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  1. [2/28/2016 12:34:34 AM | Edited 12:35:47 AM] Rednaxela: Hm, slightly revised this simple effect I'm playing around with
  2. https://youtu.be/4c6YRHJLQqY
  3. https://youtu.be/JnfwKa1aPhA
  4. [2/28/2016 2:01:37 AM] Chaoxys _: Is it possible to make that warbley effect that knocks you back a ring that starts at the center of serac?
  5. [2/28/2016 2:14:29 AM] Rednaxela: Quite possible.  A little harder to do nicely, but possible
  6. [2/28/2016 2:14:54 AM] Rednaxela: I'm considering that, I've also been considering just making it a square wave coming out from Serac
  7. [2/28/2016 2:15:06 AM] Rednaxela: Probably going to see how that works
  8. [2/28/2016 2:23:05 AM] Chaoxys _: My only other idea was a wave of translucent seracs that appear then disapear in seconds
  9. [2/28/2016 2:24:26 AM] pholtos: so what is serac anyway
  10. [2/28/2016 2:36:47 AM] Chaoxys _: A serac is a block of glacial ice around the size of a house. The are very dangerour to mountaineers as they can topple with little warning.
  11. [2/28/2016 2:37:00 AM] Chaoxys _: So basically, cold and willing to kill at the drop of a hat
  12. [2/28/2016 2:37:56 AM] Willhart: I wonder if they are some kind of manifestation of Demo's deaths.
  13. [2/28/2016 2:38:55 AM] Willhart: I think there was some reason why they are kind of obsessed about that.
  14. [2/28/2016 2:39:14 AM] Chaoxys _: I like to think she's death itself, or some sort of offshoot of death.
  15. [2/28/2016 2:39:40 AM | Edited 2:40:46 AM] Chaoxys _: I mean, if you are death, and your job is to take lives, how pissed would you be to find that theres a creature that brushes off death like it was nothing
  16. [2/28/2016 2:39:40 AM] Willhart: Would have to see rao's intro level again.
  17. [2/28/2016 2:41:00 AM] Chaoxys _: Grim Reaper- So sorry mortal, but that fall is the end of yo-
  18.  
  19. Demo- Nope, I'm fine, it was just a demo.
  20.  
  21. Grimp Reaper- Wait... no... you can't... thats not how this works
  22. [2/28/2016 2:41:01 AM] Willhart: That is neat idea too, though I feel like it was more personal than that.
  23. [2/28/2016 2:41:41 AM] Chaoxys _: Hmm, well you know how theres the whole Guardian Angel thing? Maybe theres a flip side to that?
  24. [2/28/2016 2:42:00 AM] Chaoxys _: Like everyone has their own personal grim reaper type deal that followls them until it's their time
  25. [2/28/2016 2:42:13 AM] Willhart: Or maybe they are just another sibling from somewhere. Also that sounds interesting.
  26. [2/28/2016 2:42:31 AM | Edited 2:43:40 AM] Chaoxys _: And Demo keeps brushing her's aside to the point that it's detached itself from her and become it's own entity
  27. [2/28/2016 2:43:06 AM | Edited 2:44:22 AM] Willhart: Might be worth including somewhere if it works woth plot and canon.
  28. [2/28/2016 2:43:29 AM] pholtos: like serac was just added but made no sense to me
  29. [2/28/2016 2:44:19 AM] Willhart: raocow does like them a lot. He needed new chara for his level back then.
  30. [2/28/2016 2:44:48 AM] Willhart: Not sure if they have gender?
  31. [2/28/2016 2:45:14 AM] Chaoxys _: I'd say female based on the design and actions
  32. [2/28/2016 2:45:32 AM] Chaoxys _: Wait, didn't she refer to herself as "aunty serac" or something at one point?
  33. [2/28/2016 2:46:06 AM] Chaoxys _: Or maybe I saw someone suggest that serac was an aunt or something and I'm getting mixed up
  34. [2/28/2016 2:46:07 AM] Willhart: It is possible. I don't remember though.
  35. [2/28/2016 2:46:57 AM] pholtos: oh dear
  36. [2/28/2016 2:47:10 AM] pholtos: could someone add my bit from the lunadll copy to the actual lunadll
  37. [2/28/2016 2:47:20 AM] pholtos: lines 23-29
  38. [2/28/2016 2:48:45 AM] Chaoxys _: Demo darling, even an ABCD can die, and yet you continue to ignore me. It really is rather rude. And whats worse is that you seem to have passed on that nasty habit to your little travel buddies as well! I can only imagine that their deaths are as disapointed with them as I am with you.
  39.  
  40. ...
  41.  
  42. [2/28/2016 12:49:34 PM] HECK, A CRYHOOT (rockythechao): also the stuff about Serac... iirc established canon is that she may or may not be an ABCD and that she married into the family. That's about it.
  43. [2/28/2016 12:49:52 PM] HECK, A CRYHOOT (rockythechao): Duvi wanted her to be married to Pumpernickel
  44. [2/28/2016 12:50:43 PM] HECK, A CRYHOOT (rockythechao): oh, and she raises killer attack bees
  45. [2/28/2016 12:51:00 PM] HECK, A CRYHOOT (rockythechao): at least in MaGL canon
  46. [2/28/2016 12:56:59 PM] Chaoxys _: I still like the idea of everyone having their own personal reaper of sorts, and Demo's is upset over the fact that Demo refuses to die. whether it's serac or something else, idk, but I think the concept is interesting
  47. [2/28/2016 1:01:25 PM] HECK, A CRYHOOT (rockythechao): TV Tropes has the following on her:
  48.  
  49. "Demo's long lost sister, Serac is a drunkard and a party animal. She has the power to exploit glitches and programming errors and also shoot missiles out of her head.
  50.  
  51. This is canon.
  52.  
  53. ...actually, Serac was a placeholder sprite for a boss in A2MT. Since the original author of the level was no longer around for the zombie Let's Play of said game, Talkhaus user KobaBeach wrote up the above description, and raocow agreed with it's canonity. Later on, Serac would actually appear in A2XT as Demo's sister-in-law, who married one of Demo's siblings - which one is unknown."
  54. [2/28/2016 1:03:29 PM] HECK, A CRYHOOT (rockythechao): In general the TV Tropes character page is a good reference for the characters, though we should try and get that information to the official ASMBXT wiki
  55. http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Characters/Raocow
  56.  
  57. ...
  58.  
  59. [2/28/2016 3:13:26 PM] Chaoxys _: Finally sprited these two, now I think I can get back to working on costumes
  60. http://imgur.com/cxnk3Qm
  61. [2/28/2016 3:13:44 PM] ☂ Pichu {Lily}: :O
  62. [2/28/2016 3:16:24 PM] Chaoxys _: I gave Pili a coat because I like to imagine that, due to her fireness, she's actually constantly freezing outside of locations that are super hot.
  63. [2/28/2016 3:18:30 PM] Maciej B. // Minnakht: nah, she's perfect in every way
  64. [2/28/2016 3:28:16 PM] HECK, A CRYHOOT (rockythechao): Which reminds me, Pily called Garish an objectivist jerk. That's like the exact opposite of communism
  65. [2/28/2016 3:28:43 PM] HECK, A CRYHOOT (rockythechao): how the heck did I get that mixed up before
  66. [2/28/2016 3:29:10 PM] HECK, A CRYHOOT (rockythechao): iirc he even pulled out a copy of Atlas Shrugged in the EOW4 cutscene
  67. [2/28/2016 3:29:21 PM] HECK, A CRYHOOT (rockythechao): fries industry and everything
  68. [2/28/2016 4:18:28 PM] Wasabi: Wait isn't serac her aunt now
  69. [2/28/2016 4:19:30 PM] Wasabi: Also they are super neat chaoxys
  70. [2/28/2016 4:19:55 PM] HECK, A CRYHOOT (rockythechao): idk, TV Tropes says she's Demo's sister-in-law for marrying one of the siblings
  71. [2/28/2016 4:20:00 PM] Chaoxys _: Nah, she just means that he's objective about things, like, he liked to object, like phoenix wright
  72. [2/28/2016 4:21:09 PM] Wasabi: I thought we had her married to pumpernickel
  73. [2/28/2016 4:21:41 PM] HECK, A CRYHOOT (rockythechao): That's what Duvi suggested
  74. [2/28/2016 4:21:46 PM] Wasabi: I mean I don't really mind I just very much remember that conversation
  75. [2/28/2016 4:22:44 PM] HECK, A CRYHOOT (rockythechao): Here's Garish's debut scene in Ep. 1: https://youtu.be/Nh3V3N45_Mg?t=11m44s
  76. [2/28/2016 4:23:57 PM] Wasabi: Oh my god I forgot about in atlas town
  77. [2/28/2016 4:25:15 PM] HECK, A CRYHOOT (rockythechao): I forgot about the wonky Kood closeup
  78. [2/28/2016 4:25:21 PM] Wasabi: Oh jesus haha
  79. [2/28/2016 4:25:52 PM] Wasabi: Also okay I'm a bit iffy on the married to a sibling thing due to none of the siblings seeming like they should be married?
  80. [2/28/2016 4:26:02 PM] HECK, A CRYHOOT (rockythechao): same
  81. [2/28/2016 4:27:28 PM] HECK, A CRYHOOT (rockythechao): And idk where the stuff about her being a sister-in-law is
  82. [2/28/2016 4:27:44 PM] Chaoxys _: Maybe we could keep it a secret as to who she married, then bring in the husband later in another ep?
  83. [2/28/2016 4:27:46 PM] HECK, A CRYHOOT (rockythechao): If it was part of Koba's description or somewhere in Ep. 1
  84. [2/28/2016 4:28:41 PM] HECK, A CRYHOOT (rockythechao): I don't mind her being married to Pumernickel all that much, honestly, as long as it doesn't directly contradict anything in ep. 1
  85. [2/28/2016 4:28:45 PM] Wasabi: "wait I remember reading somewhere that you were married to one of my siblings!"
  86. "Well you can't believe everything you see on the internet sweetie :)"
  87. [2/28/2016 4:28:54 PM] Maciej B. // Minnakht: ep 1 gets retconned anyway, right?
  88. [2/28/2016 4:28:54 PM | Edited 4:30:01 PM] HECK, A CRYHOOT (rockythechao): and even then, we're updating Ep. 1 to work with the new devkit anyway
  89. [2/28/2016 4:28:57 PM] HECK, A CRYHOOT (rockythechao): yeah
  90. [2/28/2016 4:30:22 PM] HECK, A CRYHOOT (rockythechao): I mean, I'm not sure if we should retcon familial relations as part of Ep. 2's plot, but we could go in and change any text in the updated version of Ep. 1
  91. [2/28/2016 4:30:49 PM] Wasabi: It's too much effort imo
  92. [2/28/2016 4:32:05 PM] HECK, A CRYHOOT (rockythechao): again, assuming it's even established in the game and not some offhand comment from the forums that TV Tropes considers fact.
  93. [2/28/2016 4:33:10 PM] Wasabi: I mean again we can just changeit
  94. [2/28/2016 4:33:27 PM] Wasabi: Serac only shows up in rao's level
  95. [2/28/2016 4:33:28 PM] Wasabi: iirc
  96. [2/28/2016 4:33:43 PM] Chaoxys _: Wait... Is sheath's standing frame not a part of her walking animation?
  97. [2/28/2016 4:37:38 PM] HECK, A CRYHOOT (rockythechao): "Hello Demo. You may not recognize me."
  98. "You were at the wedding, weren't you?"
  99. "Serac? Your sister-in-law?"
  100. [2/28/2016 4:40:07 PM] HECK, A CRYHOOT (rockythechao): so yeah, established in her third line.
  101. [2/28/2016 4:40:53 PM] HECK, A CRYHOOT (rockythechao): Also, I just remembered some of the discussions about her on the forums
  102. [2/28/2016 4:41:09 PM] HECK, A CRYHOOT (rockythechao): some people wanted her to be married to Mishi
  103. [2/28/2016 4:41:24 PM] HECK, A CRYHOOT (rockythechao): not saying that's necessarily what we should do though
  104. [2/28/2016 4:42:26 PM] Wasabi: That would be cute
  105. [2/28/2016 4:45:07 PM] Wasabi: Omg serac married one of the siblings to make a wedding so boring she thought it would kill demo
  106. [2/28/2016 4:45:41 PM] HECK, A CRYHOOT (rockythechao): Willhart did the original Serac sprite
  107. [2/28/2016 4:46:20 PM] HECK, A CRYHOOT (rockythechao): well, not the original, but the one used in Ep. 1
  108. [2/28/2016 4:47:03 PM] HECK, A CRYHOOT (rockythechao): and here's rao's art of her
  109. http://talkhaus.raocow.com/viewtopic.php?f=36&t=14608&p=231982&hilit=serac#p231982
  110. [2/28/2016 4:47:22 PM] Wasabi: His follows it really well
  111. [2/28/2016 4:48:07 PM] Wasabi: "basically she is all black except the places that would be 'shaded' are red, like her shadow is coloured
  112. kinda looks like a way better designed 'evil demo' from the world 9 intro, I wonder if she should replace her..."
  113.  
  114. rao with the shade
  115. [2/28/2016 4:48:54 PM] Chaoxys _: I love the idea that she staged the wedding in an attempt to bore demo to death
  116. [2/28/2016 4:50:06 PM] Chaoxys _: "You know sweetie, I went through all the trouble of getting married in hopes that the wedding would bore you to death. Truth be told, I didn't think you'd actually get so sentimental during it."
  117. [2/28/2016 4:50:45 PM] Chaoxys _: That or demo relieved her boredom by doing a canonball into the punchbowl
  118. [2/28/2016 4:50:52 PM] HECK, A CRYHOOT (rockythechao): "And then the punch spilled into the salad bar..."
  119. [2/28/2016 4:51:48 PM] HECK, A CRYHOOT (rockythechao): or better yet, "You know, they never let us come back to that restaurant after what happened at the salad bar..."
  120. [2/28/2016 4:51:59 PM] Wasabi: Hahaha
  121. [2/28/2016 4:52:03 PM] Wasabi: Yeah vagueness is better
  122. [2/28/2016 4:52:24 PM] Chaoxys _: "Long story short sweetie, I'm going to do to you, what you did to that salad bar. Punch you."
  123. [2/28/2016 4:52:37 PM] Wasabi: Hahahaha
  124. [2/28/2016 4:53:18 PM | Edited 4:54:15 PM] HECK, A CRYHOOT (rockythechao): I'm now imagining Demo kicking a salad bar across the room for no reason
  125. [2/28/2016 4:54:25 PM] Chaoxys _: Theres a reason, she was bored of the wedding
  126. [2/28/2016 4:54:38 PM] Chaoxys _: I like to imagine demo sitting next to iris, getting all twitchy
  127. [2/28/2016 4:54:45 PM] HECK, A CRYHOOT (rockythechao): like maybe she's just stuffing herself full of radishes and the musicians start playing her favorite song but they completely butcher it, so she flings the entire thing at them
  128. [2/28/2016 4:55:03 PM] Chaoxys _: And iris is like "No demo... demo no... demo please don't
  129. [2/28/2016 4:58:42 PM | Edited 5:00:50 PM] HECK, A CRYHOOT (rockythechao): Alternate idea, maybe Serac isn't married to anyone and she just insists she's Demo's sister-in-law.
  130.  
  131. "Hey, I'm your sister-in-law, remember?"
  132. "It doesn't work like that."
  133. "You were at the wedding too!"
  134. "Stop that. There was no wedding."
  135. "You hurled the salad bar at the band!"
  136. [2/28/2016 5:00:22 PM] Chaoxys _: Wait...
  137. [2/28/2016 5:00:37 PM] Chaoxys _: What if each time you run into her, she claims she's something else?
  138. [2/28/2016 5:00:58 PM] HECK, A CRYHOOT (rockythechao): oooh, yes
  139. [2/28/2016 5:01:11 PM] Chaoxys _: Demo- Oh, hey Serac.
  140.  
  141. Serac- Is that really the greeting you'd give to your grandmother?
  142. [2/28/2016 5:01:38 PM] HECK, A CRYHOOT (rockythechao): First she's Demo's sister-in-law, then she's Demo's aunt, then her grandmother, then her cousin thrice removed
  143. [2/28/2016 5:02:09 PM | Edited 5:03:18 PM] Chaoxys _: Of course I feel like this means that we'll have to do something big with serac at a later point since she's trying to keep her relation and what not a secret
  144. [2/28/2016 5:02:44 PM] Wasabi: We should have a massive reveal that isn't even true
  145. [2/28/2016 5:03:23 PM] pholtos: "Serac cares." - If Serac was running for president
  146. [2/28/2016 5:03:35 PM] HECK, A CRYHOOT (rockythechao): "Weren't you my sister-in-law in the last game?"
  147. "Sweetie, you're putting too much faith in a talkhaus game maintaining that kind of continuity."
  148. [2/28/2016 5:03:47 PM] Wasabi: Yes
  149. [2/28/2016 5:04:12 PM] Hoeloe: i feel like it would be funnier if only Serac directly alludes to being part of a game
  150. [2/28/2016 5:04:14 PM] Hoeloe: like
  151. [2/28/2016 5:04:40 PM] Chaoxys _: I still like my idea that she's basically a minireaper type deal that's assigned to Demo
  152. [2/28/2016 5:04:42 PM] Hoeloe: "Weren't you my sister-in-law a while ago?"
  153. "Sweetie, you're putting too much faith in a talkhaus game maintaining that kind of continuity."
  154. "...What?"
  155. [2/28/2016 5:05:25 PM] Chaoxys _: I'll be sad if that dialogue doesn't show up in game
  156. [2/28/2016 5:05:49 PM] Wasabi: I mean she can still be the reaper
  157. [2/28/2016 5:06:06 PM] HECK, A CRYHOOT (rockythechao): we have the new cutscene thread, why not draft up a SOW9 cutscene script?
  158. [2/28/2016 5:07:00 PM] Slit08: I wonder which form Serac will take on in the World 9 boss battle
  159. [2/28/2016 5:07:07 PM] Wasabi: Serac: "Anyway, how dare you go against your GRANDMOTHER"
  160. Offscreen: "Cut, cut, Serac you're her Uncle's wife in this game, Grandmother is episode 3"
  161. Serac: "I don't know why we're shooting both of them at the same time anyway"
  162. [2/28/2016 5:07:28 PM] HECK, A CRYHOOT (rockythechao): rednaxela's doing the Serac fight
  163. [2/28/2016 5:07:54 PM] HECK, A CRYHOOT (rockythechao): https://youtu.be/JnfwKa1aPhA
  164. [2/28/2016 5:08:10 PM | Edited 5:09:26 PM] Chaoxys _: "Demo sweetie, do you know what I am?"
  165.  
  166. "My great grandauntma in law, twice removed?"
  167.  
  168. "No dear, it's your personal reaper. Like all reapers, I'm assigned to end someones life, in this case, yours. You however seem to deny death, simply passing it off as a, well, a "demo". It's annoying to say the least."
  169. [2/28/2016 5:08:45 PM] Slit08: nice she'S pushing back Demo heh
  170. [2/28/2016 5:08:49 PM] Slit08: so you can't hit her directly
  171. [2/28/2016 5:09:25 PM] Hoeloe: oh man
  172. [2/28/2016 5:09:38 PM] Hoeloe: we should use the capture buffers to make a distortion effect for the pushing thing
  173. [2/28/2016 5:09:48 PM | Edited 5:11:00 PM] Wasabi: The final hit on her has to be serac "killing" her and then demo says "Don't worry.. that was just a demo" Then she gets sunglasses and kicks serac in the face
  174. [2/28/2016 5:09:48 PM] HECK, A CRYHOOT (rockythechao): Maybe it's Demo's personal reaper manifesting as someone who she closely associates with death: her aunt.
  175. "Don't you mean sister-in-law?"
  176. "uh, yeah, sure, whatever. Anyway..."
  177. [2/28/2016 5:10:21 PM] Wasabi: Hahahhaa
  178. [2/28/2016 5:10:39 PM] Wasabi: "point is, I'm going to kill you now"
  179. [2/28/2016 5:11:13 PM] Chaoxys _: I like the line I posted earlier today, but now I can't find it
  180. [2/28/2016 5:11:14 PM] Wasabi: "I know what takes away your death defying ability, Demo. The most powerful creature in the universe.. the ZEBRA"
  181. [2/28/2016 5:11:41 PM] Chaoxys _: [Sunday, February 28, 2016 2:48 AM] Chaoxys _:
  182.  
  183. <<< Demo darling, even an ABCD can die, and yet you continue to ignore me. It really is rather rude. And whats worse is that you seem to have passed on that nasty habit to your little travel buddies as well! I can only imagine that their deaths are as disapointed with them as I am with you.
  184. [2/28/2016 5:11:50 PM] Slit08: I guess she will gain some attacks as well :P
  185. [2/28/2016 5:12:11 PM] Wasabi: ! I can only imagine that their deaths are as disapointed with them as I am with you
  186. EP 3 SET UP
  187. [2/28/2016 5:12:35 PM] Chaoxys _: I mainly like that line because of the "I'm not mad, I'm just disapointed" cliche
  188. [2/28/2016 5:13:12 PM | Edited 5:15:38 PM] HECK, A CRYHOOT (rockythechao): "I'm not angry, I'm just seething with intense, burning fury"
  189. [2/28/2016 5:13:17 PM | Removed 5:14:16 PM] Chaoxys _: This message has been removed.
  190. [2/28/2016 5:14:41 PM] Chaoxys _: "The final hit on her has to be serac "killing" her and then demo says "Don't worry.. that was just a demo" Then she gets sunglasses and kicks serac in the face"
  191.  
  192. If we do this, then her boss theme needs to be a badass remix of that "We'll meet again" song
  193. [2/28/2016 5:14:54 PM] Chaoxys _: Why can't a quote messages in skype anymore?
  194. [2/28/2016 5:14:58 PM] HECK, A CRYHOOT (rockythechao): Hoeloe's working on the fight music
  195. [2/28/2016 5:15:05 PM] HECK, A CRYHOOT (rockythechao): It's going to be a sonata iirc
  196. [2/28/2016 5:15:08 PM] Wasabi: Yeah
  197. [2/28/2016 5:15:10 PM] Chaoxys _: Ah, nevermind then
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