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  1. 22:38:23] ValiantThor [[email protected]] has joined #swordfishtrombones
  2. [22:38:23] Channel topic is: This is Gnilraps' office. When your meeting is done, please exit. Thank you.
  3. [22:38:23] Topic was set by [email protected] on Fri Mar 7 01:55:34 2014
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  5. [22:38:24] Channel was created at Thu Feb 27 01:30:37 2014
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  7. [22:38:34] <&gnilraps> i've invited frost as well
  8. [22:38:43] JFrost [[email protected]] has joined #swordfishtrombones
  9. [22:38:50] <&gnilraps> hi
  10. [22:38:53] <JFrost> hi
  11. [22:39:08] <&gnilraps> I've just finished telling VT that the only chance he has of saving any face at all is to work with us
  12. [22:39:29] <JFrost> I'd agree
  13. [22:39:44] <ValiantThor> hi
  14. [22:39:58] <ValiantThor> Tyler must be present
  15. [22:40:05] <&gnilraps> why not
  16. [22:40:06] <JFrost> he's at work
  17. [22:40:12] <&gnilraps> ok I guess not possible
  18. [22:40:21] <ValiantThor> well
  19. [22:40:23] <ValiantThor> ok
  20. [22:40:40] <ValiantThor> so you finaly trust me gnil?
  21. [22:40:40] <&gnilraps> so at this point ValiantThor you have a 6th party
  22. [22:40:59] <&gnilraps> I am willing to trust you
  23. [22:41:14] <&gnilraps> but i have reason not to trust you just as well
  24. [22:41:14] <ValiantThor> Is Toto your agent?
  25. [22:41:19] <&gnilraps> ?
  26. [22:41:21] <&gnilraps> hell no
  27. [22:41:29] <&gnilraps> I have no agents
  28. [22:41:41] <&gnilraps> i am about as non-political as you will find
  29. [22:42:02] <ValiantThor> When did Artela tell you about my meeting with her?
  30. [22:42:03] <&gnilraps> so any conspiracy you imagine me being part of... I;m not
  31. [22:42:28] <&gnilraps> The first I knew of anything was when I found you in her room on... what was it... saturday night
  32. [22:42:36] <ValiantThor> ok
  33. [22:42:45] <&gnilraps> so if there's been anything prior to that I was blind, deaf, and dumb
  34. [22:42:52] <ValiantThor> ok
  35. [22:43:14] <&gnilraps> ValiantThor: I invited you here to ask you to step down as PP
  36. [22:43:20] <ValiantThor> lol
  37. [22:43:29] <&gnilraps> I know it sounds funny to you
  38. [22:43:35] <&gnilraps> but I want you to think it through
  39. [22:43:44] <&gnilraps> it is the best choice you have left
  40. [22:43:55] <&gnilraps> you have a 6th party
  41. [22:44:09] <JFrost> If you do it, you can say publicly that is was part of the op and that you were trying to gain the Serbians trust.
  42. [22:44:15] <ValiantThor> So if Toto is not your agent then the screenshots are genuine
  43. [22:44:16] <&gnilraps> if you want ANY chance at being given a seat in congress, step down
  44. [22:44:25] <&gnilraps> ofc the screenshots are genuine
  45. [22:44:40] <&gnilraps> I asked Toto if he would endorse me for CP
  46. [22:44:48] <&gnilraps> in exchange, I would engage in dialogue with them
  47. [22:44:50] <&gnilraps> that is all
  48. [22:44:59] <&gnilraps> I have NO IDEA what else you THINK was going on
  49. [22:45:05] <ValiantThor> deepchill new it?
  50. [22:45:11] <ValiantThor> Hill knew it?
  51. [22:45:16] <&gnilraps> no
  52. [22:45:19] <&gnilraps> talks never got that far
  53. [22:45:21] <ValiantThor> Index knew it?
  54. [22:45:25] <&gnilraps> nope
  55. [22:45:30] <&gnilraps> talks never got past what you saw
  56. [22:45:34] <JFrost> Basically gnilraps made a stupid decision and tried to get their endorsement
  57. [22:45:38] <ValiantThor> JFrost send me a mssg ingame pls
  58. [22:45:41] <JFrost> It wasn't a smart move
  59. [22:45:54] <&gnilraps> you have, as far as I can remember, the entire thing in those screencaps
  60. [22:46:05] <&gnilraps> your screencaps match my logs perfectly
  61. [22:46:05] <ValiantThor> btw: this convo is being recorded on video
  62. [22:46:08] <ValiantThor> :)
  63. [22:46:11] <&gnilraps> fine with me
  64. [22:46:36] <&gnilraps> I have zero shame about approaching Toto in the way I did and for the reasons I did
  65. [22:46:45] <&gnilraps> they were looking for legitimization
  66. [22:46:51] <&gnilraps> they had booted RGR
  67. [22:46:59] <&gnilraps> I figured they deserved AT LEAST my ear
  68. [22:47:22] <ValiantThor> when did you aproach them and uder who's authority?
  69. [22:47:52] <&gnilraps> best way to guess that is to check his newspaper.
  70. [22:47:54] <&gnilraps> brb
  71. [22:48:14] <&gnilraps> what's his ingame name?
  72. [22:48:15] <ValiantThor> it was before the cp run
  73. [22:48:19] <&gnilraps> yes
  74. [22:48:25] <&gnilraps> it was during campaign time
  75. [22:48:30] <ValiantThor> so what were you then as exe
  76. [22:48:41] <&gnilraps> and he published an article basically asking eUSA to take AFA seriously
  77. [22:48:45] <ValiantThor> party of owls cabinet
  78. [22:48:56] <&gnilraps> I don't think I was in owls cabinet
  79. [22:48:58] <&gnilraps> at all
  80. [22:49:03] <ValiantThor> I know this
  81. [22:49:03] <&gnilraps> was I?
  82. [22:49:21] <ValiantThor> but who authorised you to appoach AFA, Toto that is
  83. [22:49:29] <&gnilraps> NOBODY
  84. [22:49:38] <JFrost> He did it on his own
  85. [22:49:40] <&gnilraps> I was looking for endorsements for my CP run
  86. [22:49:45] <JFrost> he wanted their endorsement
  87. [22:49:47] <ValiantThor> Were you apart of Owls cabinet?
  88. [22:49:54] <&gnilraps> every time a party would endorse me, I would copy/paste the endo ingame
  89. [22:50:03] <&gnilraps> and use it to build momentum for my run
  90. [22:50:09] <&gnilraps> frost can collaborate that
  91. [22:50:17] <&gnilraps> because he trolled me about it a little bit
  92. [22:50:19] <JFrost> That's true
  93. [22:50:23] <&gnilraps> I was not in owls cabinet
  94. [22:50:27] <ValiantThor> Gnil, pls tell me: were you in the cabinet
  95. [22:50:30] <&gnilraps> no
  96. [22:50:31] <&gnilraps> I was not
  97. [22:50:35] <ValiantThor> were you in congress?
  98. [22:50:53] <&gnilraps> I probably was a congressman last term
  99. [22:50:54] <&gnilraps> yes
  100. [22:51:00] <&gnilraps> or maybe not
  101. [22:51:03] <ValiantThor> are you CIA
  102. [22:51:04] <&gnilraps> no I missed by one
  103. [22:51:15] <&gnilraps> I was the odd man out in the last USWP slate
  104. [22:51:20] <&gnilraps> and I am not CIA
  105. [22:51:25] <ValiantThor> ok
  106. [22:51:40] <&gnilraps> AHA
  107. [22:51:55] <&gnilraps> I was NSC coordinator during Wild Owl's first term
  108. [22:52:05] <&gnilraps> but I stepped down and Deepchill replaced me
  109. [22:52:11] <&gnilraps> so maybe that is what you are thinking
  110. [22:52:22] <&gnilraps> I didn
  111. [22:52:22] <ValiantThor> so you asked the ppl that didn't leave the eUS, but were heavily involved in the former (or not so former) PTO to endorse you
  112. [22:52:32] <ValiantThor> is that correct?
  113. [22:52:34] <&gnilraps> I didn't step down... I just didn't re-up for his second term
  114. [22:52:49] <&gnilraps> I will say it again.
  115. [22:52:54] <&gnilraps> Toto published an article
  116. [22:53:07] <&gnilraps> in it, he said that the AFA had booted RGR
  117. [22:53:12] <ValiantThor> did you at any time during your convo with Toto tell anyone
  118. [22:53:19] <ValiantThor> Hill
  119. [22:53:20] <&gnilraps> and there were a few remaining Serbs who wanted to try to make eUSA their home
  120. [22:53:25] <ValiantThor> deepchill
  121. [22:53:26] <ValiantThor> and
  122. [22:53:33] <&gnilraps> NO NO NO NO NO
  123. [22:53:34] <ValiantThor> who was the other?
  124. [22:53:38] <&gnilraps> index
  125. [22:53:39] <ValiantThor> the thirsd
  126. [22:53:40] <ValiantThor> ah
  127. [22:53:45] <ValiantThor> IndexInfinity
  128. [22:53:49] <&gnilraps> read your own screenshots ValiantThor
  129. [22:53:53] <ValiantThor> ok
  130. [22:53:58] <&gnilraps> I proposed them as my advisors
  131. [22:54:04] <&gnilraps> for the next stage of conversations
  132. [22:54:04] <ValiantThor> so did AFA deliver the votes?
  133. [22:54:07] <&gnilraps> which NEVER happen
  134. [22:54:10] <&gnilraps> I do not believe so
  135. [22:54:16] <&gnilraps> they did not give me the endorsement
  136. [22:54:23] <&gnilraps> they endorsed dr. devil
  137. [22:54:30] <&gnilraps> so I stopped talking to them
  138. [22:54:33] <JFrost> afa had 83 votes that election
  139. [22:54:35] <ValiantThor> were they shouting in their channels : vote for gnilraps?
  140. [22:54:37] <JFrost> so they did not deliver
  141. [22:54:46] <&gnilraps> I have no idea if they shouted that ValiantThor
  142. [22:54:50] <&gnilraps> if they did, I didn't see it
  143. [22:55:03] <&gnilraps> I am not in their channels
  144. [22:55:07] <ValiantThor> we need Artela to be here
  145. [22:55:16] <&gnilraps> but I didn't see any shouts ingame for me either
  146. [22:55:51] <ValiantThor> so
  147. [22:55:53] <&gnilraps> ValiantThor: what are you getting at?
  148. [22:56:02] <&gnilraps> you are asking all these questions
  149. [22:56:04] Artela|Ping [[email protected]] has joined #swordfishtrombones
  150. [22:56:05] <&gnilraps> where are they leading?
  151. [22:56:06] <ValiantThor> yes
  152. [22:56:10] <&gnilraps> you asked for artela
  153. [22:56:11] <&gnilraps> here she is
  154. [22:56:13] <ValiantThor> just a sec
  155. [22:56:15] <Artela|Ping> what?
  156. [22:56:17] <ValiantThor> sorry
  157. [22:56:20] <ValiantThor> 1 minute
  158. [22:56:28] <ValiantThor> hi Artela
  159. [22:57:05] <ValiantThor> Does the CIA have a mole in AFA?
  160. [22:57:20] <Artela|Ping> even if they did do you think I'd teell you?
  161. [22:57:32] <&gnilraps> I would have no idea
  162. [22:57:36] <JFrost> ValiantThor thinks Toto is a mole
  163. [22:57:43] <JFrost> and he set him up
  164. [22:57:59] <Artela|Ping> lolno
  165. [22:58:03] <&gnilraps> ValiantThor: my best guess is that toto is pissed at me and tried using you to get back at me
  166. [22:58:09] <&gnilraps> toto probably thinks I USED him
  167. [22:58:14] <&gnilraps> but that is only my guess
  168. [22:58:47] <ValiantThor> well if the AFA delivered you their votes, then you have used him
  169. [22:58:54] <&gnilraps> indeed
  170. [22:59:01] <&gnilraps> well, not exactly
  171. [22:59:06] <JFrost> which they didnt
  172. [22:59:10] <ValiantThor> can't be both ways
  173. [22:59:11] <&gnilraps> I had every intention of continuing to talk with them
  174. [22:59:18] <&gnilraps> involving my advisors
  175. [22:59:19] <&gnilraps> and his
  176. [22:59:23] <ValiantThor> you trust them
  177. [22:59:26] <&gnilraps> but that never materialized
  178. [22:59:36] <JFrost> certainly not now
  179. [22:59:37] <&gnilraps> I will TALK with anyone
  180. [22:59:54] <Artela|Ping> we have done this successfully in the past with other groups, like iNCi
  181. [22:59:56] <Artela|Ping> brb
  182. [22:59:58] <ValiantThor> why didn't you later when potus continue the talk?
  183. [23:00:22] <&gnilraps> because they didn't deliver on the terms of our conversations
  184. [23:00:28] <&gnilraps> they breached those terms
  185. [23:00:38] <ValiantThor> exactly
  186. [23:00:46] <ValiantThor> what term?
  187. [23:01:07] <ValiantThor> and who's we in "ours"
  188. [23:01:17] <&gnilraps> well, I didn't know it at the time, but they screenshotted that conversation 1 minute after I said that my first request was no screenshots
  189. [23:01:25] <JFrost> his and Toto's = ours
  190. [23:01:27] <&gnilraps> but I also asked them for the ingame endorsement which they didn't give
  191. [23:01:36] <ValiantThor> or was it still only you, nobody knowing it?
  192. [23:01:41] <&gnilraps> by "ours" I mean mine and his
  193. [23:01:54] <ValiantThor> so all the time nobody ways involved
  194. [23:01:57] <ValiantThor> why?
  195. [23:01:58] <&gnilraps> nobody else had access to my account ValiantThor
  196. [23:02:06] <&gnilraps> however
  197. [23:02:10] <ValiantThor> wait!
  198. [23:02:19] <&gnilraps> I did tell the Federalist party that I had been talking with AFA
  199. [23:02:28] <ValiantThor> did you tell Artela
  200. [23:02:28] <&gnilraps> in an interview they conducted with all of the candidates
  201. [23:02:53] <&gnilraps> I told all of america in that interview that I had been in dialogue with AFA
  202. [23:02:53] <ValiantThor> or to rephrase: when did she find out
  203. [23:03:03] <&gnilraps> find out what?
  204. [23:03:18] <ValiantThor> that you have been Talking to Toto from the AFA
  205. [23:03:24] <ValiantThor> about endorsment
  206. [23:03:47] <&gnilraps> she probably found out from your leaked logs
  207. [23:03:54] <&gnilraps> ValiantThor: look at this http://www.erepublik.com/en/article/-march-country-presidential-election-special-day-2296-fed--2379963/1/20
  208. [23:04:04] <&gnilraps> and find my answers to the interview
  209. [23:04:06] <ValiantThor> i have read all that
  210. [23:04:09] <&gnilraps> ok
  211. [23:04:10] <&gnilraps> well
  212. [23:04:11] <ValiantThor> dont spam links
  213. [23:04:16] <&gnilraps> yassir
  214. [23:04:18] <JFrost> I have a question
  215. [23:04:27] <JFrost> Are you turning over the party or not?
  216. [23:04:29] <ValiantThor> shoot Josh
  217. [23:04:35] <ValiantThor> to whome
  218. [23:04:40] <&gnilraps> yes
  219. [23:04:44] <&gnilraps> turn over the party
  220. [23:04:50] <ValiantThor> to whome?
  221. [23:04:58] <JFrost> To gnilraps or somebody else
  222. [23:04:58] <&gnilraps> just resign
  223. [23:05:07] <ValiantThor> when?
  224. [23:05:11] <JFrost> now
  225. [23:05:23] <ValiantThor> LMAOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
  226. [23:05:31] <JFrost> Then this discussion is over
  227. [23:05:44] <JFrost> You've been pushed out of the Top 5
  228. [23:05:48] <&gnilraps> ^
  229. [23:05:59] <&gnilraps> ValiantThor: right now you have literally nothing left
  230. [23:06:00] <ValiantThor> So
  231. [23:06:08] <JFrost> and will be below 200 people in a couple hours
  232. [23:06:08] <&gnilraps> handing over the party gives you a chance to salvage something
  233. [23:06:13] <ValiantThor> LMAOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
  234. [23:06:15] <JFrost> on the 15th we will take it back
  235. [23:06:15] <&gnilraps> you can say it was part of the plan all along
  236. [23:06:27] <ValiantThor> LMAOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
  237. [23:06:36] <&gnilraps> you can say it was a way of breaking up AFA even further
  238. [23:06:39] <JFrost> We're done here then
  239. [23:06:43] <ValiantThor> LMAOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
  240. [23:06:45] <&gnilraps> I think so
  241. [23:07:03] <ValiantThor> do you know game mechanics?
  242. [23:07:22] <&gnilraps> aha he can't leave the party because he's a congress candidate
  243. [23:07:32] <ValiantThor> LMAOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
  244. [23:07:43] <JFrost> then leave after congressional elections
  245. [23:07:43] <ValiantThor> Let's work on another plan
  246. [23:07:51] <ValiantThor> why
  247. [23:08:01] <&gnilraps> yes this should be good. what plan is that?
  248. [23:08:04] <Artela|Ping> ok, sorry, I'm back
  249. [23:08:11] <ValiantThor> why should I leave?
  250. [23:08:15] <JFrost> because you ran a slate of Serbian candidates
  251. [23:08:23] <ValiantThor> I don't want you here Artela
  252. [23:08:26] <ValiantThor> pls leave
  253. [23:08:35] <&gnilraps> because you literally destroyed a party that many good people worked to build
  254. [23:08:49] <ValiantThor> how did I do that
  255. [23:08:58] <&gnilraps> yesterday it was T5
  256. [23:09:02] <&gnilraps> today it is not
  257. [23:09:06] <ValiantThor> Artela pls leave the room
  258. [23:09:17] <ValiantThor> .
  259. [23:09:17] <ValiantThor> .
  260. [23:09:17] <ValiantThor> .
  261. [23:09:18] <ValiantThor> .
  262. [23:09:18] <ValiantThor> .
  263. [23:09:18] <ValiantThor> .
  264. [23:09:18] <ValiantThor> .
  265. [23:09:18] <ValiantThor> .
  266. [23:09:19] <ValiantThor> .
  267. [23:09:19] <ValiantThor> .
  268. [23:09:19] <ValiantThor> .
  269. [23:09:19] <ValiantThor> .
  270. [23:09:20] <ValiantThor> .
  271. [23:09:20] <ValiantThor> .
  272. [23:09:20] <ValiantThor> .
  273. [23:09:20] <ValiantThor> .
  274. [23:09:20] <ValiantThor> .
  275. [23:09:21] <ValiantThor> .
  276. [23:09:22] <&gnilraps> that kind of disaster can only happen with help
  277. [23:09:31] <&gnilraps> .k Artela|Ping
  278. [23:09:31] Artela|Ping [[email protected]] has been kicked from #swordfishtrombones by BettyBoop [[email protected]]: Requested
  279. [23:09:32] <&gnilraps> there
  280. [23:09:35] <ValiantThor> .ok
  281. [23:09:42] <ValiantThor> so
  282. [23:09:47] <ValiantThor> T5 or not T5
  283. [23:09:55] <ValiantThor> see
  284. [23:10:29] <ValiantThor> doesn't make a difference
  285. [23:10:37] <ValiantThor> to me
  286. [23:10:44] <&gnilraps> ok then you are on your own.
  287. [23:10:48] <ValiantThor> at the moment
  288. [23:10:58] <&gnilraps> I wanted to offer you a chance at redemption
  289. [23:11:02] <ValiantThor> I love WTP
  290. [23:11:03] <&gnilraps> but you are turning it down
  291. [23:11:10] <ValiantThor> I worked so hard for WTP
  292. [23:11:16] <&gnilraps> You've destroyed it ValiantThor
  293. [23:11:22] <&gnilraps> I feel bad for you, but you've destroyed it.
  294. [23:11:25] <ValiantThor> oh did I
  295. [23:11:32] <ValiantThor> how exactly
  296. [23:12:12] <&gnilraps> ask me that question in a week or two
  297. [23:12:21] <&gnilraps> and you won't need me to answer it
  298. [23:12:31] <ValiantThor> gnilraps, you're a schmuck that is Potus and doesnt even know game-mechanics!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
  299. [23:12:35] <ValiantThor> LMAOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
  300. [23:12:44] <&gnilraps> okeedoke.
  301. [23:12:46] <&gnilraps> I'm done.
  302. [23:12:51] <ValiantThor> bye
  303. [23:12:52] <&gnilraps> anything else you need to say?
  304. [23:12:55] <JFrost> Excellent. Se you on the 15th.
  305. [23:12:57] <ValiantThor> nope
  306. [23:13:05] <JFrost> See*
  307. [23:13:38] <&gnilraps> sad ValiantThor because you are good at media, good at graphics, and you were playing a fun game
  308. [23:13:43] <&gnilraps> now you're done.
  309. [23:14:07] <&gnilraps> better at this point for you to go play facebook games
  310. [23:14:36] <&gnilraps> why did you not want artela in here?
  311. [23:14:45] <&gnilraps> you don't want her to know you love WTP?
  312. [23:16:50] <&gnilraps> .k ValiantThor
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