[8:00:27 PM] Hazel  Evans: [7:38:01 PM] Zac: Huh.
[7:38:08 PM] Zac: Do kinfolk have to optin to rosters or something?
[7:46:13 PM] Zac: OH.
[7:46:16 PM] Zac: She was lying ICly. Hahahahah.
[7:49:41 PM] Hazel  Evans: HEh. Who?
[7:50:03 PM] Zac: Kokomo.
[7:50:08 PM] Hazel  Evans: Oh. hehe
[7:50:15 PM] Zac: She said she was a kin, and Selene couldn't smell any breeding so I Scent of True Formed her. :)
[7:50:52 PM] Hazel  Evans: hehe
[7:53:19 PM] Zac: Oh! I get to renown req now.
[7:53:50 PM] Hazel  Evans: For.. what?
[7:54:05 PM] Zac: Catching out a liar? I think thats one?
[7:54:12 PM] Zac: Or is that a renown hit...
[7:54:41 PM] Hazel  Evans: Neither if you're a nuwisha. Is this at the caern?  Because the WARDER knows what she is, even if Selene doesn't, and that's really all that matters.
[7:54:56 PM] Zac: It is at the Caern, yes. And Selene now knows she is a nuwisha.
[7:55:07 PM] Zac: Selene is warning her that if she catches her impersonating a kinfolk again, I'll use voice of Jackal on her.
[7:55:19 PM] Hazel  Evans: But... the WARDER knows what she is.
[7:55:21 PM] Zac: But I... I feel like catching out someonelying and impersonating a kinfolk should be a renown reward.
[7:55:24 PM] Hazel  Evans: That's all that matters
[7:55:30 PM] Zac: Right, but the Warder isn't hovering over our shoulder right now.
[7:55:38 PM] Zac: A fact she well knows.
[7:55:47 PM] Hazel  Evans: But it isn't Selene's business what she is.  That's the the thing.
[7:55:52 PM] Zac: .... Yes it is? o.O
[7:56:13 PM] Zac: The warder isn't the /only/ person that protects the Caern. Everyone does. And its Selenes business when someone lies to her face about what they are!
[7:56:53 PM] Hazel  Evans: I mean, you can put in the request, but I don't see it going anywhere
[8:00:54 PM] Hazel  Evans: [7:57:28 PM] Zac: If anything, fairly mediating a dispute. :P
[7:57:55 PM] Hazel  Evans: I would even almost call sniffing her out sniping. You wouldn't smell breeding on Eloise EITHER, but I wouldn't agree to letting you use SotF. She was allowed in the caern. That's all that matters
[7:58:18 PM] Zac: Are you fucking serious?
[7:58:31 PM] Zac: Someone says 'I'm a kinfolk' and has no breeding, its PERFECTLY reasonable to confirm that fact.
[7:58:52 PM] Zac: Plus, she lied to me without giving me a roll to notice.
[7:58:59 PM] Hazel  Evans: Not if they're already in the caern.  It is assumed that to get past the warder, they are satisfied that you belong there.
[7:59:00 PM] Zac: Or any indication OOC it was a lie, either.
[7:59:14 PM] Zac: I didn't even OOCly /know/, this was all acting IC.
[7:59:28 PM] Zac: I assumed the freaking Roster was broken cause she wasn't on it.
[8:00:04 PM] Hazel  Evans: Well, okay. I mean, you should have gotten a roll to notice the lie, sure. But I wouldn't have allowed you to SotF until she was caught in a lie. shrugs
[8:00:29 PM] Zac: I fail to see how its sniping.
[8:03:53 PM] Liz: Mrfle
[8:04:46 PM] Hazel  Evans: [8:01:12 PM] Hazel  Evans: Because there is no reason for you to suspect at all that she is not a Gaian.
[8:01:27 PM] Zac: If she was wyrm tainted, and I used sense wyrm, I'd totally agree.
[8:01:32 PM] Zac: I'm not sensing if sheis gaian or not.
[8:01:35 PM] Zac: I'm curious as to WHAT SHE IS,.
[8:02:07 PM] Zac: Plus, if a kinfolk is purebreed 0 you can't scent them, so an application of scent of the true form is required to know that they are kin.
[8:02:16 PM] Hazel  Evans: But why would you even question it?
[8:02:30 PM] Zac: Because she has no pure breeding!
[8:03:38 PM] Hazel  Evans: So you ask 'Who are you kin to?' I mean, just a difference of opinion, I guess, but I would want more reason than that if it was me
[8:04:12 PM] Zac: shrugs Selene is not afraid to sniff people in the Caern. Its like saying hello. Its not like I'm in a bar and doing it.
[8:04:26 PM] Zac: The thing that gets me was OOCly I didn't even know I /was/ sniping. I thought I was going to just turn up what kinda kin she is.
[8:04:38 PM] Zac: Thats how natural it was to me for Selene to go that route.