(08:42:41 AM) Kalavinka: I think grumpygamer just gave up after being asked a billion times
(08:42:42 AM) happygamer: so it WAS intentional
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(08:42:45 AM) Gins: it wasn't reused
(08:42:48 AM) GrumpyGamer: Oh, I see what you were asking
(08:42:49 AM) Gins: it was completely repainted
(08:42:51 AM) Smith: ah oops, thought you were ben marshal
(08:42:53 AM) GrumpyGamer: Sorry, I misunderstood.
(08:42:56 AM) Gins: but looks similar
(08:42:57 AM) TimeGentleman: happygamer sounded like you were talking about the coastlines
(08:42:58 AM) happygamer: no problem
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(08:43:02 AM) happygamer: not a native speaker
(08:43:10 AM) happygamer: so i was probably unclear
(08:43:11 AM) SirLemonhead: i don;'t remember that scene at all
(08:43:13 AM) Scummbuddy: Yeah, I thought you meant from the map point of view
(08:43:15 AM) Kalavinka: :O
(08:43:24 AM) Lattsam: Guybrush, you DON'T do that to someone with a peg leg!  ...Unless you need to, lol
(08:43:28 AM) Cheeseness: I love this cave!
(08:43:31 AM) Cheeseness: I love this face!
(08:43:36 AM) Smith: ahem... dan marshall
(08:43:40 AM) Gins: aeiiiiii
(08:43:45 AM) Rojasono: Guybrush is definitely a douchebag lol
(08:43:45 AM) happygamer: I'm still not understanding the meaning of the big WEENIE in the last scene
(08:43:48 AM) GameClubFan_848552 [a6937b93@hide-6C77D8AA.mibbit.com] entered the room.
(08:43:58 AM) dook: ron have you got some killer point and click puzzles stored away, waiting to be used?
(08:44:01 AM) Fireflower: give the pegleg to pegbiter?
(08:44:01 AM) NattyDreads: the weenie hut
(08:44:04 AM) Cheeseness: Ben Marshall, Dan Ward. The dudes are merging.
(08:44:05 AM) fibrousmen: the Weenie Hut!
(08:44:10 AM) happygamer: the weenie hut
(08:44:13 AM) Smith: lol
(08:44:16 AM) TimeGentleman: happygamer it is an allegory for penis
(08:44:22 AM) NattyDreads: Why is the door on the Weenie Hut so huge.
(08:44:35 AM) fibrousmen: again, allegory
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(08:44:39 AM) Kalavinka: lol
(08:44:43 AM) NattyDreads: hahaha
(08:44:43 AM) GrumpyGamer: Not really.  They just come out during good brainstorm meetings.
(08:44:44 AM) happygamer: in mi1 gyubrush says "i thought there was a weenie roast here" right in the beginning
(08:44:46 AM) Cheeseness: GrumpyGamer: Is "snarky" still a good description for this kind of behaviour? It feels more like he just doesn't care :D
(08:44:55 AM) Fireflower: is the Weenie Hut located in Morningwood?
(08:45:05 AM) Anon: oh Stan
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(08:45:12 AM) Tea: Wait
(08:45:13 AM) Lattsam: Morningwood, where everyone rises
(08:45:13 AM) Stanismyhero: stann
(08:45:13 AM) Kalavinka: even the dead customers?
(08:45:19 AM) Fireflower: :)
(08:45:19 AM) Gins: next heroic deed: lock stan in his own coffin
(08:45:19 AM) Tea: Stan just implied that LeChuck was his customer!!
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(08:45:24 AM) Gins: AND let him be burried in it..
(08:45:30 AM) japro: stan always seems to have a monopoly on whatever he is selling at the moment
(08:45:31 AM) dook: i think guybrush does just as much nasty stuff as lechuck. guybrush is lechuck
(08:45:31 AM) happygamer: what did he say?
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(08:45:38 AM) happygamer: i didn't pay attention
(08:45:39 AM) deadmau3: guybrush just nailed it
(08:45:45 AM) japro: i guess pirates don't have anti trust laws?
(08:45:47 AM) Tea: happygamer: "My customers always come back.... eventually."
(08:45:48 AM) geecko: GrumpyGamer : At this point, do you know what you're gonna do after Scurvy Scallywags ?
(08:45:50 AM) Lattsam: Who HASN'T wanted to do that to him?
(08:45:51 AM) Schmuhf: haha, the animation with the nails is so golden
(08:45:52 AM) fibrousmen: does he wake up with the same outfit in MI3?
(08:45:53 AM) Tea: Totally reffering to LeChuck
(08:45:56 AM) happygamer: thx tea
(08:45:56 AM) Gins: actually guybrush probably wanted to get him out
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(08:45:59 AM) Lattsam: He's gonna escape, somehow XD
(08:46:02 AM) Gins: but the coffin was too good for that
(08:46:07 AM) Gins: so  it was just bad luck.
(08:46:08 AM) GameClubFan_848552: Where did the inspiration for the names come from?
(08:46:15 AM) Smith: poor stan
(08:46:20 AM) Kalavinka: I guess he'd want to brag if Lechuck was a client
(08:46:21 AM) Scummbuddy: he actually wakes up with his outfit from mi1
(08:46:22 AM) dook: this is horrible guybrush is horrible. lechuck wouldn't even do this...
(08:46:26 AM) GrumpyGamer: I have another iOS game that I'll probably make… or at least prototype up until I realize it sucks.
(08:46:27 AM) OzzieMonkey: Oh god, Stan sounds like he's suffering pretty badly
(08:46:28 AM) Scummbuddy: but that outfit is more iconic
(08:46:29 AM) Rojasono: Stan is super resilient though
(08:46:33 AM) Stanismyhero: Voice makes this funnier lol
(08:46:42 AM) GameClubFan_794944: ron, which part you really didn't like in the curse?
(08:46:42 AM) happygamer: grumpygamer don't be so hard on yourself!
(08:46:47 AM) dook: oh my god he might die
(08:46:49 AM) Stanismyhero: Just realised that he sounds like Al Gore
(08:46:50 AM) TimeGentleman: Until Guybrush starts making chairs out of screaming bones he's okay by me
(08:46:50 AM) GameClubFan_747004: stan is the retailer of the century
(08:46:59 AM) Stanismyhero: MAN BEAR PIG
(08:47:04 AM) Gins: century-y-y-y-y-y-y
(08:47:06 AM) Kalavinka: at least MI3 made a good use of this setup for Stan :D
(08:47:08 AM) Syd: Alright folks, I think I'm gonna leave the stream here.
(08:47:12 AM) GrumpyGamer: I do 10 or 20 prototypes a year and most of them suck.
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(08:47:22 AM) happygamer: oh
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(08:47:23 AM) GrumpyGamer: That's why I prototype.
(08:47:27 AM) Stanismyhero: end of stream?
(08:47:29 AM) geecko: This is exactly why you should disable the voices
(08:47:30 AM) Syd [ae3545dc@hide-BF4D4B18.mibbit.com] entered the room.
(08:47:32 AM) Syd: And then I accidentally refreshed the chat
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(08:47:38 AM) Scummbuddy: So, we're done?
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(08:47:40 AM) Cheeseness: GrumpyGamer: Would you ever share some of the ideas that didn't make it?
(08:47:40 AM) TimeGentleman: Thanks for doing this Syd GrumpyGamer and Cheeseness!
(08:47:40 AM) SirLemonhead: Thanks Syd, Ron :)
(08:47:40 AM) Gins: aw
(08:47:41 AM) dook: great fun, thanks ron
(08:47:45 AM) Rojasono: Check it out! Check it out!
(08:47:46 AM) Tea: 1.5.0
(08:47:46 AM) Fireflower: Thanks Syd
(08:47:48 AM) Syd: With the stream, for now. We can still chat, though
(08:47:48 AM) GrumpyGamer: W00t
(08:47:48 AM) Stanismyhero: Thanks Syd, Ron
(08:47:48 AM) happygamer: noooooo
(08:47:51 AM) GrumpyGamer: thanks!
(08:47:53 AM) Tea: Not testing 1.6.0
(08:47:53 AM) Smith: thanks, grumpygamer. this was fun
(08:47:53 AM) GameClubFan_747004: thx for streaming
(08:47:54 AM) Cheeseness: TimeGentleman: Our pleasure! Thanks for coming!
(08:47:56 AM) GrumpyGamer: No, thank you!
(08:47:56 AM) GameClubFan_165067: thankyou for everything ron
(08:47:56 AM) Kalavinka: thanks all :=
(08:47:57 AM) Toothrot: Thanks!
(08:47:57 AM) OzzieMonkey: Awesome stream, I'll be sure to come back next week
(08:47:57 AM) Cheeseness: Thanks Syd!
(08:47:57 AM) geecko: Thanks Syd, Thanks GrumpyGamer
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(08:47:59 AM) lfcorreia: GrumpyGamer, thanks for chatting with us!
(08:48:00 AM) happygamer: are you returning ron?
(08:48:00 AM) GameClubFan_747004: good night
(08:48:00 AM) Cheeseness: Thanks for coming, GrumpyGamer!
(08:48:02 AM) Gins: thanks you two
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(08:48:03 AM) AnarkiJ: prototypes can still be cool, even if you abandon the idea, I know fans like myself would be really interested to see what kind of htings you work on
(08:48:04 AM) Rojasono: Thanks for the stream and your time, Syd and GrumpyGamer!
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(08:48:04 AM) Lattsam: Thanks again Grumpygamer
(08:48:08 AM) interceptor: good night
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(08:48:10 AM) Scummbuddy: Thank you!
(08:48:10 AM) interceptor: thanks ron!
(08:48:12 AM) OzzieMonkey: Thanks for coming to discuss the awesomeness that is MI Ron!
(08:48:13 AM) jojo_: Awesome
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(08:48:15 AM) GrumpyGamer: I might be here next week.  If I'm in town.
(08:48:15 AM) GameClubFan_741938: bollocks, i missed it
(08:48:15 AM) Anon: thank you!
(08:48:16 AM) Vanpastel: thank Ron!
(08:48:16 AM) Tea: GrumpyGamer: Thanks for the second best adventure game ever made!
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(08:48:23 AM) happygamer: okay ron
(08:48:23 AM) Lattsam: grumpygamer and I'll be there
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(08:48:26 AM) deadmau3: thanks ron
(08:48:31 AM) yama: GrumpyGamer, you're welcome to stop by at any time. :)
(08:48:33 AM) GrumpyGamer: see ya!
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(08:48:33 AM) Stanismyhero: night
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(08:48:34 AM) happygamer: good night to you and your dog!
(08:48:34 AM) Cheeseness: OzzieMonkey: Are you coming to PAX?
(08:48:36 AM) Lattsam: Maybe we'll get to see the Sam and Max cameo ^_^
(08:48:39 AM) Syd: Thanks for joining us, GrumpyGamer!
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(08:48:42 AM) TimeGentleman: Night!
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(08:48:51 AM) OzzieMonkey: Cheeness: Unfortunately no, money's tight and I missed out on tickets
(08:48:53 AM) Syd: We'll be continuing next week, picking up where I left off.
(08:48:54 AM) yama: Thanks for coming today, GrumpyGamer, TimeGentleman, and everyone else.