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  1. Friday, March 4, 2011
  2. Buffalo Bill?: Explain to me 's
  3. Bill?: Why is vanilla "fuel on the fire"
  4. dyn.Martn : Explain what?
  5. Buffalo Bill?: But the current set
  6. Buffalo Bill?: That CLEARLY splits the community
  7. Buffalo Bill?: Does not?
  8. dyn.Martn: Well
  9. dyn.Martn: If you are true vanilla
  10. dyn.Martn: One camp is angry
  11. dyn.Martn: If you go all out unlocks
  12. dyn.Martn: You have the other camp angry
  13. dyn.Martn: So you should find a middle ground
  14. Buffalo Bill?: That's impossible.
  15. Buffalo Bill?: Period
  16. Buffalo Bill?: Vanilla and unlocks do not mix
  17. Buffalo Bill?: "We listen to the Majority" is bullshit
  18. dyn.Martn: So do vanilla and unlocks
  19. Buffalo Bill? No one knows the exact numbers
  20. dyn.Martn: So the admins used their veto
  21. Buffalo Bill?: And the higher you go up the divisions the less the people want unlocks/
  22. Buffalo Bill?: That they proved repeatedly.
  23. dyn.Martn: And.
  24. Buffalo Bill?: But instead of listening to it
  25. Buffalo Bill?: And use different rulesets
  26. Buffalo Bill?: *- It
  27. dyn.Martn: How many teams are there in the "higher divisions" and how many are there in the "lower divisions"?
  28. Buffalo Bill?: And what have done the lower divisions for TF2?
  29. Buffalo Bill?: How many specs they have on average each official?
  30. dyn.Martn: Do not matter a shit.
  31. Buffalo Bill? How many leagues they are average per team?
  32. Buffalo Bill?: matters EVERYTHING .
  33. dyn.Martn: It is about the fun, its about playing.
  34. Buffalo Bill? Prem has done more than anyone else for TF2
  35. dyn.Martn: still doesnt give a shit.
  36. Buffalo Bill?: And people like you just want to say "Fuck you, play as we want"
  37. dyn.Martn: No
  38. dyn.Martn: I just say
  39. dyn.Martn: Vanilla is boring
  40. Buffalo Bill?: That's your opinion
  41. Buffalo Bill?: Your opinion != Universal fact
  42. dyn.Martn: Yeah
  43. dyn.Martn: care
  44. dyn.Martn: Really
  45. dyn.Martn: Opinions matter fuck all in the end
  46. Buffalo Bill?: Very interesting
  47. dyn.Martn Cinnamon>> Vanilla!: If the admins want something
  48. dyn.Martn Cinnamon>> Vanilla!: They do it
  49. dyn.Martn Cinnamon>> Vanilla!: If you do not agree
  50. dyn.Martn Cinnamon>> Vanilla!: Screw you then
  51. dyn.Martn Cinnamon>> Vanilla!: That's how it works
  52. Have You with Buffalo Bill?: You try push your values on other people.
  53. dyn.Martn Cinnamon>> Vanilla!: Not at all.
  54. Have You with Buffalo Bill?: Yes you do.
  55. Have You with Buffalo Bill?: Everything you want unlocks
  56. dyn.Martn Cinnamon>> Vanilla!: I do not try to convince you to be pro cinnamon
  57. Have You with Buffalo Bill?: It do not care that they do not want.
  58. dyn.Martn Cinnamon>> Vanilla!: I only say that I do happen to agree with what the admins have decided
  59. Have You with Buffalo Bill?: * What a few of the admins have decided
  60. Have You with Buffalo Bill?: Regardless of what the community asks
  61. dyn.Martn Cinnamon>> Vanilla!: That's life bill
  62. dyn.Martn Cinnamon>> Vanilla!: Most Americans do not want HealthCare
  63. dyn.Martn Cinnamon>> Vanilla!: Obama presses through healthcare.
  64. Have You with Buffalo Bill? "Just because it is, Does not Mean it's Right"
  65. Have You with Buffalo Bill?: ETF2L throw in for S10 dust bowl, gold rush and junction in the map pool
  66. Have You with Buffalo Bill?: And make unlocks like the sydney sleeper required
  67. dyn.Martn Cinnamon>> Vanilla!: I would go to another league
  68. Have You with Buffalo Bill?: Those rules> cinnamon
  69. Have You with Buffalo Bill?: Deal with it
  70. Have You with Buffalo Bill?: That's how moronic your behavior is now.
  71. dyn.Martn Cinnamon>> Vanilla!: if we start like that
  72. Have You with Buffalo Bill?: And fyi
  73. Have You with Buffalo Bill?: 200 in 1 day = nothing
  74. Have You with Buffalo Bill?: For S7 / 8 after the first day we had roughly 300
  75. dyn.Martn Cinnamon>> Vanilla!: 1 day is not over yet
  76. Have You with Buffalo Bill?: Yes because that last 4 hours also make much difference
  77. Have You with Buffalo Bill?: Prem is almost all gone
  78. dyn.Martn Cinnamon>> Vanilla!: Almost all prem?
  79. dyn.Martn Cinnamon>> Vanilla!: What then?
  80. Have You with Buffalo Bill?: Div1 follow a number of
  81. Have You with Buffalo Bill?: Yes
  82. dyn.Martn Cinnamon>> Vanilla!: just 3 at the moment you know
  83. Have You with Buffalo Bill?: Dignitas, power gaming, redcode, FB, YYT, refuse
  84. Have You with Buffalo Bill?: No darling
  85. dyn.Martn Cinnamon>> Vanilla!: FB isn't
  86. Have You with Buffalo Bill?: They are: p
  87. dyn.Martn Cinnamon>> Vanilla!: Exfane talked to me and racio yesterday.
  88. dyn.Martn Cinnamon>> Vanilla!: I've heard him say that they remain in etf2l
  89. Have You with Buffalo Bill?: Exfane has today said that they did not participate
  90. Have You with Buffalo Bill?: But
  91. Have You with Buffalo Bill?: Whatever
  92. Have You with Buffalo Bill?: That's one less
  93. dyn.Martn Cinnamon>> Vanilla!, There remain plenty of good teams
  94. Have You with Buffalo Bill?: Lol no
  95. dyn.Martn Cinnamon>> Vanilla!: TCM, BB, Epsilon
  96. Have You with Buffalo Bill?: Epsilon will probably leave too
  97. Have You with Buffalo Bill?: F2, cube and slick, all three said they will not participate
  98. dyn.Martn Cinnamon>> Vanilla!: Epsilon when they lost their star player etf2l Leaves
  99. Have You with Buffalo Bill?: Their star player is extreme
  100. dyn.Martn Cinnamon>> Vanilla!: Shintaz
  101. Have You with Buffalo Bill?: Extreme Epsilon carried interest like a boss //(It actually translated like this!)
  102. Have You with Buffalo Bill?: Shintaz gone isnt that bad
  103. dyn.Martn Cinnamon>> Vanilla!: Extremer is worse than RYB
  104. Have You with Buffalo Bill?: LOL
  105. dyn.Martn Cinnamon>> Vanilla!: Dude seriously, reread this
  106. dyn.Martn Cinnamon>> Vanilla!: You take the game too seriously
  107. Have You with Buffalo Bill? "Too seriously"
  108. Have You with Buffalo Bill?: According to whom?
  109. Have You with Buffalo Bill?: Who determined what "too serious" is?
  110. Have You with Buffalo Bill?: Also
  111. Have You with Buffalo Bill?: You mention the two best demos in EU are bda
  112. Have You with Buffalo Bill?: * Bad
  113. Have You with Buffalo Bill?: It's really good that you say this in private
  114. dyn.Martn Cinnamon>> Vanilla!: RYB I call the best demo eu
  115. Have You with Buffalo Bill?: If this convo was to be held in ETF2L everybody would laugh at you.
  116. dyn.Martn Cinnamon>> Vanilla!: Meh
  117. Have You with Buffalo Bill?: Dyn.Martn Cinnamon>> Vanilla!: Extremer is worse than RYB
  118. dyn.Martn Cinnamon>> Vanilla!: Is that a dare?
  119. Have You with Buffalo Bill? "Worse than"
  120. dyn.Martn Cinnamon>> Vanilla!: Unlucky formulated
  121. Have You with Buffalo Bill?: It is as if you think ryb is bad/
  122. Have You with Buffalo Bill?: And no, that's not a dare
  123. Have You with Buffalo Bill?: But if you perceive it as such
  124. Have You with Buffalo Bill?: Go ahead
  125. dyn.Martn Cinnamon>> Vanilla!: QQ moar bill, QQ moar, and on that note, if you do not agree with etf2l, be so nice to go ESL and not ruining it for the rest.
  126. Have You with Buffalo Bill?: You mean like you and the admins ruining for me and others who agree with me?
  127. Have You with Buffalo Bill?: You hear us say you are bad because you have not joined ESL. You hear us say " your too bad to play without unlocks?
  128. dyn.Martn Cinnamon>> Vanilla!: I hear you say that playing unlocks play is no skill
  129. Have You with Buffalo Bill?: But you do behave as if we do that continuously, and continuous ruin the game for you.
  130. Have You with Buffalo Bill?: Because some unlocks, do.
  131. Have You with Buffalo Bill?: I really do not agree on every point with prem
  132. dyn.Martn Cinnamon>> Vanilla!: Come on
  133. Have You with Buffalo Bill?: But on many points they're right.
  134. dyn.Martn Cinnamon>> Vanilla!: For the main classes you have only 4 weapons
  135. dyn.Martn Cinnamon>> Vanilla! + Medlock
  136. dyn.Martn Cinnamon>> Vanilla!: Then you have a myriad of trivial weapons for utility classes
  137. Have You with Buffalo Bill?: ROFL
  138. Have You with Buffalo Bill?: Really?
  139. dyn.Martn Cinnamon>> Vanilla!: Almost not going to be used
  140. Have You with Buffalo Bill? "Trivial weapons?"
  141. Have You with Buffalo Bill?: Seriously?
  142. dyn.Martn Cinnamon>> Vanilla!: What weapon is so overpowered?
  143. Have You with Buffalo Bill?: If the authorized weapons 'trivial' you still have a huge amount to learn
  144. Have You with Buffalo Bill?: I did not say they are overpowered?
  145. Have You with Buffalo Bill?: Not trivial! = Overpowered
  146. dyn.Martn Cinnamon>> Vanilla!: What weapons do matter?
  147. Have You with Buffalo Bill?: Frontier Justice, Gunslinger, Jarate, C & D, Dead Ringer, Ambassador, Degreaser, Axetinguisher, Flaregun.
  148. Have You with Buffalo Bill?: probably I forget a couple, i have a headache.
  149. dyn.Martn Cinnamon>> Vanilla!: Good luck with your headache, I have a PCW
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