DF Game Club: The Raven Chapter 1 (part 3)

(07:03:12 AM) Permafry_42: speaking of which, I'll be starting the stream in 5
(07:03:13 AM) Permafry_42: 4
(07:03:13 AM) Permafry_42: 3
(07:03:15 AM) Permafry_42: 2
(07:03:17 AM) Permafry_42: 1
(07:04:16 AM) Cheeseness: Ha ha, best "Enjoy" ever
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(07:04:46 AM) Cheeseness: Syd: Have you had a chance to play this much yet?
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(07:05:41 AM) Syd: I've been distracted by other games. I fully intend to come back to it though
(07:06:10 AM) Cheeseness: Yay, music
(07:06:31 AM) DF_Gabe: did he just put ice in his pocket?
(07:06:38 AM) Cheeseness: Tongs
(07:06:39 AM) medacris: Gosh, this game is so delightful.
(07:06:49 AM) DF_Gabe: i thought he said "ice and tongs"
(07:06:56 AM) medacris: I saw this guy at school buy ice in a cup, and walk down the hall eating it.
(07:07:03 AM) DF_Gabe: i'll just keep imagining him with ice in his pocket
(07:07:18 AM) Cheeseness: Yeah, I thought the same too :D
(07:07:30 AM) medacris: "Constable, why are you dripping?"
(07:07:35 AM) Cheeseness: You have to run to where you use the ice quickly so it doesn't melt
(07:07:42 AM) Permafry_42: forgive me if i forget anything
(07:07:48 AM) DF_Gabe: someone spilled kool-aid on the bed
(07:07:52 AM) ***ion watches the slideshow
(07:08:06 AM) Cheeseness: Still running slow for you ion? :(
(07:08:19 AM) ion: yeah
(07:08:45 AM) Syd: Perma, I don't want to you stop this stream to mess with OBS settings, but for Costume Quest, it might be best to drop the output down to 720p to help those with lower bandwidth.
(07:08:59 AM) Permafry_42: ok sounds good
(07:09:03 AM) medacris: Nobody was murdered, it's just hard to drink Kool-Aid on a train.
(07:09:10 AM) Cheeseness: Yeah, that' d probably be a good idea for future sessions
(07:09:16 AM) Cheeseness: We're on a boat now, medacris :D
(07:09:35 AM) ion: I’m not sure that will help, Twitch has been slow for me for a long time even with lower-quality streams.
(07:09:43 AM) ion: It used to work just fine.
(07:09:48 AM) medacris: Yeah, CQ doesn't respond well to lag, I've found
(07:10:02 AM) medacris: Beautiful.
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(07:10:49 AM) DF_Gabe: is this a translation from another language?
(07:11:01 AM) Syd: The developers are German, I believe
(07:11:07 AM) SirSlade: Yeah, the game was natively made in German
(07:11:21 AM) ion: Spoiler alert: YOU were the Raven all along.
(07:11:25 AM) Cheeseness: Yeah
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(07:11:42 AM) Syd: That kool-aid stain was The Raven this whole time
(07:11:51 AM) SirSlade: Multiple Personalities, oh no!
(07:12:28 AM) DF_Gabe: that's a ridic amount of voice acting
(07:12:37 AM) medacris: Ah, thanks for the correction, Cheese
(07:12:52 AM) medacris: @DF_Gabe: It's very well done for a dub
(07:13:37 AM) SirSlade: They did do very well with the English voice acting. Marco, who was here last week, did the directing and a lot of translation for it, iirc.
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(07:13:57 AM) flesk: Hi there.
(07:13:58 AM) Cheeseness: Yeah, he did
(07:13:59 AM) Syd: Hey flesk
(07:14:00 AM) Cheeseness: Hey flesk
(07:15:04 AM) dfMark: Hey guys
(07:15:20 AM) Permafry_42: hey mark!
(07:15:20 AM) DF_Gabe: this dude is pretty loquacious. he's gonna need a glass of water soon.
(07:15:44 AM) DF_Gabe: hey, mark. did you get the weekend wrong too?
(07:15:46 AM) medacris: Hi Flesk!
(07:15:51 AM) Cheeseness: Some exciting footsliding there :D
(07:15:56 AM) SirSlade: I was wondering about that on the first stream. He does talk to himself a lot.
(07:15:59 AM) flesk: Hi meda.
(07:16:05 AM) dfMark: Maybe
(07:16:06 AM) flesk: Is this episode 3?
(07:16:09 AM) Permafry_42: pretty sure that's everything in the room
(07:16:14 AM) Permafry_42: episode 1 part 3
(07:16:19 AM) flesk: I don't remember if I was around last week.
(07:16:23 AM) Cheeseness: flexk: The last part of episode 1
(07:16:28 AM) flesk: Ah, right.
(07:16:31 AM) dfMark: Ha ha, not today eh?
(07:16:42 AM) DF_Gabe: next week
(07:16:45 AM) flesk: So it's only the second or third session with The Raven?
(07:16:55 AM) Syd: Third
(07:16:57 AM) medacris: Inspector Legrand IS Exposition Man. Coming 2013.
(07:16:59 AM) Permafry_42: love this entire conversation
(07:17:06 AM) Cheeseness: Third. That'll cover the episode and we'll come back to it another time
(07:17:39 AM) SirSlade: Ahh, the old mystery troupe: The Butler Did it!
(07:17:41 AM) DF_Gabe: interesting camera choice
(07:18:34 AM) dfMark: K see ya next week!
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(07:19:01 AM) Cheeseness: DF_Gabe: There are some awkward angles, but on the whole, the game feels very solidly shot
(07:19:03 AM) flesk: Haven't noticed before, but the hair on the characters look a bit strange.
(07:19:42 AM) Permafry_42: hey sorry for any stream issues
(07:19:44 AM) flesk: Is the stream lagging or is that just on my end?
(07:19:59 AM) Permafry_42: it should be fixed now
(07:20:06 AM) DF_Gabe: yeah, looks like pretty high production values
(07:20:21 AM) ion: flesk: I really wish they’d apply the ambient occlusion they’re using elsewhere to the characters. I find it distracting that the hair doesn’t cast a shadow to the skin and the insides of their mouths are too illuminated.
(07:20:42 AM) Cheeseness: The animations are probably the only place that it falls down, I think (they're not horrible, but they don't feel quite as polished as the other aspects of the game)
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(07:22:26 AM) DF_Gabe: i'm gonna have to bail. hopefully i can join next week! if not, i'll be in one of the later ones. i recommend using the tongs on the butler!
(07:22:40 AM) Permafry_42: k cya!
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(07:22:49 AM) Cheeseness: Alrighty, thanks DF_G :D
(07:22:56 AM) flesk: ion: Yeah, that that would add to the look of the characters.
(07:23:06 AM) Cheeseness: Gah, my computer is sad >_<
(07:23:57 AM) flesk: Anything you can do to cheer it up?
(07:24:02 AM) ion: Spoiler alert: GLaDOS is the Raven.
(07:24:18 AM) Syd: I suspected that plant in the corner
(07:24:24 AM) Permafry_42: Zuko is the Raven
(07:24:34 AM) Permafry_42: already got the stones
(07:25:18 AM) medacris: Mental image of trying to handcuff a plant.
(07:25:45 AM) Cheeseness: :D
(07:25:50 AM) Permafry_42: XD
(07:25:56 AM) flesk: The characters look pretty good at a distance though. Maybe it's that they've got the rough movements of them down pretty good.
(07:25:59 AM) Syd: Need a lot of handcuffs to make sure that all the branches were properly restrained
(07:26:21 AM) flesk: I've seen games with a lot less realistic looking walk cycles and the like.
(07:26:28 AM) flesk: The Runaway series come to mind.
(07:26:33 AM) medacris: Well, if this game does well, they can up the budget and do better animation.
(07:27:33 AM) flesk: That would be nice. Probably won't benefit this game though.
(07:27:33 AM) ion: When this angle happened, i was like “seriously?” :-P
(07:28:28 AM) flesk: There has been some complaints on the Steam forums about them not doing things to fix issues with the BoUT games. It's understandable with their tight budgets though.
(07:29:05 AM) Syd: I wonder if this angle was on purpose or not
(07:29:20 AM) flesk: ion: Looks kind of like something you'd see in a Larry game if it was to cover up a woman sunbathing in the nude.
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(07:29:49 AM) flesk: I don't remember if there's anything like that in Love for Sail. Could be though.
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(07:30:15 AM) flesk: There's a nudist deck on the ship if I remember correctly.
(07:30:20 AM) SirSlade: This browser sure doesn't like running, apparently.
(07:30:28 AM) Cheeseness: It seems like they've had a couple of projects on the go and have been running a tight ship
(07:32:06 AM) ion: Did they record an orchestra specifically for this game?
(07:32:41 AM) Cheeseness: There's a photo in the special features that seems to indicate live recording
(07:32:48 AM) Cheeseness: The music is really good
(07:33:20 AM) ion: yeah
(07:33:20 AM) Permafry_42: agreed. I'm almost considering buying the special edition just to get the soundtrack
(07:33:29 AM) ion: I skimmed through the special features but i must have missed that photo.
(07:33:35 AM) Permafry_42: unless the copy i have is the special edition
(07:34:53 AM) Cheeseness: OK, her lip synch animations in particular creep me out
(07:35:05 AM) Permafry_42: I'm a bit distracted from the mouthes as well
(07:36:20 AM) medacris: Yeah. A lot of games have very stiff standing animations.
(07:36:47 AM) Permafry_42: i like the backstory they give her
(07:37:21 AM) medacris: Awww!
(07:40:44 AM) Permafry_42: i apollogize in advance for not being good at this minigame coming up
(07:41:43 AM) ion: Oh, this isn’t a speedrun world record attempt?
(07:41:50 AM) flesk: I love minigames in games. At least when they feel natural to the story.
(07:42:08 AM) Cheeseness: This minigame is interesting
(07:42:16 AM) Permafry_42: the game is fine; I'm just kinda bad at these types of minigames
(07:42:16 AM) Cheeseness: Don't worry, Permafry_42 ^_^
(07:42:29 AM) Syd: Heh, whenever I stream, if I encounter a minigame, it's like whatever skill I once had with it is thrown out the window and I fail miserably.
(07:42:30 AM) Cheeseness: I sort of wish there were a few of these sorts of things
(07:43:00 AM) Syd: Though I did okay with the "Shoot the Rat" minigame in Sam & Max S01E03
(07:43:06 AM) SirSlade: Performance anxiety, Syd? Or maybe Murphy's Law
(07:43:13 AM) Syd: A little of both, I think
(07:43:20 AM) Cheeseness: heh
(07:43:23 AM) SirSlade: Shoot the Rat was fun though
(07:43:43 AM) SirSlade: I do play a lot of shooters, however. The Mafia Funland was the best though
(07:44:21 AM) flesk: I struggled so hard with the 5 in a row minigame in Machinarium. :S
(07:44:57 AM) Cheeseness: Yeah, Machinarium was fund to stream
(07:45:20 AM) flesk: You streamed that one yourself?
(07:45:30 AM) flesk: I don't think I was around for that one.
(07:45:47 AM) Cheeseness: Yeah, I did
(07:46:01 AM) flesk: This minigame looks very good as far as minigames in adventure games go.
(07:46:07 AM) Cheeseness: Are we red or blue?
(07:46:17 AM) Syd: Looks like the player is blue
(07:46:20 AM) flesk: Blue I think.
(07:47:00 AM) Cheeseness: Ah yes
(07:47:57 AM) Syd: That was a close one
(07:48:26 AM) flesk: Good shot.
(07:49:23 AM) Syd: I'd probably constantly try to knock the kid's discs out of the good spots
(07:49:45 AM) Permafry_42: YAY!
(07:49:59 AM) Cheeseness: Woo
(07:50:40 AM) flesk: Well played.
(07:50:44 AM) Permafry_42: yeah i have to admit its well programed
(07:51:35 AM) Syd: Some of the best minigames in an adventure game are probably in Sam & Max Hit the Road
(07:51:48 AM) Syd: I liked the Battleship one
(07:51:59 AM) Cheeseness: I love the S&M minigames
(07:52:02 AM) SirSlade: To my shame, I still haven't played Hit the Road.
(07:52:12 AM) Cheeseness: It's great :D
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(07:52:30 AM) Permafry_42: sadly I must admit the same; It's on my loooooong list of games to play though
(07:52:48 AM) Syd: Hit the Road is great.  Probably on the harder end of the LucasArts adventures, but that might partially be because of the cartoony logic the puzzles work off of
(07:52:59 AM) Cheeseness: Hit the Road is worth advancing up any list :D
(07:53:15 AM) Permafry_42: we should do a stream for it if we haven't already
(07:53:25 AM) Syd: We did. I streamed it
(07:53:29 AM) Syd: It was quite a while back, though
(07:53:32 AM) Permafry_42: ah k nm then
(07:53:38 AM) Syd: I think Cheeseness was moving at the time, so he wasn't able to join.
(07:53:57 AM) Syd: Didn't have much of a turnout. I actually wouldn't mind revisiting it someday
(07:54:02 AM) flesk: Yeah, I remember struggling so hard to get to the restaurant on the top of the ball of twine.
(07:54:08 AM) Cheeseness: Yeah, that would have been around the time I was moving, I think
(07:56:33 AM) Syd: He's a fast eater
(07:56:38 AM) Permafry_42: i love this puzzle
(07:56:59 AM) Permafry_42: besides finding the stones
(07:57:01 AM) Cheeseness: I found this sequence to be the most contrived of Zellner's stuff
(08:00:34 AM) ion: <Cheeseness> I love the S&M minigames
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(08:01:04 AM) Permafry_42: this shot was a pixel hunt for me
(08:01:06 AM) Cheeseness: That sounds worse than it is
(08:02:49 AM) Permafry_42: another strange angle imo
(08:03:15 AM) ion: This cutscene had a video glitch for me.
(08:03:31 AM) ion: And others like that with the close camera position.
(08:03:42 AM) Cheeseness: ion: Are you on Linux?
(08:03:43 AM) Cheeseness: I had the same
(08:03:45 AM) ion: yeah
(08:03:49 AM) Cheeseness: I thought it was shadowed scenes
(08:07:43 AM) SirSlade: Blah, had to work. But where did you guys get a copy of S&M Hit and Run?
(08:08:23 AM) Syd: Hit the Road isn't too expensive on Amazon
(08:08:53 AM) Permafry_42: i found mine at at thrift store
(08:09:01 AM) Cheeseness: I got mine in the first LucasArts Archive set, I think
(08:09:18 AM) Cheeseness: The forensics kit stuff is interesting
(08:09:26 AM) Syd: I'm jealous of the people that have lucked out and found great classic adventure games at thrift shops
(08:09:30 AM) Cheeseness: I sort of wish that that sequence of the game were a bit more expanded upon
(08:09:40 AM) Permafry_42: i also found zork too
(08:09:51 AM) SirSlade: Cool. Do you all just virtualize to run it? It is a DOS game, right?
(08:10:01 AM) Syd: ScummVM
(08:10:13 AM) Cheeseness: Yeah, ScummVM
(08:10:36 AM) Syd: Extract the game's data off of the disc to a folder, point ScummVM to that folder, and you're good to go.
(08:11:14 AM) Cheeseness: Or run it off the disc if you're feeling silly
(08:11:27 AM) Cheeseness: This lock picking puzzle was kinda neat as well
(08:11:30 AM) flesk: The ScummVM site has very good instructions on how to get the games to run.
(08:11:57 AM) SirSlade: Interesting. Looks like a neat program
(08:12:11 AM) flesk: I think I got my copy in -95 or something.
(08:12:38 AM) flesk: ScummVM works really well on tablets.
(08:12:59 AM) medacris: The thrift stores I've been in usually only have clothes and maybe a couple toys, nothing else
(08:13:04 AM) flesk: Not so good on Nintendo DS.
(08:13:26 AM) SirSlade: Yeah. I was considering just making a VM and installing windows 95 or something on it. How would you rate Scumm for lag/usability?
(08:13:44 AM) Permafry_42: it's awesome
(08:13:50 AM) Permafry_42: tim uses it
(08:13:54 AM) Syd: I'm impressed that ScummVM runs on some of the platforms it's compatible with
(08:13:58 AM) flesk: Yeah, it's very solid.
(08:14:07 AM) Permafry_42: go to rural areas is my trick'
(08:14:22 AM) Permafry_42: they have a lot of old electronics
(08:14:46 AM) SirSlade: It runs on the Dreamcast? That's pretty awesome.
(08:14:47 AM) flesk: It even works well on a smart phone. The Android version has this push pointer that gives you very good precision on small screens.
(08:14:48 AM) Permafry_42: i found huge 1980s speakers for 4 bucks
(08:14:49 AM) Syd: For most adventure games that are compatible with ScummVM, they run flawlessly, or at least nearly flawlessly, and it beats going through the trouble of installing a VM
(08:15:10 AM) Syd: You can also set ScummVM to emulate various sound cards, like Adlib or MT-32
(08:17:18 AM) Permafry_42: it can also emulate the kids humongous games
(08:17:40 AM) Permafry_42: i used it for the pj sam games
(08:20:17 AM) Permafry_42: oh yeah i also found a copy of full throttle if we ever want to do stream for it
(08:20:35 AM) Cheeseness: Good lord
(08:20:47 AM) Syd: That was streamed waaaay back in the early days, when Double Fine still ran the game club
(08:21:09 AM) Permafry_42: oh alrighty then
(08:21:15 AM) Syd: Pretty sure it was Greg Rice that streamed it
(08:23:01 AM) SirSlade: I was thinking The Longest Journey would be a cool game to see streamed
(08:23:21 AM) Permafry_42: yeah i've always wanted to get around to playing it
(08:23:36 AM) SirSlade: Me too. It's on my /long/ list of "stuff to play"
(08:24:06 AM) Permafry_42: omg i'
(08:24:13 AM) Cheeseness: Would be good to focus on discussing the game at hand :D
(08:24:21 AM) Permafry_42: I managed to do that on acident XD
(08:24:51 AM) SirSlade: Sorry, I get distracted easily.
(08:26:03 AM) Cheeseness: ^_^
(08:26:11 AM) Cheeseness: This is the forensics stuff I mentioned earlier
(08:26:19 AM) Cheeseness: I found the pipette hard to spot though >_<
(08:26:49 AM) Permafry_42: i guessed it by chance
(08:27:33 AM) Permafry_42: k looks like i'll finish just in time
(08:28:35 AM) Cheeseness: In some ways it's a shame that there's no real time limit there
(08:28:43 AM) Cheeseness: The room's meant to be checked regularly
(08:28:58 AM) Cheeseness: You can hang out as long as you like though, I think
(08:29:20 AM) Permafry_42: i meant with the stream
(08:30:53 AM) Cheeseness: Yeah, I know. I was talking about the game
(08:30:59 AM) Cheeseness: In the hopes that others would talk about the game too
(08:31:16 AM) Cheeseness: Zellner doesn't seem to be concerned about getting caught here either
(08:32:06 AM) SirSlade: He's just a confident detective
(08:32:45 AM) Cheeseness: I was awfully confused by the mess he leaves here
(08:33:37 AM) Cheeseness: DRAMA!
(08:33:46 AM) SirSlade: SUSPENSE!
(08:33:56 AM) Permafry_42: Ham and eggs!
(08:34:11 AM) medacris: Is this the end of the whole game?
(08:34:18 AM) Syd: Just chapter 1
(08:34:20 AM) Cheeseness: If you keep an eye out, Marco has had lots of roles
(08:34:20 AM) Permafry_42: nope just chapter one of the game
(08:34:21 AM) Syd: There's 3 chapters
(08:34:25 AM) medacris: Okay, had a feeling
(08:34:27 AM) Cheeseness: This is the end of the first episode of the game
(08:34:36 AM) Cheeseness: We'll do the others down the track
(08:35:24 AM) medacris: Gotcha
(08:35:30 AM) medacris: Thanks for streaming?
(08:35:32 AM) medacris: !
(08:35:45 AM) Cheeseness: Do we need all the credits, Permafry_42?
(08:36:00 AM) Permafry_42: might as well; we have the time
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(08:36:25 AM) Permafry_42: besides the credits should be finished soon
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(08:36:50 AM) Cheeseness: When we've got a decent crowd, we probably shouldn't unless there's extra content
(08:36:50 AM) Permafry_42: and np medacris
(08:37:02 AM) Cheeseness: People disappear before the announcement of what the next game will be
(08:37:07 AM) Permafry_42: k i'll remember that for next time
(08:37:10 AM) current topic is: Weekly Game Club for Saturday September 21st: The Raven - Legacy of a Master Thief! http://goo.gl/5wUfZw | Game Club homepage and stream at http://goo.gl/fNHqs (includes countdown timer and links to time zone conversions)
(08:37:26 AM) flesk: Yeah, thanks for streaming Permafry.
(08:37:36 AM) Permafry_42: thanks for watching!
(08:37:42 AM) SirSlade: Yes, thank you for streaming!
(08:37:43 AM) medacris: I always stay to the end
(08:37:56 AM) Cheeseness: The last episode has stuff after the credits though :D
(08:38:24 AM) Syd: Thanks for streaming again, Permafry_42
Topic changed from:
Weekly Game Club for Saturday September 21st: The Raven - Legacy of a Master Thief! http://goo.gl/5wUfZw | Game Club homepage and stream at http://goo.gl/fNHqs (includes countdown timer and links to time zone conversions)
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Weekly Game Club for Saturday October 12th: Costume Quest! http://goo.gl/ihupQH | Game Club homepage and stream at http://goo.gl/fNHqs (includes countdown timer and links to time zone conversions)
(08:38:42 AM) Cheeseness has changed the topic to: Weekly Game Club for Saturday October 12th: Costume Quest! http://goo.gl/ihupQH | Game Club homepage and stream at http://goo.gl/fNHqs (includes countdown timer and links to time zone conversions)
(08:38:46 AM) Cheeseness: Thanks for streaming :D
(08:38:57 AM) medacris: Thanks again. :D
(08:39:02 AM) Cheeseness: So yeah, everybody invite friends along for the next session. Would be great to have a good turnout
(08:39:08 AM) Permafry_42: Glad to have gotten the opportunity; I would have missed this great diamond in the rough if i hadn't played it
(08:39:17 AM) Cheeseness: We've got Tasha, Gabe, Mark, Anna and umm umm David G joining us
(08:39:22 AM) SirSlade: Me too, Permafry_42
(08:39:25 AM) Syd: We've got lots of people set to join us for Costume Quest, including the creator, Tasha Harris
(08:39:28 AM) medacris: Yay!