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  1. [2014-06-21 00:35:27] |<-- dexanote has left irc.synirc.net (Client exited)
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  4. [2014-06-21 15:47:06] =-= Topic for #Squamatism is ``This is the channel for the Die Hard Serpant's Hand Group for the SCP Foundation writing contest.''
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  9. [2014-06-21 16:04:25] <Zyn> HEEY
  10. [2014-06-21 16:04:27] <Zyn> So
  11. [2014-06-21 16:04:31] <Zyn> I finally got to writan
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  13. [2014-06-21 16:52:36] <thedeadlymoose> Okay!
  14. [2014-06-21 16:52:40] <thedeadlymoose> I...
  15. [2014-06-21 16:52:50] <thedeadlymoose> ...am cheating on our group, along with dex, at the moment. hahaha
  16. [2014-06-21 16:53:02] <thedeadlymoose> it's that time of the week when Light is online, so eschatology discussion is happening
  17. [2014-06-21 16:53:24] <thedeadlymoose> What's your approximate weekend schedule, if you have one? :o
  18. [2014-06-21 16:53:45] <Zyn> guh
  19. [2014-06-21 16:53:45] <thedeadlymoose> I should be on off and on today, and same tomorrow; I can be texted as well (and can respond saying 'not now' if that's the answer)
  20. [2014-06-21 16:53:46] <Zyn> busy
  21. [2014-06-21 16:53:49] <thedeadlymoose> hahahaha, damn
  22. [2014-06-21 16:53:55] <Zyn> well
  23. [2014-06-21 16:53:58] <Zyn> actually, sort of like yours
  24. [2014-06-21 16:54:00] <Zyn> on and off
  25. [2014-06-21 16:54:13] -->| Riemann (Riemann@Procy.Is.Great) has joined #Squamatism
  26. [2014-06-21 16:54:14] <Zyn> when my parents are home, I need to either be up to my hairline in work, eating, doing chores, or sleeping.
  27. [2014-06-21 16:59:00] <thedeadlymoose> okay, that's cool
  28. [2014-06-21 16:59:20] <thedeadlymoose> We still need to work out an exact format
  29. [2014-06-21 16:59:37] <thedeadlymoose> We also didn't finish discussing what Tales to do, but... I think we could just start writing some tales, really
  30. [2014-06-21 16:59:51] <thedeadlymoose> we have enough to get going atm
  31. [2014-06-21 17:00:07] <thedeadlymoose> we can do more discussion in between with whoever can sign online
  32. [2014-06-21 17:00:18] <thedeadlymoose> I will try to sign on whenever possible throughout the weekend
  33. [2014-06-21 17:12:36] <thedeadlymoose> Oh btw
  34. [2014-06-21 17:12:36] <thedeadlymoose> https://docs.google.com/file/d/0B6G6fFlLELG9SzRNZ0RoUm1XX3c/edit
  35. [2014-06-21 17:12:39] <thedeadlymoose> Vivax is working on that
  36. [2014-06-21 17:12:58] <thedeadlymoose> I'm concerned with him making it a word/google document unless he plans to print it out and do fancy things with it
  37. [2014-06-21 17:13:06] <thedeadlymoose> Because it would be neat for people to be able to write more
  38. [2014-06-21 17:13:22] <thedeadlymoose> Also not sure it's got enough spaces for info, but either way, a good start
  39. [2014-06-21 17:25:14] <Zyn> Mhm.
  40. [2014-06-21 17:25:31] <Zyn> Oh, does the hub need to be posted first?
  41. [2014-06-21 17:25:41] <Zyn> Or can we have contest stuff up without a hub?
  42. [2014-06-21 17:32:35] |<-- Zyn has left irc.synirc.net (Quit: http://www.mibbit.com ajax IRC Client)
  43. [2014-06-21 17:57:43] <thedeadlymoose> copying for log purposes
  44. [2014-06-21 17:57:53] <thedeadlymoose> [17:56] Nala From Zyn in channel Zyn: http://wanderers-sandbox.wikidot.com/zyn-s-sandbox Second tab is basic text for the spirit staff GOI SCP. If it looks alright, I'll write up the journal versions. I'm thinking we could have multiple formats, for apparatus, entity/individual, phenomenon, location, etc (received at 2014-06-21 16:03:49 PDT, 1 h 52 m 38 s ago)
  45. [2014-06-21 17:57:53] <thedeadlymoose> [17:57] thedeadlymoose .tell Zyn I like that idea -- we can combine it with a consistent central format. We can have sections like FOR APPARATUS: FOR PHENOMENON: FOR X
  46. [2014-06-21 17:57:53] <thedeadlymoose> [17:57] Nala Acknowledged.
  47. [2014-06-21 17:57:53] <thedeadlymoose> [17:57] thedeadlymoose .tell Zyn The in-character style guide can explain this!
  48. [2014-06-21 17:57:53] <thedeadlymoose> [17:57] Nala I'll let them know.
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  54. [2014-06-21 23:30:07] === You have invited Zyn to #squamatism.
  55. [2014-06-21 23:30:08] </@> thedeadlymoose invited Zyn into the channel.
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  58. [2014-06-21 23:30:31] <thedeadlymoose> okay cool
  59. [2014-06-21 23:30:38] <thedeadlymoose> alright so you gotta sleep soon
  60. [2014-06-21 23:30:54] <Zyn> Yeah.
  61. [2014-06-21 23:30:54] <Zyn> So.
  62. [2014-06-21 23:30:58] <thedeadlymoose> first, you get my PMs?
  63. [2014-06-21 23:31:02] <Zyn> I have the text up for the first GOI thing
  64. [2014-06-21 23:31:03] <Zyn> Yeah
  65. [2014-06-21 23:31:09] <Zyn> I can get to work on the in-character guide
  66. [2014-06-21 23:31:12] <thedeadlymoose> cool cool
  67. [2014-06-21 23:31:21] <thedeadlymoose> I think we need to connect with Vivax on that, but---
  68. [2014-06-21 23:31:23] <thedeadlymoose> actually, heh
  69. [2014-06-21 23:31:28] <thedeadlymoose> we can just do drafts at this point
  70. [2014-06-21 23:31:34] <Zyn> Yeah.
  71. [2014-06-21 23:31:38] <thedeadlymoose> Like, I think we're at the stage where we should start doing drafts
  72. [2014-06-21 23:31:42] <thedeadlymoose> And THEN remake them
  73. [2014-06-21 23:31:50] <Zyn> Yeah.
  74. [2014-06-21 23:31:58] <Zyn> Well, I'd like to get the text of my draft looked at
  75. [2014-06-21 23:32:02] <thedeadlymoose> I'm gonna work on two stories I have in mind, trying to work through them
  76. [2014-06-21 23:32:05] <thedeadlymoose> I'll do that right niw
  77. [2014-06-21 23:32:06] <thedeadlymoose> *now
  78. [2014-06-21 23:32:09] <Zyn> so I can start doing the actual hard copy "journal entries"
  79. [2014-06-21 23:32:11] <Zyn> Great
  80. [2014-06-21 23:32:29] <thedeadlymoose> Also copy/pasting a thing
  81. [2014-06-21 23:32:48] <thedeadlymoose> Zyn: I'm thinking we could have multiple formats, for apparatus, entity/individual, phenomenon, location, etc
  82. [2014-06-21 23:32:48] <thedeadlymoose> Me: I like that idea -- we can combine it with a consistent central format. We can have sections like FOR APPARATUS: FOR PHENOMENON: FOR X The in-character style guide can explain this!
  83. [2014-06-21 23:32:53] <thedeadlymoose> ^ For Dexanote persual
  84. [2014-06-21 23:33:01] <thedeadlymoose> Zyn: Wait, you wanna do the hardcopy ... I'm confused
  85. [2014-06-21 23:33:16] <thedeadlymoose> The hard copies are the journal entries, not the things done via the format, right?
  86. [2014-06-21 23:33:17] <Zyn> thedeadlymoose: I'm writing out the "GOI SCP"?
  87. [2014-06-21 23:33:29] <thedeadlymoose> Because we gotta actually get down the format before we finalize it
  88. [2014-06-21 23:33:36] <thedeadlymoose> Wait
  89. [2014-06-21 23:33:44] <thedeadlymoose> Is this what we were talking about with, like
  90. [2014-06-21 23:33:47] <Zyn> I'm writing out the GOI "article"
  91. [2014-06-21 23:33:53] <thedeadlymoose> Drafts that are like that
  92. [2014-06-21 23:34:02] <Zyn> the spirit staff.
  93. [2014-06-21 23:34:09] <thedeadlymoose> Yeah, I know. But the GOI "articles" have to be replicable on the website. We need a format that is wikidot.
  94. [2014-06-21 23:34:24] <thedeadlymoose> So they can't be /solely/ handwritten and photographed
  95. [2014-06-21 23:34:26] <thedeadlymoose> Make sense?
  96. [2014-06-21 23:34:31] <Zyn> Yeah?
  97. [2014-06-21 23:34:39] <Zyn> Haven't we had an article that's just a picture?
  98. [2014-06-21 23:34:43] <Zyn> Like, mainsite SCP.
  99. [2014-06-21 23:34:53] <thedeadlymoose> 682-J is a photoshop piece
  100. [2014-06-21 23:35:00] <Zyn> Yeah, like that.
  101. [2014-06-21 23:35:07] <Zyn> Not everything needs to be handwritten
  102. [2014-06-21 23:35:12] <Zyn> But I would like to have at least one
  103. [2014-06-21 23:35:14] <thedeadlymoose> Yeah, but no one can duplicate that except Faminepulse -- and the format has to be consistent
  104. [2014-06-21 23:35:19] <thedeadlymoose> I'm cool with that
  105. [2014-06-21 23:35:22] <Dexanote> ok wait
  106. [2014-06-21 23:35:23] <Dexanote> what
  107. [2014-06-21 23:35:25] <Dexanote> sigh
  108. [2014-06-21 23:35:25] <Dexanote> fehfge
  109. [2014-06-21 23:35:27] <thedeadlymoose> But we have to do one of two things
  110. [2014-06-21 23:35:30] <Zyn> Format is consistent
  111. [2014-06-21 23:35:34] <thedeadlymoose> Okay
  112. [2014-06-21 23:35:37] <Zyn> mine will just happen to be written out?
  113. [2014-06-21 23:35:39] <Zyn> Orrrrr
  114. [2014-06-21 23:35:39] <thedeadlymoose> But we haven't decided on format
  115. [2014-06-21 23:35:48] <Zyn> If you want, I can just have that last blurb be handwritten
  116. [2014-06-21 23:35:54] <Zyn> the rest will be in a quote box
  117. [2014-06-21 23:36:13] <thedeadlymoose> The other option would be to have all the articles be written with wikidot formatting, but some of them are based off 'original materials'
  118. [2014-06-21 23:36:22] <thedeadlymoose> the original materials are the proto-article that doesn't need to follow format
  119. [2014-06-21 23:36:50] <thedeadlymoose> We COULD write out the entire thing, but if so, you + whoever else does that will have to wait til we actually get down the format.
  120. [2014-06-21 23:36:59] <thedeadlymoose> Because we haven't decided it firmly yet
  121. [2014-06-21 23:37:00] <Zyn> Yeah, that's fine with me.
  122. [2014-06-21 23:37:05] <Zyn> Okay.
  123. [2014-06-21 23:37:07] <thedeadlymoose> Which version? XD
  124. [2014-06-21 23:37:09] <thedeadlymoose> *option
  125. [2014-06-21 23:37:18] |<-- Riemann has left irc.synirc.net (Ping timeout: 188 seconds)
  126. [2014-06-21 23:37:27] <Dexanote> Is it okay that i /still don't know what content we are supposed to be producing/
  127. [2014-06-21 23:37:38] <Dexanote> or am i hilariously, insanely behind
  128. [2014-06-21 23:37:47] <thedeadlymoose> Dex: I dunno!
  129. [2014-06-21 23:38:03] <Dexanote> o k
  130. [2014-06-21 23:38:10] <Zyn> Oh, I'm uploading the picture of the spirit staff
  131. [2014-06-21 23:38:12] <thedeadlymoose> I'm... confused by your confusion, I mean, I don't know how to answer that question
  132. [2014-06-21 23:38:14] <thedeadlymoose> Cool, Zyn
  133. [2014-06-21 23:38:37] <Dexanote> Moose i feel like i have no fucking idea what i'm supposed to be writing
  134. [2014-06-21 23:38:44] <thedeadlymoose> But Dex: I think all of us are confused to a certain extent because it's been so hard to get online at the same time and then we have to just, like, gush shit out XD
  135. [2014-06-21 23:38:45] <Dexanote> and you guys are like, a week and a half ahead of me
  136. [2014-06-21 23:38:51] <thedeadlymoose> I think that's an illusion
  137. [2014-06-21 23:38:52] <thedeadlymoose> Hahaha
  138. [2014-06-21 23:39:01] <thedeadlymoose> However
  139. [2014-06-21 23:39:07] <thedeadlymoose> Actually, wait
  140. [2014-06-21 23:39:11] <Zyn> http://wanderers-sandbox.wdfiles.com/local--files/zyn-s-sandbox/Spirit%20Staff.JPG
  141. [2014-06-21 23:39:14] <thedeadlymoose> Dex, are you clear on what the contest requirements are?
  142. [2014-06-21 23:39:14] <Zyn> : D
  143. [2014-06-21 23:39:16] <Zyn> It's kinda big.
  144. [2014-06-21 23:39:22] <Zyn> But I'll resize for the article
  145. [2014-06-21 23:39:41] <thedeadlymoose> Zyn: That's pretty sweet
  146. [2014-06-21 23:39:48] <thedeadlymoose> Zyn: What if you had smaller photos that are 'details'
  147. [2014-06-21 23:39:51] <thedeadlymoose> of component parts
  148. [2014-06-21 23:39:54] <Dexanote> No.
  149. [2014-06-21 23:39:59] <thedeadlymoose> and the component parts have specific functions and reference things
  150. [2014-06-21 23:40:01] <Dexanote> see like
  151. [2014-06-21 23:40:02] <Zyn> I have some of those
  152. [2014-06-21 23:40:04] <Dexanote> whenever we talk at all
  153. [2014-06-21 23:40:10] <Zyn> Idk about how formatting it would go though
  154. [2014-06-21 23:40:13] <Dexanote> either i'm distracted by other people
  155. [2014-06-21 23:40:15] <Dexanote> or I'm at work
  156. [2014-06-21 23:40:16] <Zyn> since I want it to be wikidot-friendly
  157. [2014-06-21 23:40:18] <Zyn> Aw hell
  158. [2014-06-21 23:40:21] <Dexanote> and distracted by other people
  159. [2014-06-21 23:40:22] <thedeadlymoose> Damn, Dex. :x
  160. [2014-06-21 23:40:22] <Zyn> I'll probably just end up like
  161. [2014-06-21 23:40:25] <Dexanote> I KNOW
  162. [2014-06-21 23:40:31] <thedeadlymoose> It's cool, we can catch up
  163. [2014-06-21 23:40:36] <Zyn> Typing up the text, since writing it out would mean another picture that'd be hard to format
  164. [2014-06-21 23:40:39] <thedeadlymoose> Though that means I have to ask if now is a good time, haha
  165. [2014-06-21 23:40:44] <Zyn> At least the component things can be stacked...
  166. [2014-06-21 23:40:50] <Dexanote> well its 240 am for me
  167. [2014-06-21 23:41:22] <thedeadlymoose> Zyn: Format... Yeah. >_< But it would be awesome though if we can format it right
  168. [2014-06-21 23:41:25] <Dexanote> so why not
  169. [2014-06-21 23:41:28] <thedeadlymoose> Zyn: Like "Details" with paintings
  170. [2014-06-21 23:41:45] <thedeadlymoose> Except not just for art reasons, but, like
  171. [2014-06-21 23:42:04] <thedeadlymoose> "This segment of the staff makes use of X and Y principles and Z materials and magically relevant shapes/items"
  172. [2014-06-21 23:42:17] <thedeadlymoose> hell you could even reference the magical systems it's taking from
  173. [2014-06-21 23:42:30] <thedeadlymoose> Dex: Okay. First let's critique the content of Zyn's GOI SCP
  174. [2014-06-21 23:42:38] <thedeadlymoose> like "is this cool"
  175. [2014-06-21 23:42:59] <thedeadlymoose> Zyn can you link?
  176. [2014-06-21 23:43:16] <thedeadlymoose> wait, I have it: http://wanderers-sandbox.wikidot.com/zyn-s-sandbox 2nd tab
  177. [2014-06-21 23:43:35] <Zyn> Alright, "component" picture is uploading
  178. [2014-06-21 23:43:43] <Zyn> I don't want it to have more than 2 images, though
  179. [2014-06-21 23:43:45] <thedeadlymoose> " - elemental incorporation: wood, river crystals, rice straw twine" > I like it -- esp if it goes with a sort of 'what study/school of magic this falls under'
  180. [2014-06-21 23:43:52] <Zyn> Since it's supposed to be sort of like a journal entry snippet
  181. [2014-06-21 23:43:55] <thedeadlymoose> Your call, Zyn -- 1 would be enough
  182. [2014-06-21 23:43:57] <thedeadlymoose> Is it?
  183. [2014-06-21 23:44:09] <Zyn> Yeah, since people are actively keeping record of these things
  184. [2014-06-21 23:44:15] <thedeadlymoose> See, I'm not clear on that
  185. [2014-06-21 23:44:20] <thedeadlymoose> Are they all gonna be journal entry snippets?
  186. [2014-06-21 23:44:41] <Zyn> No. This one is a personal item, though, so the journal entry is sort of a failsafe.
  187. [2014-06-21 23:44:48] <Zyn> I imagine other things will be actual records
  188. [2014-06-21 23:44:53] <Zyn> like, for the craftsmanship section
  189. [2014-06-21 23:45:00] <Zyn> there'd be variants on "handmade"
  190. [2014-06-21 23:45:08] <thedeadlymoose> "- maintenance: none required, though handle with care." I like this too, also like the invocation
  191. [2014-06-21 23:45:12] <Zyn> so, "forged/smithed"
  192. [2014-06-21 23:45:22] <Zyn> for things like magic swords
  193. [2014-06-21 23:45:28] <thedeadlymoose> " - will change loyalty with strength of affinity with birdkin" > this seems excessively vague though I like it
  194. [2014-06-21 23:45:32] <Zyn> or alternatively, "summoned/ritual"
  195. [2014-06-21 23:45:40] <thedeadlymoose> the change loyalty thing seems like it needs elaboration
  196. [2014-06-21 23:45:47] <Zyn> thedeadlymoose: Yeah, gotcha.
  197. [2014-06-21 23:46:05] <Zyn> I figured that with every item the SH handles, they inherently want to respect the creator/original custodian
  198. [2014-06-21 23:46:16] <Zyn> whereas with Foundation it's all "screw previous owner, it's ours now"
  199. [2014-06-21 23:46:21] <Zyn> "let's run tests"
  200. [2014-06-21 23:46:32] <thedeadlymoose> Zyn: So this is gonna stay cliffs-notes-y, but other things following the format would be more fleshed out or fully written out?
  201. [2014-06-21 23:46:39] <Zyn> Yeah
  202. [2014-06-21 23:46:46] <Zyn> I'm currently working on my ideas for the format
  203. [2014-06-21 23:47:03] <Zyn> Like, I'll explain the maintenance/loyalty/invocation/craftsmanship sections
  204. [2014-06-21 23:47:07] <thedeadlymoose> man, the format's gonna either be really difficult or really easy. hahahaha
  205. [2014-06-21 23:47:13] <thedeadlymoose> in terms of how much we're gonna want to change
  206. [2014-06-21 23:47:17] <Zyn> Marp.
  207. [2014-06-21 23:47:21] <thedeadlymoose> but we should assume for now that you're gonna be writing draft 1, yeah?
  208. [2014-06-21 23:47:27] <Zyn> I can handle the Apparatus part?
  209. [2014-06-21 23:47:30] <thedeadlymoose> since you're already starting~
  210. [2014-06-21 23:47:48] <Zyn> We should have Apparatus, Entity, and Location
  211. [2014-06-21 23:47:57] <Zyn> Phenomenon can be based on Location, I think
  212. [2014-06-21 23:48:04] <Zyn> since spells and magic aren't really anomalies
  213. [2014-06-21 23:48:24] <Zyn> or heck
  214. [2014-06-21 23:48:36] <Zyn> Apparatus, Entity, Location, Enchantment
  215. [2014-06-21 23:48:38] <thedeadlymoose> I don't know how spells or magic would fit there
  216. [2014-06-21 23:48:41] <thedeadlymoose> ahh
  217. [2014-06-21 23:48:46] <thedeadlymoose> one sec though
  218. [2014-06-21 23:48:57] <thedeadlymoose> our overall problem is that this requires complexity for coolness
  219. [2014-06-21 23:49:14] <thedeadlymoose> but it /has/ to be intuitive and easy to use
  220. [2014-06-21 23:49:26] <thedeadlymoose> let's come back to that tho
  221. [2014-06-21 23:49:28] <Zyn> I'm going to make it like a multiple choice thing
  222. [2014-06-21 23:49:30] <thedeadlymoose> b/c more critique~
  223. [2014-06-21 23:49:35] <Zyn> mkay.
  224. [2014-06-21 23:49:37] <Zyn> Oh
  225. [2014-06-21 23:49:37] <Zyn> http://wanderers-sandbox.wdfiles.com/local--files/zyn-s-sandbox/Spirit%20Staff%20Component.JPG
  226. [2014-06-21 23:49:39] <Zyn> component pic up.
  227. [2014-06-21 23:49:48] <thedeadlymoose> " - primary use is mental/astral communing over long distances with birds or greater birdkin (does not appear to influence communication with ostrich or other flightless birds, will need to rectify)" > this is great, that last note
  228. [2014-06-21 23:49:59] <Zyn> :3
  229. [2014-06-21 23:50:09] <Zyn> btw "birdkin" is basically anyone that is part bird
  230. [2014-06-21 23:50:13] <thedeadlymoose> " - temperament is docile, if protective. Will disrupt communing connection if danger approaches either party" > this -- like the craftsmanship section about elements and focus -- requires further context
  231. [2014-06-21 23:50:21] <thedeadlymoose> (I think that could be clarified)
  232. [2014-06-21 23:50:25] <Zyn> "greater birdkin" would be anyone like that who can think and talk/read
  233. [2014-06-21 23:50:29] <Zyn> Okay
  234. [2014-06-21 23:50:34] <thedeadlymoose> Like, why are we meant to assume staff have temperaments
  235. [2014-06-21 23:50:48] <Zyn> it goes back to the "loyalty" thing
  236. [2014-06-21 23:50:54] <Zyn> ooh, I should mention that
  237. [2014-06-21 23:50:59] <Zyn> custom creations
  238. [2014-06-21 23:51:12] <thedeadlymoose> do all spirit staffs have temperaments? and why not something more specific, like "Apparatus Sub-Type: Nyz Spirit Staff"
  239. [2014-06-21 23:51:17] <Zyn> if items were commissioned or made to have one custodian in mind, they're finicky about who handles them
  240. [2014-06-21 23:51:18] <thedeadlymoose> Maybe not Sub-Type though
  241. [2014-06-21 23:51:27] <Zyn> like Excalibur
  242. [2014-06-21 23:51:48] <Zyn> Probably because I don't think that there would be specific terms for these things?
  243. [2014-06-21 23:51:58] <thedeadlymoose> "Enchanted Apparatus, Arthurian-Origin, Weapon"
  244. [2014-06-21 23:51:59] <thedeadlymoose> I dunno
  245. [2014-06-21 23:52:04] <thedeadlymoose> Uh
  246. [2014-06-21 23:52:15] <thedeadlymoose> There /would/ be. Like...
  247. [2014-06-21 23:52:21] <thedeadlymoose> I mean every single thing in real life, haha
  248. [2014-06-21 23:52:21] <Zyn> I figure it'd make more sense to just say something like "it's not gonna work for you if you weren't the one it was made for"
  249. [2014-06-21 23:52:30] <thedeadlymoose> That would be a good detail yeah
  250. [2014-06-21 23:52:36] <thedeadlymoose> But I mean the fact that it was made at all
  251. [2014-06-21 23:52:41] <thedeadlymoose> It must have some name and origin
  252. [2014-06-21 23:52:49] <Zyn> Idk about name
  253. [2014-06-21 23:52:51] <thedeadlymoose> My suggestion above is shitty, but Excalibur is a good example
  254. [2014-06-21 23:53:10] <Zyn> origin, yeah. Master Ishikawa made it from raw material
  255. [2014-06-21 23:53:11] <thedeadlymoose> it's a magical weapon of Arthurian origin. If it were real, scholars would've come up with categorizations for it
  256. [2014-06-21 23:53:20] <Zyn> Idk about naming the thing.
  257. [2014-06-21 23:53:27] <Zyn> Ohhh.
  258. [2014-06-21 23:53:34] <Zyn> Well... I'm not sure, since SH is global?
  259. [2014-06-21 23:53:37] <thedeadlymoose> Hell, the entire Wikipedia page
  260. [2014-06-21 23:53:39] <thedeadlymoose> Well, that's the thing
  261. [2014-06-21 23:53:42] <thedeadlymoose> SH is global
  262. [2014-06-21 23:53:51] <thedeadlymoose> Magical traditions are /always/ location and culture specific
  263. [2014-06-21 23:53:55] <thedeadlymoose> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Excalibur
  264. [2014-06-21 23:54:00] <thedeadlymoose> Check out the intro to the Wikipedia page there
  265. [2014-06-21 23:54:18] <thedeadlymoose> It's extremely specific to Welsh and greater British origins
  266. [2014-06-21 23:54:23] <Zyn> Hmm.
  267. [2014-06-21 23:54:27] <Zyn> Maybe something simple, then?
  268. [2014-06-21 23:54:36] <Zyn> A "loyalty" section
  269. [2014-06-21 23:54:43] <thedeadlymoose> Well what I'm talking about here is 'fluff'
  270. [2014-06-21 23:54:47] <Zyn> and it'd be either "custodian-specific/commissioned"
  271. [2014-06-21 23:54:55] <Zyn> or "won in battle"
  272. [2014-06-21 23:55:04] <thedeadlymoose> A generic magic staff isn't very interesting beyond the ultra cool picture. Your details add it character but there should be context too
  273. [2014-06-21 23:55:12] <thedeadlymoose> What fictional school of thought in magic produced this?
  274. [2014-06-21 23:55:37] <Zyn> Hmm. I was thinking Eastern wizardry?
  275. [2014-06-21 23:55:40] <thedeadlymoose> Sure!
  276. [2014-06-21 23:55:45] <Zyn> Focus on zen and connection with spirits, etc.
  277. [2014-06-21 23:55:49] <thedeadlymoose> Yesss
  278. [2014-06-21 23:55:54] <thedeadlymoose> It's also helpful if more specific
  279. [2014-06-21 23:55:54] <Zyn> Basically it's like a cell phone for birds. :|
  280. [2014-06-21 23:55:59] <thedeadlymoose> Ahahahahaha
  281. [2014-06-21 23:56:00] <thedeadlymoose> ...
  282. [2014-06-21 23:56:04] <thedeadlymoose> HAVE SOMEONE COMMENT ON THAT
  283. [2014-06-21 23:56:05] <thedeadlymoose> lmao
  284. [2014-06-21 23:56:14] <thedeadlymoose> Get someone you know to write a notation on it
  285. [2014-06-21 23:56:20] <thedeadlymoose> "Basically this is like a cell phone for birds."
  286. [2014-06-21 23:56:33] <thedeadlymoose> Like in marker or something so it stands out. Like someone got ahold of that journal entry and commented :D
  287. [2014-06-21 23:56:44] <thedeadlymoose> You don't have to, but the idea is entertaining XD
  288. [2014-06-21 23:56:55] <Zyn> I can get my brother to do that. >.>
  289. [2014-06-21 23:56:57] <thedeadlymoose> Yessss
  290. [2014-06-21 23:57:09] <thedeadlymoose> Lemme explain further though on what I mean by history and context
  291. [2014-06-21 23:57:16] <thedeadlymoose> Let's take a real life type of staff
  292. [2014-06-21 23:57:50] <thedeadlymoose> Staff of office for example
  293. [2014-06-21 23:58:07] <thedeadlymoose> I think those came in part from shepherd's crooks
  294. [2014-06-21 23:58:12] <thedeadlymoose> That turned into a religious symbol
  295. [2014-06-21 23:58:14] <Zyn> caduceus
  296. [2014-06-21 23:58:32] <thedeadlymoose> A religious symbol of care for a flock + walking sticks
  297. [2014-06-21 23:58:48] <thedeadlymoose> Evolving ironically into a monarch's scepter in Western/Middle Eastern traditions
  298. [2014-06-21 23:59:06] <thedeadlymoose> Yeah, herald's staff for caduceus... from serpent worship, lmao
  299. [2014-06-21 23:59:28] <thedeadlymoose> This stuff doesn't have to be in your article of course
  300. [2014-06-21 23:59:43] <thedeadlymoose> But maybe something like commenting on other staffs out there that it's similar to
  301. [2014-06-21 23:59:57] <thedeadlymoose> "Probably / definitely derived from X tradition based on X thing"
  302. [2014-06-22 00:00:18] <thedeadlymoose> I mean, it's definitely not the only magic staff out there. It's an obvious enough idea that there's gotta be a lot of them.
  303. [2014-06-22 00:00:33] <thedeadlymoose> So details to make this specific, special, and placed in the context of the fictional world would help a lot
  304. [2014-06-22 00:00:53] <thedeadlymoose> (You're already part of the way there)
  305. [2014-06-22 00:01:16] <thedeadlymoose> Okay, back to more critique, lmao
  306. [2014-06-22 00:01:22] <thedeadlymoose> line editing I mean
  307. [2014-06-22 00:01:22] <Zyn> hurry
  308. [2014-06-22 00:01:26] <Zyn> gotta sleep soon
  309. [2014-06-22 00:01:27] <Zyn> >.>
  310. [2014-06-22 00:01:35] <thedeadlymoose> I love the feathers thing
  311. [2014-06-22 00:01:37] <thedeadlymoose> 'don't add more'
  312. [2014-06-22 00:01:56] <thedeadlymoose> I love the end note. It needs some cleanup for slight excess pretentiousness tho
  313. [2014-06-22 00:01:58] <thedeadlymoose> one sec
  314. [2014-06-22 00:02:07] <thedeadlymoose> which he idly suggested could be carried by “even the smallest of your friends”.
  315. [2014-06-22 00:02:08] <thedeadlymoose> cut idly
  316. [2014-06-22 00:02:15] <thedeadlymoose> that's an author intrusion, I think ;x
  317. [2014-06-22 00:02:41] <Zyn> oh lol
  318. [2014-06-22 00:02:48] <Zyn> whoops yeah, I'll take that out
  319. [2014-06-22 00:03:07] <thedeadlymoose> that segment is a bit where you could have his thoughts on where the staff came from -- his POV is too much "this is a generic magic thing I got b/c I'm expected to get it by genre tropes" -- think what your reaction would be, what you'd want to know about it
  320. [2014-06-22 00:03:17] <thedeadlymoose> remember the theme of knowledge --
  321. [2014-06-22 00:03:35] <thedeadlymoose> even if the master won't give away the knowledge, or won't unless he earned it, or how to make other staffs, etc -- he'd want to ask at least
  322. [2014-06-22 00:03:40] <thedeadlymoose> note some theories
  323. [2014-06-22 00:03:44] <Zyn> Oooh, okay.
  324. [2014-06-22 00:03:46] <thedeadlymoose> if he knows the right answer, maybe where he went wrong
  325. [2014-06-22 00:03:53] <thedeadlymoose> or hell
  326. [2014-06-22 00:03:57] <thedeadlymoose> even if he didn't question it then!
  327. [2014-06-22 00:04:01] <thedeadlymoose> though as a scholar he should have
  328. [2014-06-22 00:04:09] <Zyn> Yeah, it does seem pretty generic
  329. [2014-06-22 00:04:11] <thedeadlymoose> and maybe now he finds that embarrassing and gives theories / answers / both
  330. [2014-06-22 00:04:15] <Zyn> I'll make edits
  331. [2014-06-22 00:04:23] <thedeadlymoose> cool cool
  332. [2014-06-22 00:04:31] <Zyn> Sylvain /is/ supposed to sound a bit pretentious though
  333. [2014-06-22 00:04:32] <thedeadlymoose> I also think more of his persona could come across in the line edits
  334. [2014-06-22 00:04:36] <thedeadlymoose> Hahaha
  335. [2014-06-22 00:04:41] <thedeadlymoose> Well, if you can pull it off, definitely go for it
  336. [2014-06-22 00:04:46] <thedeadlymoose> Though pls do the cell phone thing lmao
  337. [2014-06-22 00:05:00] <Zyn> my headcanon is he's a Japanese red-crowned crane man who went to Paris and liked it so much he gave himself a French name
  338. [2014-06-22 00:05:02] <thedeadlymoose> It really helps to undercut pretentiousness if you have commentary joking on it
  339. [2014-06-22 00:05:03] <thedeadlymoose> Like
  340. [2014-06-22 00:05:04] <thedeadlymoose> Actually
  341. [2014-06-22 00:05:07] <thedeadlymoose> You read Djoric's recent stuff?
  342. [2014-06-22 00:05:19] <thedeadlymoose> Did you read the Saturn Deer / myth thing?
  343. [2014-06-22 00:05:25] <Zyn> The one with Able and Cain?
  344. [2014-06-22 00:05:42] <thedeadlymoose> http://www.scp-wiki.net/vision-at-betar
  345. [2014-06-22 00:05:43] <thedeadlymoose> That one
  346. [2014-06-22 00:05:56] <thedeadlymoose> Bookmark for later coz you gotta sleep soon unless you already read it
  347. [2014-06-22 00:06:03] <thedeadlymoose> It would've been gone /without/ the snarky commentary
  348. [2014-06-22 00:06:07] <thedeadlymoose> but the snarky commentary makes it amazing
  349. [2014-06-22 00:06:18] <thedeadlymoose> despite the mediocre +34 rating :P
  350. [2014-06-22 00:06:32] <Zyn> lol
  351. [2014-06-22 00:06:46] <thedeadlymoose> Zyn my headcanon is he's a Japanese red-crowned crane man who went to Paris and liked it so much he gave himself a French name
  352. [2014-06-22 00:06:47] <thedeadlymoose> I love this
  353. [2014-06-22 00:06:49] <thedeadlymoose> What if
  354. [2014-06-22 00:06:49] <Zyn> Yeah, and the journal is supposed to be a thing that's constantly being added to anyway
  355. [2014-06-22 00:06:53] <thedeadlymoose> what if we included a framing device
  356. [2014-06-22 00:06:58] <thedeadlymoose> commenting on the author of it
  357. [2014-06-22 00:07:03] <thedeadlymoose> explaining who S.A. is
  358. [2014-06-22 00:07:10] <thedeadlymoose> it doesn't have to be line notes
  359. [2014-06-22 00:07:15] <Zyn> "you're a prick, Syl."
  360. [2014-06-22 00:07:18] <thedeadlymoose> I mean, that's a great detail to include
  361. [2014-06-22 00:07:21] <Zyn> "you think birds are so cool"
  362. [2014-06-22 00:07:26] <Zyn> "I'M A CAT MAGE, BITCH"
  363. [2014-06-22 00:07:44] * Zyn kinda losing it right now
  364. [2014-06-22 00:07:46] <thedeadlymoose> "For those of you who don't know, Sylvain [last name] is a red-crowned crane man of Japanese origin who went to Paris and liked it so much he gave himself a French name"
  365. [2014-06-22 00:07:51] <thedeadlymoose> Hahahahahahaha :D
  366. [2014-06-22 00:07:52] <Zyn> Teehee
  367. [2014-06-22 00:07:57] <thedeadlymoose> I'm trying to hurry, sorry~
  368. [2014-06-22 00:08:08] <Zyn> plzto be hurry I need to sleep
  369. [2014-06-22 00:08:10] <Zyn> anything else?
  370. [2014-06-22 00:08:11] <thedeadlymoose> Basically I think you have a good thing here and I want to make it amazing XD;
  371. [2014-06-22 00:08:27] <thedeadlymoose> Yeah, the format thing we were gonna discuss :X
  372. [2014-06-22 00:08:29] <thedeadlymoose> Actually, you know
  373. [2014-06-22 00:08:33] <thedeadlymoose> why don't we discuss that more tomorrow
  374. [2014-06-22 00:08:47] <thedeadlymoose> the tl;dr is I agree with multiple choice but want to shift how we handle it
  375. [2014-06-22 00:08:58] <thedeadlymoose> make it more intuitive, idiot-proof it to a degree
  376. [2014-06-22 00:09:02] <thedeadlymoose> shall we pick that up again tomorrow?
  377. [2014-06-22 00:09:09] <Zyn> Yeah, sounds good.
  378. [2014-06-22 00:09:12] <Zyn> Goodnight, Moose!
  379. [2014-06-22 00:09:14] <thedeadlymoose> (also, feel free to hammer at my shit just as much)
  380. [2014-06-22 00:09:16] <thedeadlymoose> Goodnight! :D
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  382. [2014-06-22 00:09:34] <thedeadlymoose> okay
  383. [2014-06-22 00:09:35] <thedeadlymoose> Dexanote
  384. [2014-06-22 00:09:38] <thedeadlymoose> You around?
  385. [2014-06-22 00:09:39] <thedeadlymoose> Haha
  386. [2014-06-22 00:10:37] * thedeadlymoose guessing it's now 3:09 ._.
  387. [2014-06-22 00:12:12] <thedeadlymoose> Noting something in here for logging purposes that I sent in a tell to Zyn and will bring up again later: "A side note -- we really want a section that emphasizes how an object can be used safely, or person interacted with safely, etc. We need to counter the SCP Foundation's narrative of "the universe is scary and horrible and unknowable and the ONLY answer is to contain it and remain in...
  388. [2014-06-22 00:12:12] <thedeadlymoose> ...terror, else humanity goes bye-bye or has a horrible eternal hell-fate""
  389. [2014-06-22 00:12:13] <Dexanote> 312
  390. [2014-06-22 00:12:36] <thedeadlymoose> Shall we try and clear up your confusion?
  391. [2014-06-22 00:12:47] <thedeadlymoose> I am really anxious about being either confusing, condescending, or both :[
  392. [2014-06-22 00:12:53] <thedeadlymoose> But if you're awake enough we can go for it
  393. [2014-06-22 00:13:06] <Dexanote> Ughhhhh
  394. [2014-06-22 00:13:12] <Dexanote> when are you gonna be available tomorrow
  395. [2014-06-22 00:16:26] <thedeadlymoose> Off and on throughout the day
  396. [2014-06-22 00:16:55] <Dexanote> ok then on and off through the day can we discuss it :(
  397. [2014-06-22 00:17:09] <Dexanote> also moose
  398. [2014-06-22 00:17:26] <Dexanote> the only times youve come across as condescending is when you chain-smiley and hahahahaahaha in between
  399. [2014-06-22 00:17:31] <thedeadlymoose> :(
  400. [2014-06-22 00:17:32] <thedeadlymoose> But
  401. [2014-06-22 00:17:37] <thedeadlymoose> But I do that near constantly
  402. [2014-06-22 00:17:38] <thedeadlymoose> :(
  403. [2014-06-22 00:17:40] <Dexanote> its not every time but a few times when im mad i take it badly
  404. [2014-06-22 00:17:48] <Dexanote> also jesus you just did it XD
  405. [2014-06-22 00:18:12] * thedeadlymoose has no idea what to type that isn't one of those things D:
  406. [2014-06-22 00:18:23] <thedeadlymoose> or /me cries
  407. [2014-06-22 00:18:30] <thedeadlymoose> but that reminded me of Bunton
  408. [2014-06-22 00:18:33] <thedeadlymoose> and I wanted to die
  409. [2014-06-22 00:18:33] <thedeadlymoose> lol
  410. [2014-06-22 00:19:14] <thedeadlymoose> oh shitz
  411. [2014-06-22 00:19:15] <Dexanote> lol
  412. [2014-06-22 00:19:19] <thedeadlymoose> Dex have you read Troy's hub page
  413. [2014-06-22 00:19:20] <Dexanote> but yeah most of the time you're fine
  414. [2014-06-22 00:19:22] <thedeadlymoose> I didn't think to ask
  415. [2014-06-22 00:19:23] <Dexanote> just one or two times
  416. [2014-06-22 00:19:26] <thedeadlymoose> okay phew lol
  417. [2014-06-22 00:19:28] <Dexanote> yes
  418. [2014-06-22 00:19:36] <thedeadlymoose> ah, but had trouble processing it?
  419. [2014-06-22 00:19:53] <thedeadlymoose> ugh I need to calm down so I can sleep soon
  420. [2014-06-22 00:19:56] <thedeadlymoose> hard to switch off
  421. [2014-06-22 00:20:13] <Dexanote> also yes
  422. [2014-06-22 00:20:14] <Dexanote> YOURE FINE MOOSE
  423. [2014-06-22 00:20:19] <Dexanote> WE WILL TALK TOMORROW
  424. [2014-06-22 00:20:22] <Dexanote> I AM NO MAD WIT U
  425. [2014-06-22 00:20:25] * Dexanote huggles
  426. [2014-06-22 00:20:43] * thedeadlymoose hugs!
  427. [2014-06-22 00:20:45] <thedeadlymoose> hahahaha
  428. [2014-06-22 00:21:25] <thedeadlymoose> okay tomorrow we'll pick up and try to explain all this junk, hopefully Vivax makes an appearance
  429. [2014-06-22 00:21:44] <thedeadlymoose> if anything is gonna kill us it's that we can't get everyone online at the same time, lol
  430. [2014-06-22 00:24:28] <Dexanote> yep!
  431. [2014-06-22 00:24:30] <Dexanote> kill
  432. [2014-06-22 00:24:31] <Dexanote> death
  433. [2014-06-22 00:24:33] <Dexanote> maim
  434. [2014-06-22 00:24:37] <Dexanote> time 2 GOC
  435. [2014-06-22 00:25:25] <thedeadlymoose> lmao
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  444. [2014-06-22 19:45:03] <Dexanote> thedeadlymoose:
  445. [2014-06-22 19:45:26] * thedeadlymoose tabs over
  446. [2014-06-22 19:45:37] <Dexanote> ok
  447. [2014-06-22 19:45:42] <Dexanote> so
  448. [2014-06-22 19:45:47] <Dexanote> if we'd gone over what was required
  449. [2014-06-22 19:45:51] <Dexanote> and assigned things to do
  450. [2014-06-22 19:45:56] <Dexanote> i would have freaked out less
  451. [2014-06-22 19:46:04] <Dexanote> because there are a couple things i'm interested in here
  452. [2014-06-22 19:46:50] <Dexanote> specifically the scp as SH document, and encounter between another goi and SH
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  455. [2014-06-22 19:47:34] <Zyn> OKAY
  456. [2014-06-22 19:47:34] <Zyn> http://wanderers-sandbox.wikidot.com/zyn-s-sandbox
  457. [2014-06-22 19:47:37] <Zyn> SECOND TAB
  458. [2014-06-22 19:47:38] <Zyn> FORMAT
  459. [2014-06-22 19:47:40] <Zyn> I AM STARVING
  460. [2014-06-22 19:47:41] <Zyn> bbl
  461. [2014-06-22 19:47:48] <thedeadlymoose> lmao
  462. [2014-06-22 19:48:27] <thedeadlymoose> I think we need Vivax for the format junk although maybe I'm just being cowardly >:P
  463. [2014-06-22 19:48:32] <thedeadlymoose> I'll think on it
  464. [2014-06-22 19:49:00] <thedeadlymoose> summarizing prev convo so you can read up: Dex was mentioning we need to go over what's required & assign things to do
  465. [2014-06-22 19:49:08] <thedeadlymoose> [19:46] Dexanote because there are a couple things i'm interested in here
  466. [2014-06-22 19:49:08] <thedeadlymoose> [19:46] Dexanote specifically the scp as SH document, and encounter between another goi and SH
  467. [2014-06-22 19:49:15] <thedeadlymoose> sounds fine
  468. [2014-06-22 19:49:30] <thedeadlymoose> we're at the stage where we can write a draft, esp of tales
  469. [2014-06-22 19:49:51] <thedeadlymoose> the scp as SH document -- feel free to go for it, but we have not totally worked the format out yet.
  470. [2014-06-22 19:49:58] <Dexanote> I'll make shit up
  471. [2014-06-22 19:49:58] <thedeadlymoose> Zyn has the draft in the sandbox, but it's not final
  472. [2014-06-22 19:50:02] <Dexanote> i see it
  473. [2014-06-22 19:50:04] * thedeadlymoose nods
  474. [2014-06-22 19:50:19] <thedeadlymoose> If you're cool writing a thing that needs reworking, go for it, make shit up, try to hit points already mentioned
  475. [2014-06-22 19:50:27] <Dexanote> kind of having... like
  476. [2014-06-22 19:50:33] <Dexanote> a fairly different idea of what i wanna go for
  477. [2014-06-22 19:50:37] <Dexanote> but i'll see what i can do
  478. [2014-06-22 19:50:50] <thedeadlymoose> Pitch the idea
  479. [2014-06-22 19:50:56] <thedeadlymoose> We can see if we can make an amalgamation
  480. [2014-06-22 19:50:59] <thedeadlymoose> What do you have in mind?
  481. [2014-06-22 19:52:04] <Dexanote> no i like
  482. [2014-06-22 19:52:10] <Dexanote> well
  483. [2014-06-22 19:52:23] <Dexanote> More like a diary/bestiary/almanac style piece on an SCP
  484. [2014-06-22 19:53:01] <Dexanote> i mean looking at the proposed format points it could work, but I can't see the Hand using this kind of format for every SCP
  485. [2014-06-22 19:53:02] <thedeadlymoose> Vivax mentioned something similar, yeah
  486. [2014-06-22 19:53:11] <Dexanote> or every piece/entry
  487. [2014-06-22 19:53:12] <thedeadlymoose> Ffff
  488. [2014-06-22 19:53:13] <Dexanote> you know?
  489. [2014-06-22 19:53:13] <Dexanote> Like
  490. [2014-06-22 19:53:22] <Dexanote> as an example
  491. [2014-06-22 19:53:42] <Dexanote> an alchemist is not gonna describe Able in the same manner as Eternal Flame
  492. [2014-06-22 19:53:55] <Dexanote> or my money dragons in the same way as 093
  493. [2014-06-22 19:54:13] <Dexanote> (i say alchemist but really mean 'general Hand scholar')
  494. [2014-06-22 19:58:22] <Dexanote> anyway
  495. [2014-06-22 19:58:25] <Dexanote> i'll figure out something
  496. [2014-06-22 19:59:00] <Dexanote> also I have an idea for the inter-GOI tale but i think Id like to do that alone
  497. [2014-06-22 20:04:49] <thedeadlymoose> go for it
  498. [2014-06-22 20:04:54] <thedeadlymoose> we'll likely do more than one btw
  499. [2014-06-22 20:05:04] <thedeadlymoose> regarding the format -- we're definitely gonna need to change from the example
  500. [2014-06-22 20:05:15] <thedeadlymoose> but the example is so we have something to start from
  501. [2014-06-22 20:14:02] <Zyn> HELLO
  502. [2014-06-22 20:14:04] <Zyn> I AM BACK
  503. [2014-06-22 20:14:07] <Zyn> AND FULL OF SUSHI
  504. [2014-06-22 20:14:12] <Zyn> asdfghjkl;
  505. [2014-06-22 20:14:14] <Zyn> anyway
  506. [2014-06-22 20:14:17] <thedeadlymoose> Hiiiiiiiii
  507. [2014-06-22 20:14:18] <thedeadlymoose> Okay
  508. [2014-06-22 20:14:20] <thedeadlymoose> So
  509. [2014-06-22 20:14:22] <Zyn> I agree with Dexaboat
  510. [2014-06-22 20:14:35] <thedeadlymoose> Do you wanna talk format now or do you wanna shift to some Tales? ---oops, continue
  511. [2014-06-22 20:14:46] <Zyn> I do not see everyone as writing things in same format
  512. [2014-06-22 20:14:47] <Zyn> though
  513. [2014-06-22 20:15:01] <Zyn> I do believe that there should be some info kept consistent
  514. [2014-06-22 20:15:09] <Zyn> if not terminology
  515. [2014-06-22 20:15:12] <Zyn> Did you look at the draft
  516. [2014-06-22 20:15:17] <Zyn> it was kind of hurried
  517. [2014-06-22 20:15:49] <thedeadlymoose> I did. I'm thinking
  518. [2014-06-22 20:15:54] <thedeadlymoose> Part of it is that I'm starving :[
  519. [2014-06-22 20:17:03] <Zyn> :<
  520. [2014-06-22 20:17:05] <Zyn> I'm sorry
  521. [2014-06-22 20:17:07] <thedeadlymoose> Let's talk though
  522. [2014-06-22 20:17:13] <thedeadlymoose> I'll say what I already think and we'll start food
  523. [2014-06-22 20:17:15] <Zyn> you should eat, man
  524. [2014-06-22 20:17:22] <thedeadlymoose> *I'll start food
  525. [2014-06-22 20:17:26] <thedeadlymoose> then come back to see replies
  526. [2014-06-22 20:17:37] <Zyn> okies
  527. [2014-06-22 20:18:15] <thedeadlymoose> #1 -- I'm confused, looking at this, as to how it should be followed. The example I have is the Spirit Staff -- but that bullet point format is actually bothering me a lot. I would like the same info in a more diary/almanac/field guide format much better
  528. [2014-06-22 20:18:21] <thedeadlymoose> possibly even with elements from dossiers
  529. [2014-06-22 20:18:27] <thedeadlymoose> one sec I'll get example
  530. [2014-06-22 20:19:12] <Zyn> it doesn't have to be bullets
  531. [2014-06-22 20:19:23] <thedeadlymoose> the examples aren't as good as I thought they were lol
  532. [2014-06-22 20:19:26] <Zyn> I didn't really know how else to convey notes
  533. [2014-06-22 20:19:31] <Riemann> It could be flowers.
  534. [2014-06-22 20:19:34] <Riemann> Make love not war
  535. [2014-06-22 20:19:52] <thedeadlymoose> I think for the spirit staff, more of it should be written out
  536. [2014-06-22 20:19:57] <thedeadlymoose> the main body of it
  537. [2014-06-22 20:20:01] <thedeadlymoose> THEN we could add on notes
  538. [2014-06-22 20:20:07] <Zyn> ah, okay
  539. [2014-06-22 20:20:20] <Zyn> I put the format in bullets because those are things to include
  540. [2014-06-22 20:20:26] <thedeadlymoose> As for the style guide -- I still dunno how to follow it. :X I think it would help if we got some examples of what we mean by diary/almanac/field guide format
  541. [2014-06-22 20:20:30] <thedeadlymoose> I know all of us agree on that
  542. [2014-06-22 20:20:40] <Zyn> The style guide was more for info
  543. [2014-06-22 20:20:42] <thedeadlymoose> and I'll work on getting some in a bit, too
  544. [2014-06-22 20:20:47] <Zyn> like, the what to include
  545. [2014-06-22 20:20:50] <Zyn> not so much the how
  546. [2014-06-22 20:20:51] <thedeadlymoose> Yeah -- I mean looking at it, I have no clue how to follow it :X
  547. [2014-06-22 20:20:54] <thedeadlymoose> Ahhh kk
  548. [2014-06-22 20:20:58] <thedeadlymoose> Okay cool
  549. [2014-06-22 20:21:04] <Zyn> that's why bullets, lol
  550. [2014-06-22 20:21:09] <thedeadlymoose> I maybe got the wrong impression from the Spirit Staff example
  551. [2014-06-22 20:21:15] <thedeadlymoose> because it follows it v. literally XD
  552. [2014-06-22 20:21:21] <thedeadlymoose> That leads to my second thing
  553. [2014-06-22 20:21:30] <thedeadlymoose> #2 -- wait, this was my tell from last night
  554. [2014-06-22 20:21:33] <thedeadlymoose> I'll copy
  555. [2014-06-22 20:21:59] <thedeadlymoose> "A side note -- we really want a section that emphasizes how an object can be used safely, or person interacted with safely, etc. We need to counter the SCP Foundation's narrative of "the universe is scary and horrible and unknowable and the ONLY answer is to contain it and remain in terror, else humanity goes bye-bye or has a horrible eternal hell-fate""
  556. [2014-06-22 20:22:18] <thedeadlymoose> Approach might be a large part of that, but ... hmmmm
  557. [2014-06-22 20:22:56] <thedeadlymoose> afk tho
  558. [2014-06-22 20:32:09] <thedeadlymoose> back
  559. [2014-06-22 20:32:17] <thedeadlymoose> Maybe Approach could include that
  560. [2014-06-22 20:33:40] <thedeadlymoose> #3 is an issue with the Apparatus/Entity/Location thing -- it forces us to split things up into multiple partially identical sections. That's confusing to follow. As opposed to, for example, an "Object Class"
  561. [2014-06-22 20:33:43] <Zyn> That's what I was thinking
  562. [2014-06-22 20:33:58] <Zyn> Although
  563. [2014-06-22 20:34:17] <Zyn> I originally had one giant compiled thing
  564. [2014-06-22 20:34:23] <Zyn> but the information got hard to organize
  565. [2014-06-22 20:34:40] <Zyn> once we have a better idea of the format, we can pare down the required info
  566. [2014-06-22 20:34:51] <Zyn> do you get a better idea of the "loyalty" aspect, though?
  567. [2014-06-22 20:35:11] <Zyn> the thing is, for apparatus, there's more info because those things can be "used" d:
  568. [2014-06-22 20:35:42] <thedeadlymoose> That's not really loyalty so much as being 'in sync' with a user <.<
  569. [2014-06-22 20:35:43] <Zyn> But I was trying to go for a different take, like... these things should be respected. They can be companions, keys to unlock your inner potential, some people /need/ them to realize their true strengths
  570. [2014-06-22 20:35:57] <Zyn> "Synchronicity" seems too... flowery?
  571. [2014-06-22 20:36:02] <thedeadlymoose> We could do that, but -- we shouldn't have something like Apparatus: X Title -- because it makes the formatting less intuitive
  572. [2014-06-22 20:36:09] <Zyn> mkay
  573. [2014-06-22 20:36:13] <Zyn> You want to like
  574. [2014-06-22 20:36:14] <thedeadlymoose> We could have, for example Name: X / Type: Apparatus
  575. [2014-06-22 20:36:20] <Zyn> take the text I have
  576. [2014-06-22 20:36:22] <Zyn> and edit it
  577. [2014-06-22 20:36:25] <Zyn> ?
  578. [2014-06-22 20:36:32] <Zyn> That way we don't have to discuss things one by one
  579. [2014-06-22 20:36:35] <thedeadlymoose> I can do that sure, though I'm still floundering haha
  580. [2014-06-22 20:36:42] <Zyn> since what I gave is pretty rough, lol
  581. [2014-06-22 20:36:54] <thedeadlymoose> I need to get examples of field guide / almanac / diary description junk
  582. [2014-06-22 20:37:01] <thedeadlymoose> well I guess the diary description stuff is obvious
  583. [2014-06-22 20:37:12] <thedeadlymoose> Oooh
  584. [2014-06-22 20:37:21] <thedeadlymoose> We could have a section for 'Thoughts' or something
  585. [2014-06-22 20:37:30] <thedeadlymoose> Different peoples' opinions on a thing
  586. [2014-06-22 20:37:39] <thedeadlymoose> Since Notes seems to be mainly pragmatic?
  587. [2014-06-22 20:37:42] <thedeadlymoose> Or... Hmmmm
  588. [2014-06-22 20:39:38] <Zyn> Idk if all the stuff really needs to be labeled
  589. [2014-06-22 20:40:09] <thedeadlymoose> Honestly I think what we should do now is try to get those examples
  590. [2014-06-22 20:40:11] <thedeadlymoose> Let's go for it
  591. [2014-06-22 20:40:24] <thedeadlymoose> (though I'm going afk first coz foodz!)
  592. [2014-06-22 20:40:42] <thedeadlymoose> And, you're right -- some can be "Labeled Section" and some can be a suggested inclusion
  593. [2014-06-22 20:40:50] <thedeadlymoose> like diary sections / etc could be under Notes
  594. [2014-06-22 20:41:04] <thedeadlymoose> section suggestion: "Observations"
  595. [2014-06-22 21:30:42] <thedeadlymoose> Zyn, you around?
  596. [2014-06-22 21:33:32] <Zyn> ish
  597. [2014-06-22 21:33:34] <Zyn> what's up?
  598. [2014-06-22 21:35:59] <thedeadlymoose> are you able to look for examples of field guide-y almanac-y stuff?
  599. [2014-06-22 21:36:02] <thedeadlymoose> same question, Dexanote
  600. [2014-06-22 21:36:07] * thedeadlymoose just starting to google
  601. [2014-06-22 21:37:26] <Dexanote> http://www.nhbs.com/images/jackets_resizer_xlarge/15/153816_2.jpg
  602. [2014-06-22 21:37:40] <thedeadlymoose> http://www.earlyamerica.com/review/2003_winter_spring/images/Almanac.jpg
  603. [2014-06-22 21:39:07] <thedeadlymoose> http://drtlibrary.files.wordpress.com/2009/01/sc-old-rough-and-ready-almanac-1849wtmk1.jpg
  604. [2014-06-22 21:39:16] <thedeadlymoose> Zyn: Did we think of events? Above example is an event
  605. [2014-06-22 21:40:53] <thedeadlymoose> next 2 examples are a bit too fantasy ish but still
  606. [2014-06-22 21:40:54] <thedeadlymoose> http://fc08.deviantart.net/fs71/i/2010/132/2/c/Bestiary___Manticore_by_D_Oedinger.jpg
  607. [2014-06-22 21:41:20] <thedeadlymoose> http://th05.deviantart.net/fs71/PRE/i/2010/132/d/f/Bestiary___Wendigo_by_D_Oedinger.jpg
  608. [2014-06-22 21:41:36] <thedeadlymoose> though that's a neat wendigo. pity they're basically art pieces
  609. [2014-06-22 21:42:47] <thedeadlymoose> http://www.ebooktreasures.org/a-medieval-bestiary/ < linked for the descriptions; 'It combines description of the physical nature and habits of animals with elaboration on the moral or spiritual significance of these characteristics." " The text and images of the bestiary work together and individually to communicate morally edifying material, such as might be included in medieval sermons,...
  610. [2014-06-22 21:42:47] <thedeadlymoose> ...in an appealing and accessible manner."
  611. [2014-06-22 21:44:59] <thedeadlymoose> http://www.imagocorvi.com/images/bestiary4.jpg best eagle lol. the nice thing with Hand Objects is that they can include illustrations an' stuff
  612. [2014-06-22 21:45:03] <Zyn> hurr
  613. [2014-06-22 21:45:54] <Zyn> I still have that butterfly shark
  614. [2014-06-22 21:46:01] <Zyn> I'll upload the image sometime
  615. [2014-06-22 21:46:12] <thedeadlymoose> http://www.imagocorvi.com/bestiary.htm more pix
  616. [2014-06-22 21:48:21] <thedeadlymoose> tho really google image search for 'bestiary' has an amazing amount of shtuff
  617. [2014-06-22 21:49:40] <thedeadlymoose> of course so is the wiki article http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bestiary
  618. [2014-06-22 21:49:49] <thedeadlymoose> "A few observations found in bestiaries, such as the migration of birds, were discounted by the natural philosophers of later centuries, only to be rediscovered in the modern scientific era." > Hahaha. Wow.
  619. [2014-06-22 21:50:25] <thedeadlymoose> "even if the bestiary accounts of certain animals was found to not exist, it was crucial to continue believing in the animal because of the claim the Church made to its existence." > this gives me ideas for animals that only exist b/c belief
  620. [2014-06-22 21:57:01] <Zyn> marp
  621. [2014-06-22 22:00:19] <thedeadlymoose> http://bestiary.ca/ well we won't run out of ideas for animals lol
  622. [2014-06-22 22:00:45] <thedeadlymoose> though
  623. [2014-06-22 22:00:52] <thedeadlymoose> I think I should look for field guide stuff for format
  624. [2014-06-22 22:00:57] <thedeadlymoose> dex's picture is still the primary format
  625. [2014-06-22 22:01:16] <Zyn> hrrr
  626. [2014-06-22 22:01:35] <thedeadlymoose> http://www.nhbs.com/images/jackets_resizer_xlarge/15/153816_2.jpg > Remark (Optional) Description, Habits, Calls, Conservation Status
  627. [2014-06-22 22:02:11] <thedeadlymoose> interesting that they don't use Enter
  628. [2014-06-22 22:02:15] <thedeadlymoose> b/c space, obviously
  629. [2014-06-22 22:03:05] <thedeadlymoose> http://birdandmoon.com/images/christmasfieldguide.jpg haha
  630. [2014-06-22 22:03:11] <thedeadlymoose> no format but cute
  631. [2014-06-22 22:04:08] <thedeadlymoose> http://10000birds.com/kaufman-field-guide-to-nature-of-new-england-a-field-guide-review-by-an-aspiring-naturalist.htm another format
  632. [2014-06-22 22:04:37] <thedeadlymoose> http://10000birds.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/12/kk.herons3.jpg relevant pic
  633. [2014-06-22 22:04:46] <thedeadlymoose> check out the format
  634. [2014-06-22 22:05:24] <thedeadlymoose> COMMON NAME [space] /Latin name
  635. [2014-06-22 22:06:00] <thedeadlymoose> then a description, again unlabled, segueing again Adult/Juvenile physical descriptions
  636. [2014-06-22 22:06:34] <thedeadlymoose> Note also that in both cases there are multiple animals [objects/etc?] described -- at the top is a section describing generalities
  637. [2014-06-22 22:06:50] <thedeadlymoose> We could expand on that for cases where there are multiple variations of a thing
  638. [2014-06-22 22:07:15] <thedeadlymoose> it could be interesting to have two clearly separate guides tacked together with contradictory information
  639. [2014-06-22 22:07:50] <thedeadlymoose> and/or notes supplementing another author's insufficient information
  640. [2014-06-22 22:08:18] <thedeadlymoose> [22:07] thedeadlymoose it could be interesting to have two clearly separate guides tacked together with contradictory information > Forgot to add "on the same subject matter / creature / object / event / etc"
  641. [2014-06-22 22:08:26] <thedeadlymoose> Or alternatively reference other contradictory info
  642. [2014-06-22 22:09:04] <thedeadlymoose> re: the insufficient information -- for example, imagine if that page on herons was missing the pix and didn't explain what a heron actually was, and people from Earth didn't know what herons were
  643. [2014-06-22 22:09:10] <thedeadlymoose> someone else could annotate and add that info
  644. [2014-06-22 22:09:23] <thedeadlymoose> Overall----
  645. [2014-06-22 22:09:55] <thedeadlymoose> I think it would be promising to go with the conceit that this is a computerized database being formed for Hand use, including scans of things and articles that only exist in cyberspace
  646. [2014-06-22 22:10:16] <thedeadlymoose> of course there's the problem of 'what if the Foundation/GOC/enemies get ahold of this'... so I dunno, hrm >_<
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  648. [2014-06-22 22:10:50] <thedeadlymoose> maybe it's under magical protection for Hand members only (not checking from a roster except for specific files created by specific groups -- but anyone identifying as Hand and NOT Foundation/GOC)
  649. [2014-06-22 22:11:21] <thedeadlymoose> Maybe their security clearance level stuff is layers of magical protection -- one must swear to do no harm to the Hand or subjects of what they're reading, etc
  650. [2014-06-22 22:11:31] <thedeadlymoose> or share with those who intend harm
  651. [2014-06-22 22:11:33] <thedeadlymoose> hrm
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  654. [2014-06-22 22:12:25] <thedeadlymoose> wb Dexanote
  655. [2014-06-22 22:12:32] <thedeadlymoose> what's the last thing you got?
  656. [2014-06-22 22:12:36] <thedeadlymoose> also, Zyn, thoughts?
  657. [2014-06-22 22:12:41] <Dexanote> i didnt disconnect
  658. [2014-06-22 22:12:52] <Dexanote> i gotta reboot CIRC sometimes to fix lag
  659. [2014-06-22 22:13:01] <Dexanote> give me the last like... two or three posts
  660. [2014-06-22 22:13:47] <thedeadlymoose> kk
  661. [2014-06-22 22:13:51] <Zyn> my thoughts are I have too many thoughts
  662. [2014-06-22 22:13:54] <thedeadlymoose> [22:09] thedeadlymoose Overall----
  663. [2014-06-22 22:13:54] <thedeadlymoose> [22:09] thedeadlymoose I think it would be promising to go with the conceit that this is a computerized database being formed for Hand use, including scans of things and articles that only exist in cyberspace
  664. [2014-06-22 22:13:54] <thedeadlymoose> [22:10] thedeadlymoose of course there's the problem of 'what if the Foundation/GOC/enemies get ahold of this'... so I dunno, hrm >_<
  665. [2014-06-22 22:13:54] <thedeadlymoose> [22:10] |<-- Dexanote has left irc.synirc.net (Client exited)
  666. [2014-06-22 22:13:54] <thedeadlymoose> [22:10] thedeadlymoose maybe it's under magical protection for Hand members only (not checking from a roster except for specific files created by specific groups -- but anyone identifying as Hand and NOT Foundation/GOC)
  667. [2014-06-22 22:13:54] <thedeadlymoose> [22:11] thedeadlymoose Maybe their security clearance level stuff is layers of magical protection -- one must swear to do no harm to the Hand or subjects of what they're reading, etc
  668. [2014-06-22 22:13:54] <thedeadlymoose> [22:11] thedeadlymoose or share with those who intend harm
  669. [2014-06-22 22:13:54] <thedeadlymoose> [22:11] thedeadlymoose hrm
  670. [2014-06-22 22:14:00] <thedeadlymoose> Zyn: Start blabbering! XD
  671. [2014-06-22 22:14:02] <thedeadlymoose> Hahaha
  672. [2014-06-22 22:14:09] <thedeadlymoose> Well, if that works for you, anyway
  673. [2014-06-22 22:14:19] <Dexanote> well
  674. [2014-06-22 22:14:19] <Dexanote> ok
  675. [2014-06-22 22:14:27] <Dexanote> thedeadlymoose [22:11] thedeadlymoose Maybe their security clearance level stuff is layers of magical protection -- one must swear to do no harm to the Hand or subjects of what they're reading, etc
  676. [2014-06-22 22:14:30] <Dexanote> i don't like this at ALL
  677. [2014-06-22 22:14:54] <Zyn> s.gnd.kgxdng fcj
  678. [2014-06-22 22:14:55] <Dexanote> its free information at the library. anyone can read it. Thats the beauty of it - and why the Foundation fears them, in my mind. One of the reasons.
  679. [2014-06-22 22:15:39] <Dexanote> Now... we can have a similar concept, but I'm a bit against having a 'clearance level' of any kind for the Hand.
  680. [2014-06-22 22:15:40] <thedeadlymoose> Dex: I meant for very specific, personal shit
  681. [2014-06-22 22:15:53] <Dexanote> Can you give an example?
  682. [2014-06-22 22:15:57] <thedeadlymoose> Zyn's Bird Staff
  683. [2014-06-22 22:16:19] <thedeadlymoose> Like if that staff had other, even more personal details included -- it might be magically protected info
  684. [2014-06-22 22:16:29] <thedeadlymoose> To protect the staff's custodian
  685. [2014-06-22 22:16:48] <thedeadlymoose> also don't take me literally with security clearance level
  686. [2014-06-22 22:16:59] <thedeadlymoose> just talking equivalents and such
  687. [2014-06-22 22:17:40] <Dexanote> I'd just think the custodian wouldn't actually be presented as a point of information, tbh. Maybe significant weilders through history, but i'm not sure if it'd hold up to date information on the holder (unless it was a single person through history)
  688. [2014-06-22 22:17:42] <Dexanote> OR
  689. [2014-06-22 22:18:23] <thedeadlymoose> errrrrrrr
  690. [2014-06-22 22:18:31] <thedeadlymoose> in Zyn's Bird Staff it's made uniquely for the wielder
  691. [2014-06-22 22:18:36] <thedeadlymoose> who is still alive
  692. [2014-06-22 22:18:38] <thedeadlymoose> it's a recent creation
  693. [2014-06-22 22:18:50] <Dexanote> Hm.
  694. [2014-06-22 22:19:15] <thedeadlymoose> it seems case by case, it's just that inevitably there's gonna be personal info in there, I think
  695. [2014-06-22 22:19:27] <Dexanote> "Additional information on [person] can be found in [other book on this kind of information, volume xx]?
  696. [2014-06-22 22:19:51] <Dexanote> Like, its a scholarly work. Crossreferencing is likely common.
  697. [2014-06-22 22:20:14] <Dexanote> I mean
  698. [2014-06-22 22:20:24] <thedeadlymoose> Sure, although keep in mind these aren't books
  699. [2014-06-22 22:20:28] <thedeadlymoose> unless we frame them that way
  700. [2014-06-22 22:20:38] <thedeadlymoose> and many of them aren't scholarly works by scholars
  701. [2014-06-22 22:20:47] <Dexanote> Excerpts from specific works, perhaps...
  702. [2014-06-22 22:20:52] <thedeadlymoose> yeah that'd be awesome
  703. [2014-06-22 22:20:58] <Dexanote> No I'm peaking on Zyns piece speficially, i dunno how that happened
  704. [2014-06-22 22:21:06] <Dexanote> like a photocopy of that particular page, i mean
  705. [2014-06-22 22:21:28] <thedeadlymoose> certainly a lot of them are scholars and presumably the format they're trying to follow is influenced by scholars
  706. [2014-06-22 22:21:30] <thedeadlymoose> ...I'm confused
  707. [2014-06-22 22:21:45] <thedeadlymoose> regardless, also --- crossreferencing should be common yeah
  708. [2014-06-22 22:21:51] <Dexanote> I mean from what I recall (from reading it over seven hours ago) the bird staff was framed as an entry in an encyclopedia type work
  709. [2014-06-22 22:22:12] <Dexanote> thats the angle im approaching it from i might be wrong
  710. [2014-06-22 22:23:26] <Dexanote> :( sorry
  711. [2014-06-22 22:25:32] <Dexanote> guys?
  712. [2014-06-22 22:28:59] <thedeadlymoose> I had to get laundry
  713. [2014-06-22 22:29:01] =-= Riemann is now known as rewrite
  714. [2014-06-22 22:29:11] <Dexanote> ok yeah i thought i'd pissed you both off
  715. [2014-06-22 22:29:25] <Dexanote> "jesus christ dex keep up holy fuck we went through this twice now"
  716. [2014-06-22 22:29:26] <Dexanote> etc
  717. [2014-06-22 22:29:27] <thedeadlymoose> lol
  718. [2014-06-22 22:29:29] <thedeadlymoose> no
  719. [2014-06-22 22:29:44] <thedeadlymoose> we weren't framing it as an entry in an encyclopedia type work
  720. [2014-06-22 22:29:47] <thedeadlymoose> but we could
  721. [2014-06-22 22:29:53] =-= rewrite is now known as Riemann
  722. [2014-06-22 22:29:56] <Dexanote> COMING SOON TO A THEATRE NEAR YOU. "RAGIN MOOSE AND ZYN THE FIEND."
  723. [2014-06-22 22:29:58] <thedeadlymoose> lmao
  724. [2014-06-22 22:30:00] <Dexanote> anyway yeah
  725. [2014-06-22 22:30:00] <thedeadlymoose> our problems are twofold at the moment
  726. [2014-06-22 22:30:09] <thedeadlymoose> #1 narrowing down from the billion ideas
  727. [2014-06-22 22:30:18] <thedeadlymoose> #2 Vivax is gonna come in tomorrow and upend errything :[
  728. [2014-06-22 22:31:15] <thedeadlymoose> http://10000birds.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/12/kk.flowers.jpg this flowers page may be a good co-example with the herons page
  729. [2014-06-22 22:31:53] <Zyn> marp
  730. [2014-06-22 22:32:53] <thedeadlymoose> hrm
  731. [2014-06-22 22:33:05] <thedeadlymoose> have you guys seen the herman fuller stuff
  732. [2014-06-22 22:33:51] <thedeadlymoose> they made a template http://www.scp-wiki.net/component:hf-poster
  733. [2014-06-22 22:34:01] <thedeadlymoose> I haven't yet seen how it looks in practice
  734. [2014-06-22 22:34:26] <thedeadlymoose> oh man I'm so tired :[
  735. [2014-06-22 22:40:25] <Zyn> saaaaaaaaame
  736. [2014-06-22 22:41:27] <Dexanote> go to bed you two
  737. [2014-06-22 22:41:45] <Zyn> no
  738. [2014-06-22 23:20:16] [ERROR] Connection to irc://irc.synirc.net/ (irc://irc.synirc.net/) reset. [[Help][Get more information about this error online][faq connection.reset]]
  739. [2014-06-22 23:21:23] -->| YOU (thedeudlymoose) have joined #Squamatism
  740. [2014-06-22 23:21:23] =-= Topic for #Squamatism is ``This is the channel for the Die Hard Serpant's Hand Group for the SCP Foundation writing contest.''
  741. [2014-06-22 23:21:23] =-= Topic for #Squamatism was set by Vivax on Friday, May 30, 2014 7:20:37 AM
  742. [2014-06-22 23:22:10] |<-- thedeadlymoose has left irc.synirc.net (NickServ (GHOST command used by thedeudlymoose))
  743. [2014-06-22 23:22:56] =-= YOU are now known as thedeadlymoose
  744. [2014-06-22 23:23:43] =-= Mode #squamatism +ao thedeadlymoose thedeadlymoose by ChanServ
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