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  1. [00:12:50] Dream Traveler: ...Blad
  2. [00:12:52] Dream Traveler: e*
  3. [00:12:59] Dream Traveler: ...if Robin made it into a sword.
  4. [00:13:07] Dream Traveler: Could she give it to Klonoa?
  5. [00:13:18] Mercenary Roy: Well....
  6. [00:13:23] Mercenary Roy: I didn't say once the form changed
  7. [00:13:29] Mercenary Roy: It would stay like that forever
  8. [00:13:42] Mercenary Roy: Say she uses it, then gives it to Morgan.
  9. [00:13:46] Dream Traveler: Okay,
  10. [00:13:48] Dream Traveler: I get it.
  11. [00:13:50] Mercenary Roy: It would change into a powerful tome.
  12. [00:13:51] Mercenary Roy: But
  13. [00:14:04] Mercenary Roy: If she were to give it in sword forme to Klonoa
  14. [00:14:17] Mercenary Roy: The power of it would vanish entirely
  15. [00:14:28] Mercenary Roy: Just making it a plain old sword for attacking
  16. [00:15:23] Mercenary Roy: Think of it like this:
  17. [00:15:32] Dream Traveler: Yes, he could wield it.
  18. [00:15:35] Mercenary Roy: Malumbra feeds off the dragon's blood for its power
  19. [00:15:39] Dream Traveler: But
  20. [00:15:44] Dream Traveler: It wouldn't be anything special
  21. [00:15:49] Mercenary Roy: Exactly
  22. [00:15:51] Dream Traveler: And his Killing Edge would be better than that shit
  23. [00:16:13] Mercenary Roy: Yup
  24. [00:16:17] Dream Traveler: You don't have to explain it in too much detail, I don't know Fire Emblem for crap but I can comprehend a thing or two.
  25. [00:16:23] Mercenary Roy: XD
  26. [00:16:23] Dream Traveler: Here's the question
  27. [00:16:31] Dream Traveler: Is there a sword
  28. [00:16:35] Dream Traveler: Only the fellblood can use?
  29. [00:16:39] Dream Traveler: NO
  30. [00:16:43] Dream Traveler: NOT A BOOK SWORD THING
  31. [00:16:46] Dream Traveler: A plain old
  32. [00:16:49] Dream Traveler: regular
  33. [00:16:56] Mercenary Roy: ....No.
  34. [00:17:02] Dream Traveler: Okay.
  35. [00:18:18] Dream Traveler: One sec, let me ask something.
  36. [00:18:29] Mercenary Roy: Hm?
  37. [00:18:34] Dream Traveler: =_=
  38. [00:18:44] Dream Traveler: I'm asking someone else something, sorry.
  39. [00:18:49] Mercenary Roy: Oh okay
  40. [00:29:45] Dream Traveler: Blade
  41. [00:29:55] Mercenary Roy: ?
  42. [00:30:27] Dream Traveler: ...for Klonoa to wield the Falchion and have the skill level of Lucina and Chrom...would Klonoa need the ability to wield every sword
  43. [00:30:36] Dream Traveler: Or wield every sword to it's full potential?
  44. [00:30:38] Dream Traveler: :|
  45. [00:30:54] Dream Traveler: This will be the key to seeing if he is able to use the Mu...gah
  46. [00:30:57] Dream Traveler: Fellblood Book Sword
  47. [00:31:18] Mercenary Roy: Hmm
  48. [00:31:21] Mercenary Roy: I think former
  49. [00:31:31] Dream Traveler: Monado?
  50. [00:32:05] Mercenary Roy: He can use the Monado to some extent. It takes training to unlock all the symbols
  51. [00:32:11] Mercenary Roy: And use it to the point Shulk has.
  52. [00:32:57] Dream Traveler: Blade, don't fucking set in stone something that none of us remember. I'm trying to figure out the rules Klonoa abides to because none of us remember what I fucking said X<
  53. [00:33:26] Dream Traveler: Not even me. I'm not wanting to be greedy. I'm trying to remember something so I don't cause some sort of problem in the future.
  54. [00:33:27] Mercenary Roy: @~@ true
  55. [00:33:54] Dream Traveler: There's a difference between wielding
  56. [00:33:58] Dream Traveler: and wielding to full potential
  57. [00:34:09] Dream Traveler: Klonoa does have to learn, but he has the ability to
  58. [00:34:22] Dream Traveler: He isn't locked into just being able to pick up the sword.
  59. [00:34:33] Dream Traveler: He has the ability to master it, not just be able to hold it.
  60. [00:35:23] Dream Traveler: That's how I see the difference between being able to wield and being able to wield to max potential.
  61. [00:36:11] Dream Traveler: Does that make sense?
  62. [00:36:15] Mercenary Roy: Yeag
  63. [00:36:20] Mercenary Roy: *Yea
  64. [00:36:42] Dream Traveler: The thing I need to figure out is...does the Book Sword count as a sword?
  65. [00:37:04] Dream Traveler: Or does it count as a book?
  66. [00:37:28] Mercenary Roy: It is by default just a regular spellbook.
  67. [00:37:45] Dream Traveler: Is it considered a sword when it becomes a sword?
  68. [00:37:55] Dream Traveler: Or is it still considered the book?
  69. [00:38:13] Mercenary Roy: ...It's just considered Malumbra.
  70. [00:38:19] Mercenary Roy: The shape it takes
  71. [00:38:22] Mercenary Roy: Is what it is
  72. [00:38:27] Mercenary Roy: But the real Malumbra
  73. [00:38:33] Dream Traveler: Blade, this isn't helping.
  74. [00:38:33] Mercenary Roy: is a swirl of dark energy
  75. [00:39:32] Dream Traveler: Blade.
  76. [00:40:11] Dream Traveler: I realize you don't want me to have the ability to use it. Hell, I don't either.
  77. [00:40:15] Mercenary Roy: I don't exactly know how to explain it... but the shape it's in isn't defined by it's physical appearance.
  78. [00:40:17] Dream Traveler: I'm just wanting to work out a loop hole.
  79. [00:40:34] Dream Traveler: As in make sure this underlying rule
  80. [00:40:37] Dream Traveler: is defined.
  81. [00:40:44] Dream Traveler: And doesn't bite me in the ass later.
  82. [00:41:39] Dream Traveler: I'm sorry
  83. [00:41:40] Dream Traveler: :|
  84. [00:41:45] Dream Traveler: I should have written it down
  85. [00:41:57] Mercenary Roy: It's okay, sorry for not being so clear.
  86. [00:42:40] Dream Traveler: You can just say "I don't want Klonoa to be able to use this." if that's what you want to say. I realize this, I don't want to either, I just don't want Klonoa to be like
  87. [00:42:54] Dream Traveler: "Fear my blade." *tries to attack but it does nothing*
  88. [00:42:55] Dream Traveler: :|
  89. [00:43:32] Mercenary Roy: I dunno, if he wanted to practice with it, under the assumption he could use it,
  90. [00:43:40] Mercenary Roy: Then question why it won't respond
  91. [00:45:00] Dream Traveler: Klonoa can wield any sword, that's for certain, but I don't know if it's possible to wield a sword and not be able to use it to its fullest.
  92. [00:45:09] Dream Traveler: And that goes for every sword.
  93. [00:45:16] Dream Traveler: Not just this stupid thing.
  94. [00:46:00] Dream Traveler: And then you got to explain if...say, in game, does it become a sword and get considered a sword by the game itself?
  95. [00:46:26] Mercenary Roy: Malumbra is not an in game item.
  96. [00:48:31] Dream Traveler: -m-;
  97. [00:48:33] Dream Traveler: Ugh...
  98. [00:48:43] Dream Traveler: Okay, answer this
  99. [00:48:54] Dream Traveler: Can I pick up the Monado but not use it (period)
  100. [00:49:06] Dream Traveler: Can I pick up the Falchion but not use it (period)
  101. [00:49:09] Dream Traveler: =_=
  102. [00:49:18] Mercenary Roy: You can use both o-o;
  103. [00:49:56] Dream Traveler: I'm asking not me in specific
  104. [00:49:58] Dream Traveler: ANYONE
  105. [00:50:22] Dream Traveler: Can a person pick up either sword and not be able to use any of its abilities?
  106. [00:51:37] Dream Traveler: Look, if I say Klonoa won't use the book no matter what you say, will that make you actually give a straight answer?
  107. [00:51:38] Dream Traveler: :|
  108. [00:51:45] Dream Traveler: =m=
  109. [00:51:46] Mercenary Roy: No, the Monado is solely meant for those who can have the capability
  110. [00:51:59] Mercenary Roy: While Falchion is tied only to the exalted bloodline
  111. [00:52:11] Mercenary Roy: Anyone can swing Falchion around, and cut apples with it
  112. [00:52:21] Mercenary Roy: It would just act like an overgrown knife
  113. [00:52:28] Dream Traveler: THEN Klonoa can use every sword and use it to it's full potential.
  114. [00:52:38] Mercenary Roy: Yes.
  115. [00:53:22] Dream Traveler: Now. ...if Robin gives Klonoa the sword, or Robin falls in battle, would Klonoa be able to wield that sword to its full potential? Or would it not be considered a sword by the underlying rule Ricken made?
  116. [00:54:28] Mercenary Roy: Malumbra will have to taste for the blood of the dragon. If it doesn't receive that taste, its power will go away.
  117. [00:54:58] Dream Traveler: Are you giving straight answers or just avoiding so Robin has something special to her?
  118. [00:55:14] Mercenary Roy: In a sense, the blessing doesn't come FROM the weapon, it's just used to channel and amplifies it's power.
  119. [00:55:39] Mercenary Roy: By itself, it's useless to anyone but Robin, Morgan, Grima, Marc, and Megan is unknown.
  120. [00:55:50] Mercenary Roy: Even Klonoa.
  121. [00:55:58] Dream Traveler: I realize that.
  122. [00:56:03] Dream Traveler: As everything but a sword, Klonoa can't use it.
  123. [00:56:13] Mercenary Roy: Exactly.
  124. [00:56:14] Dream Traveler: As a sword, maybe. Again, his DNA is irregular.
  125. [00:56:27] Dream Traveler: So perhaps
  126. [00:56:29] Dream Traveler: And this
  127. [00:56:40] Dream Traveler: is a really really big stretch, and I don't even know how the fuck it would work
  128. [00:57:04] Dream Traveler: And before you try to dodge the bullet, Klonoa wouldn't ask to use Robin's book as a sword, he'd only do it if he had to.
  129. [00:57:44] Mercenary Roy: Right
  130. [00:57:48] Dream Traveler: SO NO KLONOA WOULD NOT ABUSE IT
  131. [00:58:06] Dream Traveler: But here's my idea.
  132. [00:58:12] Dream Traveler: ---
  133. [00:58:38] Dream Traveler: Klonoa's body adjusts itself to be able to use every sword, and reverts when he is done.
  134. [00:58:52] Dream Traveler: use every sword to its full potential.
  135. [00:59:06] Dream Traveler: So, and only as a sword, he wouldn't be able to use the book.
  136. [00:59:08] Dream Traveler: Or the tome
  137. [00:59:14] Dream Traveler: Or the scythe.
  138. [00:59:42] Dream Traveler: But if it's a sword, and Robin gives him said sword, his body would adjust itself to be able to use the sword to its full potential
  139. [00:59:46] Dream Traveler: And revert back to normal
  140. [00:59:51] Dream Traveler: Once the sword is taken away from him.
  141. [01:00:14] Dream Traveler: @m@ His DNA is irregular, so I guess that is why?
  142. [01:00:25] Dream Traveler: ... did that make any sense. No Klonoa won't abuse it
  143. [01:00:35] Dream Traveler: No I don't want to use the sword.
  144. [01:00:40] Mercenary Roy: If his DNA contained any sense of dragon in it, then it would react.
  145. [01:00:44] Dream Traveler: No Klonoa isn't greedy.
  146. [01:00:48] Dream Traveler: Neither am I.
  147. [01:01:08] Dream Traveler: In case you don't realize that. I do like giving Robin things only she could use.
  148. [01:01:19] Dream Traveler: But I don't like plotholes.
  149. [01:01:26] Dream Traveler: =_=
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