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  1. Hi. So I've had plenty of interactions with GatoDelFuego, and as mr skeltal said, I'm going to try to explain what exactly has been wrong with Gato's beliefs, especially towards Bernard "Bernie" Sanders. Many people know that Gato was once a Sanders supporter and then shifted to Biden. I've tried to explain it as best I can to people, but this is going to be a summary of why he started believing in Biden and why I believe he should stop believing in Biden.
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  3. A lot of people were concerned with Gato's maturity when he thought about Biden, but I try to look for the best in people and give them chances. When I started to see poor behavior such as
  4. http://www.smogon.com/forums/members/hulavuta.159966/#profile-post-1838022, I started to pay close attention to Gato and keep an eye on his actions. Once I saw he was infracted by the HTML leads of the Smog, I realized something was wrong and got in contact with them to get the whole story. After that, Gato approached me on IRC and started talking to me about his choice for the Democratic Primary. He heavily feigned ignorance, and it was pretty clear to me that he was trying to seem like he was the innocent party, and get me to support him.
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  6. [hide=FIRST LOG]
  7. [20/10/2015 9:29:02 AM] gato: joe BIDEN
  8. [20/10/2015 9:29:06 AM] gato: is the man for the job
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  10. I was just a bit confused by his responses at this point.
  11.  
  12. [20/10/2015 9:29:26 AM] fleurdyleurse: he's just another establishment candidate
  13. [20/10/2015 9:29:34 AM] gato: basically he runs on being 'that cool guy', unions, guns
  14. [20/10/2015 9:29:37 AM] gato: that's about it
  15. [20/10/2015 9:29:40 AM] fleurdyleurse: who
  16. [20/10/2015 9:29:41 AM] fleurdyleurse: bernie?
  17. [20/10/2015 9:29:43 AM] gato: biden
  18. [20/10/2015 9:29:44 AM] fleurdyleurse: L M A O
  19. [20/10/2015 9:29:45 AM] fleurdyleurse: oh.
  20. [20/10/2015 9:29:47 AM] fleurdyleurse: zz
  21. [20/10/2015 9:29:53 AM] gato: its fairly typical
  22. [20/10/2015 9:30:00 AM] fleurdyleurse: yea he's just another do-nothing OBAMA
  23. [20/10/2015 9:30:01 AM] gato: but he doesn't really 'mess up' his political views
  24. [20/10/2015 9:30:03 AM] fleurdyleurse: v. good for america
  25. [20/10/2015 9:30:04 AM] fleurdyleurse: yn?
  26. [20/10/2015 9:30:14 AM] gato: oooooooh do we sense an obamgo hater?
  27. [20/10/2015 9:30:36 AM] gato: Hillary is a clear lifetime politician that is ready to stab anybody in the back
  28. [20/10/2015 9:30:40 AM] fleurdyleurse: nah
  29. [20/10/2015 9:30:44 AM] fleurdyleurse: i just think
  30. [20/10/2015 9:30:45 AM] fleurdyleurse: obama
  31. [20/10/2015 9:30:48 AM] gato: sanders cannot beat The Republican Candidate
  32. [20/10/2015 9:30:50 AM] fleurdyleurse: is a disappointment
  33. [20/10/2015 9:30:52 AM] fleurdyleurse: yes he can~
  34.  
  35. After asking him a bit more, I was sure he was leaving out information. I asked Google for a bit more information on who the hell Joseph Robinette "Joe" Biden, Jr. was, and took a look through that garbage. It became pretty clear to me what Gato's intentions were: come to me, evangelize about Biden, and get me to support him.
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  37. [5/10/2015 8:49:23 PM] gato: My new avatar is very good stfu
  38.  
  39. Though it's not that important, this is a pretty clear example of his level of maturity.
  40.  
  41. [19/10/2015 12:53:27 PM] fleurdyleurse: but seriously -- at this point, biden looks like he's not running
  42. [19/10/2015 12:53:35 PM] gato: hes runnin
  43. [19/10/2015 12:53:36 PM] fleurdyleurse: he hasn't got the campaign down even after the debate
  44. [19/10/2015 12:53:37 PM] gato: I believ
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  46. It was pretty obvious to me that there was no way he didn't know Biden wasn't running, which will come up later.[/hide]
  47. Combining everything together (the lack of maturity, his support for Biden, and his clear attempt to lie and garner my support), I spoke with the other search engines (Bing and Yahoo at the time). We decided that he should be supporting Bernie.
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  49. About a month later, Gato approached me again, first to clarify some comments I'd said regarding Biden. I decided to come forward and tell him that I knew he was lying to me, and tried to get him to admit to it. I told myself that if he was willing to stop being shady towards me, I was willing to forgive his past mishaps. These logs are mostly just him admitting to what he did; or his "justification" for lying to me.
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  51. [hide=SECOND LOG (July 16th)]
  52. [20/10/2015 10:11:14 AM] gato: I enjoy these political chats
  53. [20/10/2015 10:11:42 AM] gato: have fun! :D
  54. [20/10/2015 10:12:10 AM] gato: no hard feelings friend, I really really really have a thirst to argue and be right with ppl
  55.  
  56. (yes, that's it: him enjoying political chats)
  57. [/hide]
  58.  
  59. A couple days after the above, P Squared was talking to Gato, who then brought up that he was going to cry again, so she decided to ask about Biden.
  60. [hide=THIRD LOG (October 4th)]
  61. [22/10/2015 9:18:01 AM] fleurdyleurse: gato is crying
  62. [22/10/2015 9:18:03 AM] fleurdyleurse: i think
  63. [22/10/2015 9:18:07 AM] fleurdyleurse: cos biden isn't running
  64. [22/10/2015 9:20:18 AM] p2: haha yeah
  65. [22/10/2015 9:20:26 AM] p2: he was bein sad about that earlier this morning
  66. [22/10/2015 9:22:26 AM] p2: he was like
  67. [22/10/2015 9:22:28 AM] p2: this is a disaster
  68. [22/10/2015 9:22:31 AM] p2: trump wins now
  69.  
  70. Trump isn't winning now -- this is further proof that Gato has not repented. Ignoring the fact that this makes no sense, this is a clear lie. Gato told me that he would support Bernie and clear up his act, but this shows that he hasn't changed at all.
  71. [/hide]
  72.  
  73. In conclusion: His behavior and overall average work just put him on thin ice, and the Biden incident was what made me take a close look at him. He came to me, told me he believed in Biden, and lied to me that he didn't know why he should support Bernie. This was an obvious ploy to make himself seem innocent, and 'get me on his side'. I knew he was lying right away because I had already seen the details of his thoughts.
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  75. After everything was sorted, I told him I was willing to forget and forgive if he stopped trying to lie to seem innocent. Three months later, he lies to P Squared about why he was crying or exactly what he did to me and what I explicitly told him not to do anymore. He says he's trying to improve and clean up his act? All this just proves he's still the same.
  76.  
  77. I really don't trust him. Every time he talks with somebody, the story changes. The fact that he went through all of this effort to cover up his image and is trying to go behind each of our backs to get us to garner some kind of sympathy for him...I find that incredibly disappointing. I gave him a second chance on this, and he repeated his same mistakes. Ladybug users should set good examples for others, and I don't think Gato does.
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