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- Backstory: After a unfortunate game, TheWarlock lashes out at fabbbyyy for his performance claiming that fabbbyyy wasn't taking the game seriously and "trolling" resulting his team losing. Meteos states that fabbbyyy is simply having a bad game and that at the very least he wasn't blaming anyone as opposed to TheWarlock whom Meteos states as "annoying" for calling out fabbbyyy on his misplays. TheWarlock defends himself by thoroughly analyzing fabbbyyy's misplays, one of which is "flashing into tower dry, and dying". Meteos then tries to explain to TheWarlock that bashing out on his teammates during a game will only lead to putting his teammates on tilt and therefore it is pointless to do so.TheWarlock rebuttals by saying that calling each other out on their mistakes is worthwhile as it allows people to improve off of criticism, however he does understand Meteos's point of view. TheWarlock then begins to lash out on the competitive NA scene as a whole and states that the root of its problems is NA high elo players or mainly "Challenger" level players not taking Solo Q seriously enough, as he soon begins to make a comparison between NA solo Q and KR solo Q. Soon after, TheWarlock begins to discuss with Meteos why he feels that NA Challenger level players should take solo Q more seriously...
- TheWarlock: with what i do
- TheWarlock: thats good enough for me
- C10 Meteos: clearly you dont live a fulfilling life if you're sitting here raging at someone playing badly
- TheWarlock: i only do that in solo q
- TheWarlock: maybe i should stop playing league
- TheWarlock: then
- C10 Meteos: yeah you probably should
- TheWarlock: but i really like competing
- TheWarlock: and league is the most developped skill i have
- TheWarlock: so i will not quit it anytime soon
- C10 Meteos: competing is fine
- C10 Meteos: i like competing too
- C10 Meteos: but you can do it without being an asshole
- TheWarlock: ookay
- TheWarlock: but im sure if u like competing
- TheWarlock: then u understand
- TheWarlock: why im upset?
- TheWarlock: if u played in play offs
- TheWarlock: and balls didnt talk
- TheWarlock: he first picks
- TheWarlock: like
- TheWarlock: nautilus top
- TheWarlock: and then buys IE first
- TheWarlock: and spams laugh
- TheWarlock: doesnt say anything
- TheWarlock: and u lose to complexity
- TheWarlock: 0-3
- TheWarlock: because of it
- TheWarlock: how would u feel?
- TheWarlock: why doesnt that level of attachment to a singular game
- C10 Meteos: i'd feel confused at how we are playing complexity in playoffs
- TheWarlock: translate to solo queue
- TheWarlock: just a random example man
- TheWarlock: who cares about col
- TheWarlock: but what im saying
- C10 Meteos: it's not even close to a related example
- TheWarlock: is that everone should be attached
- TheWarlock: to solo q games
- TheWarlock: the way they are attached
- TheWarlock: to real games
- TheWarlock: that decide their lives
- TheWarlock: or at least
- TheWarlock: some sense
- TheWarlock: of that
- C10 Meteos: thats just wrong
- TheWarlock: sure u can play a champ u might not be as comfortable playing in play offs cuz u only have 10 games on them
- TheWarlock: but u shouldnt first pick ryze jungle
- TheWarlock: and then say YOLO
- TheWarlock: and just whatever
- TheWarlock: why is it wrong?
- C10 Meteos: you're relating solo queue to playoffs?
- TheWarlock: no
- C10 Meteos: playoffs is something we've worked months for
- C10 Meteos: we play together
- TheWarlock: i am relating being attached to the result
- TheWarlock: yes
- TheWarlock: so do every challenger
- TheWarlock: they have played for years
- TheWarlock: why is no one attached
- TheWarlock: to the result of the game?
- TheWarlock: whyy doesnt the games matter?
- C10 Meteos: we get paid to play as a team and we all h ave the same goals which is why we get a long
- TheWarlock: its just win 1 lose 1
- TheWarlock: no one cares
- TheWarlock: lelelelele
- TheWarlock: attitude
- TheWarlock: yes
- TheWarlock: shouldnt everyone in solo
- TheWarlock: q
- TheWarlock: have the same goal
- TheWarlock: of being good at this game
- TheWarlock: ?
- TheWarlock: if u dont care about being good
- TheWarlock: why are u even playing in this elo
- TheWarlock: go back to gold and just be a casual
- TheWarlock: thats how kr solo q is
- C10 Meteos: not everyone in gold is a casual
- TheWarlock: everyone in top 500
- C10 Meteos: they're just less experienced
- TheWarlock: no
- TheWarlock: some of them are more experienced
- TheWarlock: theres other reasons theyre gold but
- TheWarlock: what im saying is if u dont care about performing well
- TheWarlock: and thats not ur goal
- TheWarlock: and u dont wanna be the best
- TheWarlock: why are u even in here
- TheWarlock: this elo should only be for pros
- TheWarlock: and wannabe pros
- TheWarlock: and amateurs
- TheWarlock: this is what it littearly translates to
- TheWarlock: its even called CHALLENGER
- TheWarlock: for a fucking reason
- TheWarlock: but everyone treats it
- TheWarlock: like its called
- TheWarlock: mental challenge ur own team
- C10 Meteos: you're too hot headed to ever make it anywhere as a pro
- TheWarlock: yes
- TheWarlock: which is why i am a coach
- TheWarlock: and not a pro
- C10 Meteos: who do you coach
- TheWarlock: an amateur team
- TheWarlock: that u havent heard of yet cuz its 1 week old
- TheWarlock: but u will soon
- TheWarlock: cuz we're stomping CA and XDG in scrims 4 days in
- C10 Meteos: scrim results dont mean anything
- TheWarlock: well it means we're not random trolls
- TheWarlock: or maybe not
- TheWarlock: but u will soon
- TheWarlock: i promise u
- TheWarlock: we have 2 korean challengers
- TheWarlock: that are top 50
- TheWarlock: in korea ladder
- TheWarlock: right now
- TheWarlock: mechanically speaking theyre better than anyone whos ever competed in na
- TheWarlock: i am not a pro because im not good enough
- TheWarlock: to be the best
- TheWarlock: and i wont enjoy playing at mid tier lcs level
- TheWarlock: but as a coach im very smart about this game and how to win
- TheWarlock: strategically and otherwise
- TheWarlock: so i can reach mid international level
- TheWarlock: from na
- TheWarlock: similar to what alliance is today
- TheWarlock: star players who have experience and the same goal
- TheWarlock: liek you
- TheWarlock: my dream is to reach that level
- TheWarlock: and i work for it every day
- TheWarlock: and i sacrifice things to reach it
- C10 Meteos: try sacrificing your ego
- TheWarlock: tell me how
- C10 Meteos: if you dont think you have an ego but you have the wrong definition
- TheWarlock: and i will do it
- TheWarlock: ok
- TheWarlock: help me see it
- TheWarlock: please
- TheWarlock: i am genuine
- TheWarlock: in my pleade
- TheWarlock: plead*
- TheWarlock: i respect ur opinion as a succesful pro gamer
- TheWarlock: and ur take is better than mine
- TheWarlock: bceause u know what its like to be the best
- TheWarlock: at least on this level
- TheWarlock: so i listen to u
- TheWarlock: whole heartedly
- C10 Meteos: just stop caring about what other people are doing is probably a good first step
- C10 Meteos: look at it this way
- C10 Meteos: if fabby is trolling
- C10 Meteos: getting mad at him will literally do nothing
- C10 Meteos: but if i can ignore bottom lane and snowball somewhere else then the game can still be won
- C10 Meteos: if someone messes up why do you call them out for it
- C10 Meteos: its not going to help them and they probably already feel bad if they truly messed up anyway
- TheWarlock: i dont think imaqtpie feels bad when he first picks jungle ryzr and goes 0/8/1
- TheWarlock: but i can see what ure saying
- TheWarlock: ok man
- TheWarlock: i will abandon
- TheWarlock: my attachment to my team mates performance in solo q
- TheWarlock: is that what u are saying?
- C10 Meteos: yeah
- TheWarlock: or am i missing something
- TheWarlock: ok
- C10 Meteos: youll just stress yourself out
- TheWarlock: thats all?
- C10 Meteos: lol
- TheWarlock: i already do
- TheWarlock: indeed
- TheWarlock: i lost maybe
- TheWarlock: 5 years off my lifespan
- TheWarlock: beacuse of this na oslo q
- TheWarlock: i wish my ping to kr wasnt 200
- TheWarlock: or i would only play here
- TheWarlock: there
- C10 Meteos: yeah solo queue can be stressful
- C10 Meteos: and frustrating
- C10 Meteos: happens to everyone
- TheWarlock: ok
- C10 Meteos: but when you take it out on your teammates
- C10 Meteos: doesnt help anyone
- TheWarlock: here is something i will point out to u
- C10 Meteos: u feel me
- TheWarlock: that u might not have noticed
- TheWarlock: yes i do
- TheWarlock: i can see what u are saying
- TheWarlock: and why that would be better for me
- TheWarlock: and the game in general
- TheWarlock: if i were to do that
- TheWarlock: but notice this
- TheWarlock: every pro that has ever taken solo q REALLY seriously
- TheWarlock: has become so much better
- TheWarlock: think doublelift in s2, he had like 4 accounts in top 10, became internationally yrecognized
- TheWarlock: you guys were all top 50
- TheWarlock: when u were playing qualifiers
- TheWarlock: and u stomped
- TheWarlock: shihptur got rank 1
- TheWarlock: and suddenly became so good
- TheWarlock: wildturtle had the same run
- TheWarlock: but then everyone forgets that
- TheWarlock: and just ignores soloq
- TheWarlock: right after
- C10 Meteos: you're almost right with that statement
- C10 Meteos: you're missing part though
- TheWarlock: which is?
- C10 Meteos: when those players get high rated, it's not becuase they cared about winning
- C10 Meteos: none of those players rage at their temamates
- C10 Meteos: or get upset when they lose
- TheWarlock: they did care about winning and playing good
- TheWarlock: and sure they didnt do those things
- C10 Meteos: they got rank 1 because they were focused on improvement
- TheWarlock: im not saying theyre doing what im doing
- C10 Meteos: and they put a lot of time into practicing
- TheWarlock: im saying theyre doing their best to win
- TheWarlock: yes exactly
- TheWarlock: so why do most na pros
- TheWarlock: ignore their example
- TheWarlock: and not do the same
- C10 Meteos: thats not a fair statement, the majority of pros try in every game
- TheWarlock: not the same as those examples
- C10 Meteos: you're using one example of imaqtpie?
- TheWarlock: no
- TheWarlock: some others too
- C10 Meteos: look at bjergsen or doublelift right now
- TheWarlock: voyboy
- TheWarlock: etc
- C10 Meteos: they try very hard to win in solo queue
- C10 Meteos: and they get pissed
- TheWarlock: yes
- C10 Meteos: when their teammates are bad
- C10 Meteos: adnt hey tilt
- C10 Meteos: and they've gotten worse
- C10 Meteos: because of it
- TheWarlock: i dont think they got worse because of it
- C10 Meteos: they definitely have
- TheWarlock: but maybe it contributed
- C10 Meteos: it's happened to me as well
- C10 Meteos: whenever i care too much i get bad
- TheWarlock: so u are saying
- C10 Meteos: cause i start playing full dps vi just to try to win
- TheWarlock: be focused on improving
- C10 Meteos: and i dont buy wards
- TheWarlock: and try ur best
- TheWarlock: but dont care about the team?
- C10 Meteos: yes
- TheWarlock: that seems so hard to me
- TheWarlock: to adapt that mindset
- TheWarlock: to mine
- TheWarlock: but i will try
- C10 Meteos: just keep thinking "what can i do to win the game from here"
- C10 Meteos: and blaming your teammates is never the answer
- C10 Meteos: or hindsighting
- TheWarlock: ok
- TheWarlock: thank u for ur time and wisdom and sharing this with me, it will actually have a difference
- TheWarlock: on me
- C10 Meteos: thats cool to hear
- C10 Meteos: its hard
- TSQ Dusty: i learned a lot as well
- TheWarlock: i hope i also brought up a few ppoints
- TheWarlock: that change how u think or make u see new things
- TheWarlock: too
- C10 Meteos: i understand your perspective
- C10 Meteos: i just think your approach could be improved
- After a short pause by TheWarlock, Meteos realizes that he has finally succeeded in changing TheWarlocks attitude and hopes that by doing so he can little by little bring toxicity to an end in the league of legends community. Meteos smirks as he exists the chat room to queue up for another solo q game knowing that his efforts were worthwhile.
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