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  1. [2011-11-19 00:01:10] =-= Arkeus is now known as ArkSleep
  2. [2011-11-19 00:01:12] <ArkSleep> 7am
  3. [2011-11-19 00:01:15] <ArkSleep> goodnight folks
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  5. [2011-11-19 00:05:45] <MrTT> the problem with a guiny pig soul factory is: 1. they live too short a life, probably will not develop a soul. 2. What kind of powers does a guiny pig grant? In skyrim term, we want grand souls and they are probably petty souls.
  6. [2011-11-19 00:08:28] <MrTT> there are bigger things that can be bred and abused for soul generation though
  7. [2011-11-19 00:08:43] <MrTT> it is a good question on whether we really want to do so
  8. [2011-11-19 00:09:53] <Ironybot> I'm calling it a night as well. Will hopefully have the mental energy to scrape up a post including downvotes of certain items in others' posts as well as some constructive bits tomorrow morning before the next post is being written.
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  14. [2011-11-19 09:42:39] <Arkeus> hey Ironybot !
  15. [2011-11-19 09:42:40] <Arkeus> :D
  16. [2011-11-19 09:42:56] <Ironybot> Good morning.
  17. [2011-11-19 09:42:57] <Arkeus> Thought of a few things while trying to sleep earlier on
  18. [2011-11-19 09:43:30] <Arkeus> Do you have any good idea for rebuilding our mere into a Contract Artifact that could help us bind souls that are much strongr than ours?
  19. [2011-11-19 09:43:59] <AlratanMobile> You know, I wonder if, rather than Border, another general winter soul practitioner bloodline would be better
  20. [2011-11-19 09:44:00] <Arkeus> I was thinking imbuing our eyepatch for greater hiding/catching but i don't have a solid idea on how to do it
  21. [2011-11-19 09:44:13] <Arkeus> Depends what you mean by 'General'
  22. [2011-11-19 09:44:33] <Ironybot> Rebuilding our mere into a Contract Artifact would require convincing Whaitiri that it would be worth the investment of energy to do so, above all other considerations. What do we have to offer her, or what persuasive tactic can we use, to convince her to invest that kind of power when she's not even back to her proper appearance yet?
  23. [2011-11-19 09:44:54] <Arkeus> Ironybot: actually, it doesn't
  24. [2011-11-19 09:45:01] <Ironybot> Oh?
  25. [2011-11-19 09:45:27] <Arkeus> Interestingly enough, she already has a portal to the 'mere', so all it needs is power, and it can get power (the mere) by eating divine aspected energy that is its like
  26. [2011-11-19 09:45:35] <Arkeus> Like the Stallon fragment rocks
  27. [2011-11-19 09:45:56] <Arkeus> However, asking Whaitiri for direction while doing it could be good
  28. [2011-11-19 09:46:09] <Arkeus> But as she doesn't need to invest herself, she'll probably be VERY glad to help
  29. [2011-11-19 09:46:21] <Arkeus> As it would give her a constant contract artifact to gain power from
  30. [2011-11-19 09:47:35] <Arkeus> AlratanMobile: Another 'General' soul manipulation bloodline might be good, but we'll have to learn of one that synergize particularly well wiht Sami/Romanov (as in, gives what the other lacks while still linking with them), and it also needs to be a really powerful one
  31. [2011-11-19 09:49:20] <Ironybot> If it's a Contract artifact, then by definition it has both a Contract- that is, a bargain between the user and a god- and is an artifact, that is, is an extremely powerful magic item. For the first, she hasn't arranged any kind of Contract with it yet; she's just connected to it. And for the second, it might be a very long time before we can personally hunt down enough Divine energy to...
  32. [2011-11-19 09:49:20] <Ironybot> ...boost the mere up to artifact level.
  33. [2011-11-19 09:49:22] <AlratanMobile> Yes, all true
  34. [2011-11-19 09:49:44] <A_Mad_Oyster> If only we had Einherjar post-death soul boost...
  35. [2011-11-19 09:49:55] <Arkeus> Ironybot: not quite
  36. [2011-11-19 09:49:59] <Arkeus> we have a contract already
  37. [2011-11-19 09:50:03] <Ironybot> On the bloodline bit, from my understanding any conceptual bloodline will not break our soul combo and can potentially synergize.
  38. [2011-11-19 09:50:04] <AlratanMobile> We can try two things
  39. [2011-11-19 09:50:04] <AlratanMobile> A piece of the sieidis to provide an anchor for her divine power
  40. [2011-11-19 09:50:15] <Ironybot> WE have a contract with her; the mere does not.
  41. [2011-11-19 09:50:16] <Arkeus> It's been confirmed we already have the necessary contract with her
  42. [2011-11-19 09:50:24] <Arkeus> Yes, but it's enough
  43. [2011-11-19 09:50:31] <AlratanMobile> We have a contract with her?
  44. [2011-11-19 09:50:43] <AlratanMobile> Interesting
  45. [2011-11-19 09:50:48] <Arkeus> Keep in mind, Ironybot, that the mere has a direct link to her NeverNever plane
  46. [2011-11-19 09:51:13] <Arkeus> And the 'hunt down' the divine enrgy, we can do that right now
  47. [2011-11-19 09:51:23] <Ironybot> Hrm. But then how can we claim that it's a Contract Artifact, if we have a Contract totally unrelated to it? That's not what it is, then, just a normal divinely powered artifact.
  48. [2011-11-19 09:51:40] <Arkeus> It will BECOME one
  49. [2011-11-19 09:51:59] <Arkeus> Whaitiri will use the Divine energy to make it one
  50. [2011-11-19 09:52:04] <Arkeus> It won't cost her anything
  51. [2011-11-19 09:52:08] <Arkeus> And it will give her LOTS
  52. [2011-11-19 09:52:17] <AlratanMobile> We should also look for things like the sieidis that help divine power/gods manifest
  53. [2011-11-19 09:52:37] <Arkeus> <TheBeardiestBob> only the 'unnatural' gods get to be so heavy handed in interacting with the world-natural gods have to go with artifacts, contracts, finding some sort of vessel, that sort of thing <= Why whaitiri would like the idea
  54. [2011-11-19 09:53:10] <AlratanMobile> Hence, Sieidis
  55. [2011-11-19 09:53:24] <Arkeus> And we can get fragments via favor
  56. [2011-11-19 09:53:36] <AlratanMobile> There are two seperate things here
  57. [2011-11-19 09:54:18] <AlratanMobile> Pieces of Sieidis
  58. [2011-11-19 09:54:53] <AlratanMobile> And things like Stallon's shattered eyes, which are his divine power condensed
  59. [2011-11-19 09:56:29] <Arkeus> Anyway, Ironybot, i was thinking about trying to find a good way to rebuild the mere into something that could help us with that
  60. [2011-11-19 09:57:01] <Arkeus> Either make it that the finale hit on a opponent bind his soul, or somehow merge it with eyepatch to enhance Hiding/Eating/Binding
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  62. [2011-11-19 09:57:56] <AlratanMobile_> Did I miss anything
  63. [2011-11-19 09:58:05] <Ironybot> Knife that cuts through anything and eats souls is a pretty classy weapon, not going to argue. I would be somewhat concerned about what drawback would emerge from that powerset.
  64. [2011-11-19 09:58:39] <Arkeus> Well, the mere already does that
  65. [2011-11-19 09:58:55] <Arkeus> What i want is for it to be able to 'bind' them upon death
  66. [2011-11-19 09:59:00] <AlratanMobile_> We don't really want it to eat souls
  67. [2011-11-19 09:59:11] <Arkeus> It already does that
  68. [2011-11-19 09:59:25] <Arkeus> Having been no less than nine feet away when I fired, it's absolutely nothing to leap forward-and plunge my mere straight into the resolving ghostly image of the felled shaman. Unlike with the Domovoi, at the blade's touch the spirit violently unravels-and is no more. <= there
  69. [2011-11-19 09:59:31] <Ironybot> My impression is that right now it eats their physical form, not their soul. So it gets the same kind of power that we get out of eating things' bodies.
  70. [2011-11-19 09:59:40] <AlratanMobile_> A Whaitiri has no incentive for it to bind souls when the alternative is her eating them
  71. [2011-11-19 09:59:43] <AlratanMobile_> It eats souls
  72. [2011-11-19 09:59:49] <Arkeus> see quote i just made
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  74. [2011-11-19 09:59:54] =-= AlratanMobile_ is now known as AlratanMobile
  75. [2011-11-19 10:00:41] <Ironybot> I thought the unraveling was because it was a spiritual weapon, meaning it was good for use against spirits. Also, didn't that happen before Whaitiri was in it and eating everything it hit? It only gained that ability after our fight against Amen in our eye.
  76. [2011-11-19 10:01:37] <Arkeus> Good point
  77. [2011-11-19 10:01:52] <Arkeus> Well, We know the mere doesn't just eat physical form
  78. [2011-11-19 10:01:56] <Arkeus> It also eat magic
  79. [2011-11-19 10:02:04] <Arkeus> let's see if it eat souls...
  80. [2011-11-19 10:02:52] <Arkeus> >[Whaitiri]"Feaster, know that in here or in the flesh, the weapon you carry is now host to some of my hunger. Spirit or Flesh, Shadow or Magic-all can be cut, rent, consumed. <= it can
  81. [2011-11-19 10:03:21] <Ironybot> Now, that's a much more convincing quote.
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  83. [2011-11-19 10:04:05] <Arkeus> Also, it eating Shadow might be really helpful for SB
  84. [2011-11-19 10:05:10] <Arkeus> But, yeah, if we just want to rebuild it as a mere, we can simply Enhance it with fragments, with some diamond coating...
  85. [2011-11-19 10:05:30] <Arkeus> But we might want to give it some kind of 'thunder' attribute', as well as enhance its cannibalism attribute
  86. [2011-11-19 10:05:44] <Arkeus> probably by sacrficing shadow and physical hearts
  87. [2011-11-19 10:06:05] <Ironybot> For all we know, Shadowbro has been cutting on creatures in the Dark left and right with his shadowmere.
  88. [2011-11-19 10:06:17] <Arkeus> He probably has
  89. [2011-11-19 10:06:29] <Arkeus> We know SB can attack other people's shadow with the mere, too
  90. [2011-11-19 10:07:00] <Arkeus> The mere being both for us and SB is a reason i really want to improve it
  91. [2011-11-19 10:07:45] <Ironybot> Shadowbro cutting on people is one of our more terrifying capabilities. To a normal person, at least, it's virtually unstoppable- just something they can't touch or stop coming for them and slicing them up, and they can't do anything about it- are ill equipped to even dodge.
  92. [2011-11-19 10:08:22] <Arkeus> Yes
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  94. [2011-11-19 10:08:39] <Arkeus> When he'll be stronger, he'll aslo be able to eat people's shadows iirc
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  96. [2011-11-19 10:10:00] <Ironybot> I thought he couldn't get that power unless he became a shadowfiend?
  97. [2011-11-19 10:10:04] <Arkeus> But like i said earlier, having something to help us bind powerful souls and then storing them in our eye is really useful
  98. [2011-11-19 10:10:36] <Arkeus> as it could either help us sacrifice them, or help us do spirit manipulation practice in secret, or get us to eat them slowly, or we could even sacrifice them to whaitiri
  99. [2011-11-19 10:10:45] <Arkeus> Which would be utterly undetectable
  100. [2011-11-19 10:11:10] <Arkeus> Ironybot: iirc, he already has it, but maybe bob changed his mind
  101. [2011-11-19 10:11:13] <Ironybot> We can already bind most souls and shove 'em in our eye with our bloodline powers, which will only become stronger when we finally finish our bloodline. We don't have much of a reference point for what the limits on that capability are, so I'm not sure that investing in boosting it is necessary or a good cost/benefit trade.
  102. [2011-11-19 10:11:44] <Arkeus> Well, i don't think, for example, we could bind Doony or Devil
  103. [2011-11-19 10:11:58] <Arkeus> OTOH, it's possible we could buy a potion to help us with that
  104. [2011-11-19 10:12:21] <Arkeus> I think talking with Red Caps about that is needed
  105. [2011-11-19 10:12:30] <Arkeus> They might be knoweldgeable about this
  106. [2011-11-19 10:14:31] <Ironybot> About soul binding? How does that fall into their likely skillset?
  107. [2011-11-19 10:15:03] <Arkeus> We know they eat souls, so it's possibly they might know about it
  108. [2011-11-19 10:15:17] <Ironybot> ...we know they eat souls?
  109. [2011-11-19 10:16:07] <Arkeus> >[Ricky][In Turkish]"Sounds like a very heavy soul, to survive such things with regularity-oh come on 'Lucy' it sounds tasty enough and there's food all around us can't we just-"
  110. [2011-11-19 10:17:48] <Dart666> does anybody else thinks that armas is a low level organic soul grave
  111. [2011-11-19 10:18:09] <Ironybot> I try to carefully avoid comparisons between Golem Quest and Guns for Hire when possible.
  112. [2011-11-19 10:19:30] <Arkeus> Yeah, it's better that way
  113. [2011-11-19 10:20:06] <Arkeus> I do think it's possible it's an alternate Armas that dicked with our soul, though
  114. [2011-11-19 10:20:58] <Ironybot> I think that's likely ascribing more importance to ourselves than we deserve.
  115. [2011-11-19 10:21:36] <Arkeus> :-)
  116. [2011-11-19 10:25:00] <Arkeus> -If I really want to talk to some sort of expert on it, I'd have to seek out a major Winter spirit that would be inclined to answer. <= mmmh
  117. [2011-11-19 10:38:48] <Captain-Lightning> http://www.wimp.com/oldsesame/
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  119. [2011-11-19 10:44:12] <Ironybot> That man is a pusher... for a letter of the alphabet.
  120. [2011-11-19 10:44:37] <Ironybot> And he's singing. I don't remember that show being that hilarious.
  121. [2011-11-19 10:44:44] <AlratanMobile> I do wonder if it's possible to buy charms that enhance aspects of our abilities
  122. [2011-11-19 10:45:41] <AlratanMobile> Like enchanting the eyepatch to penetrate disguised or hidden souls
  123. [2011-11-19 10:45:55] <AlratanMobile> Such as the Disciples have
  124. [2011-11-19 10:46:21] <AlratanMobile> Going from hiding things to detecting other things which are hidden
  125. [2011-11-19 10:47:38] <Arkeus> Charms that gives 'Bonus' should exist, yes
  126. [2011-11-19 10:48:49] <AlratanMobile> As we may want to focus on them, rather than new capabilities
  127. [2011-11-19 10:49:13] <AlratanMobile> Like those charms the Disciples had to focus/amplify their soul
  128. [2011-11-19 10:50:09] <Arkeus> We need to learn to increase our perceptions anyway, though
  129. [2011-11-19 10:52:05] <AlratanMobile> We do, and to analyse what we perceive
  130. [2011-11-19 10:53:17] <AlratanMobile> I think we should buy training in the principles of detecting, perceiving, and analysing soul
  131. [2011-11-19 10:53:31] <Arkeus> Yes, that's one of the thing to buy training on
  132. [2011-11-19 10:53:40] <Arkeus> But more general magical sensing should help, too
  133. [2011-11-19 10:54:30] <Arkeus> Some of the things to get in exchange:
  134. [2011-11-19 10:54:30] <Arkeus> +Shadow food for SB
  135. [2011-11-19 10:54:30] <Arkeus> +Food types that are especially good for mental health, mental acuity, mental resistance to damage.
  136. [2011-11-19 10:54:30] <Arkeus> +Lessons on magical sensing, lessons on charms crafting <= what i posted in case your idea to see SM was take
  137. [2011-11-19 10:54:32] <Arkeus> taken
  138. [2011-11-19 11:04:55] |<-- AlratanMobile has left irc.rizon.net (Quit: AlratanMobile)
  139. [2011-11-19 11:06:48] <Arkeus> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Fv0fstGXWmc
  140. [2011-11-19 11:06:49] <Classhole> Arkeus: MLP:FiM Season 2 Episode 7 [480p] - length 21m 33s - rated 4.94/5.0 (488) - 304 views - EnjoyOopslol on 2011.11.19
  141. [2011-11-19 11:10:44] <Samar> ?gFH
  142. [2011-11-19 11:10:45] <Classhole> http://tgchan.org/kusaba/quest/res/360354+50.html
  143. [2011-11-19 11:10:47] <Samar> ?GFH
  144. [2011-11-19 11:10:47] <Classhole> http://tgchan.org/kusaba/quest/res/360354+50.html
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  146. [2011-11-19 11:20:00] <Samar> anyone know if the Archmage quarters count as safe storage after you become Archmage?
  147. [2011-11-19 11:22:01] <Wutenheimer> i believe it's classified as your house
  148. [2011-11-19 11:22:14] <Wutenheimer> just like breezehome or any of the other houses
  149. [2011-11-19 11:22:18] <Wutenheimer> so it should be good
  150. [2011-11-19 11:22:35] <Wutenheimer> havent stored anything there personally, i keep almost everything in the solitude manor
  151. [2011-11-19 11:22:47] <Arkeus> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Fv0fstGXWmc
  152. [2011-11-19 11:22:48] <Classhole> Arkeus: MLP:FiM Season 2 Episode 7 [480p] - length 21m 33s - rated 4.94/5.0 (540) - 304 views - EnjoyOopslol on 2011.11.19
  153. [2011-11-19 11:22:51] <Arkeus> for Wutenheimer
  154. [2011-11-19 11:22:59] <Arkeus> Also, gotta lol at fluttershy nodding her head
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  162. [2011-11-19 11:40:50] <Arkeus> hey Guile
  163. [2011-11-19 11:40:53] <Arkeus> saw new pony?
  164. [2011-11-19 11:50:29] <Guile> still havent seen the last pony
  165. [2011-11-19 11:54:13] <The_MAD_Gambler> !!
  166. [2011-11-19 11:54:13] <Classhole> !?
  167. [2011-11-19 11:54:20] <The_MAD_Gambler> oh yes, ponies
  168. [2011-11-19 11:54:23] <The_MAD_Gambler> i keep forgetting :<
  169. [2011-11-19 11:57:32] <MrTT> say, does the skyrim high end disintegrating effect of shock destroy their gear?
  170. [2011-11-19 11:57:58] <Wutenheimer> no
  171. [2011-11-19 11:58:35] <Wutenheimer> so i just crafted a little under 200 hide bracers
  172. [2011-11-19 11:58:46] <Wutenheimer> then i enchanted 120 of them
  173. [2011-11-19 11:59:15] <Wutenheimer> now i'm down 6k and an imperial tonne of shitty soul gems
  174. [2011-11-19 11:59:35] <Wutenheimer> but i'm up HUGE PILES OF USELESS BRACERS I'LL NEVER BE ABLE TO SELL
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  176. [2011-11-19 11:59:58] <Wutenheimer> oh, and a measly 40 smithing skill and 20 enchanting skill
  177. [2011-11-19 12:00:00] <HobNobbyNob> Holy shit mibbit comes up with good names sometimes
  178. [2011-11-19 12:00:16] <HobNobbyNob> Because all I have to do...
  179. [2011-11-19 12:00:22] =-= HobNobbyNob is now known as HobNobbyBob
  180. [2011-11-19 12:00:27] <HobNobbyBob> And now it's relevant!
  181. [2011-11-19 12:00:27] <Wutenheimer> went from 20 smithing to 67, and 75 to 94 enchanting
  182. [2011-11-19 12:00:32] <Wutenheimer> [12:58:41] <Wutenheimer> so i just crafted a little under 200 hide bracers
  183. [2011-11-19 12:00:32] <Wutenheimer> [12:58:52] <Wutenheimer> then i enchanted 120 of them
  184. [2011-11-19 12:00:32] <Wutenheimer> [12:59:21] <Wutenheimer> now i'm down 6k and an imperial tonne of shitty soul gems
  185. [2011-11-19 12:00:32] <Wutenheimer> [12:59:41] <Wutenheimer> but i'm up HUGE PILES OF USELESS BRACERS I'LL NEVER BE ABLE TO SELL
  186. [2011-11-19 12:00:32] <Wutenheimer> [12:59:42] * HobNobbyNob (cgiirc@Rizon-782A7F7C.hsd1.ca.comcast.net) has joined #Golemquest
  187. [2011-11-19 12:00:33] <Arkeus> oh hi bob
  188. [2011-11-19 12:01:00] <HobNobbyBob> Ah, Enchant and Armoring: easiest shit to powerlevel in Skyrim
  189. [2011-11-19 12:01:10] <Arkeus> nah
  190. [2011-11-19 12:01:16] <Arkeus> pickpocketing
  191. [2011-11-19 12:01:17] <Wutenheimer> because of that i went from level 25 to level 31
  192. [2011-11-19 12:01:18] <Arkeus> so much easier
  193. [2011-11-19 12:01:23] <HobNobbyBob> That's not as easy
  194. [2011-11-19 12:01:30] <Wutenheimer> nope, chance of getting fucked
  195. [2011-11-19 12:01:31] <Arkeus> I went from level 15 in pickopecket to 80
  196. [2011-11-19 12:01:34] <Arkeus> in like, half an hour
  197. [2011-11-19 12:01:42] <Wutenheimer> oh, ok
  198. [2011-11-19 12:01:44] <HobNobbyBob> can you level pickpocket TWENTY LEVELS from having spent a couple hundred at a merchant on Iron and leather?
  199. [2011-11-19 12:01:47] <HobNobbyBob> No, no you can't.
  200. [2011-11-19 12:01:49] <Wutenheimer> cause i did that in 20 mins
  201. [2011-11-19 12:01:51] <HobNobbyBob> So it's not as easy.
  202. [2011-11-19 12:01:52] <Arkeus> yes, you can
  203. [2011-11-19 12:01:56] <Arkeus> Think about ti
  204. [2011-11-19 12:02:00] <Wutenheimer> iron and leather? nah bro, just leather
  205. [2011-11-19 12:02:02] <Arkeus> you take 300, and pay a trainer
  206. [2011-11-19 12:02:04] <Arkeus> for anything
  207. [2011-11-19 12:02:06] <Arkeus> like enchanting
  208. [2011-11-19 12:02:10] <Arkeus> and then you steal money back
  209. [2011-11-19 12:02:14] <Arkeus> then you pay the traienr again
  210. [2011-11-19 12:02:16] <Wutenheimer> how about pickpocketing
  211. [2011-11-19 12:02:17] <Arkeus> then steal money back
  212. [2011-11-19 12:02:22] <HobNobbyBob> Arkeus, you still have to deal with training level cap
  213. [2011-11-19 12:02:33] <Arkeus> each time you steal money, you get 3-4 levels in pickpocket
  214. [2011-11-19 12:02:36] <HobNobbyBob> I'm specifically talking about power leveling a skill, not powerlevelling your level
  215. [2011-11-19 12:02:42] <Arkeus> As in, i trained solely destruction, and i pickpocketed
  216. [2011-11-19 12:02:46] <HobNobbyBob> what you suggest will have other skills artificially inflate your level
  217. [2011-11-19 12:02:48] <Arkeus> destruction went from 2 to 40
  218. [2011-11-19 12:02:50] <Arkeus> 20
  219. [2011-11-19 12:02:56] <Arkeus> pickpocket from 15 to 80
  220. [2011-11-19 12:03:30] <Arkeus> HobNobbyBob: then find a pickpocket trainer if you just want to improve pickpocket
  221. [2011-11-19 12:03:38] <Ironybot> The logic of repeatedly paying someone for something and then stealing your pay back is mind-boggling, when thought of outside the context of a video game. That's seriously crazy shit. Like something even Armas would find wholly unreasonable.
  222. [2011-11-19 12:03:40] <Arkeus> you can gian more than level per pickpocket
  223. [2011-11-19 12:03:49] <Arkeus> Ironybot: eheheh
  224. [2011-11-19 12:03:55] <Arkeus> oops
  225. [2011-11-19 12:04:09] <Arkeus> You can gain more than one level of pickpocket each tiem you steal your money back
  226. [2011-11-19 12:05:01] <Arkeus> ANYWAY
  227. [2011-11-19 12:05:04] <Arkeus> Good morning bob
  228. [2011-11-19 12:05:17] <MrTT> "<Wutenheimer> but i'm up HUGE PILES OF USELESS BRACERS I'LL NEVER BE ABLE TO SELL" - sure you can, quicktravel to a city. Cell bracers to general stores and smiths. Each one would have about 750 gold which should be good for about 8-9 bracers. Some cities have more then one of the same store. For example whiterun has 2 smithes.
  229. [2011-11-19 12:05:22] <Guile> and yet, the trollishness would appeal to Armas
  230. [2011-11-19 12:05:33] <Guile> Steal back money, fill his pockets with rocks instead
  231. [2011-11-19 12:05:44] <Guile> or arcade tokens
  232. [2011-11-19 12:05:46] <Wutenheimer> i know but that takes almost as long as buying all the leather to make them
  233. [2011-11-19 12:05:50] <MrTT> once you sell them you wouldn't be down much on money anymore. And make sure to look at value when enchanting and use the most expensive enchantments to get the maximum refund
  234. [2011-11-19 12:06:02] <MrTT> yes it does
  235. [2011-11-19 12:06:10] <MrTT> also make iron daggers
  236. [2011-11-19 12:06:22] <MrTT> 1 iron ignot + 1 leather strip
  237. [2011-11-19 12:06:28] <Arkeus> Yeah, usually iron dagger are what people use for enchanting/smith levelling
  238. [2011-11-19 12:06:47] <Guile> anybody here a paralegal? I'm thinking about getting my cert
  239. [2011-11-19 12:07:02] <MrTT> boots are easier to unload, ayou can sell them to court mages, general stores, and blacksmithes
  240. [2011-11-19 12:07:02] <Arkeus> didn't Alratan work in law (scary thought)
  241. [2011-11-19 12:07:11] <MrTT> I got level 100 on both smithing and enchanting
  242. [2011-11-19 12:07:26] <Guile> is this a good thing to have?
  243. [2011-11-19 12:07:26] <Arkeus> Anyway, i must be careful not to powerlevel too much
  244. [2011-11-19 12:07:37] <Arkeus> my 80 in pickpocketing isn't really helpful with a mage <_<
  245. [2011-11-19 12:07:44] <MrTT> right now i need to reforge my dragon armor with the double effect perk, but first I want to find the +smithing enchant
  246. [2011-11-19 12:07:44] <Arkeus> I want 100 though
  247. [2011-11-19 12:08:46] <MrTT> dammit i want the patch already
  248. [2011-11-19 12:08:51] <MrTT> bugs are the sux0r
  249. [2011-11-19 12:09:58] <HobNobbyBob> http://images.4chan.org/co/src/1321721705292.jpg
  250. [2011-11-19 12:10:00] <HobNobbyBob> For some reason
  251. [2011-11-19 12:10:09] <HobNobbyBob> this picture makes me want to watch the Avatar series again
  252. [2011-11-19 12:10:11] <HobNobbyBob> what the hell brain
  253. [2011-11-19 12:10:15] <HobNobbyBob> what's the association here?
  254. [2011-11-19 12:10:16] <MrTT> oh god
  255. [2011-11-19 12:10:33] <HobNobbyBob> EAT THE SHORTENING TOWER
  256. [2011-11-19 12:10:35] <HobNobbyBob> DO IT
  257. [2011-11-19 12:11:28] <MrTT> mmm... lots of associations... the waterbenders are oreos? that one cookie is the chosen one? the cookie mountain kinda reminds me of the mountain at the opening theme of avatar?
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  259. [2011-11-19 12:13:55] <Arkeus> http://images.icanhascheezburger.com/completestore/2008/8/25/pleasesirc128641546219183794.jpg heh
  260. [2011-11-19 12:14:53] <MrTT> dawww
  261. [2011-11-19 12:15:44] <Arkeus> http://www.halolz.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/11/halolz-dot-com-skyrim-physics-bitchimahorse.jpg
  262. [2011-11-19 12:17:28] <Ironybot> Horseshoes of spider climb. Never leave home without them.
  263. [2011-11-19 12:17:49] <Ironybot> ...well, you can leave home without them if you're not planning to take a horse.
  264. [2011-11-19 12:18:00] <MrTT> skyrim simple borderless window updated to v9
  265. [2011-11-19 12:18:11] <Arkeus> any differences?
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  267. [2011-11-19 12:21:28] <Arkeus> btw bob, why is your nick relevant?
  268. [2011-11-19 12:22:32] <Arkeus> >[EV][In English]"Hm... that was actually my first sought-out fight after I faced the Estonian Dragon. <= This makes it sounds like he tried to fight a Ruler Dragon. He didn't though, right?
  269. [2011-11-19 12:23:24] <MrTT> yes
  270. [2011-11-19 12:23:56] <MrTT> there is now an option to force minimize on alt-tab, a quickkey, choosing the operation status (background=2 is nice)
  271. [2011-11-19 12:24:00] <MrTT> and some other things
  272. [2011-11-19 12:24:08] <Ironybot> Einrik was apparently at least as suicidally reckless in his youth as we are now.
  273. [2011-11-19 12:24:18] <MrTT> i am gonna use a bat file to launch it saying @ECHO OFF
  274. [2011-11-19 12:24:18] <MrTT> start SBW.exe launcher="SkyrimLauncher.exe" background=2 force=1
  275. [2011-11-19 12:24:18] <Arkeus> He still is kinda bad
  276. [2011-11-19 12:24:48] <Arkeus> There is a reason why Armas acknoweldged Einrik as a crazy motherfucker
  277. [2011-11-19 12:25:03] <Arkeus> Keep in mind Einrik also asked for his soul to be sculpted on
  278. [2011-11-19 12:25:06] <Arkeus> Crazy guy
  279. [2011-11-19 12:25:24] <MrTT> and oh wow does it work smooth
  280. [2011-11-19 12:25:33] <MrTT> i now launch it much easier and alt tabbing/going back into the game is perfect
  281. [2011-11-19 12:25:47] <MrTT> you should really upgrade to v9 and use the parameters I suggested
  282. [2011-11-19 12:26:14] <MrTT> then to launch the game you only need to run SBW.bat which runs the steam launcher, then hit play game and its all good from there
  283. [2011-11-19 12:26:31] <MrTT> note that it only checks every 15 seconds so it takes a bit to properly size
  284. [2011-11-19 12:29:17] <Arkeus> what does @ECHO OFF means?
  285. [2011-11-19 12:29:19] <Arkeus> or doeS?
  286. [2011-11-19 12:30:38] <Guile> If we ever get eyepatch-eyebeams, I will shortly have an art for it
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  288. [2011-11-19 12:31:28] <Ironybot> I think our endgame eyepatch is one that lets us gaze into the future, not one that shoots lasers.
  289. [2011-11-19 12:31:53] <Guile> can we have a midtier eyepatch that shoots lasers, then?
  290. [2011-11-19 12:31:54] <Ironybot> I suppose the two aren't necessarily mutually exclusive, although I find it unlikely that they would be brought together in a single item.
  291. [2011-11-19 12:32:11] <Arkeus> I want an eyepatch that helps our magical sight
  292. [2011-11-19 12:32:14] <Ironybot> We could just wear like four eyepatches on top of each other to stack the effects.
  293. [2011-11-19 12:32:18] <Arkeus> or a eyepatch that help us bind souls
  294. [2011-11-19 12:37:17] <Guile> THAT would be cool. Its like anime transformations. "Now you have forced me to transform into my next form!" "Don't you mean your LAST form?" "NO!"
  295. [2011-11-19 12:37:38] <Arkeus> ^^;
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  297. [2011-11-19 12:41:44] <Guile> is there a level cap in Skyrim?
  298. [2011-11-19 12:42:37] <Arkeus> a soft one
  299. [2011-11-19 12:42:48] <Arkeus> after 50, you need more and more skill level to get a level
  300. [2011-11-19 12:42:57] <Arkeus> and the max you can get is 81.5, iirc
  301. [2011-11-19 12:43:09] <Guile> but daedric armor shows up after 20?
  302. [2011-11-19 12:43:36] <Guile> maybe thats previous elder scrolls games
  303. [2011-11-19 12:46:55] <Arkeus> i don't think we can get Daedric armor easily
  304. [2011-11-19 12:47:02] <Arkeus> Not sure it's possible to get without crafting
  305. [2011-11-19 12:47:12] <Arkeus> and crafted daedric armor > found ones
  306. [2011-11-19 12:47:18] <Arkeus> As smithing really make armor better
  307. [2011-11-19 12:47:19] <HobNobbyBob> I still haven't seen it lying around at 40+
  308. [2011-11-19 12:47:52] <Arkeus> Also, going to stop playing my mages a bit and go full thief for a while
  309. [2011-11-19 12:48:02] <HobNobbyBob> Be a WARRIOR
  310. [2011-11-19 12:48:04] <Arkeus> I want to go on a pickpocketing spree
  311. [2011-11-19 12:48:05] <HobNobbyBob> way more fun
  312. [2011-11-19 12:48:16] <HobNobbyBob> decapitation ERRYWHERE
  313. [2011-11-19 12:48:23] <Arkeus> I prefer Naked people everywhere
  314. [2011-11-19 12:48:26] <Arkeus> :p
  315. [2011-11-19 12:49:53] <Arkeus> But, yeah, Pure Warrior is on my list too
  316. [2011-11-19 12:50:11] <HobNobbyBob> Some MAY tell you to go Nord
  317. [2011-11-19 12:50:13] <HobNobbyBob> which is fun sure
  318. [2011-11-19 12:50:15] <HobNobbyBob> but ORC
  319. [2011-11-19 12:50:39] <HobNobbyBob> You can be an White-faced LoTR Orc of Sarumon
  320. [2011-11-19 12:50:50] <HobNobbyBob> And have one of the best powers in the game
  321. [2011-11-19 12:51:04] <HobNobbyBob> double melee damage output, halve melee damage intake for a fairly long span of time.
  322. [2011-11-19 12:51:09] <HobNobbyBob> That...
  323. [2011-11-19 12:51:14] <HobNobbyBob> That can INFLUENCE shit right there.
  324. [2011-11-19 12:52:00] <Arkeus> Ah, playing a Kahjiit
  325. [2011-11-19 12:52:03] <Arkeus> everyone insults me
  326. [2011-11-19 12:52:04] <Arkeus> how fun
  327. [2011-11-19 12:52:05] <Arkeus> :-(
  328. [2011-11-19 12:52:23] <Guile> like, calling you a furry for picking khajit?
  329. [2011-11-19 12:52:23] <HobNobbyBob> I hope you labored to make the face look like GENERIC HOUSECAT
  330. [2011-11-19 12:52:25] <Arkeus> Yeah, Orc is good
  331. [2011-11-19 12:52:32] <Arkeus> no, i didn't labor lol
  332. [2011-11-19 12:52:43] <HobNobbyBob> Where is the Orc stronghold that gets mentioned in Markath, anyway?
  333. [2011-11-19 12:52:44] <Arkeus> Guile: people call me 'the cat'
  334. [2011-11-19 12:52:45] <Arkeus> :-(
  335. [2011-11-19 12:53:04] <Arkeus> Berserk potion is the same as Orc's power, right?
  336. [2011-11-19 12:53:18] <Arkeus> Apparently best class for pure warrior is Breton/Orc
  337. [2011-11-19 12:53:22] <Arkeus> Breton is so damn good
  338. [2011-11-19 12:53:35] <HobNobbyBob> Fuck them noodle-wristed pansies
  339. [2011-11-19 12:53:39] <HobNobbyBob> this is Skyrim
  340. [2011-11-19 12:53:55] <HobNobbyBob> This isn't an elvish or civilized land
  341. [2011-11-19 12:53:57] <HobNobbyBob> this is
  342. [2011-11-19 12:53:59] <HobNobbyBob> BEAR TO THE FACE
  343. [2011-11-19 12:54:00] <HobNobbyBob> land
  344. [2011-11-19 12:55:39] <Guile> so, overall, Skyrim is good?
  345. [2011-11-19 12:55:45] <Guile> even on a shitty computer?
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  347. [2011-11-19 12:58:28] <HobNobbyBob> Just a minor blurb as I work through the update
  348. [2011-11-19 12:58:35] <HobNobbyBob> Yes there is nothing preventing you from it.
  349. [2011-11-19 12:58:41] <Samar> wat?
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  352. [2011-11-19 12:59:00] <HobNobbyBob> It's still horrible planning to throw out tangential/new plans unrelated to current pursuits when currently engaged
  353. [2011-11-19 12:59:14] <HobNobbyBob> case in point: Armas is heading to Ito's.
  354. [2011-11-19 12:59:29] <HobNobbyBob> How many posts are majority focused on things COMPLETELY unrelated to going to Ito's?
  355. [2011-11-19 12:59:51] <Guile> I dunno. Lots?
  356. [2011-11-19 13:00:02] <Guile> Just a guess
  357. [2011-11-19 13:00:13] <HobNobbyBob> As a followup, how many of these things are interpretable as time-sensitive enough that it would be logical to side track into them?
  358. [2011-11-19 13:00:31] <Arkeus> <Guile> even on a shitty computer? <= skyrim doesn't need a high end comp
  359. [2011-11-19 13:00:32] <Arkeus> at all
  360. [2011-11-19 13:00:52] <Guile> maybe Hafaz? Not the files, thats for sure
  361. [2011-11-19 13:01:03] <Arkeus> Gettign the files in the way isn't bad
  362. [2011-11-19 13:01:06] <Arkeus> If we can get them
  363. [2011-11-19 13:01:21] <Arkeus> And talkign to hafaz is semi-important, as we already amde him wait an hour
  364. [2011-11-19 13:01:36] <Arkeus> OTOH, i'd prefer not to have too much stuff to do before going to ito
  365. [2011-11-19 13:01:55] <Guile> we also SAVED HISASS FROM BLACKBEARD
  366. [2011-11-19 13:02:02] <HobNobbyBob> I'm not denying SOME of it is actually completely valid
  367. [2011-11-19 13:02:02] <Guile> changed my mind; he can wait
  368. [2011-11-19 13:02:38] <HobNobbyBob> I'm just noting how little of the total new suggestion material that is non-ito falls into the 'valid' category.
  369. [2011-11-19 13:02:45] <HobNobbyBob> Then there's shot's suggestion
  370. [2011-11-19 13:02:56] <HobNobbyBob> which... paraphrases the prompt for suggestions as a suggestion
  371. [2011-11-19 13:02:59] <HobNobbyBob> Wut?
  372. [2011-11-19 13:04:20] <Guile> that is mildly hilarious. Thank you, shot, we will now discuss what is good and not to reveal as we go over there, so it does not take all day.
  373. [2011-11-19 13:05:19] <Arkeus> And, yeah, some of the suggestions are pretty bad
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  375. [2011-11-19 13:05:38] <Arkeus> Keep in mind i made mine 2-3 days ago, just after alratan's which was onyl about seeing SM
  376. [2011-11-19 13:05:42] <Arkeus> so i had to comment on that bit
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  378. [2011-11-19 13:06:33] <Guile> what color should our eyebeam-that-we'll-likely-never-have be? I'm leaning towards periwinkle, since yellow is overdone for energy beams
  379. [2011-11-19 13:06:57] <Arkeus> don't forget the orange stars in it
  380. [2011-11-19 13:09:07] <Ironybot> A good number of the suggestions made ended up SUST'd. Although sometimes the post numbers linked are off because the post got deleted and reposted, making the SUST now link to a missing post with no indication of what precisely that post said.
  381. [2011-11-19 13:09:17] <Ironybot> Which is annoying.
  382. [2011-11-19 13:09:24] <HobNobbyBob> You 'HAD' to comment?
  383. [2011-11-19 13:09:52] <Guile> it was BEGGING for it, the slut
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  385. [2011-11-19 13:10:36] <HobNobbyBob> At what point did you come to the conclusion commentary on other posts was required? Certainly you can link and SUST other posts as you deem appropriate-but for plans you are not supporting, there's no need for anything more than that.
  386. [2011-11-19 13:11:03] <A_Greedy_Squid> Whoa, Bob
  387. [2011-11-19 13:14:03] <Ironybot> As a general rule, I would consider a SUST without any kind of justifying logic to be rather rude to the player who made the suggestion, although going on for paragraphs about how terrible their plan is does nothing but waste words and lead us towards arguments. But just saying "SUST" leaves the frustrating question of "What the hell didn't you like about my post? Did I make some kind of...
  388. [2011-11-19 13:14:03] <Ironybot> ...logical mistake, work from a bad premise, or do you just disagree with the direction I'm taking Armas?"
  389. [2011-11-19 13:14:45] <Ironybot> A sentence of two might not be strictly needed, but it is rather polite.
  390. [2011-11-19 13:15:03] <Guile> TT is usually pretty good about that, even if I disagree with his SUSTing my perfectly logical and well-formed plans
  391. [2011-11-19 13:15:57] <Guile> ... to turn the mansion into a haunted house populated by the spirits of our dead enemies
  392. [2011-11-19 13:16:36] <Ironybot> Why do you want to fill our house with the remnants of beings which hate us?
  393. [2011-11-19 13:17:19] <SamarontheRun> Border could allow the extension of the mansion to encompass a greater area.. or spell our doom.
  394. [2011-11-19 13:18:30] <Guile> Why does Armas do anything? Because it seemed like a good idea at the time. Or because it was funny.
  395. [2011-11-19 13:20:05] <Guile> but mostly thus: the mansion can sustain spirits pretty much indefinately as I recall. The spirits there could be interrogated or eaten at our leisure, or even be turned into an alarm system/active defense/that landgod thing/soulstuff for item bloodline if we ever learn how
  396. [2011-11-19 13:20:25] <Guile> and because I think I'd rather have the malicious spirits in our mansion than in our eye, with Whaitiri and Amen-blood-monster
  397. [2011-11-19 13:20:44] <HobNobbyBob> Ironybot: I was more addressing the paragraph SUST and the SUST-less commentary that gets done.
  398. [2011-11-19 13:20:56] <HobNobbyBob> If you want to clarify WHAT you are SUSTing, that's totally fine
  399. [2011-11-19 13:21:06] <HobNobbyBob> If you want to add to an existing plan? Also totally fine
  400. [2011-11-19 13:21:35] <Arkeus> crashed :-(
  401. [2011-11-19 13:21:38] <HobNobbyBob> But just commenting on someone's plan, not adding to it or rejecting it, or following a SUST with a multiparagraph 'this is why' both strike me as unnecessary.
  402. [2011-11-19 13:22:16] <Arkeus> <HobNobbyBob> At what point did you come to the conclusion commentary on other posts was required? Certainly you can link and SUST other posts as you deem appropriate-but for plans you are not supporting, there's no need for anything more than that. <= i susted, but i also added that if we MUST see him (which i really don't want), we really should try to get shad-type food for SB
  403. [2011-11-19 13:22:19] <Arkeus> and other stuff
  404. [2011-11-19 13:22:38] <Arkeus> And, yeah, i agree with Ironybot
  405. [2011-11-19 13:23:03] <Arkeus> ah ok
  406. [2011-11-19 13:23:24] <Arkeus> Well, i didn't comment to just 'comment', i susted and also said that IF we do it, we should do it in another way
  407. [2011-11-19 13:23:50] <Arkeus> Sorry about being slow, still in skyrim-mode
  408. [2011-11-19 13:23:53] <Ironybot> Honestly, Bob, I don't know how you manage to shove coherence out of all our suggestions in a timely manner. There is a LOT of suggestion text here.
  409. [2011-11-19 13:24:14] <Guile> keeping the mansion shadowy should do that, Ark. Or finding a way to imbue a certain shadow with an extraordinary amount of nevernever gates
  410. [2011-11-19 13:24:15] <Arkeus> Yeah, that's pretty much guaranteed annoying there
  411. [2011-11-19 13:24:19] <Arkeus> annoyance
  412. [2011-11-19 13:24:47] <Arkeus> Guile: Shadow food that can quickly resplinish SB, same way we get food for us
  413. [2011-11-19 13:25:09] <Ironybot> Although reading through them just looking for SUSTs, it looks like fairly massive swathes of our suggestions get effectively cut out.
  414. [2011-11-19 13:25:19] <Guile> and I repeat - he eats the energy from the tiny gates to the Dark in shadows, right?
  415. [2011-11-19 13:25:25] <HobNobbyBob> that's why updates take me so long
  416. [2011-11-19 13:25:27] <Guile> his food is plentiful, if tiny portions
  417. [2011-11-19 13:25:28] <Arkeus> Slwoly
  418. [2011-11-19 13:25:31] <Arkeus> Every so slowy
  419. [2011-11-19 13:25:38] <Arkeus> He can't regenerates quickly so far
  420. [2011-11-19 13:25:41] <HobNobbyBob> trying to find how to string posts together is... a futzy job.
  421. [2011-11-19 13:25:43] <Guile> ah
  422. [2011-11-19 13:25:47] <HobNobbyBob> Yeah, Imma call it futzy.
  423. [2011-11-19 13:25:55] <HobNobbyBob> It's an appropriate titling of the action.
  424. [2011-11-19 13:25:56] <Arkeus> Yeah, not envying you that pain bob
  425. [2011-11-19 13:25:57] <Guile> well, for that we'd need a stable, large portal to the Dark
  426. [2011-11-19 13:26:03] <Guile> border mmmmmight help with that
  427. [2011-11-19 13:26:22] <Arkeus> Given SB has a cannibal bloodline, why not get him shado-type food instead?
  428. [2011-11-19 13:26:27] <Guile> with our luck we'd end up unleashing shadowpocalypse
  429. [2011-11-19 13:26:36] <Guile> 'shadow-type' food being...?
  430. [2011-11-19 13:26:44] <Arkeus> Shadowbeasts i guess
  431. [2011-11-19 13:26:48] <Arkeus> Lethifold exists?
  432. [2011-11-19 13:27:02] <Guile> Breed him up shadow-cows
  433. [2011-11-19 13:27:14] <Arkeus> ^^;
  434. [2011-11-19 13:27:30] <Arkeus> But, yeah, goblins have their own shadowfiends, so they must know what's good for him
  435. [2011-11-19 13:29:13] <Guile> get him all the nutrition a growing shadow needs
  436. [2011-11-19 13:29:21] <Guile> and he knows everything that they do, now
  437. [2011-11-19 13:30:57] <Ironybot> That is false.
  438. [2011-11-19 13:33:15] <Guile> which premise?
  439. [2011-11-19 13:33:38] <Ironybot> The line "he knows everything that they do, now".
  440. [2011-11-19 13:34:09] <Ironybot> The goblins would never have agreed to that level of instruction. At best, he matches their knowledge within an exceedingly narrow field.
  441. [2011-11-19 13:34:22] <Guile> yeah. with shadow magic
  442. [2011-11-19 13:35:54] <Ironybot> The phrase "shadow magic" is a rather vague one. What does it extend to? I find it likely that it includes, from the goblins' perspective, only pure shadow manipulation skill and very little by way of other applicable knowledge.
  443. [2011-11-19 13:36:10] <Ironybot> Which would likely include things like what would be most nourishing for him.
  444. [2011-11-19 13:36:39] <Ironybot> "other applicable knowledge" would include that, to be clear.
  445. [2011-11-19 13:37:29] <Guile> that would be fair to say
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  447. [2011-11-19 13:43:29] <MrTT> bob, are werewolves considered augmented humans?
  448. [2011-11-19 13:43:41] <MrTT> or something else?
  449. [2011-11-19 13:43:54] <HobNobbyBob> not human, same as vampires
  450. [2011-11-19 13:44:02] <MrTT> aren't vampires undead
  451. [2011-11-19 13:44:14] <MrTT> but werewolves alive
  452. [2011-11-19 13:44:32] <HobNobbyBob> explain how 'not human' has anything at all to do with whether something's alive or dead or undead.
  453. [2011-11-19 13:44:40] <HobNobbyBob> Please, do explain, because I don't see it.
  454. [2011-11-19 13:44:43] <Ironybot> Vampires are beings whose soul is tied to their blood, and who can transmit their condition. I don't think "undead" has anything to do with the essence of their condition.
  455. [2011-11-19 13:44:44] <MrTT> well, you said "same as vampires"
  456. [2011-11-19 13:44:54] <MrTT> And I am thinking quite a few big differences, names
  457. [2011-11-19 13:45:03] <HobNobbyBob> No, I said 'Not human, same as vampires'
  458. [2011-11-19 13:45:05] <MrTT> namely, don't vampires propegate by converting humans
  459. [2011-11-19 13:45:20] <HobNobbyBob> So do Werewolves MrTT
  460. [2011-11-19 13:45:29] <MrTT> are werewolves sterile?
  461. [2011-11-19 13:45:59] <HobNobbyBob> I don't think I ever want to understand how your mind works but no, that's not some preset thing to being a werewolf
  462. [2011-11-19 13:46:02] <HobNobbyBob> Stop for a second here
  463. [2011-11-19 13:46:11] <HobNobbyBob> NOT HUMAN is a huge category
  464. [2011-11-19 13:46:16] <MrTT> true
  465. [2011-11-19 13:46:22] <HobNobbyBob> Werewolves, Vampires and a shit ton of other things are in that
  466. [2011-11-19 13:46:39] <HobNobbyBob> UNDEAD is a seperate, overlapping category
  467. [2011-11-19 13:46:41] <MrTT> I understand that, i segued into more questions a bit clunkily but obviously "not human" can have a variety of things
  468. [2011-11-19 13:47:09] <HobNobbyBob> Right, if this is just 'random, not currently relevant questions' right now
  469. [2011-11-19 13:47:11] <MrTT> the questions i am asking are not necessarily relating or stemming from "what do you mean they are the same as vampires"... I just want to know and asking regardless
  470. [2011-11-19 13:47:14] <HobNobbyBob> I got an update to write
  471. [2011-11-19 13:47:32] <MrTT> its semi relevant. I want to know if werewolfism is an actual curse
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  473. [2011-11-19 13:47:50] <MrTT> because the classic werewolf loses control of their mind and kills indiscriminately, including loved ones
  474. [2011-11-19 13:47:58] <MrTT> and only turns on the full moon
  475. [2011-11-19 13:48:00] <HobNobbyBob> No it's not relevant now. You are not near a werewolf, you have not been bitten, you are not planning to interact with a werewolf next post.
  476. [2011-11-19 13:48:04] <MrTT> but lammy turns at will and kills his enemies
  477. [2011-11-19 13:48:10] <HobNobbyBob> It's an INTERESTING question maybe
  478. [2011-11-19 13:48:14] <HobNobbyBob> but not currently RELEVANT
  479. [2011-11-19 13:48:27] <MrTT> not immediately relevant
  480. [2011-11-19 13:48:37] <MrTT> but will be relevant in the future
  481. [2011-11-19 13:48:46] <MrTT> but ok, i will let you get back to writing that update
  482. [2011-11-19 13:48:54] <HobNobbyBob> Do you not read? 'relevant NOW' and 'CURRENTLY relevant'
  483. [2011-11-19 13:49:01] <SamarontheRun> MrTT, Lammy is a Loup Garou, a subset of normal werewolves
  484. [2011-11-19 13:49:07] <HobNobbyBob> I'm already saying 'hey, if it isn't a current issue, don't bother me'
  485. [2011-11-19 13:49:20] <HobNobbyBob> and your arguing semantics
  486. [2011-11-19 13:50:03] <Arkeus> Yay, my kahjiit arrived at riverwood
  487. [2011-11-19 13:50:11] <Arkeus> Level five, and cleared that mine on the way
  488. [2011-11-19 13:50:24] <Arkeus> Still no armor, as i took the imperial route and didn't want to wear light armors
  489. [2011-11-19 13:52:07] <MrTT> i didn't argue semantics I conceded the point with slightly different spelling
  490. [2011-11-19 13:52:22] <HobNobbyBob> Okay MrTT
  491. [2011-11-19 13:53:16] <HobNobbyBob> Said multiple times 'hey writing a post' and 'hey, only relevant questions' and look how long you've still been talking with me after I expressed that interest. I have problems with being distracted, and you aren't helping. Keep it up and I'll put you on ignore so I can actually get some writing done.
  492. [2011-11-19 13:53:21] <HobNobbyBob> Ball's in your court dude.
  493. [2011-11-19 13:54:19] <MrTT> I was AFK when you said it and didn't see you say so. And as soon as you repeated it I conceded the point and said the questions can wait
  494. [2011-11-19 13:55:30] <MrTT> seriously give me some benefit of the doubt here
  495. [2011-11-19 13:57:58] <HobNobbyBob> Arkeus what is 'gruint lining'
  496. [2011-11-19 13:58:07] <HobNobbyBob> I tried google search and was unsuccessful.
  497. [2011-11-19 13:58:11] <HobNobbyBob> It's in your suggestion
  498. [2011-11-19 13:59:52] <Ironybot> Dammit, did the votes for looking ridiculous win over the votes for looking normal?
  499. [2011-11-19 14:00:03] <Ironybot> Of course they did. Everyone always wants to look ridiculous.
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  503. [2011-11-19 14:09:57] <Guile> I gave two wildly different suggestions there; white Italian suit or ridiculous hakama get-up
  504. [2011-11-19 14:11:56] <Guile> actually now that Im thinking of it, Ito would probably think the hakama was us making fun of him, not honoring him. Lil late to axe it now, though
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  507. [2011-11-19 14:13:06] <Ironybot> We might be able to pull off the suit, but suggesting that Armas try for any kind of ethnic wear is just absurd.
  508. [2011-11-19 14:13:16] <Ironybot> It would never come off as anything but mocking.
  509. [2011-11-19 14:13:55] <TMIoverload> This is Armas. Everything is mocking
  510. [2011-11-19 14:14:33] <TMIoverload> I mean, this is the follow-up to wearing fur to meet a werewolf
  511. [2011-11-19 14:15:15] <Guile> we actually have a semi-respectful relationship with ito though
  512. [2011-11-19 14:15:21] <Guile> we tweak his nose, but we're spectful about it
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  514. [2011-11-19 14:22:46] <Arkeus> HobNobbyBob: yeah, that was a horrible spellignerror
  515. [2011-11-19 14:22:49] <Arkeus> Green lining
  516. [2011-11-19 14:23:02] <Arkeus> Ironybot: nah, the votes for looking normal won
  517. [2011-11-19 14:23:03] <Arkeus> iirc
  518. [2011-11-19 14:23:14] <Arkeus> spelling error, arghhh
  519. [2011-11-19 14:23:22] <Wutenheimer> so, what masks have you guys found and where did you find them?
  520. [2011-11-19 14:23:51] <Arkeus> <TMIoverload> I mean, this is the follow-up to wearing fur to meet a werewolf <= urgh
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  522. [2011-11-19 14:27:38] <SamarontheRun> ?gfh
  523. [2011-11-19 14:27:39] <Classhole> http://tgchan.org/kusaba/quest/res/360354+50.html
  524. [2011-11-19 14:30:55] <TMIoverload> Wutenheimer, you talking about Skyrim? the Dragon Priest masks are mainly gotten from the area the Greybeards tell you to go to. There's also one in the main story, and one from the first part of the College of Winterhold mage guild quest
  525. [2011-11-19 14:31:16] <Wutenheimer> fuckin greybeards
  526. [2011-11-19 14:31:50] <Arkeus> Fuck them
  527. [2011-11-19 14:31:54] <Arkeus> STEAL THEM
  528. [2011-11-19 14:31:54] <Wutenheimer> yeah i got 4 of them so far, havent even visited the greybeards yet
  529. [2011-11-19 14:31:58] <Arkeus> THEY MUST BE NAKED
  530. [2011-11-19 14:31:58] <TMIoverload> You can find the places on your own, but asking the Greybears where the words are is the quick and easy way
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  532. [2011-11-19 14:32:15] <Arkeus> I have no idea why i like the ida of pickpocketign everyone naked so much
  533. [2011-11-19 14:32:36] <Arkeus> urgh
  534. [2011-11-19 14:32:42] <Arkeus> idea, pickpocketing
  535. [2011-11-19 14:33:28] <AlratanMobile> Hi guys
  536. [2011-11-19 14:33:31] <AlratanMobile> Hi Bob
  537. [2011-11-19 14:33:33] <SamarontheRun> are the masks good?
  538. [2011-11-19 14:33:47] <Arkeus> iirc, you can ahve hood+mask
  539. [2011-11-19 14:33:55] <TMIoverload> Actually, sorry, there are two masks from the College of Winterhold I think. One is from the last part of that quest chain
  540. [2011-11-19 14:34:25] <TMIoverload> The masks are decent, though you can eventually enchant better stuff if you fuck with Alchemy/Smithing/Enchanting
  541. [2011-11-19 14:35:03] <Guile> reminds me of the Saturday Morning Breakfast Cereal bit where the greatest thief in the world steals a guy so quickly and stealthily his suit keeps walking
  542. [2011-11-19 14:37:28] <Arkeus> Guile: yep
  543. [2011-11-19 14:37:48] <Ironybot> I do believe that Bob has said we'll meet the Guns for Hire equivalent of that guy one day.
  544. [2011-11-19 14:38:02] <Arkeus> Being able to steal enemies' midfight is funny, but being able to steal EVERYONE naked is funnier
  545. [2011-11-19 14:38:12] <Arkeus> Ironybot: i want Armas to be that guy, honestly
  546. [2011-11-19 14:40:07] <Ironybot> It will take a lot more work to make that happen.
  547. [2011-11-19 14:40:17] <Guile> I... dont know what this means http://www.smbc-comics.com/index.php?db=comics&id=2433#comic
  548. [2011-11-19 14:41:12] <Arkeus> Guile: huh?
  549. [2011-11-19 14:41:18] <Arkeus> what's confusing you?
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  551. [2011-11-19 14:42:16] <Guile> why is the dad okay with pretend cannibalism and not pretend princesshood?
  552. [2011-11-19 14:42:31] <Arkeus> Because she is being independant
  553. [2011-11-19 14:42:35] <Arkeus> 'The Throne i mine'
  554. [2011-11-19 14:42:51] <Arkeus> Basically, she marry the prince so she can kill him and get the throne
  555. [2011-11-19 14:42:54] <Arkeus> Go-Getter
  556. [2011-11-19 14:45:40] <Arkeus> http://www.smbc-comics.com/index.php?db=comics&id=2432#comic
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  558. [2011-11-19 14:47:46] <Arkeus> hey Grail
  559. [2011-11-19 14:47:58] * Arkeus casts Sacrilege on Grail
  560. [2011-11-19 14:48:12] <Arkeus> Making sure you aren't being sneakily Holy
  561. [2011-11-19 14:49:23] <Guile> oh, okay. I was worried the dad was Armas
  562. [2011-11-19 14:49:35] <Arkeus> lol
  563. [2011-11-19 14:51:26] <Arkeus> http://www.smbc-comics.com/index.php?db=comics&id=2406#comic ahahahha
  564. [2011-11-19 14:53:13] <Arkeus> http://www.smbc-comics.com/index.php?db=comics&id=2402#comic i did that two days ago
  565. [2011-11-19 14:53:32] <Guile> can Armas say this sometime? I dont really care to whom http://www.smbc-comics.com/index.php?db=comics&id=2428#comic
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  567. [2011-11-19 14:54:41] <Ironybot> Unfortunately, Armas is destined to never get any and remember it.
  568. [2011-11-19 14:57:28] <Guile> then he must have sex and forget it as many times as possible - as a consolation prize
  569. [2011-11-19 14:58:08] <Guile> Next time we meet Doony, he tells us we were energetic, but a little fragile for his tastes. We wonder what he means.
  570. [2011-11-19 14:58:58] <Arkeus> http://www.smbc-comics.com/index.php?db=comics&id=2392#comic <= worth getting insane for
  571. [2011-11-19 14:59:47] <Guile> so true. we approach facial hair with the same grim determination Lammy does his beserker drugs
  572. [2011-11-19 15:02:10] <Wutenheimer> >we approach facial hair with the same grim determination Lammy does his beserker drugs
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  574. [2011-11-19 15:02:27] <Wutenheimer> stuff it inside us at every opportunity like a good little addict?
  575. [2011-11-19 15:02:41] <Guile> ... that works, I guess
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  577. [2011-11-19 15:06:27] <HobNobbyBob> Well, please note Armas at no point EVER mentioned shaving on his trip.
  578. [2011-11-19 15:06:45] <HobNobbyBob> In fact, all the Valkonen men have full beards
  579. [2011-11-19 15:06:52] <HobNobbyBob> which suggests they would not have a razor
  580. [2011-11-19 15:06:55] <HobNobbyBob> and since Armas did not pack one
  581. [2011-11-19 15:06:57] <HobNobbyBob> BEARD
  582. [2011-11-19 15:07:04] <Arkeus> YESSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSS
  583. [2011-11-19 15:07:05] <Arkeus> Ahem
  584. [2011-11-19 15:07:09] <Arkeus> <_<
  585. [2011-11-19 15:07:30] <Arkeus> I was talking last night about the horrible dilemn in Arms life
  586. [2011-11-19 15:07:54] <Arkeus> Get awesome Beard Via Amen and risk him killing us, or Get Awesome Beard via getting Insae
  587. [2011-11-19 15:07:59] <Arkeus> What to do, what to do...
  588. [2011-11-19 15:08:37] <SamarontheRun> does SB have a shadowbeard?
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  590. [2011-11-19 15:10:16] <Ironybot> I thought that Armas' hair no longer grew, actually, including his facial hair.
  591. [2011-11-19 15:10:42] <Ironybot> Like the rest of him, my impression was that his hair growth was now entirely dependent upon what he believes his proper form to be.
  592. [2011-11-19 15:11:09] <Ironybot> So it regenerates into that form and stays there. Unless his mental image of himself has a beard in it, why would he grow one?
  593. [2011-11-19 15:12:02] <Arkeus> Ironybot: because he believes that growing a beard is part of being human
  594. [2011-11-19 15:12:08] <Ironybot> And certainly, his hair all just burned off at the Triad encounter, along with his skin, and regrew into whatever his image of himself dictates that it should look like when he regenerated it.
  595. [2011-11-19 15:12:16] <Arkeus> and he hasn't "fixated" a special for for hsi beard/lack of one
  596. [2011-11-19 15:12:36] <Arkeus> So if he regeerated his hair, it's back to how it was a few minutes before hat
  597. [2011-11-19 15:12:37] <Arkeus> that
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  600. [2011-11-19 15:13:20] <Ironybot> Only if his mental image of how his hair should look agreed with how it looked a few minutes before. I doubt his self-image pictures himself with a month or so of growth.
  601. [2011-11-19 15:13:42] <HobNobbyBob> FFFF getting closer....
  602. [2011-11-19 15:14:07] <Fargist_The_Fifth> Closer to what?
  603. [2011-11-19 15:14:11] <Guile> unless he alters his self-image with M7, but then we're getting into crazy-pants territory
  604. [2011-11-19 15:14:11] <Fargist_The_Fifth> Sobriety?
  605. [2011-11-19 15:14:14] <HobNobbyBob> You dick
  606. [2011-11-19 15:14:17] <HobNobbyBob> let's say that
  607. [2011-11-19 15:14:35] <HobNobbyBob> rather than what the answer is all those other times, which is 'finished update'
  608. [2011-11-19 15:15:01] <Arkeus> Ironybot: as i said, maybe his self-image inclue a bear that grows
  609. [2011-11-19 15:15:16] <Arkeus> So regenerating grew it back to what ti was when he last saw himself
  610. [2011-11-19 15:15:28] <Arkeus> Of course, all this is speculation
  611. [2011-11-19 15:15:32] <HobNobbyBob> Ironybot: It's because funnily enough, Armas doesn't HAVE a portion of his mental image that addresses facial hair
  612. [2011-11-19 15:15:54] <HobNobbyBob> by now he's gotten used to a relatively short hair cut because he learned that was pragmatic and has been sporting such for quite a while.
  613. [2011-11-19 15:16:03] <HobNobbyBob> But in the service sometimes he had a beard, sometimes not
  614. [2011-11-19 15:16:12] <HobNobbyBob> sometimes a big bushy one, sometimes not.
  615. [2011-11-19 15:16:20] <HobNobbyBob> And because it bounced around all the time
  616. [2011-11-19 15:16:38] <HobNobbyBob> he never really self identified a hair state for his jaw that he considers a 'norm'.
  617. [2011-11-19 15:16:41] <Guile> his self-image including a bear is awesome
  618. [2011-11-19 15:16:54] <Arkeus> Makes sense
  619. [2011-11-19 15:16:56] <Ironybot> So... the rest of his hair doesn't grow past a specific level, but his facial hair does?
  620. [2011-11-19 15:17:03] <HobNobbyBob> That is correct
  621. [2011-11-19 15:17:15] <HobNobbyBob> if there was hair on his body he was not aware of, in theory it could grow to
  622. [2011-11-19 15:17:27] <HobNobbyBob> like... I don't know, a hairy mole on his ass he somehow never noticed
  623. [2011-11-19 15:17:32] <Guile> Wish I'd known about Einrik's beard before, I drew him clean-shaven
  624. [2011-11-19 15:17:33] <HobNobbyBob> IT could keep growing and growing
  625. [2011-11-19 15:17:55] <Ironybot> Extending that concept.... parts of Armas' body that he's not aware of can grow and change, but only as long as he doesn't know about them and fix in his mind what they should be.
  626. [2011-11-19 15:17:57] <HobNobbyBob> Well his beard's patchy and spotty and sparse because of how much of his jaw/cheeks/neck are COVERED in scars.
  627. [2011-11-19 15:18:09] <HobNobbyBob> That's about right Ironybot
  628. [2011-11-19 15:18:11] <Ironybot> Does that mean that if he becomes keenly aware that he does not have cancer, he will no longer be able to get it?
  629. [2011-11-19 15:18:30] <Guile> Armas: NEVER GO TO THE DOCTOR AGAIN
  630. [2011-11-19 15:18:42] <Ironybot> It is, after all, his body growing in an anomalous way that he doesn't realize until it's too late.
  631. [2011-11-19 15:19:00] <Arkeus> The problem is about defining Cancer though
  632. [2011-11-19 15:19:08] <HobNobbyBob> No, because he's got a regnerative ability which puts him at risk for magically active cancer any time he has a risk of cancer, and it overrides the 'restore to X state'
  633. [2011-11-19 15:19:13] <Arkeus> I guess that if Armas read lots of medical books, he could do that
  634. [2011-11-19 15:19:25] <Arkeus> mmh ok
  635. [2011-11-19 15:19:27] <Ironybot> Damn. Well, it was worth a shot.
  636. [2011-11-19 15:19:31] <HobNobbyBob> If his recovery was from some external source, then yes that could work
  637. [2011-11-19 15:19:37] <HobNobbyBob> but since his regeneration is internal, no dice.
  638. [2011-11-19 15:19:59] <Arkeus> Bob, we were - ah damn, still updating
  639. [2011-11-19 15:20:03] <Arkeus> will ask questions later
  640. [2011-11-19 15:20:07] <Guile> good man
  641. [2011-11-19 15:21:35] <Ironybot> It occurs to me that if Armas becomes narcissistic, his body will actually grow to be as attractive as he thinks it is.
  642. [2011-11-19 15:24:07] <Arkeus> Ironybot: Again, i think he would have to know what is 'attractive'
  643. [2011-11-19 15:26:13] <Guile> you mean he's NOT, Irony?
  644. [2011-11-19 15:28:16] <Ironybot> Narcissistic, or attractive?
  645. [2011-11-19 15:33:06] <Guile> First one, then the other
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  647. [2011-11-19 15:35:04] <Guile> Random thought: either TMI works at the electronics factory right next to me, or that man is a dirty liar
  648. [2011-11-19 15:35:52] <Arkeus> oh?
  649. [2011-11-19 15:38:55] <ManOfTroy> Wut?
  650. [2011-11-19 15:39:34] <Arkeus> Not Wut, TMI
  651. [2011-11-19 15:39:35] <Arkeus> :p
  652. [2011-11-19 15:39:44] <AlratanMobile> I do want to experiment with self-image manipulation
  653. [2011-11-19 15:40:07] <AlratanMobile> To counteract the inhuman leanness Armas is developing
  654. [2011-11-19 15:40:50] <Ironybot> ...inhuman leanness?
  655. [2011-11-19 15:41:24] <AlratanMobile> Yeah, Armas has no body fat at all
  656. [2011-11-19 15:41:31] <mib_04yhkt> Minimal body fat
  657. [2011-11-19 15:41:44] <mib_04yhkt> His body doesn't gain any either
  658. [2011-11-19 15:42:20] <Arkeus> That's not really a bad thing
  659. [2011-11-19 15:42:24] <Ironybot> Maybe we should just eat more.
  660. [2011-11-19 15:42:29] <Arkeus> And, yes
  661. [2011-11-19 15:42:32] <Arkeus> we need to eat more
  662. [2011-11-19 15:42:35] <mib_04yhkt> But considering the majority of it was lost during our training session with the goblins and we talked with Camella immediately afterwards I don't view this as a problem
  663. [2011-11-19 15:42:41] <mib_04yhkt> Eh eating more won't fix it
  664. [2011-11-19 15:42:46] <Fargist_The_Fifth> Whoa, so we don't need to get haircuts anymore
  665. [2011-11-19 15:42:50] <mib_04yhkt> Radically altered anatomy.
  666. [2011-11-19 15:42:55] <Arkeus> Ah, cool
  667. [2011-11-19 15:43:19] <Ironybot> Eating more might fix it. If we eat a hundred, hundred fifty pounds of food a day..
  668. [2011-11-19 15:43:33] <mib_04yhkt> Don't know whether or not we retain the necessary amount of body fat for certain bodily functions
  669. [2011-11-19 15:43:45] <AlratanMobile> Why not do that?
  670. [2011-11-19 15:44:35] <TMIoverload> Guile, do you mean the guy who work their? Because I don't have a job. I'm still getting checks for being stabbed
  671. [2011-11-19 15:44:57] <Arkeus> btw, bob made it clear that too-long post that aren't revelant to what we are doing and contradicting each other do make hsi update planning much longer
  672. [2011-11-19 15:45:04] <Arkeus> Maybe we should try to stick to the point more
  673. [2011-11-19 15:45:20] <AlratanMobile> We should try to get 100 pounds of regenerator hearts per day
  674. [2011-11-19 15:45:40] <Arkeus> I don't think onyl regenerator hearts are good, honestly
  675. [2011-11-19 15:45:52] <AlratanMobile> Fortunate then, that everything I said was relevant to our immediate priorities for what we need to do today...
  676. [2011-11-19 15:46:04] <Arkeus> <mib_04yhkt> Don't know whether or not we retain the necessary amount of body fat for certain bodily functions <= given our body is being modified to achive peak and beyond peak performance, i doubt it
  677. [2011-11-19 15:47:05] <AlratanMobile> Bob, can you confirm that Armas has superhuman physical abilities
  678. [2011-11-19 15:47:08] <mib_04yhkt> Could be, but I know we've retained at least enough body fat that our face wasn't recognizably gaunt when talking with Camella.
  679. [2011-11-19 15:47:31] <mib_04yhkt> So either that wasn't burned or we're keeping some.
  680. [2011-11-19 15:48:25] <Arkeus> Or we are creating just enough for functionning as well as we can
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  682. [2011-11-19 15:49:16] <Guile> In this particular case, we all wanted to write dialogue with Ito, Camella and/or Hafaz, so its kinda expected they'd be huge
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  684. [2011-11-19 15:50:21] <Arkeus> Guile: Yes, but a lot of different dialog is contradictory, so it makes update planning really long.
  685. [2011-11-19 15:50:31] <Ironybot> A huge amount of the dialogue suggestions got SUST'd.
  686. [2011-11-19 15:50:55] <Guile> yea Ark, and yes to you too irony. I just dont see a way to fix it
  687. [2011-11-19 15:51:02] <Arkeus> It was a blanket SUST however. Unsure how blanket SUST work
  688. [2011-11-19 15:51:15] <mib_04yhkt> Personally some people shouldn't write dialogue for Armas
  689. [2011-11-19 15:51:19] <Arkeus> I guess cooperating here more
  690. [2011-11-19 15:51:27] <mib_04yhkt> They don't get it to sound very in character
  691. [2011-11-19 15:51:42] <mib_04yhkt> Sometimes it comes off oddly formal
  692. [2011-11-19 15:51:43] <Arkeus> So that we only have a one or two peopel typing dialogs
  693. [2011-11-19 15:51:47] <Arkeus> and the rest just fine-tune things
  694. [2011-11-19 15:52:15] <Ironybot> Armas' dialogue ends up being kind of eclectic in speech pattern, yes.
  695. [2011-11-19 15:52:28] <Guile> I have a problem with that sometimes. People I pretend to talk as tend to talk like a highly literate college grad. Which Armas is... not.
  696. [2011-11-19 15:52:34] <Arkeus> BUTTZ's big ass dialog was very formal (and he wanted it to be), but it was also very long and a bit dull. I honestly think leaving Armas to think the dialog for himself with general direction would be better in those cases
  697. [2011-11-19 15:52:57] <Arkeus> Well, Armas i very much quick-tongued
  698. [2011-11-19 15:52:58] <Ironybot> That said, I think we can chalk that up in-character to a combination of his growing attempts to influence his speech patterns with goblinic-style precision and also his insanity.
  699. [2011-11-19 15:53:01] <Arkeus> Just not... formal
  700. [2011-11-19 15:53:05] <Guile> but sometimes bob likes us writing dialogue. guess we just need to try and keep it pithy
  701. [2011-11-19 15:53:05] <A_Hungry_Shark> But us writing the dialogue give more xp, I think
  702. [2011-11-19 15:53:20] <Guile> the insanity covers a lot
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  704. [2011-11-19 15:53:22] <Arkeus> Yes
  705. [2011-11-19 15:53:42] <BUTTZ> Pretty much every time M7 improved it was one of us writing a fat chunk of a dialogue
  706. [2011-11-19 15:53:44] <Arkeus> What i was saying is, give dialog for the important bits, and general directive for the rests
  707. [2011-11-19 15:53:57] <Arkeus> ALSO, i know some of us (me included sometimes) aren't so good with dialog
  708. [2011-11-19 15:53:57] <mib_04yhkt> Hm?
  709. [2011-11-19 15:54:02] <Arkeus> So it wouldn't really help
  710. [2011-11-19 15:54:08] <mib_04yhkt> The initial upgrades were purely me and TMI planning out manipulations
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  712. [2011-11-19 15:54:21] <AlratanMobile> SB talks like a college grad more than Armas
  713. [2011-11-19 15:54:23] <Arkeus> Later upgrades weren't really dialogs either
  714. [2011-11-19 15:54:28] <Arkeus> but palnning impressive stuff
  715. [2011-11-19 15:54:31] <Ironybot> I didn't give specifics for what to say to Camella, not because I didn't want to, but because I thought it would be gigantic and need to be so reactive to what she said and how she looked at a given time that writing up specific lines would be a waste.
  716. [2011-11-19 15:54:34] <Arkeus> like the splinter intent
  717. [2011-11-19 15:54:46] <Guile> probably because when SB speaks up, its about stuff he knows about. anyway, mental traits are all well and good, but Armas needs more of this http://i384.photobucket.com/albums/oo289/dyslexicfaser/ArmasBeam3.jpg
  718. [2011-11-19 15:54:52] <mib_04yhkt> But yes dialogue is preferable sometimes, particularly in delicate situations.
  719. [2011-11-19 15:55:15] <Arkeus> And Haggling, too
  720. [2011-11-19 15:55:24] <A_Hungry_Shark> >last panel
  721. [2011-11-19 15:55:25] <Arkeus> OR when we are trying to manipulate someone
  722. [2011-11-19 15:55:26] <A_Hungry_Shark> Oh god I lol'd
  723. [2011-11-19 15:55:36] <mib_04yhkt> Read delicate situations
  724. [2011-11-19 15:55:38] <Arkeus> nice one Guile
  725. [2011-11-19 15:55:56] <Guile> haggling's hard to do with only one half of the convo, though
  726. [2011-11-19 15:56:08] <Guile> you can give Armas points to try and hit, but thats about all
  727. [2011-11-19 15:56:13] <Arkeus> Yeah, for haggling it's just 'argument' you can give
  728. [2011-11-19 15:56:29] <Arkeus> Also, we never really defined how much to push
  729. [2011-11-19 15:56:35] <Arkeus> We just leave Armas be on that
  730. [2011-11-19 15:56:45] <Arkeus> Forcing Armas to push/not-push should be something we play with
  731. [2011-11-19 15:57:38] <Guile> Won't Take No means Armas pushes everything. The bounds of politeness, of good taste...
  732. [2011-11-19 15:58:32] <Ironybot> Honestly, the line "won't take no" makes me think that he should be busily trying to push his way into the ladies' pants, yet somehow that doesn't seem to happen.
  733. [2011-11-19 15:58:58] <Guile> Well, if you want it to, and write up the dialogue... it would probably mutate into that...
  734. [2011-11-19 15:59:25] <Guile> although really, Armas is creepy enough.
  735. [2011-11-19 15:59:25] <AlratanMobile> We need to link out dialogue to Won't take No and Word Like Gold
  736. [2011-11-19 15:59:45] <Ironybot> Armas is increasingly getting a powerset ideal for the most horrifying stalker ex-boyfriend ever.
  737. [2011-11-19 16:00:20] <Arkeus> lol
  738. [2011-11-19 16:03:15] <Wutenheimer> bob, new sunken rock
  739. [2011-11-19 16:03:20] <Wutenheimer> http://www.mangachapter.net/3089/sun-ken-rock/chapter-87-9.html datface
  740. [2011-11-19 16:04:01] <Wutenheimer> actually come to think of it, that's my face quite often
  741. [2011-11-19 16:04:18] <Arkeus> heh, bob read that?
  742. [2011-11-19 16:05:17] <HobNobbyBob> Fuck yeah I read Sun Ken rock
  743. [2011-11-19 16:05:34] <HobNobbyBob> also someone nominate a song that's a good BGM for being at Ito's Gym
  744. [2011-11-19 16:05:35] <HobNobbyBob> GO
  745. [2011-11-19 16:05:38] <Arkeus> I think the english version is translated from french volumes
  746. [2011-11-19 16:06:14] <Wutenheimer> much easier then translating from korean or japanese or whatever the original is
  747. [2011-11-19 16:06:20] <Arkeus> yeah
  748. [2011-11-19 16:06:22] <Arkeus> Korean
  749. [2011-11-19 16:06:25] <HobNobbyBob> Man, Sun Ken Rock's fucking amazing. If someone made Sun Ken Rock and HSD Kenichi fuck and have a mangababby, I'd read it long past when my eyes started bleeding.
  750. [2011-11-19 16:06:28] <Arkeus> Damn, music music
  751. [2011-11-19 16:06:31] <Wutenheimer> similar languages and same alphabet
  752. [2011-11-19 16:06:37] <TMIoverload> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=btPJPFnesV4
  753. [2011-11-19 16:06:38] <Classhole> TMIoverload: Survivor - Eye Of The Tiger - length 4m 11s - rated 4.96/5.0 (33053) - 9847917 views - SurvivorVEVO on 2009.11.14
  754. [2011-11-19 16:06:44] * A_Hungry_Shark snickers
  755. [2011-11-19 16:06:45] <Arkeus> Bob tried Beelzebub? not the same thign at all, but quite lulzy too
  756. [2011-11-19 16:07:37] <TMIoverload> Only proper song for a Gym
  757. [2011-11-19 16:07:46] <Arkeus> indeed
  758. [2011-11-19 16:07:47] <HobNobbyBob> I liked Beelzebub more before-not sure if that's because it changed, or I hadn't picked up on what it was supposed to be.
  759. [2011-11-19 16:07:49] <Wutenheimer> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D5KqEQvgYyk if we stop by the bar on the way over...
  760. [2011-11-19 16:07:50] <Classhole> Wutenheimer: Dropkick Murphys-Drink and Fight - length 1m 56s - rated 4.91/5.0 (1732) - 771994 views - TheIrishProductions on 2009.05.30
  761. [2011-11-19 16:07:50] <HobNobbyBob> Also co
  762. [2011-11-19 16:08:09] <Arkeus> Beelzebub sometimes try to pretend it's a shonen
  763. [2011-11-19 16:08:15] <Arkeus> but it always go back to its lulz roots
  764. [2011-11-19 16:08:26] <TMIoverload> Or, since this is Armas, maybe http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Nbq08-_UhUU&feature=related
  765. [2011-11-19 16:08:27] <Classhole> TMIoverload: Weird Al - Rye Or The Kaiser - length 3m 36s - rated 4.81/5.0 (84) - 37792 views - 195vader on 2009.03.21
  766. [2011-11-19 16:09:50] <Arkeus> I stopped reading sun-ken-rock early, iirc
  767. [2011-11-19 16:09:54] <Arkeus> Like, volume 10 or so
  768. [2011-11-19 16:10:17] <Arkeus> Because reading it in libraries was awkward
  769. [2011-11-19 16:10:36] <TMIoverload> We need to get back to trying to be a Nightmare Chef. Coming back from the dead is key for any proper Slasher
  770. [2011-11-19 16:11:13] <Guile> http://www.wimp.com/guiledancer/
  771. [2011-11-19 16:11:17] <Ironybot> If we're going to Nightmare Chef, then we definitely need the Lurk bloodline. Reconfigure our soul to be so horrifying that others shit themselves upon seeing us.
  772. [2011-11-19 16:11:55] <HobNobbyBob> Quest decided again to reject all music.
  773. [2011-11-19 16:11:56] <HobNobbyBob> Fun
  774. [2011-11-19 16:12:00] <Guile> wait, no, this: http://www.wimp.com/trainingbars/
  775. [2011-11-19 16:12:03] <Arkeus> :-(
  776. [2011-11-19 16:12:35] <Arkeus> Well, update anyway
  777. [2011-11-19 16:12:36] <Arkeus> reading
  778. [2011-11-19 16:12:37] <Guile> oh yeah, you can only do youtube or google links in quest anyway
  779. [2011-11-19 16:12:39] <A_Hungry_Shark> Whoa update
  780. [2011-11-19 16:12:48] <HobNobbyBob> Yes update
  781. [2011-11-19 16:12:50] <Guile> who is this shark, and why is he so hungry?
  782. [2011-11-19 16:12:52] <HobNobbyBob> seven pages of it
  783. [2011-11-19 16:13:35] <HobNobbyBob> This was the song I wanted to link http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YdTo6FGUvHA
  784. [2011-11-19 16:13:35] <Classhole> HobNobbyBob: The Budos Band "Unbroken, Unshaven" - length 2m 53s - rated 4.99/5.0 (320) - 77001 views - DaptoneRecords on 2010.06.21
  785. [2011-11-19 16:13:38] <HobNobbyBob> I am sad I could not
  786. [2011-11-19 16:14:30] <Ironybot> "This one cannot create or alter objects/machinery that directly manipulates wind, resonant frequencies, the internet, super cooled fluids, molten metal and/or living flora". Man, I can see SO many hilarious stories there.
  787. [2011-11-19 16:14:48] <Ironybot> Hilarious in the sense of people dying.
  788. [2011-11-19 16:14:51] <AlratanMobile> Bob:
  789. [2011-11-19 16:15:06] <AlratanMobile> To answer your question
  790. [2011-11-19 16:15:09] <AlratanMobile> All of them
  791. [2011-11-19 16:15:15] <BUTTZ> Hahaha they let Amen on the internet
  792. [2011-11-19 16:15:36] <AlratanMobile> We had no deadline or agreed time to meet Camella and Ito
  793. [2011-11-19 16:16:02] <Guile> this would almost have to be Smets, since the internet has only been around since, what, the late 80's, and then in crude form for most of the 90s?
  794. [2011-11-19 16:16:34] <Wutenheimer> betcha amen just fucked around with wikipedia
  795. [2011-11-19 16:16:37] <A_Hungry_Shark> Amen on the Internet...
  796. [2011-11-19 16:16:43] <A_Hungry_Shark> OH GOD
  797. [2011-11-19 16:16:51] <HobNobbyBob> Amen is Moot
  798. [2011-11-19 16:16:52] <Wutenheimer> and so they banned the ip from ever editing again
  799. [2011-11-19 16:16:53] <HobNobbyBob> let's go with that
  800. [2011-11-19 16:17:04] <HobNobbyBob> Yeah, I am TOTALLY not being sarcastic and bullshitting
  801. [2011-11-19 16:17:07] <HobNobbyBob> Amen is Moot
  802. [2011-11-19 16:17:19] <HobNobbyBob> So yeah, Amen made 4chan, why not.
  803. [2011-11-19 16:17:20] <HobNobbyBob> Why not.
  804. [2011-11-19 16:17:25] <A_Hungry_Shark> Great, now me sarcasm-detector, which is pretty shitty already, is now fried.
  805. [2011-11-19 16:17:28] <A_Hungry_Shark> my*
  806. [2011-11-19 16:17:35] <Ironybot> Of course he made 4chan! It's an "internet hate machine", right?
  807. [2011-11-19 16:17:42] <Guile> Amen and Long Wang must NEVER MEET
  808. [2011-11-19 16:17:43] <Ironybot> Amen<->hate.
  809. [2011-11-19 16:17:48] <HobNobbyBob> should have kept it as 'me' for pirate speak
  810. [2011-11-19 16:18:10] <Guile> or scottish
  811. [2011-11-19 16:18:16] <Arkeus> bob: how the hell did Amen take the soul out of our seal eye? did he even do that?
  812. [2011-11-19 16:19:02] <HobNobbyBob> Remember how a suffiicently massive soul is damn near impossible to percieve to souls far enough below it? Same thing applies to magic workings in your own field
  813. [2011-11-19 16:19:04] <Arkeus> I COULD go for something muted, conventional, inconspicuous andhahaha that's funny. <= lol
  814. [2011-11-19 16:19:18] <HobNobbyBob> Despite it not even being his forte, Amen is so far above you in Soul Stuff you could not percieve it.
  815. [2011-11-19 16:19:37] <Arkeus> Yes, but i thought our seal-eyed was safe from him
  816. [2011-11-19 16:20:38] <HobNobbyBob> It is. but you gave him permission to enter and perform a specific task. He's pissed he couldn't do OTHER stuff in there, like check what actually did happen in there with the Sisuthros blood, but what can a being made of coalesced hate slaved to a troll's will do?
  817. [2011-11-19 16:20:46] <Ironybot> Did we seriously use the line "could you do something with the Reaper charms?" to Amen?
  818. [2011-11-19 16:20:49] <Ironybot> What the hell is wrong with us?
  819. [2011-11-19 16:20:56] <HobNobbyBob> Someone wrote just that
  820. [2011-11-19 16:20:58] <HobNobbyBob> and by someone
  821. [2011-11-19 16:20:59] <AlratanMobile> Shit, we told Camella everything
  822. [2011-11-19 16:21:04] <HobNobbyBob> I mean Arkeus
  823. [2011-11-19 16:21:11] <AlratanMobile> Why the hell did we do that
  824. [2011-11-19 16:21:24] <Arkeus> HobNobbyBob: what?
  825. [2011-11-19 16:21:25] <AlratanMobile> I don't want to have to kill her
  826. [2011-11-19 16:21:28] <Arkeus> no, iddin't write that
  827. [2011-11-19 16:21:30] <A_Hungry_Shark> MARKKU'S FILE IS IN THERE?!
  828. [2011-11-19 16:21:37] <A_Hungry_Shark> Well, was.
  829. [2011-11-19 16:21:51] <Arkeus> Where did i write 'can yo udo something with the reaper's charm'?
  830. [2011-11-19 16:21:52] <HobNobbyBob> AlratanMobile: Because more people for it than explicitly against it.
  831. [2011-11-19 16:22:24] <AlratanMobile> Bob, there was one vote fr and one against
  832. [2011-11-19 16:22:28] <AlratanMobile> Net zero votes
  833. [2011-11-19 16:22:46] <BUTTZ> Pretty sure we don't want to know what those "albino crocodile" shoes are made of
  834. [2011-11-19 16:22:48] <AlratanMobile> Shit, I'm wrong
  835. [2011-11-19 16:23:05] <HobNobbyBob> Alratan, Ironybot AND 3af16b supported it
  836. [2011-11-19 16:23:11] <Arkeus> <HobNobbyBob> I mean Arkeus <= where did i ask to 'do something' about Reaper Charm?
  837. [2011-11-19 16:23:12] <HobNobbyBob> Ah, did not see you had caught that.
  838. [2011-11-19 16:23:22] <Guile> we told her EVERYTHING everything?
  839. [2011-11-19 16:23:26] <HobNobbyBob> I just finished checking your post and it wasn't you.
  840. [2011-11-19 16:23:27] <Guile> Jesus christ.
  841. [2011-11-19 16:23:41] <AlratanMobile> Now, how do get enough people to vote to kill her?
  842. [2011-11-19 16:23:54] <HobNobbyBob> Good luck with that.
  843. [2011-11-19 16:23:54] <AlratanMobile> As that's the only option I see
  844. [2011-11-19 16:23:57] <A_Hungry_Shark> Holy fuck, we have a beard
  845. [2011-11-19 16:23:58] <Ironybot> I will finish reading the update before defending or regretting my actions, or commenting on a new course to take. I knew it was risky.
  846. [2011-11-19 16:23:59] <Samar> ?gfh
  847. [2011-11-19 16:24:00] <Classhole> http://tgchan.org/kusaba/quest/res/360354+50.html
  848. [2011-11-19 16:24:38] <AlratanMobile> Epically bad
  849. [2011-11-19 16:24:42] <BUTTZ> Ironybot there's no reason at all to defend anything, if they didn't like it they had plenty of chances to sust
  850. [2011-11-19 16:24:51] <BUTTZ> The update was three days in the making
  851. [2011-11-19 16:25:08] <AlratanMobile> I'm not joking when I'm saying she can't be allowed to live
  852. [2011-11-19 16:25:11] <HobNobbyBob> I don't think I saw a BUTTZ suggestion in there, could be wrong.
  853. [2011-11-19 16:25:19] <AlratanMobile> Unless we can wipe the memories somehow
  854. [2011-11-19 16:25:25] <Ironybot> While it is true that they had plenty of chances to SUST, it's not as though I strictly approve of everything that they did and I didn't SUST them all, so I don't necessarily support that logic.
  855. [2011-11-19 16:25:38] <BUTTZ> You are but it's not your fault Bob, I used a public internet connect
  856. [2011-11-19 16:25:39] <BUTTZ> ion
  857. [2011-11-19 16:25:43] <BUTTZ> so I had a different ID
  858. [2011-11-19 16:26:11] <BUTTZ> I was the long formal kinda strange dialogue at the end t here
  859. [2011-11-19 16:26:14] <Arkeus> -Possible affiliate of the Zosimus clan. [See 'Cornelius Zosimus' for details on the clan]
  860. [2011-11-19 16:26:15] <Arkeus> Or Markku <= or Zosimus, you mean
  861. [2011-11-19 16:26:17] <BUTTZ> shit I can't type today
  862. [2011-11-19 16:26:25] <HobNobbyBob> I'm not joking when I say there... is a very consistent bias on your part to want to kill/tell to fuck off more entities than any other poster, Alratan. Not saying you are right, wrong, whatever-but I'm wondering if you've noticed you've been the most... isolationist, of all the posters.
  863. [2011-11-19 16:26:25] <Arkeus> <HobNobbyBob> I don't think I saw a BUTTZ suggestion in there, could be wrong. <= the long ass dialog
  864. [2011-11-19 16:26:34] <BUTTZ> ID: 3af16b
  865. [2011-11-19 16:26:38] <BUTTZ> was mine
  866. [2011-11-19 16:27:01] <HobNobbyBob> I put that together when you said 'long one at end' and had already supported Ironybot.
  867. [2011-11-19 16:27:08] <HobNobbyBob> 1+1 in this case did in fact equal 2
  868. [2011-11-19 16:27:10] <HobNobbyBob> surprisingly.
  869. [2011-11-19 16:27:17] <BUTTZ> Well I am learning how to maths
  870. [2011-11-19 16:27:51] <HobNobbyBob> Good for you! Just be careful around that shit Pi. Fucker comes over to all the math parties, shoving himself in equations where no one invited him.
  871. [2011-11-19 16:27:55] <HobNobbyBob> Shit's irritating.
  872. [2011-11-19 16:27:56] <Guile> SM sent us to voicemail? Thats awesome; we have been abusing his cell phone privilege too much lately
  873. [2011-11-19 16:28:10] <BUTTZ> SM's probably busy doing something else in the real
  874. [2011-11-19 16:28:22] <BUTTZ> Probably has to do with that building we took down and the new friends we made
  875. [2011-11-19 16:28:27] <AlratanMobile> Bob: to my mind, hired assassins are not gregarious people
  876. [2011-11-19 16:28:33] <AlratanMobile> If they want to survive
  877. [2011-11-19 16:28:37] <Guile> anytime we think of something new to offer, sell or buy - lets give him a ring-a-ding
  878. [2011-11-19 16:29:50] <Guile> boy did we take Armas the wrong way then
  879. [2011-11-19 16:29:55] <HobNobbyBob> The difference here, Alratan, is that Armas isn't, and the quest never was, about being an assassin, but a gun for hire. a gun for hire can be used as a guard, military supplement, and otherwise be utilized in jobs that do require social skill.
  880. [2011-11-19 16:29:59] <Arkeus> >[Camella]"Well I couldn't comment on your attire could I? And what ARE you wearing?"
  881. [2011-11-19 16:29:59] <Arkeus> "Obviously I'm wearing a pimping suit." <= golden
  882. [2011-11-19 16:30:29] <HobNobbyBob> damn
  883. [2011-11-19 16:30:32] <Guile> is MB Matvey?
  884. [2011-11-19 16:30:36] <HobNobbyBob> should have been 'a pimping pimping suit.
  885. [2011-11-19 16:30:44] <Arkeus> awww
  886. [2011-11-19 16:30:45] <HobNobbyBob> Oh well, I'll leave it as is.
  887. [2011-11-19 16:30:50] <Arkeus> Still laughing my ass off
  888. [2011-11-19 16:30:55] <AlratanMobile> Armas needs social skill, and does jobs that need them
  889. [2011-11-19 16:30:58] <Arkeus> Also, bob, i am disappointed
  890. [2011-11-19 16:31:01] <HobNobbyBob> MB is Matvey
  891. [2011-11-19 16:31:05] <Arkeus> no description of camella's and ito's soul?
  892. [2011-11-19 16:31:07] <Arkeus> :-(
  893. [2011-11-19 16:31:12] <AlratanMobile> That doesn't means he can overshare
  894. [2011-11-19 16:31:15] <mib_04yhkt> I'm kind of surprised we got no reaction to the cannibal goddess bit.
  895. [2011-11-19 16:31:15] <Ironybot> Bob, since there's no specific dialogue involved in our story to Camella- did you just tell her "you can read this thread and know what's in it"?
  896. [2011-11-19 16:31:18] <HobNobbyBob> Dude, seven pages, first thing since waking up
  897. [2011-11-19 16:31:20] <Ironybot> Her player, that is.
  898. [2011-11-19 16:31:30] <BUTTZ> Alright guys, with the file we've got, we can backtrack and figure out where all that incriminating information came from, and destroy it
  899. [2011-11-19 16:31:32] <HobNobbyBob> That equates to: Fuck you, you write it or wait until the evening update.
  900. [2011-11-19 16:31:36] <BUTTZ> So we've got a long-term task!
  901. [2011-11-19 16:31:45] <BUTTZ> Possibly several meals!
  902. [2011-11-19 16:32:44] <HobNobbyBob> No, because I just answered a bunch of real time IRC questions from Jessica until she was satisfied that Armas had not just fully explained the trip, but also put in a damned decent effort at convincing her you AREN'T a wizard by trying to use existing magic knowledge to explain how you are something totally different.
  903. [2011-11-19 16:32:52] <Arkeus> HobNobbyBob: sorry, i was teasing you
  904. [2011-11-19 16:32:57] <Arkeus> I should have been clearer
  905. [2011-11-19 16:33:12] <mib_04yhkt> Any interesting reactions?
  906. [2011-11-19 16:33:23] <HobNobbyBob> Well, she... she REALLY wants to meet Einrik
  907. [2011-11-19 16:33:29] <HobNobbyBob> like, holy shit, does she want to meet him
  908. [2011-11-19 16:33:31] <BUTTZ> Everyone who hears about him does
  909. [2011-11-19 16:33:36] <BUTTZ> He's awesome
  910. [2011-11-19 16:33:43] <mib_04yhkt> He's kind of the best friend you could have
  911. [2011-11-19 16:33:44] <Arkeus> Yes he is
  912. [2011-11-19 16:33:55] <Arkeus> She doesn't think anything of Hillevi?
  913. [2011-11-19 16:34:16] <HobNobbyBob> She's... been decidedly close-mouthed about Hillevi impressions so far, actually.
  914. [2011-11-19 16:34:16] <Guile> how weird is that?
  915. [2011-11-19 16:34:23] <Arkeus> mmmh
  916. [2011-11-19 16:34:24] <BUTTZ> Ha ha she's worried
  917. [2011-11-19 16:34:32] <A_Hungry_Shark> Now...
  918. [2011-11-19 16:34:37] <A_Hungry_Shark> Camella v.s. Hillevi
  919. [2011-11-19 16:34:40] <Arkeus> Did we tell her anything about BB?
  920. [2011-11-19 16:34:42] <A_Hungry_Shark> Take out the popcorn
  921. [2011-11-19 16:34:42] <mib_04yhkt> I'm kind of sad we told her about our brothers BEFORE trolling her with them.
  922. [2011-11-19 16:34:44] <Wutenheimer> totally jealous
  923. [2011-11-19 16:34:50] <Guile> Our best friend is a dude we met two weeks ago, with a baby 'thulhu in his head, who's using us as a guinea pig
  924. [2011-11-19 16:34:51] <Wutenheimer> MISSION SUCESSFUL
  925. [2011-11-19 16:34:51] <Arkeus> ahah Grail
  926. [2011-11-19 16:35:01] <mib_04yhkt> Poor form Armas
  927. [2011-11-19 16:35:03] <mib_04yhkt> Poor form
  928. [2011-11-19 16:35:14] <HobNobbyBob> She thinks Markku isn't as big of an ass as Armas made him out to be, made no comment on Big's stay up there, was pleasently surprised about you being nice to the kids, was facepalming when you said what you did when drunk on spirit wine.....
  929. [2011-11-19 16:35:19] <Wutenheimer> yeah, was kinda annoyed by that part
  930. [2011-11-19 16:35:27] <HobNobbyBob> You have not commented on TODAY yet, actually.
  931. [2011-11-19 16:35:31] <A_Hungry_Shark> Hey now, they're both tired as fuck
  932. [2011-11-19 16:35:35] <mib_04yhkt> Nah Guile, our best friend is our shadow, who is us.
  933. [2011-11-19 16:35:37] <AlratanMobile> So, we didn't ask Amen the questions about if our Bloodlines can help us learn chakra abilities before going to visit the only actually friendly chakra adept we know
  934. [2011-11-19 16:35:41] <AlratanMobile> Damn
  935. [2011-11-19 16:35:45] <Arkeus> bob: beside Go ping dumping blood on us :-)
  936. [2011-11-19 16:35:45] <Wutenheimer> hey now, today isnt part of our trip
  937. [2011-11-19 16:35:46] <BUTTZ> "Yeah any stories you hear about the Penis Troll? Uh, totally exaggerated. No one died, I swear to that!"
  938. [2011-11-19 16:35:46] <Arkeus> Cool
  939. [2011-11-19 16:35:48] <Guile> true that, grail.
  940. [2011-11-19 16:36:01] <Ironybot> She was surprised that we were nice to the kids? Really?
  941. [2011-11-19 16:36:06] <Ironybot> I'm hurt.
  942. [2011-11-19 16:36:07] <Wutenheimer> we didnt agree to share that
  943. [2011-11-19 16:36:16] <Wutenheimer> Offended even
  944. [2011-11-19 16:36:17] <A_Hungry_Shark> We're not a heartless bastard
  945. [2011-11-19 16:36:20] <BUTTZ> Alratan we asked Amen about spirit shaman-chakra interactions waaay before
  946. [2011-11-19 16:36:22] <AlratanMobile> Was hoping to convert some of our OOC knowledge to IC knowledge before this meeting
  947. [2011-11-19 16:36:37] <AlratanMobile> BUTTZ: that's not what I asked about
  948. [2011-11-19 16:36:46] <BUTTZ> A'right
  949. [2011-11-19 16:36:55] <Arkeus> So bob, basically half the update was done via talking to camella?
  950. [2011-11-19 16:37:15] <mib_04yhkt> Can we get a more detailed story on Camella's encounters with Blackbeard?
  951. [2011-11-19 16:37:40] <Guile> Baki Yamada - sounds like someone from the Yakuza
  952. [2011-11-19 16:37:56] <HobNobbyBob> Well, let's see here
  953. [2011-11-19 16:38:07] <Guile> we are a TOTALLY heartless person, we just have mood swings where we decide to do good things
  954. [2011-11-19 16:38:29] <Guile> Walt Endman, I dunno... Nazis, maybe?
  955. [2011-11-19 16:38:35] <Guile> Contract killer?
  956. [2011-11-19 16:38:37] <mib_04yhkt> Endman
  957. [2011-11-19 16:38:42] <mib_04yhkt> I like that name
  958. [2011-11-19 16:38:47] <A_Hungry_Shark> >Endman
  959. [2011-11-19 16:38:49] <HobNobbyBob> first encounter was solo, before the van explosion and was just a 'eyes meet, faces memorized' thing.
  960. [2011-11-19 16:38:51] <A_Hungry_Shark> Dat name
  961. [2011-11-19 16:38:53] <Guile> unthreatening, right? sounds like a swell guy
  962. [2011-11-19 16:38:55] <HobNobbyBob> next was van explodey
  963. [2011-11-19 16:39:02] <A_Hungry_Shark> BASTARD
  964. [2011-11-19 16:39:04] <HobNobbyBob> Camella was now invested in having a further meeting
  965. [2011-11-19 16:39:19] <mib_04yhkt> Right how did the van exploding go off?
  966. [2011-11-19 16:39:24] <mib_04yhkt> She was in the car right?
  967. [2011-11-19 16:39:34] <Guile> "Now Camella, I'm not mad about the van exploding... but I AM disappointed. Thankfully, I expressed this disappointment to Blackbeard in person, and am now satisfied."
  968. [2011-11-19 16:39:45] <mib_04yhkt> Then a molotov went in and she tried to get out?
  969. [2011-11-19 16:39:50] <HobNobbyBob> Camella pursued, encountered while he was attacking another freelance mercenary in the area, failed to keep merc alive, didn't drive him off so much as prove too much a pain in the ass to put down, might as well just leave category.
  970. [2011-11-19 16:39:56] <Arkeus> Bob, does Jessica knows Hillevi is controlled by a player?
  971. [2011-11-19 16:40:13] <HobNobbyBob> She knows.
  972. [2011-11-19 16:40:23] <A_Hungry_Shark> Oh boy.
  973. [2011-11-19 16:41:00] <HobNobbyBob> Third encounter was after Camella recruited the Hafaz and co. along with Go Ping and tried to find a place they could camp out for him, rather than trying to catch him when he's already loaded for war.
  974. [2011-11-19 16:41:53] <AlratanMobile> A thought
  975. [2011-11-19 16:42:05] <AlratanMobile> Sake can smell gold
  976. [2011-11-19 16:42:08] <HobNobbyBob> Hit him when he was buying explosives from Yilmaz, an explosives merchant-not a legal one, obviously. He managed to escape thanks to LOLCHARMS, but Camella and Hafaz were able to follow him into the sewers, and after Hafaz' leg got fucked up, she pursued alone
  977. [2011-11-19 16:42:17] <AlratanMobile> BB's charms are gold
  978. [2011-11-19 16:42:29] <AlratanMobile> He can thus be tracked
  979. [2011-11-19 16:42:40] <mib_04yhkt> Or we can use his blood
  980. [2011-11-19 16:42:49] <A_Hungry_Shark> I'm sure with some effort, we can smell gold too
  981. [2011-11-19 16:43:03] <HobNobbyBob> shot him down from twenty charms with three of them primary charm, to seven charms, only one primary, and in the process fought an interfering undersewer denizen that came to say hello to the one that got away.
  982. [2011-11-19 16:43:12] <HobNobbyBob> Axed it a question, kept shooting like a pro
  983. [2011-11-19 16:43:16] <HobNobbyBob> and she rolled for all these
  984. [2011-11-19 16:43:25] <HobNobbyBob> hell, Wutenheimer saw the rolling
  985. [2011-11-19 16:43:28] <HobNobbyBob> he was there
  986. [2011-11-19 16:43:29] <A_Hungry_Shark> ...
  987. [2011-11-19 16:43:32] <Ironybot> What is a "primary charm"?
  988. [2011-11-19 16:43:32] <HobNobbyBob> as Hafaz
  989. [2011-11-19 16:43:33] <mib_04yhkt> What type of denizen was it?
  990. [2011-11-19 16:43:41] <mib_04yhkt> Not asking for a race
  991. [2011-11-19 16:43:46] <mib_04yhkt> But what she saw of it
  992. [2011-11-19 16:44:05] <HobNobbyBob> It was a corpse/vulture hybrid ghast with semi-organic armor growing out of it with claws like meat hooks
  993. [2011-11-19 16:44:18] <Ironybot> Sounds ugly.
  994. [2011-11-19 16:44:24] <mib_04yhkt> Sounds tasty
  995. [2011-11-19 16:44:25] <HobNobbyBob> and it shrugged off bullets like no big deal
  996. [2011-11-19 16:44:28] <HobNobbyBob> like they were BBs
  997. [2011-11-19 16:44:33] <A_Hungry_Shark> Semi-organic armor sounds pretty sweet
  998. [2011-11-19 16:44:37] <HobNobbyBob> so she axed a question
  999. [2011-11-19 16:44:39] <HobNobbyBob> or ten
  1000. [2011-11-19 16:44:47] <mib_04yhkt> How did she avoid being cut to ribbons?
  1001. [2011-11-19 16:44:50] <A_Hungry_Shark> An interview!
  1002. [2011-11-19 16:44:51] <HobNobbyBob> and caught back up to BB, kept shooting
  1003. [2011-11-19 16:44:55] <mib_04yhkt> I have to ask
  1004. [2011-11-19 16:45:02] <A_Hungry_Shark> axe*
  1005. [2011-11-19 16:45:10] <HobNobbyBob> She honestly just kept rolling stupidly well.
  1006. [2011-11-19 16:45:22] <mib_04yhkt> This perplexes me
  1007. [2011-11-19 16:45:28] <A_Hungry_Shark> How is this possible?
  1008. [2011-11-19 16:45:30] <Ironybot> Camella's greatest superpower: Real-world luck.
  1009. [2011-11-19 16:45:37] <HobNobbyBob> It was an independant website that generates trust, no 'trust' or any bullshit like that.
  1010. [2011-11-19 16:45:58] <HobNobbyBob> Hell, Wutenheimer was playing Hafaz partly so I had a goddamn witness.
  1011. [2011-11-19 16:45:59] <mib_04yhkt> I get that it is possible to roll that well, but just how did you describe this?
  1012. [2011-11-19 16:46:04] <Wutenheimer> it was fucking rediculous
  1013. [2011-11-19 16:46:14] <A_Hungry_Shark> How much?
  1014. [2011-11-19 16:46:15] <mib_04yhkt> "The monster stubs it's toe on a rock"
  1015. [2011-11-19 16:46:21] <mib_04yhkt> "You manage to duck away"
  1016. [2011-11-19 16:46:32] <mib_04yhkt> "It then hits it's head on a low hanging ceiling"
  1017. [2011-11-19 16:46:35] <HobNobbyBob> On more than forty rolls, she averaged in the low 70th percentile
  1018. [2011-11-19 16:46:40] <HobNobbyBob> I don't understand how.
  1019. [2011-11-19 16:46:42] <A_Hungry_Shark> . . .
  1020. [2011-11-19 16:46:42] <HobNobbyBob> but she did
  1021. [2011-11-19 16:46:44] <A_Hungry_Shark> Holy shit
  1022. [2011-11-19 16:46:49] <AlratanMobile> So, this update, can I propose we say that we recognised that we have a lot in be humble about in our shooting
  1023. [2011-11-19 16:46:50] <BUTTZ> Someone has to be above the curve
  1024. [2011-11-19 16:46:58] <Wutenheimer> she's running, it wants to say hai, she chops it to bits with axes in less than 5 seconds barely even slowing down
  1025. [2011-11-19 16:47:05] <BUTTZ> Also let's talk her into being a witch
  1026. [2011-11-19 16:47:10] <Ironybot> I am surprised that we were able to tell Camella the entire story of our trip in just twenty minutes.
  1027. [2011-11-19 16:47:17] <AlratanMobile> More likely there's a systematic issue with the roller software
  1028. [2011-11-19 16:47:20] <HobNobbyBob> Honestly, her melee bit was, with d20s, mostly 18s, 19s and 20s
  1029. [2011-11-19 16:47:25] <Wutenheimer> yeah
  1030. [2011-11-19 16:47:26] <HobNobbyBob> that was about half the melee rolls really
  1031. [2011-11-19 16:47:29] <A_Hungry_Shark> My god
  1032. [2011-11-19 16:47:29] <HobNobbyBob> which was terrifying
  1033. [2011-11-19 16:47:32] <Arkeus> Ok bob, when did Camella express interesti n meeting Einrik?
  1034. [2011-11-19 16:47:37] <Arkeus> when we told her about Stallon?
  1035. [2011-11-19 16:47:38] <Arkeus> before?
  1036. [2011-11-19 16:47:42] <Arkeus> the Dragons?
  1037. [2011-11-19 16:47:46] <A_Hungry_Shark> Favored by the Dice Gods
  1038. [2011-11-19 16:47:55] <HobNobbyBob> Stallon and Dragons heightened it.
  1039. [2011-11-19 16:47:58] <AlratanMobile> It's notable that rolls on Quest are correlated
  1040. [2011-11-19 16:48:02] <Guile> Im hoping we didnt tell her about babythulhu, that seems like not our story to spread around
  1041. [2011-11-19 16:48:06] <AlratanMobile> For example
  1042. [2011-11-19 16:48:39] <HobNobbyBob> You mentioned he's got a magic thing in his noggin to help him see
  1043. [2011-11-19 16:48:48] <Guile> good enuff
  1044. [2011-11-19 16:48:50] <mib_04yhkt> How much did we tell her about Silja?
  1045. [2011-11-19 16:48:52] <A_Hungry_Shark> yip yip
  1046. [2011-11-19 16:48:56] <HobNobbyBob> She didn't enquire further on what it was, so there was no reason to specify
  1047. [2011-11-19 16:48:58] <BUTTZ> Well that's not bad, that's obvious anyway if he's not wearing his charm
  1048. [2011-11-19 16:49:36] <HobNobbyBob> That you're trying to give someone who had a shitty early end to life the second chance that they've been waiting close to a century for.
  1049. [2011-11-19 16:49:46] <mib_04yhkt> Good spin
  1050. [2011-11-19 16:50:04] <A_Hungry_Shark> Nice!
  1051. [2011-11-19 16:50:15] <HobNobbyBob> She gobbled that shit up-and thankfully did not inquire as to gender. I think she think's some little boy's trapped in there or something, rather than an adult woman.
  1052. [2011-11-19 16:50:16] <Ironybot> Oh Armas, you so PR-friendly.
  1053. [2011-11-19 16:50:21] <HobNobbyBob> From some of her phrasing.
  1054. [2011-11-19 16:50:47] <AlratanMobile> Did we take Silja with us?
  1055. [2011-11-19 16:50:48] <A_Hungry_Shark> Heh.
  1056. [2011-11-19 16:50:51] <A_Hungry_Shark> A little boy
  1057. [2011-11-19 16:50:53] <Ironybot> Didn't we tell her Silja's name? Did she not recognize it as a Finnish woman's name?
  1058. [2011-11-19 16:51:07] <HobNobbyBob> I mean, she still now knows you have a potentially very..... 'people are watching in the magic community to see what ELSE you do and not in a good way' rifle.
  1059. [2011-11-19 16:51:32] <Arkeus> She does? huh
  1060. [2011-11-19 16:51:35] <Arkeus> And wow, those files are scary
  1061. [2011-11-19 16:51:38] <Arkeus> the ones we found
  1062. [2011-11-19 16:51:41] <Arkeus> :-(
  1063. [2011-11-19 16:51:46] <Arkeus> We have to learn to be real careful
  1064. [2011-11-19 16:51:50] <A_Hungry_Shark> Lot of info on us...
  1065. [2011-11-19 16:51:55] <mib_04yhkt> On the bright side we have potentially damning evidence against two other people
  1066. [2011-11-19 16:52:05] <A_Hungry_Shark> Also, >-Connections with Wyld Goblins
  1067. [2011-11-19 16:52:06] <HobNobbyBob> You were completely gender neutral in reference to her, and was thinking child
  1068. [2011-11-19 16:52:15] <A_Hungry_Shark> They either saw us enter the sewers
  1069. [2011-11-19 16:52:17] <HobNobbyBob> Jessica was, that is.
  1070. [2011-11-19 16:52:19] <Arkeus> Armas is good
  1071. [2011-11-19 16:52:26] <A_Hungry_Shark> Or SM sold info on us before the secrecy deal
  1072. [2011-11-19 16:52:35] <HobNobbyBob> You have an auto-activating M7
  1073. [2011-11-19 16:52:36] <Arkeus> A_Hungry_Shark: doubtful
  1074. [2011-11-19 16:52:38] <Arkeus> photos
  1075. [2011-11-19 16:52:38] <HobNobbyBob> what do you expect
  1076. [2011-11-19 16:52:41] <Arkeus> it has photos
  1077. [2011-11-19 16:52:52] <BUTTZ> Shark they could just have a soul reader look at the runes that are engraved on us
  1078. [2011-11-19 16:52:59] <Ironybot> What exactly did we say about the Ogrimir contract and what it involves?
  1079. [2011-11-19 16:53:03] <BUTTZ> The ones that keep those NN strikes from killing us
  1080. [2011-11-19 16:53:03] <AlratanMobile> Runes?
  1081. [2011-11-19 16:53:03] <BUTTZ> l
  1082. [2011-11-19 16:53:06] <Arkeus> oh btw- level 7 mental trait: One out of 100 million people?
  1083. [2011-11-19 16:53:23] <Ironybot> I mean, obviously there are certain points that we hit if we can honestly say we told her about him, but seeing how we spun Silja I have to wonder.
  1084. [2011-11-19 16:53:32] <BUTTZ> The Finnish Devil commented on them rememeber? "The stink of goblins on you" or something like that.
  1085. [2011-11-19 16:53:35] <HobNobbyBob> ...Shit, I can't find my table on ratios of level to total populace.
  1086. [2011-11-19 16:54:07] <A_Hungry_Shark> Look in that one place you almost /never/ look
  1087. [2011-11-19 16:54:11] <HobNobbyBob> You guys should probably ask any more 'what did Jessica learn about:' things now before I head off to Skyrim binge
  1088. [2011-11-19 16:54:19] <TMIoverload> I'm more interested on what we told her about the Devil and the Dragons
  1089. [2011-11-19 16:54:28] <A_Hungry_Shark> And Og.
  1090. [2011-11-19 16:54:29] <Wutenheimer> say bob, currently we can change how armas thinks or views things with M7, at what point does it start affecting things around him?
  1091. [2011-11-19 16:54:35] <Wutenheimer> >ha! i shot you!
  1092. [2011-11-19 16:54:40] <Wutenheimer> >no, you shot yourself
  1093. [2011-11-19 16:54:45] <Arkeus> IT doesn't
  1094. [2011-11-19 16:54:48] <Arkeus> That's Trickster God realm
  1095. [2011-11-19 16:54:51] <A_Hungry_Shark> We're not a Trickstor God
  1096. [2011-11-19 16:54:54] <BUTTZ> Bob did she learn much about Amen?
  1097. [2011-11-19 16:55:04] <BUTTZ> Like besides he's horribad news
  1098. [2011-11-19 16:55:08] <Wutenheimer> well then it's time for some trickstergodding
  1099. [2011-11-19 16:55:31] <TMIoverload> Oh, does she know Hillevi is under a glamour?
  1100. [2011-11-19 16:55:59] <A_Hungry_Shark> Also, we need shootan training from Camella. Alldayerryday
  1101. [2011-11-19 16:56:01] <HobNobbyBob> You told her a devil was coming and you hopefully don't have to fight it due to AMEN, but your plan is risky and you genuinely would rather not expose her to the risk, especially since he doesn't have any guns he thinks could hurt it.
  1102. [2011-11-19 16:56:06] <A_Hungry_Shark> And by we, I mean, us and the Russians
  1103. [2011-11-19 16:56:10] <HobNobbyBob> But that it was inclined to fight you.
  1104. [2011-11-19 16:56:14] <mib_04yhkt> Did you mean to say Einher or Einherjar in the bit where we were telling her about our trip? As in did we tell her about fighting only one or multiple?
  1105. [2011-11-19 16:56:23] <Ironybot> What did Jessica learn about Ogrimir, our relationship with him, and how much he can demand of us?
  1106. [2011-11-19 16:56:42] <Ironybot> Which is "basically whatever the fuck he wants for one week a season".
  1107. [2011-11-19 16:56:58] <A_Hungry_Shark> inb4 he wants us to be a waiter for a week
  1108. [2011-11-19 16:57:19] <HobNobbyBob> You told her that the dragons were assholes and immensely powerful, and that you honestly hope to some day give proper 'thanks' the the spanish one if there's a chance, but otherwise see no reason to hate them: They're just like overly sensitive Lieutenants that have absurd amounts of drama and snippiness in them
  1109. [2011-11-19 16:57:36] <HobNobbyBob> coupled with much more power and inclination to murder things that aren't them
  1110. [2011-11-19 16:58:11] <Arkeus> Did we tell her about regenerating a arm in 2 second flat?
  1111. [2011-11-19 16:58:31] <HobNobbyBob> You told her that Og helped keep you alive multiple times, and is far more like a regular client than a god, in terms of how one looks at them, regardless of how much respect you may feel inclined to offer.
  1112. [2011-11-19 16:58:51] <Ironybot> That's a remarkably positive spin on him.
  1113. [2011-11-19 16:59:07] <A_Hungry_Shark> Did we tell her of Chuggy, Skull-Kid, Old Woosley, Armin, and the RAEG fragment?
  1114. [2011-11-19 16:59:16] <Ironybot> On the other hand, I suppose Armas might not be as convinced that he's going to fuck us as I am.
  1115. [2011-11-19 16:59:19] <A_Hungry_Shark> No wait, how /much/ did we tell her of...*
  1116. [2011-11-19 16:59:34] <HobNobbyBob> She learned that Amen is a Pandora's box. Yes he is immensely powerful and to a degree is your go to resource for more things than anything else, and is bound to be safe so long as you don't give stupid orders.... BUT that also makes Amen a monkey's paw.
  1117. [2011-11-19 16:59:41] <Arkeus> Ironybot: we can't do anything about it, so no use worrying
  1118. [2011-11-19 17:00:06] <HobNobbyBob> She came away with the conclusion of 'where possible, use as little as possible, interact with as little as possible, but living is preferable to dying because you didn
  1119. [2011-11-19 17:00:11] <HobNobbyBob> 't want to use it.'
  1120. [2011-11-19 17:00:26] <HobNobbyBob> She does NOT know how tall Hillevi is no
  1121. [2011-11-19 17:00:30] <HobNobbyBob> she knows she has a glamor
  1122. [2011-11-19 17:00:47] <Ironybot> We didn't mention that all the Valkonens are like eight feet tall?
  1123. [2011-11-19 17:01:52] <HobNobbyBob> Armin yes, that he's a mercenary that's rather polite and more importantly both skilled, willing to cancel dangerous contracts and knowledgeable about Blackbeard. She is interested but wary of ever meeting him, but is open to the idea.
  1124. [2011-11-19 17:01:54] <MrTT> ?gfh
  1125. [2011-11-19 17:01:54] <Classhole> http://tgchan.org/kusaba/quest/res/360354+50.html
  1126. [2011-11-19 17:02:20] <HobNobbyBob> You told her about the Einherjar non-specifically, merely how many you encountered, and that you won.
  1127. [2011-11-19 17:02:48] <HobNobbyBob> She didn't seem to have amny questions about Einherjar at all, actually. I suspect she assumes they are the same as straight mythical Einherjar.
  1128. [2011-11-19 17:02:48] <Ironybot> Does she know that killing Einher on sight is a mandatory part of our Ogrimir contract?
  1129. [2011-11-19 17:02:56] <HobNobbyBob> yes.
  1130. [2011-11-19 17:03:02] <TMIoverload> Did we tell her about how we come backt o life when we die, and if so that doing so could potentially massively fuck us right now?
  1131. [2011-11-19 17:03:07] <mib_04yhkt> How did we spin cannibalism to her?
  1132. [2011-11-19 17:03:10] <Ironybot> Okay, good. Could have been a point of confusion there.
  1133. [2011-11-19 17:03:16] <A_Hungry_Shark> Why isn't "Straight up Asshole' in our file?
  1134. [2011-11-19 17:03:39] <HobNobbyBob> Cannibalism was mysteriously omitted by means of never being directly inferenced as what it was.
  1135. [2011-11-19 17:03:54] <HobNobbyBob> She knows you are more of an eater than before, and that it's connected with your increased recuperative abilities.
  1136. [2011-11-19 17:04:05] <Guile> We still havent talked to Woosley! Dammit
  1137. [2011-11-19 17:04:18] <mib_04yhkt> You want to invite him to come out to the gym?
  1138. [2011-11-19 17:04:20] <HobNobbyBob> Do you guys remember why you wanted to talk to him I wonder.
  1139. [2011-11-19 17:04:21] <Ironybot> Damn. One of Armas' biggest mental problems that he really needs someone to talk to about is "oh god, people taste more delicious than anything ever to me now".
  1140. [2011-11-19 17:04:22] <mib_04yhkt> Maybe spar a little?
  1141. [2011-11-19 17:04:36] <mib_04yhkt> Get an energy shake?
  1142. [2011-11-19 17:04:59] <TMIoverload> Only reason i had for wanting to talk to him is we put off our conversation for another time and it'd be rude to never call him back after saying we would
  1143. [2011-11-19 17:05:00] <A_Hungry_Shark> Soon, we'll be seeing everyone as juicy steaks
  1144. [2011-11-19 17:05:01] <Guile> besides to find out if Armin is dead or not? Mostly cuz he asked us to
  1145. [2011-11-19 17:05:13] <Guile> Camella is a very moral individual, Irony
  1146. [2011-11-19 17:05:20] <Guile> she should not be our therapist on that
  1147. [2011-11-19 17:05:22] <HobNobbyBob> Einrik would seem a... safer person to talk to about the cannibalism
  1148. [2011-11-19 17:05:33] <HobNobbyBob> I think he's come across as a rather nonjudgemental person.
  1149. [2011-11-19 17:05:46] <A_Hungry_Shark> Einrik at least chose to ignore our Cannibal Goddess Soul-Graft
  1150. [2011-11-19 17:05:53] <Arkeus> Camella is what we want Hillevi to become
  1151. [2011-11-19 17:06:00] <mib_04yhkt> What does she know about Shadowbro and Sake?
  1152. [2011-11-19 17:06:03] <Arkeus> Still moralist, but not having problems with fighting
  1153. [2011-11-19 17:06:05] <Ironybot> Einrik is so nonjudgemental that he is utterly incapable of serving as a moral compass of any sort, except with regard to the practical implications of morality.
  1154. [2011-11-19 17:06:09] <TMIoverload> Hillevi didn't seem to care much either about the whole Cannibal Goddess soul graft
  1155. [2011-11-19 17:06:09] <Guile> He's basically us if we were a 8 foot tall badass. we have a lot of the same issues, drive to succeed, etcetera
  1156. [2011-11-19 17:06:28] <Arkeus> He is slightly saner than us, i think
  1157. [2011-11-19 17:06:48] <Guile> he comes off that way anyway; and I bet we come off saner than we actually are in casual conversation
  1158. [2011-11-19 17:06:55] <BUTTZ> He basically said "Well I mean, if you want to enslave Silja that's your business. I don't think it'll go very well with anyone that finds out, but I'm not going to make a judgement beyond that."
  1159. [2011-11-19 17:07:03] <TMIoverload> I think Einrik just has a better hold on his insanity, rather then necessarily being saner
  1160. [2011-11-19 17:07:15] <Arkeus> He also knows how to talk to us
  1161. [2011-11-19 17:07:23] <A_Hungry_Shark> But he hates puns D:
  1162. [2011-11-19 17:07:26] <Arkeus> he didn't say "this is a bad idea" because he knows it won't work
  1163. [2011-11-19 17:07:28] <HobNobbyBob> She knows that you have a split soul, and another piece is kept safely away. Phrasing was ambiguous enough while still flat truthful she came away with the conclusion that the split soul was only 'technically' another entity, not actually capable of independent action. She did not ask to verify her suspicions, so Armas was not required to correct her.
  1164. [2011-11-19 17:07:36] <Arkeus> he said "ok, you do it, and practically everyone wants you dead"
  1165. [2011-11-19 17:07:53] <Arkeus> bob: eghehehehhee
  1166. [2011-11-19 17:08:03] <mib_04yhkt> And Sake?
  1167. [2011-11-19 17:08:04] <A_Hungry_Shark> Good good, she'll at least still be surprised when we troll the fuck out of her
  1168. [2011-11-19 17:08:05] <Ironybot> One of the primary benefits of telling Camella about things is that she can grab our shirt and shake us while saying "Armas that is fucking crazy and you need to stop it right the fuck now" instead of blithely watching us leap off a cliff while studiously taking notes on our diving technique.
  1169. [2011-11-19 17:08:25] <Arkeus> lol
  1170. [2011-11-19 17:08:25] <Arkeus> ahhahah
  1171. [2011-11-19 17:08:27] <A_Hungry_Shark> SWAN DIVE
  1172. [2011-11-19 17:08:29] <BUTTZ> I'd say that's the biggest benefit besides the trust it buys us with her
  1173. [2011-11-19 17:08:33] <TMIoverload> Does she know we have a weasel for a brother? Or did we phrase that as befriending a lesser divine spirit or something?
  1174. [2011-11-19 17:08:38] <HobNobbyBob> She also thinks your Spirit Brothersortaanimal Sake is more a magic pet, like a mascot, than anything else.
  1175. [2011-11-19 17:08:46] <A_Hungry_Shark> >Sake >Pet
  1176. [2011-11-19 17:08:47] <HobNobbyBob> I was particularly pleased she made THAT conclusion
  1177. [2011-11-19 17:08:47] <BUTTZ> Man she's in for a rude awakening
  1178. [2011-11-19 17:08:57] <A_Hungry_Shark> Oh boy
  1179. [2011-11-19 17:09:08] <mib_04yhkt> We didn't tell her that he was one of the most dangerous opponents we've ever faced did we?
  1180. [2011-11-19 17:09:22] <A_Hungry_Shark> 'So this is Sake? Nice Pet!' *wind blast to the face*
  1181. [2011-11-19 17:09:39] <HobNobbyBob> You mentioned a weasel that was a very difficult hunt, but she wasn't interested in the story.
  1182. [2011-11-19 17:09:41] <BUTTZ> More like "Armas PLEASE let me troll her! I'll be non-lethal, I promise"
  1183. [2011-11-19 17:10:14] <BUTTZ> "If you can't fix it, don't break it."
  1184. [2011-11-19 17:10:15] <HobNobbyBob> >Sake trips Camella at all times while she spars with a kid, kid demolishes her
  1185. [2011-11-19 17:10:15] <TMIoverload> All those scenarios require us to not introduce Sake as our brother, which i don't approve of
  1186. [2011-11-19 17:10:15] <HobNobbyBob> >Camella: WTF was that?
  1187. [2011-11-19 17:10:20] <Ironybot> Oh god, Sake is going to pretend to not be a person specifically so that she blames us instead of him for everything he does.
  1188. [2011-11-19 17:10:23] <Arkeus> hehe
  1189. [2011-11-19 17:10:31] <Arkeus> indeed
  1190. [2011-11-19 17:10:39] <HobNobbyBob> Ironybot figured that out rather swiftly.
  1191. [2011-11-19 17:10:50] <HobNobbyBob> He will enact the dancing frog routine on you with her.
  1192. [2011-11-19 17:10:51] <Arkeus> Also, Camella's going to be pissed when Hillevi manhandles her in sparring
  1193. [2011-11-19 17:11:02] <Arkeus> Awesome
  1194. [2011-11-19 17:11:48] <A_Hungry_Shark> Take out the popcorn
  1195. [2011-11-19 17:11:49] <Wutenheimer> hold her shoe to the ground, making it feel like a sticky floor or an unnaturallly grippy surface rather than outright tripping
  1196. [2011-11-19 17:13:27] <A_Hungry_Shark> Whoa wait
  1197. [2011-11-19 17:13:28] <BUTTZ> A quick subtle puff of wind to the eyes, to make them water at just the wrong moment
  1198. [2011-11-19 17:13:28] <Arkeus> Oh right bob, did we ahve any reason to take the soul of the reaper out?
  1199. [2011-11-19 17:13:28] <Arkeus> isn't it much safer in our eye?
  1200. [2011-11-19 17:13:28] <A_Hungry_Shark> What does she knows of Iron Trick? What does she think of it?
  1201. [2011-11-19 17:13:28] <BUTTZ> Iron Trick's designed to not be thought of
  1202. [2011-11-19 17:13:29] <AlratanMobile> Oh, Bob, are Armas' physical traits, strength, speed, etc, nowsuperhuman
  1203. [2011-11-19 17:13:29] <Arkeus> I think some are expert, some are peak, and some are getting superhumans
  1204. [2011-11-19 17:13:29] <TMIoverload> Bob... we didn't explain to her how we made breakfast without her notciign, did we?
  1205. [2011-11-19 17:13:29] <AlratanMobile> I.e. do we need to lower ourself to human levels so not to hurt people we spar with
  1206. [2011-11-19 17:13:29] <Arkeus> i don't think they are already there
  1207. [2011-11-19 17:13:29] <TMIoverload> noticing*
  1208. [2011-11-19 17:13:30] <Arkeus> ... good question
  1209. [2011-11-19 17:13:30] <A_Hungry_Shark> Our speed isn't superhuman
  1210. [2011-11-19 17:13:41] <Arkeus> A_Hungry_Shark: in shadow it is
  1211. [2011-11-19 17:13:47] <BUTTZ> Oh my goodness, depending on how much water Sake can carry in his wind, he could people wet willies from afar
  1212. [2011-11-19 17:13:55] <A_Hungry_Shark> BUTTZ wtf
  1213. [2011-11-19 17:14:08] <BUTTZ> A quick spritz of water in the ear canal
  1214. [2011-11-19 17:14:16] <Guile> WHY would it be safer in our eye? Its our fucking eye! He's in a little jar now!
  1215. [2011-11-19 17:14:16] <BUTTZ> Talk about distracting
  1216. [2011-11-19 17:14:24] <A_Hungry_Shark> Oh, the old spit on a finger in your ear prank
  1217. [2011-11-19 17:14:27] <BUTTZ> Yep
  1218. [2011-11-19 17:14:39] <Arkeus> Guile: it's a fucking demi-plane
  1219. [2011-11-19 17:14:41] <Arkeus> no one can come in we don't invite
  1220. [2011-11-19 17:14:42] <HobNobbyBob> Armas is starting to crest into supernatural relative to what his size, build and composition should have, yes. The only ones that are even close to a 10% improvement so far have been largely perceptual gains, but you are.... hold on, gotta use the table...
  1221. [2011-11-19 17:14:43] <Ironybot> I wonder if we could have held this conversation with Camella inside our eye's spirit demiplane.
  1222. [2011-11-19 17:14:46] <Arkeus> in a fucking jar is not safe at all
  1223. [2011-11-19 17:15:07] <HobNobbyBob> Ah..... thank god I have a running tab of dated soul xp
  1224. [2011-11-19 17:15:07] <HobNobbyBob> and NO you can't see that
  1225. [2011-11-19 17:15:09] <HobNobbyBob> No way Armas could read it now.
  1226. [2011-11-19 17:15:21] <Guile> jar, soul-holding reliquary, same fdifference
  1227. [2011-11-19 17:15:22] <Arkeus> Ironybot: i don't think we are good enough to take her soul out yet
  1228. [2011-11-19 17:15:25] <A_Hungry_Shark> >.<
  1229. [2011-11-19 17:15:39] <Arkeus> Guile: one is a physical thing we need to be aware of and take out
  1230. [2011-11-19 17:15:43] <Arkeus> the other is our fucking eye
  1231. [2011-11-19 17:15:48] <Arkeus> a demi-plane perfect for that
  1232. [2011-11-19 17:15:50] <Guile> It was causing us pain when we took it out
  1233. [2011-11-19 17:15:55] <A_Hungry_Shark> Wait a sec...if the Reaper\s soul is in our eye, and Amen can't see what's inside, just how the fuck did he take the soul out?
  1234. [2011-11-19 17:15:57] <Arkeus> No it wasn't
  1235. [2011-11-19 17:15:58] <HobNobbyBob> You are 3% give or take, stronger, and 2.5% more durable.
  1236. [2011-11-19 17:16:03] <Arkeus> We didn't ntoice it being taken out
  1237. [2011-11-19 17:16:04] <Ironybot> Being able to hold chats with other people in our eye would be pretty useful, though.
  1238. [2011-11-19 17:16:12] <Arkeus> Ironybot: yes it would
  1239. [2011-11-19 17:16:14] <Arkeus> and weasel wine
  1240. [2011-11-19 17:16:17] <A_Hungry_Shark> That's...alot smaller than I imagined, Bob
  1241. [2011-11-19 17:16:27] <HobNobbyBob> You're stamina, actually, is closer to 30% greater than your peak now, I'm sorry forgot to mention that one, it's at the bottom of the list, didn't see it.
  1242. [2011-11-19 17:16:28] <Arkeus> A_Hungry_Shark: it takes time
  1243. [2011-11-19 17:16:45] <Arkeus> That's cool
  1244. [2011-11-19 17:16:50] <A_Hungry_Shark> yip yip
  1245. [2011-11-19 17:16:52] <Guile> maybe that was talking with Amen that hurt us, but it sure read that way to me
  1246. [2011-11-19 17:16:53] <Wutenheimer> it's not actually been that long inquest
  1247. [2011-11-19 17:17:04] <Ironybot> 3% gains in a matter of a couple weeks in-game is huge. Think where we'll be in a year or two.
  1248. [2011-11-19 17:17:06] <A_Hungry_Shark> Yeah, a few months
  1249. [2011-11-19 17:17:10] <BUTTZ> We haven't done any strength training that abuses our regen power have we?
  1250. [2011-11-19 17:17:14] <Arkeus> Guile: our head was hurt five minutes before
  1251. [2011-11-19 17:17:17] <Arkeus> he took it out much later
  1252. [2011-11-19 17:17:24] <HobNobbyBob> you are also about... 270% more flexible than you were before your stealth training, with a third of those gains being made on the trip.
  1253. [2011-11-19 17:17:28] <Arkeus> and, yes, it was talking to amen
  1254. [2011-11-19 17:17:37] <A_Hungry_Shark> 270% holy fuck
  1255. [2011-11-19 17:17:39] <Arkeus> because my post about ordering amen to talk to us in realtime was susted
  1256. [2011-11-19 17:17:43] <HobNobbyBob> but you weren't at peak before
  1257. [2011-11-19 17:17:47] <BUTTZ> We're a Rubber Boy!
  1258. [2011-11-19 17:17:48] <HobNobbyBob> HUGE distinction
  1259. [2011-11-19 17:17:49] <Arkeus> Wow, NICE
  1260. [2011-11-19 17:17:53] <A_Hungry_Shark> That's still impressive
  1261. [2011-11-19 17:17:53] <Arkeus> Yeah
  1262. [2011-11-19 17:18:05] <Arkeus> mmh, were we at peak after stealth training?
  1263. [2011-11-19 17:18:07] <A_Hungry_Shark> But...are we at our peak flexibility now?
  1264. [2011-11-19 17:18:08] <Arkeus> or beyond peak?
  1265. [2011-11-19 17:18:14] <AlratanMobile> Will our growth in physical ability go faster the more supernatural meat/hearts we eat?
  1266. [2011-11-19 17:18:31] <Guile> peak flexibility for a non-contortionist type? peak for a man of our size and muscle mass?
  1267. [2011-11-19 17:18:41] <HobNobbyBob> Yes, you are now a shit grade contortionist, and you are not QUITE yet peak flexible, just 92, 95%. Those last few percent are damn near impossible to get mundanely.
  1268. [2011-11-19 17:18:55] <A_Hungry_Shark> >.<
  1269. [2011-11-19 17:19:06] <Wutenheimer> we have a reasonable amount of muscle mass. we will never be able to fit in one of those glass box things
  1270. [2011-11-19 17:19:08] <HobNobbyBob> peak for a man of your size, build, and proportions, with no magical alterations, merely mundane effort.
  1271. [2011-11-19 17:19:10] <Wutenheimer> too much muscle
  1272. [2011-11-19 17:19:30] <BUTTZ> Did Camella ask about Gleb?
  1273. [2011-11-19 17:19:41] <BUTTZ> What'd she want to know about one of the last Romanovs?
  1274. [2011-11-19 17:19:42] <Arkeus> Heh, so we were like 20% flexible?
  1275. [2011-11-19 17:19:43] <Guile> so to really get crazy on flexibility, we'd need that cartilaginous bone upgrade from whaitiri
  1276. [2011-11-19 17:19:47] <Arkeus> incredible improvement
  1277. [2011-11-19 17:19:51] <A_Hungry_Shark> Wait
  1278. [2011-11-19 17:20:04] <A_Hungry_Shark> If we got awesome flexibility...damn, we could learn the Weasel War Dance!
  1279. [2011-11-19 17:20:10] <AlratanMobile> Cartilaginous bone would be really bad
  1280. [2011-11-19 17:21:31] <Guile> Armas AND Sake do the weasel war dance. So crazy.
  1281. [2011-11-19 17:21:32] <A_Hungry_Shark> wigglewiggle
  1282. [2011-11-19 17:21:34] <A_Hungry_Shark> wiggle dem butts
  1283. [2011-11-19 17:21:34] <Arkeus> oh fod
  1284. [2011-11-19 17:21:38] <Arkeus> Weasel dance
  1285. [2011-11-19 17:21:48] <Arkeus> Must..learn
  1286.  
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  1288. 2011-11-19 17:20:32 <AlratanMobile> There's a reason that creatures that need to support their own weight don't have it
  1289. #
  1290. 2011-11-19 17:20:50 <AlratanMobile> I don't fancy being a puddle of flesh
  1291. #
  1292. 2011-11-19 17:21:06 <HobNobbyBob> +317.153 and a piece of cheese% Sheogorath rep.
  1293. #
  1294. 2011-11-19 17:21:16 <BUTTZ> And a ball of yarn
  1295. #
  1296. 2011-11-19 17:21:25 <Arkeus> Anyway, bob
  1297. #
  1298. 2011-11-19 17:21:32 <HobNobbyBob> Why not STRING CHEESE but what?
  1299. #
  1300. 2011-11-19 17:21:34 <BUTTZ> I wonder what kinds of weird-ass yarn Amen has in the house stores anyway
  1301. #
  1302. 2011-11-19 17:21:35 <Arkeus> Wouldn't it have been better to leave the soul in our eye?
  1303. #
  1304. 2011-11-19 17:21:38 <HobNobbyBob> because I really want to orc it up
  1305. #
  1306. 2011-11-19 17:21:48 <Guile> well, there's a type of bone that loses some density but is more flexible, we could do that instead. Or just improve the joints and not the bones directly
  1307. #
  1308. 2011-11-19 17:21:48 <AlratanMobile> I much prefer getting whatever the Redcaps have for bones and ligaments
  1309. #
  1310. 2011-11-19 17:22:00 <A_Hungry_Shark> We need to search for our video
  1311. #
  1312. 2011-11-19 17:22:06 <AlratanMobile> As they can move incredibly fast
  1313. #
  1314. 2011-11-19 17:22:07 <A_Hungry_Shark> Our Kyrppa Peiko video
  1315. #
  1316. 2011-11-19 17:22:27 <Arkeus> Ok then, let's ask this isntead: What had Camella heard about us?
  1317. #
  1318. 2011-11-19 17:22:28 <Guile> dont they do that with straight muscle? Kick off and rocket forward?
  1319. #
  1320. 2011-11-19 17:22:28 <BUTTZ> "The Best of Kyrppa Peiko: A ten-minute YouTube"
  1321. #
  1322. 2011-11-19 17:22:37 <Arkeus> She told us she had heard bad things about our trip
  1323. #
  1324. 2011-11-19 17:22:42 <Arkeus> what were those?
  1325. #
  1326. 2011-11-19 17:22:42 <A_Hungry_Shark> 'Hey Camella, remember when I told you of my little stunt while drunk on Weasel Wine? Now you get to see it!'
  1327. #
  1328. 2011-11-19 17:22:43 <Guile> we're a really obscure finnish youtube video
  1329. #
  1330. 2011-11-19 17:22:46 <BUTTZ> We TOLD her bad things Arkeus
  1331. #
  1332. 2011-11-19 17:22:47 <HobNobbyBob> Actually no, the charms will self distruct if the soul dissipates or gets to far away. That plus the blood being sealed before it could fully die and Amen making certain it stays quite lively like all its stored blood in the house, you technically still qualify, from the charms perspective, as having the charms on a living Reaper.
  1333. #
  1334. 2011-11-19 17:23:01 <BUTTZ> Hahah
  1335. #
  1336. 2011-11-19 17:23:03 <BUTTZ> Awesome
  1337. #
  1338. 2011-11-19 17:23:09 <Arkeus> .. so i was wrogn about that
  1339. #
  1340. 2011-11-19 17:23:11 <Arkeus> interesting
  1341. #
  1342. 2011-11-19 17:23:47 <Guile> well, goddammit, there goes that quest post, vanished into the internet
  1343. #
  1344. 2011-11-19 17:23:55 <Wutenheimer> wait, so if we keep him in our eye the charms will continue working?
  1345. #
  1346. 2011-11-19 17:24:03 <Arkeus> if we don't
  1347. #
  1348. 2011-11-19 17:24:17 <Guile> we'd need to keep his blood fresh and active somehow
  1349. #
  1350. 2011-11-19 17:24:18 <Arkeus> if we keep him in soul jar next to the charms
  1351. #
  1352. 2011-11-19 17:24:21 <Guile> in the rifle, maybe
  1353. #
  1354. 2011-11-19 17:24:26 <MrTT> ii don't like odd feelings in the eye
  1355. #
  1356. 2011-11-19 17:24:28 <MrTT> is he doing something?
  1357. #
  1358. 2011-11-19 17:24:32 <Guile> or bind him to the charms themselves
  1359. #
  1360. 2011-11-19 17:24:38 <MrTT> also, didn't we put him in a chrysilis?
  1361. #
  1362. 2011-11-19 17:24:42 <A_Hungry_Shark> Trying to break free of the chains, of course
  1363. #
  1364. 2011-11-19 17:24:45 <Arkeus> MrTT: i think it's our mind being broken
  1365. #
  1366. 2011-11-19 17:24:49 <AlratanMobile> Bind him and his living blood to the charms
  1367. #
  1368. 2011-11-19 17:24:50 <Arkeus> too much quick-talk to amen
  1369. #
  1370. 2011-11-19 17:24:55 <A_Hungry_Shark> ^YIP YP
  1371. #
  1372. 2011-11-19 17:24:57 <TMIoverload> I'm pretty sure the Charms have some sort of nasty side-effect to them
  1373. #
  1374. 2011-11-19 17:25:03 <AlratanMobile> Why do we keep quick talking?
  1375. #
  1376. 2011-11-19 17:25:13 <MrTT> we established that we always slow talk to him unless in combat didn't we
  1377. #
  1378. 2011-11-19 17:25:16 <TMIoverload> I'd rather sell it plus the stuff required for it to work to the Gobbos
  1379. #
  1380. 2011-11-19 17:25:17 <MrTT> I clearly remember doing that
  1381. #
  1382. 2011-11-19 17:25:17 <AlratanMobile> I said to talk to him not
  1383. #
  1384. 2011-11-19 17:25:27 <Guile> we were looking face to face with a russian
  1385. #
  1386. 2011-11-19 17:25:36 <Guile> it wouldve looked weird if we stared off into space for 5 minutes
  1387. #
  1388. 2011-11-19 17:25:46 <MrTT> WE CLEARLY stated that we do it anyways
  1389. #
  1390. 2011-11-19 17:25:54 <MrTT> strangers can go fuck themselves
  1391. #
  1392. 2011-11-19 17:26:03 <MrTT> friends we tell we are communicating telepathically
  1393. #
  1394. 2011-11-19 17:26:15 <MrTT> only if in combat or facing a potential hostile do we fast talk
  1395. #
  1396. 2011-11-19 17:26:18 <MrTT> we clearly stated all that
  1397. #
  1398. 2011-11-19 17:26:31 <MrTT> I posted it in quest and it got like 3 upvotes
  1399. #
  1400. 2011-11-19 17:26:35 <Arkeus> Guile: we could ahve called amen earlier
  1401. #
  1402. 2011-11-19 17:26:37 <A_Hungry_Shark> Still weird. That unfixated gaze...
  1403. #
  1404. 2011-11-19 17:26:40 <Arkeus> there ws no need to fast talk
  1405. #
  1406. 2011-11-19 17:27:13 <MrTT> "what looks vaguely like an overlarge chrysalis half the size of my palm. Now that I look at it, I can perceive the soul I claimed less than an hour ago dimly flitting about within. ...Damn, but Amen can be sly enacting things. "
  1407. #
  1408. 2011-11-19 17:27:15 <MrTT> there you go
  1409. #
  1410. 2011-11-19 17:27:28 <MrTT> the soul we claimed is imprisoned in a chrysalis in the mansion
  1411. #
  1412. 2011-11-19 17:27:29 <Guile> yeah, dont really care about fasttalk one way or the other. TMI- why would we give up the possibility of x20 speed with the charm backup to keep us from killing ourselves doing it, just on the hunch there might be a drawback based on the clock thing?
  1413. #
  1414. 2011-11-19 17:27:40 <A_Hungry_Shark> Wait a sec...if the Reaper\s soul is in our eye, and Amen can't see what's inside, just how the fuck did he take the soul out?
  1415. #
  1416. 2011-11-19 17:27:42 <MrTT> btw
  1417. #
  1418. 2011-11-19 17:27:54 <Arkeus> A_Hungry_Shark: we gave tacit permission
  1419. #
  1420. 2011-11-19 17:28:00 <MrTT> the charms explicitly SOLVE the problems with fast thinking
  1421. #
  1422. 2011-11-19 17:28:03 <BUTTZ> Bob did you answer the Gleb/Camella question already and I just missed it somehow?
  1423. #
  1424. 2011-11-19 17:28:08 <MrTT> 6 of the charms are nothing but support for the time dilation
  1425. #
  1426. 2011-11-19 17:28:13 <MrTT> one of which solves fast thinking issues
  1427. #
  1428. 2011-11-19 17:28:14 <Arkeus> <HobNobbyBob> It is. but you gave him permission to enter and perform a specific task. He's pissed he couldn't do OTHER stuff in there, like check what actually did happen in there with the Sisuthros blood, but what can a being made of coalesced hate slaved to a troll's will do?
  1429. #
  1430. 2011-11-19 17:28:20 <MrTT> WE NEED that charm replicated
  1431. #
  1432. 2011-11-19 17:28:28 <MrTT> that will allow us to fast talk with no harmful effects
  1433. #
  1434. 2011-11-19 17:28:31 <Guile> maybe it would temporally alter our soul again, but we'd only use it in the direst of dire situations
  1435. #
  1436. 2011-11-19 17:28:46 <AlratanMobile> Also, when I suggested we talk to Amen I explicitly said we should deal with the Russian first, and then speak in person
  1437. #
  1438. 2011-11-19 17:28:56 <MrTT> yes you did
  1439. #
  1440. 2011-11-19 17:29:16 <A_Hungry_Shark> and no Armas didn't do that
  1441. #
  1442. 2011-11-19 17:29:23 <MrTT> yes, he did not
  1443. #
  1444. 2011-11-19 17:29:29 <A_Hungry_Shark> :(
  1445. #
  1446. 2011-11-19 17:29:33 <MrTT> which is why our brain keeps on breaking
  1447. #
  1448. 2011-11-19 17:29:34 <Arkeus> I gotta love that i was the only one to post getting pimpy clothes, and 4 people SUSTED me
  1449. #
  1450. 2011-11-19 17:29:41 <Arkeus> Result? Armas get pimpy clothes
  1451. #
  1452. 2011-11-19 17:29:51 <A_Hungry_Shark> pimpin pimpin clothes
  1453. #
  1454. 2011-11-19 17:29:52 <MrTT> actually
  1455. #
  1456. 2011-11-19 17:29:57 <MrTT> Armas ASKED for normal clothes
  1457. #
  1458. 2011-11-19 17:30:02 <TMIoverload> Guile, fast talk will eventually turn us into a vegetable. As for the charms, it's not just a hunch. Time fuckery is, at minimum, bad for the sou;
  1459. #
  1460. 2011-11-19 17:30:03 <Arkeus> Not really
  1461. #
  1462. 2011-11-19 17:30:05 <MrTT> amen pimped them
  1463. #
  1464. 2011-11-19 17:30:12 <Arkeus> He thought about normal clothes, he laughed the idea off
  1465. #
  1466. 2011-11-19 17:30:17 <MrTT> armas did not say to make albino aligator boots or stuff like that
  1467. #
  1468. 2011-11-19 17:30:20 <Arkeus> He clearly wanted pimping clothes
  1469. #
  1470. 2011-11-19 17:30:21 <MrTT> maybe i misread
  1471. #
  1472. 2011-11-19 17:30:27 <MrTT> well, pimping is awesome
  1473. #
  1474. 2011-11-19 17:30:35 <MrTT> and we should always dress this good
  1475. #
  1476. 2011-11-19 17:30:56 <A_Hungry_Shark> Bob: Can the effects of fast talking with Amen be reversed, or will they...undo themselves if we stop doing it for a long time?
  1477. #
  1478. 2011-11-19 17:31:01 <Arkeus> I hang up, figuring I can try again later, as I consider Amen's question. I COULD go for something muted, conventional, inconspicuous andhahaha that's funny.
  1479. #
  1480. 2011-11-19 17:31:53 <TMIoverload> And if we only use it in the direst of situations, fuck that. It's valuable enough we could sell it for some grade A can use all the time shit
  1481. #
  1482. 2011-11-19 17:32:17 <A_Hungry_Shark> We need another way to communicate with people mentally
  1483. #
  1484. 2011-11-19 17:33:13 <A_Hungry_Shark> We need a better Phohn
  1485. #
  1486. 2011-11-19 17:33:39 <Arkeus> We need to improve our mental abilities, but, well...
  1487. #
  1488. 2011-11-19 17:34:06 <Arkeus> in other news, there is apparently an update tonight, so people should post
  1489. #
  1490. 2011-11-19 17:34:14 <Arkeus> going to sleep a couple of hours, and then i'll post myself
  1491. #
  1492. 2011-11-19 17:34:16 <Arkeus> laters
  1493. #
  1494. 2011-11-19 17:35:06 <HobNobbyBob> BUTTZ: RE: Gleb. She asked about the heart you made with Og's advice, you mentioned you won it from a big fat russian you met.
  1495. #
  1496. 2011-11-19 17:35:20 * A_Hungry_Shark snickers
  1497. #
  1498. 2011-11-19 17:35:51 <Guile> What is more prime grade than x20 speed? It is a 'fuck you' escape button second only to actually teleporting.
  1499. #
  1500. 2011-11-19 17:36:25 <Guile> Blackbeard will never again escape us
  1501. #
  1502. 2011-11-19 17:36:42 <HobNobbyBob> ...You kill the guy the Reapers rejected with stolen Reaper shit
  1503. #
  1504. 2011-11-19 17:36:47 <HobNobbyBob> That is so fucking Trolly
  1505. #
  1506. 2011-11-19 17:36:48 <A_Hungry_Shark> And we gain his BILLIONS OF DOLLARS and BILLIONS OF CHARMS
  1507. #
  1508. 2011-11-19 17:36:48 <Guile> and honestly I like it a lot more than, for example, pumping our soul and risking soul rupture
  1509. #
  1510. 2011-11-19 17:36:52 <HobNobbyBob> that's Armas right there.
  1511. #
  1512. 2011-11-19 17:37:06 <Guile> That WOULD be fun. Pretend to have joined the reapers, get a black bodysuit
  1513. #
  1514. 2011-11-19 17:37:11 <HobNobbyBob> Okay, last call for questions:
  1515. #
  1516. 2011-11-19 17:37:12 <Guile> "Hey Blackbeard. Guess what?"
  1517. #
  1518. 2011-11-19 17:37:12 <HobNobbyBob> GO
  1519. #
  1520. 2011-11-19 17:37:20 <A_Hungry_Shark> Bob: Can the effects of fast talking with Amen be reversed, or will they...undo themselves if we stop doing it for a long time?
  1521. #
  1522. 2011-11-19 17:37:37 <Guile> It's just a little brain damage. Armas heals good.
  1523. #
  1524. 2011-11-19 17:37:52 <HobNobbyBob> Depends on the symptom type, beyond that you don't get to know till you find a magic impact on brain specialist, good luck on that.
  1525. #
  1526. 2011-11-19 17:38:36 <A_Hungry_Shark> >.<
  1527. #
  1528. 2011-11-19 17:39:13 <A_Hungry_Shark> We really need to meet that Australian guy
  1529. #
  1530. 2011-11-19 17:39:29 * Samar_ is now known as Samar
  1531. #
  1532. 2011-11-19 17:39:31 <Guile> I favor that, myself
  1533. #
  1534. 2011-11-19 17:39:54 <Guile> although TT did make a good case for induced savantism only being good in short bursts
  1535. #
  1536. 2011-11-19 17:40:02 <Guile> or for specific things
  1537. #
  1538. 2011-11-19 17:40:03 <TMIoverload> Guile, no, it's not just brain damage. The big three parts of you that can be injured are Mind, Soul, and Flesh, hence each having a -less version. This is probably causing mind damage. We heal flesh normally and need hearts for the soul, so far we have no idea if we can heal mind damage
  1539. #
  1540. 2011-11-19 17:40:21 <Guile> ... brains? wait, no, terrible idea
  1541. #
  1542. 2011-11-19 17:40:30 <Guile> We'll end up with Magical Creutzfeld-Jakobs
  1543. #
  1544. 2011-11-19 17:40:32 <A_Hungry_Shark> Mad cow disease
  1545. #
  1546. 2011-11-19 17:40:40 <A_Hungry_Shark> Mad Armas disease
  1547. #
  1548. 2011-11-19 17:41:39 <Guile> still, being able to calculate numbers in an instant, have perfect recall, and half a dozen other things seems worthwhile to pursue
  1549. #
  1550. 2011-11-19 17:41:59 <Guile> we'd just need to volunteer for a little experimental electro-neurological surgery!
  1551. #
  1552. 2011-11-19 17:42:03 <Captain-Lightning> ?gfh
  1553. #
  1554. 2011-11-19 17:42:03 <Classhole> http://tgchan.org/kusaba/quest/res/360354+50.html
  1555. #
  1556. 2011-11-19 17:42:23 <A_Hungry_Shark> Soon, Quantum Computation
  1557. #
  1558. 2011-11-19 17:42:39 <AlratanMobile> Rereading the update, none of the safeguards around Amen orders we gave were used
  1559. #
  1560. 2011-11-19 17:42:44 <Guile> it is a bit like being Bang-lite
  1561. #
  1562. 2011-11-19 17:43:01 <Guile> except our regen is vastly inferior
  1563. #
  1564. 2011-11-19 17:45:43 <ManOfTroy> And Bang isn't Made of Troll
  1565. #
  1566. 2011-11-19 17:45:46 <ManOfTroy> ...huh.
  1567. #
  1568. 2011-11-19 17:46:08 <ManOfTroy> We really should have focused in turning Armas into an actual human/troll hybird.
  1569. #
  1570. 2011-11-19 17:47:35 <Guile> that was TT's big plan
  1571. #
  1572. 2011-11-19 17:47:39 <Guile> besides the dragon thing
  1573. #
  1574. 2011-11-19 17:49:06 <ManOfTroy> Should have agreed witht hat more. Oh well.
  1575. #
  1576. 2011-11-19 17:49:33 <ManOfTroy> Should have also found where Guido Fawkes was burried and make hsi skull/face into a mask.
  1577. #
  1578. 2011-11-19 17:49:39 <ManOfTroy> Become the god of Trolls.
  1579. #
  1580. 2011-11-19 17:52:06 <AlratanMobile> Trolling, like all bullying, only works when you're much more powerful than your victim, or have some other way of completely avoiding payback
  1581. #
  1582. 2011-11-19 17:52:31 <AlratanMobile> As Bob often tries to point out
  1583. #
  1584. 2011-11-19 17:52:41 <AlratanMobile> Armas isn't actually all that
  1585. #
  1586. 2011-11-19 17:53:29 <AlratanMobile> So trolling is likely to result in him being squished like a pimple when he chooses someone who is stronger than they appear
  1587. #
  1588. 2011-11-19 17:53:32 <ManOfTroy> Well, of course. But if we become the god of Trolling.
  1589. #
  1590. 2011-11-19 17:54:05 <ManOfTroy> Also, did bob confirm or deny that we just locked ourselves out of ever using the Mere, the Charms, or the gunparts?
  1591. #
  1592. 2011-11-19 17:54:36 <AlratanMobile> ?
  1593. #
  1594. 2011-11-19 17:54:37 <A_Hungry_Shark> Wait what?
  1595. #
  1596. 2011-11-19 17:55:00 <ManOfTroy> "Don't let anyone, including yourself, touch or otherwise interact with any of these items"
  1597.  
  1598. [2011-11-19 17:28:08] <Ironybot> So... other topics. How much did we tell Camella about Grigori, an actual wizard?
  1599. [2011-11-19 17:55:01] -->| YOU (Ironybot) have joined #golemquest
  1600. [2011-11-19 17:55:01] =-= Topic for #golemquest is ``Current thread: http://goo.gl/coZQj | Disc Thread: http://goo.gl/p0wsG | Wiki: http://goo.gl/LB2hZ | Guns: http://goo.gl/LEhh5 | Guns Disc: http://goo.gl/7Tq3r | Dreamer: http://goo.gl/PeLnk || http://goo.gl/U3JE3''
  1601. [2011-11-19 17:55:01] =-= Topic for #golemquest was set by ChicagoTed on Sunday, August 14, 2011 3:05:00 AM
  1602. [2011-11-19 17:55:10] <ManOfTroy> "Don't let anyone, including yourself, touch or otherwise interact with any of these items"
  1603. [2011-11-19 17:55:20] <Ironybot> I don't suppose I could get a log of the last forty minutes or so of chat?
  1604. [2011-11-19 17:55:47] <A_Hungry_Shark> Ask MrTT, Irony
  1605. [2011-11-19 17:55:58] <AlratanMobile> Troy, yeah, we've just screwed ourself big time
  1606. [2011-11-19 17:56:28] <ManOfTroy> Ok. Just making sure.
  1607. [2011-11-19 17:56:45] <AlratanMobile> Bob hadn't confirmed that yet
  1608. [2011-11-19 17:57:56] <MrTT> someone said my name?
  1609. [2011-11-19 17:58:17] |<-- HobNobbyBob has left irc.rizon.net (Quit: http://www.mibbit.com ajax IRC Client)
  1610. [2011-11-19 17:58:24] <Ironybot> Apparently you are the go-to person for getting chat excerpts missed due to connection problems.
  1611. [2011-11-19 17:58:50] <AlratanMobile> Well, posted
  1612. [2011-11-19 18:00:17] <AlratanMobile> And good night
  1613. [2011-11-19 18:00:42] <ManOfTroy> Also, have I missed any Russian playing?
  1614. [2011-11-19 18:00:52] <MrTT> ah, yes
  1615. [2011-11-19 18:00:54] <MrTT> i log everything
  1616. [2011-11-19 18:01:02] <MrTT> gimme some dates
  1617. [2011-11-19 18:01:05] <MrTT> and times
  1618. [2011-11-19 18:01:10] <MrTT> also, my time is 6pm, what is yours?
  1619. [2011-11-19 18:01:11] <Ironybot> All I need is the last forty minutes or so.
  1620. [2011-11-19 18:01:20] <Ironybot> Probably forty-five, now.
  1621. [2011-11-19 18:01:45] <MrTT> whats the name of the site where you drop irc logs? i forgot
  1622. [2011-11-19 18:01:50] <Ironybot> Pastebin?
  1623. [2011-11-19 18:02:15] <Guile> I dont think we named the russian
  1624. [2011-11-19 18:02:23] <MrTT> yes
  1625. [2011-11-19 18:02:25] <MrTT> pastebin
  1626. [2011-11-19 18:02:58] <MrTT> ironybot named that russia Satai, posted it in questdis
  1627. [2011-11-19 18:04:12] <MrTT> http://pastebin.com/gpCSkBZv
  1628. [2011-11-19 18:04:33] <Ironybot> Thank you.
  1629. [2011-11-19 18:05:13] <ManOfTroy> I will look at this!
  1630. [2011-11-19 18:08:31] |<-- A_Hungry_Shark has left irc.rizon.net (Quit: http://www.mibbit.com ajax IRC Client)
  1631. [2011-11-19 18:12:57] <Ironybot> All right. Damn, Bob is gone and with him the opportunity to ask further questions.
  1632. [2011-11-19 18:13:15] <ManOfTroy> It happens
  1633. [2011-11-19 18:13:52] <Ironybot> Yes, but it happened specifically when I was having connection issues so I feel somehow robbed.
  1634. [2011-11-19 18:15:41] <mib_04yhkt> There will be two updates today
  1635. [2011-11-19 18:37:28] -->| Shifter43 (~Scrambled@Rizon-828C964C.lnse2.cht.bigpond.net.au) has joined #golemquest
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  1637. [2011-11-19 18:38:08] <Guile> I love how Batman has the Batjet blast into the Titan facility, all to drop him off some little bat gadget to get him across a ravine. It never occurs to him to just, you know, leave in the jet. And then use it to gun the Joker down the next time they meet
  1638. [2011-11-19 18:38:24] <Guile> <-- just discovered Arkham Asylum
  1639. [2011-11-19 18:44:40] <mib_04yhkt> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JmqNMc0IDWE
  1640. [2011-11-19 18:44:42] <Classhole> mib_04yhkt: Joker shoots down the Batwing, 1989! - length 1m 17s - rated 4.95/5.0 (158) - 49750 views - meetyouthere on 2007.12.24
  1641. [2011-11-19 18:44:43] <mib_04yhkt> That's why
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  1643. [2011-11-19 18:46:16] <Shifter43> He's more like the incarnation of a trickster god than a man if the comics are to be believed...
  1644. [2011-11-19 18:47:21] <Ironybot> So Whaitiri is a goddess of cannibalism: Would she rise in power if cannibalism became mainstream? Should we be trying to make it publicly acceptable for people to eat other people, so that Whaitiri and by extension us become stronger?
  1645. [2011-11-19 18:47:29] <Ironybot> In the long term, that is.
  1646. [2011-11-19 18:48:15] <A_Shameful_Serpent> It's gonna be difficult as fuck
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  1648. [2011-11-19 18:52:10] <Guile> Human: the other white meat
  1649. [2011-11-19 18:52:45] <Guile> also, grail - that clip is absurd
  1650. [2011-11-19 18:53:01] <Guile> but apropriate
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  1653. [2011-11-19 19:03:41] <BUTTZ> Soylent Green
  1654. [2011-11-19 19:03:46] <BUTTZ> It's what's for dinner
  1655. [2011-11-19 19:06:01] <Ironybot> The whole belief thing makes me think that gods must fight bitter wars for media influence. Trying to determine what's mainstream, what to push into the public consciousness.
  1656. [2011-11-19 19:09:57] <ManOfTroy> Guile, Human is the other-other white meat.
  1657. [2011-11-19 19:11:17] <BUTTZ> There's a reason they call it long pig
  1658. [2011-11-19 19:12:21] <mib_04yhkt> If only we could figure out what the Norse gods did
  1659. [2011-11-19 19:12:46] <mib_04yhkt> We could find a way for cannibal gods to feed off of belief from food, hunger, and consumption.
  1660. [2011-11-19 19:12:52] <mib_04yhkt> America would become one giant battery
  1661. [2011-11-19 19:12:53] <ManOfTroy> Mhm.
  1662. [2011-11-19 19:12:54] <ManOfTroy> Longpig.
  1663. [2011-11-19 19:13:26] <Doppelshifter> It's not like most people would know the difference in taste.
  1664. [2011-11-19 19:13:29] <BUTTZ> The Norse Gods tied their whole mythos up with being prepared for the final war
  1665. [2011-11-19 19:13:35] <BUTTZ> That's probably how
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  1667. [2011-11-19 19:13:43] <ManOfTroy> Anyway, I think that it wouldn't directly give power to Whaitiri, as on the power-grid of cannibal gods, I think she's pretty low.
  1668. [2011-11-19 19:13:47] <BUTTZ> All war trains warriors for the final war
  1669. [2011-11-19 19:13:56] <Ironybot> How big is the power grid of cannibal gods?
  1670. [2011-11-19 19:14:15] <BUTTZ> There were some major players for cannibal gods way back
  1671. [2011-11-19 19:14:15] <Ironybot> Rather, how many gods draw on it? I can't think of many.
  1672. [2011-11-19 19:14:17] <mib_04yhkt> Fairly small
  1673. [2011-11-19 19:14:24] <BUTTZ> Look at all of Mesoamerica
  1674. [2011-11-19 19:14:41] <BUTTZ> Most of the major players were, in addition to their other portfolios, cannibals
  1675. [2011-11-19 19:15:09] <BUTTZ> Most of the early gods were, really. It's a simple and effective way to move power around.
  1676. [2011-11-19 19:17:30] <Ironybot> I wonder how the whole specialized reverse cannibalism thing from Christianity works.
  1677. [2011-11-19 19:17:58] <BUTTZ> I asked Bob about that earlier
  1678. [2011-11-19 19:18:06] <Ironybot> "Eat little bits of your god and he'll accept you" is a pretty fucked up dogma.
  1679. [2011-11-19 19:18:17] <A_Shameful_Serpent> Will there be another update later?
  1680. [2011-11-19 19:18:21] <mib_04yhkt> Yes
  1681. [2011-11-19 19:18:22] <Ironybot> That's the rumor.
  1682. [2011-11-19 19:18:44] <Samar> Bob mentioned something about if we actually believed it to be the flesh and blood, it would be real
  1683. [2011-11-19 19:18:49] <Samar> and second update is not a rumor
  1684. [2011-11-19 19:18:53] <Samar> bob said it was going to be
  1685. [2011-11-19 19:19:24] <A_Shameful_Serpent> Oh goody
  1686. [2011-11-19 19:21:16] <ManOfTroy> Yeah, there is Jesus' Communion.
  1687. [2011-11-19 19:22:57] <Ironybot> So wait, if we believe it hard enough, then we can chow on god-flesh for free at any church?
  1688. [2011-11-19 19:23:36] <ManOfTroy> But I was thinking of the two frost-cannibal gods of North america, the South America gods, Chronos, a few witch-gods, Dionysous and, with that 'eat your god and he'll except you', Jesus. I know I'm missing some egyptian gods, soem mesopotiam gods, and a whole slew of eastern gods, but those are the ones off the top of my head
  1689. [2011-11-19 19:23:56] <Shifter42> The god isn't exactly going to take it standing down you know.
  1690. [2011-11-19 19:24:17] <ManOfTroy> Which god?
  1691. [2011-11-19 19:24:22] <ManOfTroy> We -do- have a lot of them
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  1693. [2011-11-19 19:26:55] <Guile> Jesus was getting up to something pretty crazy with his whole rebirth as a mortal thing, I gather, before Judas killed him
  1694. [2011-11-19 19:27:05] <ManOfTroy> Damn.
  1695. [2011-11-19 19:27:11] <ManOfTroy> Well, God Checker only lists 8.
  1696. [2011-11-19 19:27:16] <Guile> Some of the aborigine gods are cannibals too, I think
  1697. [2011-11-19 19:27:23] <Guile> God Checker?
  1698. [2011-11-19 19:27:27] <ManOfTroy> Yeah, that too
  1699. [2011-11-19 19:27:41] <ManOfTroy> http://www.godchecker.com/
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  1702. [2011-11-19 19:28:27] <Ironybot> Actually, reading through the text of what they say before giving out Communion with a Guns for Hire eye, it's basically an explicit contract between the god and the mortal. The mortal gives belief to the god, and the god gives them his flesh and "life everlasting", presumably meaning taking their soul after they die and not doing anything nasty to it.
  1703. [2011-11-19 19:29:46] <Ironybot> The phrase "do this in remembrance of me" is VERY clear about requiring Belief.
  1704. [2011-11-19 19:30:41] <Guile> of course, 'life everlasting' could be twisted to mean 'life everlasting in me', i.e. eating it
  1705. [2011-11-19 19:31:01] <Guile> or lashing together some kinda soul engine like Mordre's eden
  1706. [2011-11-19 19:31:31] <ManOfTroy> ...
  1707. [2011-11-19 19:31:39] <ManOfTroy> Wait, wait, you're saying that Jesus is Mordre?
  1708. [2011-11-19 19:31:41] <ManOfTroy> AWESOME!
  1709. [2011-11-19 19:33:00] <MrTT> no, jesus is a copycat
  1710. [2011-11-19 19:33:03] <MrTT> copying mordre
  1711. [2011-11-19 19:33:08] <mib_04yhkt> There are more gods of chocolate than gods of cannibalism
  1712. [2011-11-19 19:33:09] <MrTT> and not nearly as awesome
  1713. [2011-11-19 19:33:15] <MrTT> ...
  1714. [2011-11-19 19:33:17] <ManOfTroy> No, no, Jesus was actually One of Mordre's many Bodies.
  1715. [2011-11-19 19:33:24] <MrTT> oh god i am visualizing whaitiri goddess of chocolate
  1716. [2011-11-19 19:33:24] <ManOfTroy> Yes, there are.
  1717. [2011-11-19 19:33:38] <ManOfTroy> Well, Chocolate and Blood go togeather from ancent days
  1718. [2011-11-19 19:33:43] <mib_04yhkt> Whaitiri needs to eat a goddess of chocolate...
  1719. [2011-11-19 19:33:45] <mib_04yhkt> Actually
  1720. [2011-11-19 19:33:55] <MrTT> we need to eat a goddess of chocolate... eat out\]
  1721. [2011-11-19 19:33:55] <mib_04yhkt> That would be the perfect gift for a cannibal goddess
  1722. [2011-11-19 19:34:05] <MrTT> as in sex
  1723. [2011-11-19 19:34:11] <ManOfTroy> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pyramid_Texts
  1724. [2011-11-19 19:34:11] <mib_04yhkt> Too good for actual chocolates
  1725. [2011-11-19 19:34:20] <mib_04yhkt> Get her a box of chocolate gods
  1726. [2011-11-19 19:34:35] <ManOfTroy> I didn't know the Phaeros were big on the whole Cannibal thing...
  1727. [2011-11-19 19:36:36] <ManOfTroy> And speaking of Chocolate Gods, aren't most of them Mesoamericans?
  1728. [2011-11-19 19:36:52] <ManOfTroy> Who, you know, would eat her right back, possibly harder and more violently?
  1729. [2011-11-19 19:36:58] <mib_04yhkt> Actually surprisingly it's less than half
  1730. [2011-11-19 19:37:30] <ManOfTroy> Really? Wow!
  1731. [2011-11-19 19:37:34] <ManOfTroy> Will check up on that.
  1732. [2011-11-19 19:37:38] <mib_04yhkt> Mostly gods only tangentially related to chocolate with overwhelming focus on other things
  1733. [2011-11-19 19:37:42] <mib_04yhkt> A lot of greek gods
  1734. [2011-11-19 19:37:45] <Ironybot> Armas should employ someone to make a compulsively addictive facebook game featuring Whaitiri, in which she devours all her enemies while spouting catchy-but-creepily-cannibalistic lines.
  1735. [2011-11-19 19:37:49] <mib_04yhkt> They actually list thanatos and eros
  1736. [2011-11-19 19:37:52] <mib_04yhkt> Death and love
  1737. [2011-11-19 19:38:42] <ManOfTroy> Wait, the greeks had chocolate?
  1738. [2011-11-19 19:39:14] <mib_04yhkt> I'd imagine
  1739. [2011-11-19 19:39:39] <mib_04yhkt> At least the site somehow lists them as having gods associated with chocolate
  1740. [2011-11-19 19:39:50] <ManOfTroy> That's confusing.
  1741. [2011-11-19 19:40:23] <mib_04yhkt> So if we want to feed her a god of chocolate
  1742. [2011-11-19 19:40:46] <mib_04yhkt> There's a fox god, but he invented carob so he's not really a chocolate god
  1743. [2011-11-19 19:41:33] <Ironybot> Hmm. I wonder, could we run around finding old and now-weak gods, and then somehow feeding them to Whaitiri?
  1744. [2011-11-19 19:41:34] <mib_04yhkt> And a god of merchants, conflict, and patron of chocolate
  1745. [2011-11-19 19:41:46] <Ironybot> God hunting: The new most dangerous game.
  1746. [2011-11-19 19:41:50] <ManOfTroy> Yeah, there aren't many of those greek gods that are gods
  1747. [2011-11-19 19:44:42] <ManOfTroy> Oh, also, they're not listing Quetzalcoatl as a god, and he might be the one that brought it with him.
  1748. [2011-11-19 19:45:34] <mib_04yhkt> Ogo the Pale Fox
  1749. [2011-11-19 19:45:39] <mib_04yhkt> We do not want to tangle with him
  1750. [2011-11-19 19:45:49] <ManOfTroy> Oh, but we will.
  1751. [2011-11-19 19:46:08] <mib_04yhkt> Somehow he's the most terrifying of the cannibal gods they have listed
  1752. [2011-11-19 19:46:54] <mib_04yhkt> Actually he's not a cannibal god
  1753. [2011-11-19 19:47:00] <mib_04yhkt> But a terrible trickster god
  1754. [2011-11-19 19:47:12] <ManOfTroy> And, the detail i wanted to find!
  1755. [2011-11-19 19:47:21] <ManOfTroy> Chocolate has always meant 'the Heart, the Blood'
  1756. [2011-11-19 19:48:33] <ManOfTroy> in yollohtli, in eztli is the Nahuatl word/phrase for 'Cacao' or chocolate.
  1757. [2011-11-19 19:49:50] <ManOfTroy> Also, don't forget that chocolate is one of the major items you gift Loa in rituals. Rum, flesh/blood and chocolate.
  1758. [2011-11-19 19:50:27] <mib_04yhkt> Armas needs to start experimenting with chocolate magic
  1759. [2011-11-19 19:50:56] <Ironybot> He will eventually learn it as part of becoming a master chef, I'd guess.
  1760. [2011-11-19 19:51:12] <ManOfTroy> And don't forget that the Jesuits controlled/do control the chocolate trade out of south America, and were rather famous for killing people with it.
  1761. [2011-11-19 19:51:58] <ManOfTroy> Which is quite intresting, considering that the Jesuits were known for meditating on 'The Sacred heart'.
  1762. [2011-11-19 19:56:10] <ManOfTroy> Although, modern Chocolate is controlled by the swiss. The swiss, of course, banned the Jesuits when the Swiss became a nation, right around the time chocolate came into the hands of the masses rather then the few.
  1763. [2011-11-19 19:59:08] <ManOfTroy> And that concludes me translating Ken Hites words to you. If you want more, look into the Suppressed Transmissions as published by SJGames.
  1764. [2011-11-19 20:01:16] <ManOfTroy> And I agree with the MiB and irony, we should get into Chocolate Magic as we become a Chef Mage.
  1765. [2011-11-19 20:05:50] <Ironybot> I suspect that a wizard might be able to give us a chef-ing contract. After all, at a wild guess the number of wizards who cook magical superfood is... zero.
  1766. [2011-11-19 20:06:03] <Ironybot> It's a powerset that they will never, ever use.
  1767. [2011-11-19 20:06:08] <Ironybot> Why not give it away?
  1768. [2011-11-19 20:07:49] <MrTT> ?gfh
  1769. [2011-11-19 20:07:49] <Classhole> http://tgchan.org/kusaba/quest/res/360354+50.html
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  1771. [2011-11-19 20:08:55] <ManOfTroy> I keep trying to get Bob to bump that number up to 1, but oh well.
  1772. [2011-11-19 20:09:16] <ManOfTroy> Because, really, Chairman Kaga is a mage.
  1773. [2011-11-19 20:10:41] <Ironybot> Also, I'm pretty sure that if we got a chefing wizard contract we would pretty much instantly become potentially one of the best chefs on the planet, giving us a perfect skillset to get an in with the Owner.
  1774. [2011-11-19 20:11:56] <ManOfTroy> Bah! Why would we need him? >BECOME BEST CHEF EVER! >RULE WORLD!
  1775. [2011-11-19 20:12:01] <ManOfTroy> mmhm.
  1776. [2011-11-19 20:12:19] <MrTT> armas can just PRACTICE
  1777. [2011-11-19 20:12:25] <MrTT> he has ETERNITY to practice chefing
  1778. [2011-11-19 20:12:33] <MrTT> wizard contracts should go towards powers
  1779. [2011-11-19 20:12:35] <MrTT> real powers
  1780. [2011-11-19 20:12:38] <Ironybot> When was Armas ever willing to take the long route?
  1781. [2011-11-19 20:12:48] <Ironybot> Also, how is magical chefery not a real power?
  1782. [2011-11-19 20:12:58] <MrTT> unless of course we wrangle it out of a wizard for free... like the "conjure drinks" contract we wanted from the mad drunk
  1783. [2011-11-19 20:13:01] <ManOfTroy> If we -do- do that, I don't doubt we could easily get some cooking contracts from people of power and we could make sure their Soufflé mind control them.
  1784. [2011-11-19 20:13:04] <MrTT> to conjure him drinks he doesn't know
  1785. [2011-11-19 20:13:33] <MrTT> well, it is really a matter of what is covered by chefery
  1786. [2011-11-19 20:13:36] <MrTT> otherwise its broken as fuck
  1787. [2011-11-19 20:13:47] <ManOfTroy> >Magic
  1788. [2011-11-19 20:13:51] <ManOfTroy> >Not broken as fuck
  1789. [2011-11-19 20:14:00] <ManOfTroy> Did you expect something different?
  1790. [2011-11-19 20:14:12] <MrTT> like in "conjure any drink" ... "I conjure a drink of mad dragon, its 1 shot vodka in a pint of dragon blood"
  1791. [2011-11-19 20:14:35] <MrTT> alcoholic blood of my enemy
  1792. [2011-11-19 20:14:40] <ManOfTroy> Yeah.
  1793. [2011-11-19 20:14:41] <MrTT> to give amen
  1794. [2011-11-19 20:14:42] <MrTT> etc
  1795. [2011-11-19 20:14:47] <ManOfTroy> Yeah.
  1796. [2011-11-19 20:14:51] <ManOfTroy> that's not broken, that's just a good drink
  1797. [2011-11-19 20:14:57] <MrTT> lol :)
  1798. [2011-11-19 20:15:29] <ManOfTroy> Honestly, it isn't really broken. It's how we use it that's broken.
  1799. [2011-11-19 20:15:39] <MrTT> of course you can limit it to mundane drinks... but we can then go... ok, I conjure 10 tons of everclear
  1800. [2011-11-19 20:15:46] <MrTT> thats 95% alcohol
  1801. [2011-11-19 20:15:51] <MrTT> its a bomb not a drink
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  1803. [2011-11-19 20:15:58] <MrTT> and with 10 tons of it, it is a LARGE bomb
  1804. [2011-11-19 20:16:07] <ManOfTroy> Why -didn't- we get that drinking contract again?
  1805. [2011-11-19 20:16:17] <MrTT> because some asshole cut off our arm
  1806. [2011-11-19 20:16:28] <MrTT> and when we teleported to valk estate we were passed out for days
  1807. [2011-11-19 20:16:40] <MrTT> during which grigori got BORED and left the valkonen estate
  1808. [2011-11-19 20:16:48] <MrTT> when we woke up he was gone
  1809. [2011-11-19 20:17:15] <Ironybot> We weren't aggressive enough in our pursuit of power, basically. We should have come up with a way to ask him as soon as we got the idea, instead of delaying for the right moment.
  1810. [2011-11-19 20:17:20] <MrTT> well, actually grigori just left immediately, but still...
  1811. [2011-11-19 20:17:40] <MrTT> asking in the wrong moment though would ruin it
  1812. [2011-11-19 20:17:40] <ManOfTroy> Well, we need to be faster with ideas then
  1813. [2011-11-19 20:17:45] <MrTT> but yea we should have asked earlier
  1814. [2011-11-19 20:17:55] <Ironybot> We were very fast with the idea. We just didn't act on it.
  1815. [2011-11-19 20:17:57] <MrTT> like, "you said you don't like conjuring your own drinks, what if someone else conjures them for you?"
  1816. [2011-11-19 20:18:21] <ManOfTroy> Yeah, we should have done that.
  1817. [2011-11-19 20:18:29] <MrTT> of course the problem with that is that, after a while he will either be bored of the drinks armas conjures, or we seperate... in which case he just recalls the contract and gives it to someone else
  1818. [2011-11-19 20:18:52] <ManOfTroy> How can you get bored with -Armas- drinks?
  1819. [2011-11-19 20:18:57] <MrTT> so we should have levered to conjure up as much drinks of the "mad dragon" type while we had time to
  1820. [2011-11-19 20:19:10] <MrTT> levereged not levered
  1821. [2011-11-19 20:22:24] <MrTT> skyrimjob
  1822. [2011-11-19 20:26:52] <ManOfTroy> ...I hate you, TT.
  1823. [2011-11-19 20:26:53] <ManOfTroy> I really do
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  1832. [2011-11-19 20:48:08] <Arkeus> ] <TMIoverload> Guile, no, it's not just brain damage. The big three parts of you that can be injured are Mind, Soul, and Flesh, hence each having a -less version. This is probably causing mind damage. We heal flesh normally and need hearts for the soul, so far we have no idea if we can heal mind damage <= Amen did say we healed mind amage
  1833. [2011-11-19 20:48:21] <Arkeus> however, he migh have been talking to specific kinds of mind damage
  1834. [2011-11-19 20:49:56] <TMIoverload> Our healing is tied to what we believe is our natural state too. If mental damage happens too quick, Armas' perception of himself could very well change to accommodate that. And we're using th fast talk thing all the damn time
  1835. [2011-11-19 20:50:07] <Shifter42> We healed BRAIN damage, which is part of the flesh.
  1836. [2011-11-19 20:51:21] <Shifter42> The flesh is hardware, the mind is software, and the soul is the OS.
  1837. [2011-11-19 20:51:26] <TMIoverload> And if we end up a vegetable, we don't perceive ourself as anything, so goodybye any healing
  1838. [2011-11-19 20:51:37] <Arkeus> <TMIoverload> Our healing is tied to what we believe is our natural state too. If mental damage happens too quick, Armas' perception of himself could very well change to accommodate that. And we're using th fast talk thing all the damn time <= yes, that's my problem
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  1840. [2011-11-19 20:52:39] <TMIoverload> Oh, I wonder if Amen wants to be unbound. Back on the boat he seemed sort of paniced when we were going towards the bridge when we asked his thoughts
  1841. [2011-11-19 20:54:03] <InsufferableMystic> Binding makes him mad but he has ego, unbound he'll have no persona and just be a pure hate engine, that or die explosively
  1842. [2011-11-19 20:54:03] <Guile_> I could see him being of two minds on the subject. On the one hand, he hates all things - including us, so he tries to kill us, which will set him free. But I would think he'd prefer being sentient to not, and thats due to the contract and being bound, somehow
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  1844. [2011-11-19 20:54:38] <ManOfTroy> It's a hate machine. I don't think it cares either way.
  1845. [2011-11-19 20:55:01] <ManOfTroy> I'm pretty sure it just didn't want to have that part of itself eaten by a blood-based monster.
  1846. [2011-11-19 20:55:03] <Ironybot> Is his binding all that lets him have ego, still?
  1847. [2011-11-19 20:55:08] <A_Shameful_Serpent> back
  1848. [2011-11-19 20:55:09] <TheBeardiestBob> speaking of hate
  1849. [2011-11-19 20:55:12] <A_Shameful_Serpent> Hey there, Tim, Bob
  1850. [2011-11-19 20:55:30] <Ironybot> One would think that then his highest priority would be to arrange for a method of retaining his ego even if the bindings were loosed, before trying to loose them.
  1851. [2011-11-19 20:55:37] <TheBeardiestBob> You should make Amen wear frilly dresses
  1852. [2011-11-19 20:55:46] <A_Shameful_Serpent> Maid dresses
  1853. [2011-11-19 20:55:50] <TMIoverload> While he still has no gender?
  1854. [2011-11-19 20:55:51] <TheBeardiestBob> and act painfully foppish
  1855. [2011-11-19 20:55:54] <TheBeardiestBob> yes
  1856. [2011-11-19 20:55:57] <Guile_> hard to imagine a sentient being preferring to go back to being run on instinct
  1857. [2011-11-19 20:56:09] <Ironybot> Why would Amen care what we make him wear? He's a sufficiently alien being that I would expect it to all be mostly the same to him.
  1858. [2011-11-19 20:56:16] <A_Shameful_Serpent> Amen, turn into a female. Good, now put on this dress, and divide.
  1859. [2011-11-19 20:56:21] <InsufferableMystic> Now there is a thought which is worse, fop Amen or female Amen
  1860. [2011-11-19 20:56:50] <TheBeardiestBob> Because Amen's been shaped by both its bindings and by its owners over the years
  1861. [2011-11-19 20:56:58] <TMIoverload> Irony, he's also made up of the psyches' of the practitioners who made him. Probably has some sense of dignity and all that
  1862. [2011-11-19 20:56:59] <ManOfTroy> Wait, what was that about us beign a pimp?
  1863. [2011-11-19 20:57:34] <ManOfTroy> Because if Bob suggested us pimping out Amen...well, I think that's the most evil thing we could ever do.
  1864. [2011-11-19 20:57:39] <InsufferableMystic> and by its owners over the years" SO kindness to amen without leaving ourselves open to attack will have a small effect then
  1865. [2011-11-19 20:57:39] <A_Shameful_Serpent> You must always refer to me as 'Master Armas', and must say it in a suggestive tone
  1866. [2011-11-19 20:57:52] <ManOfTroy> OH! I know how we can top Big Crazies 'I knocked over Markku' line!
  1867. [2011-11-19 20:57:57] <A_Shameful_Serpent> 'Yes, Master Armas~!'
  1868. [2011-11-19 20:58:07] <BUTTZ> We should force Amen to watch animes
  1869. [2011-11-19 20:58:08] <Ironybot> That would creep EVERYONE the fuck out.
  1870. [2011-11-19 20:58:10] <BUTTZ> All animes, all day
  1871. [2011-11-19 20:58:24] <BUTTZ> "Do that nosebleed thing again Amen"
  1872. [2011-11-19 20:58:33] <Guile_> Congrats Serpent, you managed to make this whole line of thought worse
  1873. [2011-11-19 20:58:34] <ManOfTroy> Buttz, you fucking madman, that includes Black Bible, Evangelion, and...
  1874. [2011-11-19 20:58:44] <TheBeardiestBob> ....Well, here I thought I was getting good at predicting you guys
  1875. [2011-11-19 20:58:45] <ManOfTroy> La Blue Girl, and...
  1876. [2011-11-19 20:58:48] <TheBeardiestBob> then nope, Otaku Amen
  1877. [2011-11-19 20:58:50] <ManOfTroy> What?
  1878. [2011-11-19 20:58:59] <A_Shameful_Serpent> It's never been nice. It'll never be nice. So, why don't we drive it RIGHT FUCKING DOWN THE MADNESS ROAD
  1879. [2011-11-19 20:59:02] <ManOfTroy> otaku Amen.
  1880. [2011-11-19 20:59:02] <ManOfTroy> Well.
  1881. [2011-11-19 20:59:05] <ManOfTroy> lets do this.
  1882. [2011-11-19 20:59:14] <Ironybot> Do not take the madness road! It is a BAD ROAD!
  1883. [2011-11-19 20:59:15] <TMIoverload> I think they've made it Pervert Female Neet Otaku Amen.
  1884. [2011-11-19 20:59:15] <ManOfTroy> Whore out the Hate Machine, force it to watch anime.
  1885. [2011-11-19 20:59:17] <Guile_> Troy - I think raping souls for power is worse than raping bodies, if only just
  1886. [2011-11-19 20:59:20] <ManOfTroy> WHO'S WITH ME!
  1887. [2011-11-19 20:59:24] <A_Shameful_Serpent> I AM
  1888. [2011-11-19 20:59:30] <TMIoverload> And also a prostitute
  1889. [2011-11-19 20:59:31] <InsufferableMystic> We should play chess with Amen, you know for the madness
  1890. [2011-11-19 20:59:32] <ManOfTroy> Guile, it's Amen.
  1891. [2011-11-19 20:59:33] <A_Shameful_Serpent> WHAT DID YOU SAY IRONY? MAD ROAD?
  1892. [2011-11-19 20:59:33] <BUTTZ> Hell it'll be funny
  1893. [2011-11-19 20:59:37] <ManOfTroy> It's likely doing both.
  1894. [2011-11-19 20:59:47] <ManOfTroy> Hell, it would rape minds, blood, souls and bodies.
  1895. [2011-11-19 20:59:56] <TMIoverload> Amen probably has bindings that prevent sex, because he could probably do horrible things with it
  1896. [2011-11-19 21:00:08] <ManOfTroy> What, all sex?
  1897. [2011-11-19 21:00:09] <InsufferableMystic> Welp guess what happens to the prisoners!
  1898. [2011-11-19 21:00:22] <TheBeardiestBob> Masterful blood and flesh manipulator that killed a Wizard that became a god?
  1899. [2011-11-19 21:00:25] <ManOfTroy> Because this is the future. I don't think his old owners knew about...
  1900. [2011-11-19 21:00:29] <ManOfTroy> OH MY GOD!
  1901. [2011-11-19 21:00:33] <Guile_> what I mean is, people have problems with us pimping Amen out but not to keeping a soul inna jar?
  1902. [2011-11-19 21:00:48] <ManOfTroy> I KNOW WHY THEY BANNED AMEN AND THE INTERNET! HE FOUND SHOCK SITES!
  1903. [2011-11-19 21:00:50] <A_Shameful_Serpent> Which brings up the question...what made one of it's previous Masters put a binding on it, prohibiting sex.
  1904. [2011-11-19 21:00:55] <InsufferableMystic> Bob did Amen kill the wizard god via sexings?
  1905. [2011-11-19 21:01:14] <InsufferableMystic> Cause Only a male wizard god could be so stupid
  1906. [2011-11-19 21:01:15] <ManOfTroy> Serpent, ever seen Seven?
  1907. [2011-11-19 21:01:15] <Guile_> One day, if we ever want to send Armas sailing off the cliffs to madness, we must ask Amen what it considers sexually pleasurable
  1908. [2011-11-19 21:01:26] <A_Shameful_Serpent> Uh, noap.
  1909. [2011-11-19 21:01:31] <ManOfTroy> Guile, BRB. Doing that.
  1910. [2011-11-19 21:01:36] <A_Shameful_Serpent> I think it's a movie, with Brad Pitt in it
  1911. [2011-11-19 21:01:50] <BUTTZ> "Master will note that I am a sexless being, and thus have no ability to experience sexual pleasure."
  1912. [2011-11-19 21:01:53] =-= Guile_ is now known as Guile
  1913. [2011-11-19 21:01:57] <ManOfTroy> Well, Serpent, there is a scene in this movie that a man is forced to rape a woman to death with a very vicious looking blade.
  1914. [2011-11-19 21:01:58] <Ironybot> Fortunately, I think again that Amen is a sufficiently alien being that sex has little or no meaning to it. I hope.
  1915. [2011-11-19 21:02:01] <ManOfTroy> I assume something like that.
  1916. [2011-11-19 21:02:07] <TheBeardiestBob> Yeah, one would probably be safe assuming Amen can do quite a bit mid-coitus. And as hilarious as it would be to focus on hilarious/disturbing sexual grotesqueness and/or punnish innuendo resultant from this, but personal I'd rather focus on the 'Horrible brainchild of the Pod People, Parasyte and Alien released into city'
  1917. [2011-11-19 21:02:15] <ManOfTroy> Irony, the irony of your statment is horrible.
  1918. [2011-11-19 21:02:22] <A_Shameful_Serpent> Mmmh. raep.
  1919. [2011-11-19 21:02:25] <InsufferableMystic> Seriously I think a wizard god would know to fight a semi-mindless hate machine or run from one
  1920. [2011-11-19 21:02:27] <Ironybot> I try.
  1921. [2011-11-19 21:02:30] <InsufferableMystic> But a woman
  1922. [2011-11-19 21:02:36] <InsufferableMystic> He'd bed her
  1923. [2011-11-19 21:02:42] <Guile> Okay, then 'What brings Amen mental pleasure.' It would be a list containing all the atrocities ever committed by a human against a human, plus a bunch he made up himself
  1924. [2011-11-19 21:02:53] <A_Shameful_Serpent> We can use those ideas
  1925. [2011-11-19 21:02:55] <InsufferableMystic> And not think anything until bam, dead
  1926. [2011-11-19 21:02:59] <A_Shameful_Serpent> To torture the fuck out of the Reaper's soul
  1927. [2011-11-19 21:03:00] <A_Shameful_Serpent> For info
  1928. [2011-11-19 21:03:00] <ManOfTroy> oOOH! You mean no only would there be horrible everything raping, but there would be mini-amen everywhere?
  1929. [2011-11-19 21:03:05] <ManOfTroy> Well, more then there already is?
  1930. [2011-11-19 21:03:11] <A_Shameful_Serpent> MINI AMENS
  1931. [2011-11-19 21:03:12] <ManOfTroy> I SUGGEST DOING THIS!
  1932. [2011-11-19 21:03:13] <A_Shameful_Serpent> FUCK YEAR
  1933. [2011-11-19 21:03:16] <ManOfTroy> AFTER OTAKU AMEN!
  1934. [2011-11-19 21:03:24] <A_Shameful_Serpent> MINI OTAKU MAID AMENS
  1935. [2011-11-19 21:03:51] <ManOfTroy> TIME TO COMMIT RITUALIZED SELF SLAUGHTER.
  1936. [2011-11-19 21:03:51] <TMIoverload> So, which of the unclaimed Russians is going to die first from trying to have sex with Amen?
  1937. [2011-11-19 21:03:52] <Ironybot> Bob, can I somehow stockpile downvotes? I will need more than I keep on hand to prevent this coming apocalypse.
  1938. [2011-11-19 21:03:58] <Guile> How have we not killed ourselves with Amen yet?
  1939. [2011-11-19 21:04:04] <BUTTZ> Ironybot just cheat
  1940. [2011-11-19 21:04:12] <ManOfTroy> Cheating cheating Irony.
  1941. [2011-11-19 21:04:13] <A_Shameful_Serpent> How have we not /THOUGHT/ of these wonderful ideas regarding Amen yet?
  1942. [2011-11-19 21:04:18] <ManOfTroy> SEND HIM TO AMEN FIRST!
  1943. [2011-11-19 21:04:19] <BUTTZ> Guile: Maybe we already have, and just don't know it yet
  1944. [2011-11-19 21:04:27] <A_Shameful_Serpent> HE SHALL BE THE FIRST SACRIFICE
  1945. [2011-11-19 21:04:29] <ManOfTroy> WILL WILL VIDEO TAPE IT AND RELEASE IT ONTO 4CHAN.
  1946. [2011-11-19 21:04:33] <BUTTZ> It's like that scene in the Sixth Sense
  1947. [2011-11-19 21:04:34] <Guile> 4 concurrent death plots and all
  1948. [2011-11-19 21:04:48] <Ironybot> It's not cheating if you clear it with the GM first.
  1949. [2011-11-19 21:04:49] <InsufferableMystic> All of this quest is a sick dream made by amen...
  1950. [2011-11-19 21:04:53] <ManOfTroy> if any of us actual suggest this, we are so fucked.
  1951. [2011-11-19 21:04:58] <A_Shameful_Serpent> >Sick Dream
  1952. [2011-11-19 21:04:59] <A_Shameful_Serpent> lolno
  1953. [2011-11-19 21:05:07] <ManOfTroy> >wetdream?
  1954. [2011-11-19 21:05:08] <A_Shameful_Serpent> I'm enjoying the fuck out of this
  1955. [2011-11-19 21:05:25] <BUTTZ> "Do that nosebleed thing again Amen"
  1956. [2011-11-19 21:05:26] <InsufferableMystic> Not like I'm serious about Amen Lotus eater machine
  1957. [2011-11-19 21:05:35] <ManOfTroy> Yeah, well.
  1958. [2011-11-19 21:05:36] <A_Shameful_Serpent> 'Yes, Master Armas~!!'
  1959. [2011-11-19 21:05:39] <Guile> there would be even more shit piling down on us if that were the case. And it would be shit that actually kills all our friends, not just maims them
  1960. [2011-11-19 21:05:41] <ManOfTroy> Not quite, Bob is writing...
  1961. [2011-11-19 21:05:47] <ManOfTroy> What is Bob writing in quest, Bob?
  1962. [2011-11-19 21:05:48] <A_Shameful_Serpent> Let him write
  1963. [2011-11-19 21:06:05] <Ironybot> Bob is writing? Already? Damn it, I haven't posted yet. Must do that.
  1964. [2011-11-19 21:06:05] <ManOfTroy> Because i know that Bob exists in quest and if we kill him, we fuck up EVERYTHING.
  1965. [2011-11-19 21:06:17] <Ralith> `lol
  1966. [2011-11-19 21:06:19] <A_Shameful_Serpent> You mean Bob Mundon, Big's teacher
  1967. [2011-11-19 21:06:24] <ManOfTroy> But what is Bob Writing?
  1968. [2011-11-19 21:06:31] <Guile> no, bob mundon is not bob
  1969. [2011-11-19 21:06:36] <A_Shameful_Serpent> Bob Dylan?
  1970. [2011-11-19 21:06:42] <InsufferableMystic> Writing Mindbeasts cause currently Armas is a house of cards mentally speaking, a few cards short of a pack too
  1971. [2011-11-19 21:06:44] <Guile> worth a shot, I guess
  1972. [2011-11-19 21:06:45] <Samar> Armas should get high with Bob
  1973. [2011-11-19 21:06:55] <A_Shameful_Serpent> Armas should get high with Bob AND Amen
  1974. [2011-11-19 21:06:56] <ManOfTroy> Is GfH bob writing Golem Quest, or is he writing GfH quest? And if he is...
  1975. [2011-11-19 21:07:04] <A_Shameful_Serpent> Fuck dat. ANT QUEST
  1976. [2011-11-19 21:07:05] <TheBeardiestBob> Wait I'm writing?
  1977. [2011-11-19 21:07:05] <ManOfTroy> No, no, Samar is right.
  1978. [2011-11-19 21:07:06] <TheBeardiestBob> What?
  1979. [2011-11-19 21:07:10] <A_Shameful_Serpent> Yes you are
  1980. [2011-11-19 21:07:16] <BUTTZ> Armas has trouble with alcohol and you want him to try drugs?
  1981. [2011-11-19 21:07:17] <InsufferableMystic> Melons
  1982. [2011-11-19 21:07:21] <ManOfTroy> What quest are you writing in GfH, Bob?
  1983. [2011-11-19 21:07:22] <A_Shameful_Serpent> Pffft
  1984. [2011-11-19 21:07:23] <Guile> we should stroke our beard and then say something like this to camella http://penny-arcade.com/comic/2011/11/18
  1985. [2011-11-19 21:07:23] <A_Shameful_Serpent> PAPAYAS
  1986. [2011-11-19 21:07:28] <A_Shameful_Serpent> DELICIOUS PAPAYAS
  1987. [2011-11-19 21:07:36] <ManOfTroy> He could be writing somethign completely different.
  1988. [2011-11-19 21:07:39] <ManOfTroy> Like a sequel to Ruby Quest.
  1989. [2011-11-19 21:07:46] <A_Shameful_Serpent> Amen Quest!!
  1990. [2011-11-19 21:07:49] <A_Shameful_Serpent> Perfect!
  1991. [2011-11-19 21:07:53] <ManOfTroy> Down, Serpent.
  1992. [2011-11-19 21:08:03] <ManOfTroy> The joke has died, reason is returning.
  1993. [2011-11-19 21:08:15] <Guile> actually, Armas should stroke his manly beard everywhere he goes. Or... viking berserker braids, maybe
  1994. [2011-11-19 21:08:29] <A_Shameful_Serpent> Bah, I abandoned Reason a long time ago
  1995. [2011-11-19 21:08:34] <TheBeardiestBob> To be fair, so far all his trouble with alcohol has been from 1:magical spiked drink prior to meeting Mammon. 2: superbooze of the Valks 3: when not drinking regularly tried to drink with a big batch of drunkard Russians AND a Valk.
  1996. [2011-11-19 21:09:20] <Ironybot> Wait, did we actually have problems with Valkonen superbooze? I recall handling that rather well.
  1997. [2011-11-19 21:09:20] <A_Shameful_Serpent> Oh. I thought it was something of a curse
  1998. [2011-11-19 21:09:24] <ManOfTroy> This -is- Armas we're talking about. He really can't do anything in medidation.
  1999. [2011-11-19 21:09:34] <InsufferableMystic> We should keep the beard until we need to indentity change
  2000. [2011-11-19 21:09:34] <Ironybot> It was the weasel wine that drunked us over.
  2001. [2011-11-19 21:09:35] <ManOfTroy> Irony.
  2002. [2011-11-19 21:09:39] <TheBeardiestBob> The wall stumble was a minor bit of issue
  2003. [2011-11-19 21:09:42] <A_Shameful_Serpent> Dude. Valks. Booze. Do you expect it to be normal booze?
  2004. [2011-11-19 21:09:43] <BUTTZ> Amen Quest: Day 1) Got a new master, total idiot. Mongrel bloodline powers, greedy and shortsighted, I predict he'll be dead inside a year. His equipment is more interesting than him, I'm going to plan on talking that soul reliquiary into letting me do what I want while the new master fumbles around.
  2005. [2011-11-19 21:09:52] <InsufferableMystic> Bearded fancy suited guy is not Armas is he?
  2006. [2011-11-19 21:09:59] <InsufferableMystic> Hurrhurr
  2007. [2011-11-19 21:10:29] <ManOfTroy> Day 30) WHY AM I WATCHING ANIME! MY MURDER PLANS ARE NOT- La Blue Girl? Oh, I don't have any bindigns agasint that...
  2008. [2011-11-19 21:10:51] <InsufferableMystic> Amen can't learn
  2009. [2011-11-19 21:10:54] <TheBeardiestBob> http://www.alllol.com/1484_Pandas__Pretty_good_at_rocking_horses/
  2010. [2011-11-19 21:10:59] <InsufferableMystic> No Anime for him
  2011. [2011-11-19 21:11:04] <BUTTZ> He can learn, he just can't cheat at it
  2012. [2011-11-19 21:11:20] <Arkeus> right, posted
  2013. [2011-11-19 21:11:34] <A_Shameful_Serpent> Day 31) Forced into female form, dress up in a maid dress, and divide, and say everything in a suggestive tone. I swear, the day I'm free this guy's head is going on a pike. FML
  2014. [2011-11-19 21:11:47] <Guile> he cant learn languages, right?
  2015. [2011-11-19 21:12:02] <ManOfTroy> Oh god.
  2016. [2011-11-19 21:12:10] <BUTTZ> He suggested that he's limited in how he can learn
  2017. [2011-11-19 21:12:16] <ManOfTroy> We get Amen a FML account, he's gonna be an internet superstar.
  2018. [2011-11-19 21:12:26] <Ironybot> He can't use the internet.
  2019. [2011-11-19 21:12:27] <BUTTZ> Which means he probably needs more than just Primsleur's Guide to Mandarin
  2020. [2011-11-19 21:12:35] <ManOfTroy> He can't surf the internet?
  2021. [2011-11-19 21:12:38] <ManOfTroy> That's sad.
  2022. [2011-11-19 21:12:39] <A_Shameful_Serpent> Yeah, can't use the Internet.
  2023. [2011-11-19 21:12:45] <BUTTZ> He just told us he's got a binding against it
  2024. [2011-11-19 21:12:52] <BUTTZ> It's the whole reason why Smets didn't use him for ANYTHING
  2025. [2011-11-19 21:12:59] <ManOfTroy> True.
  2026. [2011-11-19 21:13:00] <A_Shameful_Serpent> What a waste
  2027. [2011-11-19 21:13:05] <A_Shameful_Serpent> Having him do nothing
  2028. [2011-11-19 21:13:07] <Ironybot> You can't get data off the internet without also sending data to the internet. And Amen sending data to the internet would be horrible.
  2029. [2011-11-19 21:13:17] <Guile> I wonder if Amen could break us, make us into a compliant husk, and then be given 'orders' by his 'master' that involve him doing everything he'd ever want to do, free to spread his hatred and murder-rage - and still retain intelligence
  2030. [2011-11-19 21:13:32] <Arkeus> Of course he could
  2031. [2011-11-19 21:13:32] <BUTTZ> He got on the internet, his previous master died, and Smets realized that Amen was a huge huge huge idiot trap
  2032. [2011-11-19 21:13:35] <ManOfTroy> Well yeah, that's his plan.
  2033. [2011-11-19 21:13:37] <Arkeus> you could always order him to do that
  2034. [2011-11-19 21:13:42] <Arkeus> he'll be so 'happy' to comply
  2035. [2011-11-19 21:13:52] <Samar> considering Smets was an idiot, good thing he didnt order
  2036. [2011-11-19 21:13:55] <Samar> aAmen to do anything
  2037. [2011-11-19 21:14:04] <Ironybot> Smets was not an idiot.
  2038. [2011-11-19 21:14:04] <Arkeus> Samar: Armas is worse
  2039. [2011-11-19 21:14:07] <A_Shameful_Serpent> Damn, I'm slowly turning back into 'Amen has hope' :<
  2040. [2011-11-19 21:14:12] <BUTTZ> No
  2041. [2011-11-19 21:14:14] <BUTTZ> No he does not
  2042. [2011-11-19 21:14:15] <Arkeus> Not slowly
  2043. [2011-11-19 21:14:16] <ManOfTroy> Oh, Bob! if you're not busy, I want to know if the 'Gaint that forges Swords' exists in GfH.
  2044. [2011-11-19 21:14:20] <Arkeus> you are full-on 'Amen is Great'
  2045. [2011-11-19 21:14:21] * Samar stabs Serpent
  2046. [2011-11-19 21:14:22] <Samar> no, bad
  2047. [2011-11-19 21:14:23] <ManOfTroy> BEAT IT OUT OF HIM!
  2048. [2011-11-19 21:14:29] <Guile> he had an inflated opinion of himself
  2049. [2011-11-19 21:14:31] <ManOfTroy> BEAT HIM! BASH HIM TILL HE LEARNS!
  2050. [2011-11-19 21:14:33] <BUTTZ> But the idea of forcing him to watch anime is funny
  2051. [2011-11-19 21:14:35] <InsufferableMystic> Only if it is no longer Amen can there be hope
  2052. [2011-11-19 21:14:46] <BUTTZ> "You'll watch this cartoon about talking poop, and you'll like it!"
  2053. [2011-11-19 21:14:48] <Samar> Amen must become Nema
  2054. [2011-11-19 21:14:55] <A_Shameful_Serpent> >.<
  2055. [2011-11-19 21:15:00] <InsufferableMystic> Actually
  2056. [2011-11-19 21:15:05] <ManOfTroy> ALthough, we can't let him watch anything.
  2057. [2011-11-19 21:15:14] <ManOfTroy> Because, really, it will give amen good ideas.
  2058. [2011-11-19 21:15:24] <Guile> amen has plenty of ideas already
  2059. [2011-11-19 21:15:27] <InsufferableMystic> Us giving him a name will help somewhat might go towards seperating personas
  2060. [2011-11-19 21:15:57] <TheBeardiestBob> http://2spare.com/_media/imgs/articles/a145_h8.jpg
  2061. [2011-11-19 21:16:06] <A_Shameful_Serpent> Let's stop talking about him before I fully turn back into 'Amen is the bestest thing ever' again
  2062. [2011-11-19 21:16:08] <TheBeardiestBob> I would be incapable of walking by WITHOUT giving him money
  2063. [2011-11-19 21:16:15] <BUTTZ> "Amen, I dub thee, uh, Hitler-Chan."
  2064. [2011-11-19 21:16:18] <TheBeardiestBob> A booze wizard
  2065. [2011-11-19 21:16:33] <Guile> What part of this conversation could POSSIBLY seem like a good idea to you, UU?
  2066. [2011-11-19 21:16:41] <A_Shameful_Serpent> MY GOD. EVERYTHING
  2067. [2011-11-19 21:16:47] <Guile> I wish I could click that link, bob
  2068. [2011-11-19 21:16:51] <Ironybot> Bob, are you willing to answer some questions?
  2069. [2011-11-19 21:16:52] <A_Shameful_Serpent> YOU HAVE NO IDEA HOW MUCH I WANT HIM FREE RIGHT NOW
  2070. [2011-11-19 21:16:54] <TMIoverload> I'm so glad Armas isn't an Otaku, making pretty much all of this impossible in quest
  2071. [2011-11-19 21:17:07] <InsufferableMystic> "Booze Wizard he'll make your money and your booze dissappear!"
  2072. [2011-11-19 21:17:08] <BUTTZ> Yeah that's why it's safe to joke around with it
  2073. [2011-11-19 21:17:21] <ManOfTroy> Bob. Is that the mad Drunk?
  2074. [2011-11-19 21:17:27] <Guile> Armas can find whole new exciting ways to fuck up. "Amen, beer me." "Yes, master." *Armas is turned into beer*
  2075. [2011-11-19 21:17:55] <ManOfTroy> Oh! Bob, actually imporant question: Did we fuck up in our wordering to Amen about the mere and the Charms?
  2076. [2011-11-19 21:18:08] <Guile> I cant believe Amen didnt take the vaguely worded charm order and run with it. run with it forever.
  2077. [2011-11-19 21:18:34] <ManOfTroy> What one was that?
  2078. [2011-11-19 21:18:47] <ManOfTroy> I just noticed that we told Amen 'Keep the mere and this stuff anyway from everyone'.
  2079. [2011-11-19 21:18:57] <A_Shameful_Serpent> >"Don't let anyone, including yourself, touch or otherwise interact with any of these items beyond nonphysical observation. If someone does not wish to comply, call me and I'll give you further instructions."
  2080. [2011-11-19 21:19:37] <Guile> this new pony episode is hilarious. whats hilarious is I read a quite good fanfic that is THIS ENTIRE CONCEPT.
  2081. [2011-11-19 21:19:47] <Guile> "Amen, do something with the Reaper charms."
  2082. [2011-11-19 21:20:08] <A_Shameful_Serpent> >Unable to comply
  2083. [2011-11-19 21:20:19] <TheBeardiestBob> Because 'If someone does not wish to comply, call me and I'll give you further instructions.' is there when you ask for it, he will call you, per the orders, then you tell him to give it to you over the phone even while he's right in front of you.
  2084. [2011-11-19 21:20:37] <TheBeardiestBob> It's WONKY, but you actually left yourself a WAITAMINUTETHERECHAMPIDODECLARE
  2085. [2011-11-19 21:21:04] <ManOfTroy> Ok, because I wasn't sure we could retract prior orders.
  2086. [2011-11-19 21:21:13] <ManOfTroy> Just edit them
  2087. [2011-11-19 21:21:16] <BUTTZ> "Amen, describe your level of job satisfaction under me as compared to your levels of satisfaction working under previous masters, abstracted into the American school grading system A through F rating"
  2088. [2011-11-19 21:21:24] <Arkeus> lol
  2089. [2011-11-19 21:21:34] <ManOfTroy> Oh god, you want to give Amen a performance review?
  2090. [2011-11-19 21:21:42] <A_Shameful_Serpent> -G. Compared to previous masters, -G too.
  2091. [2011-11-19 21:21:53] <Arkeus> Bob: do we have a bit more time to talk to Camella, or is it it for today?
  2092. [2011-11-19 21:21:54] <TheBeardiestBob> This is an edit-you left yourself an openended tail to the order, so this classifies as an edit, not a retraction
  2093. [2011-11-19 21:22:03] <Ralith> can someone explain to me why the fuck we're still using amen for everyday tasks
  2094. [2011-11-19 21:22:09] <ManOfTroy> Ah, ok.
  2095. [2011-11-19 21:22:12] <A_Shameful_Serpent> Why not? He's been pretty great so far
  2096. [2011-11-19 21:22:23] <Ralith> because it is going to bite us in the ass
  2097. [2011-11-19 21:22:26] <A_Shameful_Serpent> Godammit, I need to get these thoughts out of my head.
  2098. [2011-11-19 21:22:27] <ManOfTroy> Because that kind of made me go 'wow, did we really fuck up that bad'.
  2099. [2011-11-19 21:22:37] <Ralith> I mean look at what just almost happened
  2100. [2011-11-19 21:22:44] <A_Shameful_Serpent> I like him and hate him
  2101. [2011-11-19 21:22:44] <ManOfTroy> SOMEONE TIE HIM DOWN AND POUR ACID INTO HIS EAR!
  2102. [2011-11-19 21:22:44] <TheBeardiestBob> http://www.sadanduseless.com/image.php?n=455
  2103. [2011-11-19 21:22:58] <Ralith> and that doesn't even involve him actively working against us
  2104. [2011-11-19 21:23:08] <Ralith> which he'll try to do if we let him
  2105. [2011-11-19 21:23:10] <A_Shameful_Serpent> He'd probably feel nothing, MoT
  2106. [2011-11-19 21:23:16] <TheBeardiestBob> http://assets0.ordienetworks.com/images/user_photos/1220042/4dbcb2fea3989b3656abea0d3735d3b3_width_600x.jpg
  2107. [2011-11-19 21:23:31] <ManOfTroy> Not amen, -you-.
  2108. [2011-11-19 21:23:35] <Guile> what Im wondering is, how much actual gold is in cloth-of-gold?
  2109. [2011-11-19 21:23:36] <BUTTZ> That's a bargain
  2110. [2011-11-19 21:23:36] <A_Shameful_Serpent> :<
  2111. [2011-11-19 21:23:51] <Shifter42> Rub white phosphorous all over his body then.
  2112. [2011-11-19 21:23:52] <A_Shameful_Serpent> Speaking of gold
  2113. [2011-11-19 21:23:56] <A_Shameful_Serpent> I wonder how much GOLD he has
  2114. [2011-11-19 21:24:05] <A_Shameful_Serpent> GOLD~
  2115. [2011-11-19 21:24:08] <A_Shameful_Serpent> Precious metals
  2116. [2011-11-19 21:24:10] <A_Shameful_Serpent> Gems
  2117. [2011-11-19 21:24:38] <Shifter42> You're overstating the value of such things.
  2118. [2011-11-19 21:24:42] <Guile> and where is 'fabrication materials' coming from, and how does Amen do it? Its not fleshcrafting, unless fleshcrafting is a lot more inclusive than I thought
  2119. [2011-11-19 21:25:28] <Shifter42> He can't modify cellular automata, can he?
  2120. [2011-11-19 21:25:34] <BUTTZ> He's got a workshop in the house somewhere
  2121. [2011-11-19 21:25:36] <BUTTZ> That's all
  2122. [2011-11-19 21:25:52] <BUTTZ> There's big parts of the mansion we haven't seen at all
  2123. [2011-11-19 21:26:21] <A_Shameful_Serpent> Amen, guide me on a tour~
  2124. [2011-11-19 21:26:46] <Samar> Amen might handsew all our clothing because he's that boss.
  2125. [2011-11-19 21:26:48] <A_Shameful_Serpent> inb4 torture chamber, corpse dumpster, etc, etc
  2126. [2011-11-19 21:26:54] <Guile> eh, I asked for a tour once, and it was not accepted. So to me, the mansion is just a magical place where anything can happen
  2127. [2011-11-19 21:27:00] <BUTTZ> You can't inb4 when it's explicitly implied
  2128. [2011-11-19 21:27:04] <A_Shameful_Serpent> It's a Magical World~
  2129. [2011-11-19 21:27:35] <TheBeardiestBob> Show of hands-who is pretty sure they know how Amen can make clothes and shit on demand like this.
  2130. [2011-11-19 21:27:38] <InsufferableMystic> What worries me is armas discarding the idea of dressing fambointly, and then dem files
  2131. [2011-11-19 21:27:57] * Shifter42 raises his hand...
  2132. [2011-11-19 21:28:09] <InsufferableMystic> Hadn't thought about it, but I do not like
  2133. [2011-11-19 21:28:16] <BUTTZ> I'm sticking with the "sweatshop full of slaves" idea
  2134. [2011-11-19 21:28:26] <InsufferableMystic> hence me suggesting we dress ourselves
  2135. [2011-11-19 21:28:50] <InsufferableMystic> Suits do not come from nowhere
  2136. [2011-11-19 21:28:51] * Arkeus doesn't raise hands
  2137. [2011-11-19 21:28:53] <TMIoverload> We outright told him to use Smets stuff at one point, so i'm assuming that
  2138. [2011-11-19 21:29:08] <TheBeardiestBob> Hahahaa
  2139. [2011-11-19 21:29:12] <BUTTZ> Man I don't know why I believe anything on 4chan, some asshole suggested the Ragnarok online OST and I'm listening to it and it is completely obnoxious
  2140. [2011-11-19 21:29:25] |<-- Ralith has left irc.rizon.net (Quit: Lost terminal)
  2141. [2011-11-19 21:29:41] <Arkeus> He could make them via flesh amgic
  2142. [2011-11-19 21:29:44] <Arkeus> magic
  2143. [2011-11-19 21:29:48] <Guile> whoever it was that suggested using our file to plug security gaps earlier - any thoughts on how to go about it?
  2144. [2011-11-19 21:29:52] <Arkeus> and the hides of people we captured
  2145. [2011-11-19 21:30:00] <Guile> apparently he doesnt hurt anybody when he does the clothes
  2146. [2011-11-19 21:30:04] * ManOfTroy doesn't raise hand either.
  2147. [2011-11-19 21:30:06] <Guile> he did tell us that, didnt he?
  2148. [2011-11-19 21:30:08] <ManOfTroy> I'm not that stupid.
  2149. [2011-11-19 21:30:10] <TMIoverload> But then... that was a specific instance. And he said get creative with the materials without material to work with... So perhaps he's using the prisoners
  2150. [2011-11-19 21:30:16] <Arkeus> Guile: it doesn't need to hurt
  2151. [2011-11-19 21:30:19] <Arkeus> Painless
  2152. [2011-11-19 21:30:20] <Arkeus> :p
  2153. [2011-11-19 21:30:25] <A_Shameful_Serpent> OH
  2154. [2011-11-19 21:30:31] * A_Shameful_Serpent RAISES BOTH HANDS
  2155. [2011-11-19 21:30:38] <TMIoverload> We probably should've made the use Smets stuff to every instance of asking him to make stufff
  2156. [2011-11-19 21:30:40] * Arkeus cuts them off
  2157. [2011-11-19 21:30:54] * A_Shameful_Serpent grows 2 hands off at each wrist
  2158. [2011-11-19 21:31:00] <A_Shameful_Serpent> back*
  2159. [2011-11-19 21:31:03] <TheBeardiestBob> http://www.killsometime.com/videos/7807/Crazy-Drugged-Woman-Has-Sex-With-Jesus
  2160. [2011-11-19 21:31:05] <Samar> "No captured humans were harmed in the making of this Suit."
  2161. [2011-11-19 21:31:12] -->| Ralith (~ralith@Rizon-2B9BBBE8.vc.shawcable.net) has joined #golemquest
  2162. [2011-11-19 21:31:22] <Arkeus> <Guile> whoever it was that suggested using our file to plug security gaps earlier - any thoughts on how to go about it? <= not sure. First thing to do is be more aware of people around.
  2163. [2011-11-19 21:31:34] <Arkeus> We already amde a deal with SM that severly limits what he tells people about us
  2164. [2011-11-19 21:31:42] <Guile> I wish I had sex with jesus when I was drugged up
  2165. [2011-11-19 21:31:54] <A_Shameful_Serpent> Buttz, have you listened to Monastery in Disguise yet?
  2166. [2011-11-19 21:31:56] <TheBeardiestBob> Necrophiliac!
  2167. [2011-11-19 21:31:57] -->| frogzilla (cgiirc@Rizon-FEEBE4F2.socal.res.rr.com) has joined #golemquest
  2168. [2011-11-19 21:31:58] <Arkeus> You really have to be crazy to have sex with jesus
  2169. [2011-11-19 21:31:59] <Guile> I'm not gay, but that just seems like a good time
  2170. [2011-11-19 21:32:03] <InsufferableMystic> Ah now I see why SM wanted the building gone
  2171. [2011-11-19 21:32:06] <InsufferableMystic> Well
  2172. [2011-11-19 21:32:09] <InsufferableMystic> Another reason
  2173. [2011-11-19 21:32:11] <frogzilla> I came in at an interesting time
  2174. [2011-11-19 21:32:31] <BUTTZ> Serpent nah. If you say it's a decent track I'll look it up
  2175. [2011-11-19 21:32:33] <BUTTZ> <Guile>whoever it was that suggested using our file to plug security gaps earlier - any thoughts on how to go about it?
  2176. [2011-11-19 21:32:36] <BUTTZ> I got some thoughts
  2177. [2011-11-19 21:32:41] <Guile> It's like my dnd character is convinced it isnt gay sex if it's with an elf
  2178. [2011-11-19 21:32:57] <BUTTZ> We use my charm trick to discredit the witnesses
  2179. [2011-11-19 21:33:00] <Ironybot> There are some interesting questions about that information. Who knew that we could regenerate from injuries- and more than that, who knew that our regenerative abilities were Summer-based?
  2180. [2011-11-19 21:33:08] <BUTTZ> Have them all see "Armas" doing shit in other places too
  2181. [2011-11-19 21:33:14] <Ironybot> That's a very specific assertion.
  2182. [2011-11-19 21:33:20] <Arkeus> <Sunhawk> http://i.imgur.com/J3AE5.png <---- "The officer was surrounded and feared for his safety" <= poor Officer
  2183. [2011-11-19 21:33:22] <frogzilla> Well there are a couple of ways they could know
  2184. [2011-11-19 21:33:43] <Guile> Im amazed we havent been taken in for killing a cop on camera, or at least surveillance
  2185. [2011-11-19 21:34:01] <frogzilla> The first time period where our regeneration could have been noted was after the Doonongaes encounter
  2186. [2011-11-19 21:34:07] <Guile> Well, they could be talking about our injuries from the Brandt or Smets job
  2187. [2011-11-19 21:34:10] <Guile> the old slow regen
  2188. [2011-11-19 21:34:12] <A_Shameful_Serpent> Alright, wacky theory on how he can obtain all those stuff: He uses blood magic + fleshcrafting to create them, stick a soul into it, speed up time, kill and obtain leather
  2189. [2011-11-19 21:34:14] <Arkeus> <Ironybot> There are some interesting questions about that information. Who knew that we could regenerate from injuries- and more than that, who knew that our regenerative abilities were Summer-based? <= triad for one. Valkonen. Kazadora. Laib Olmai possibly.
  2190. [2011-11-19 21:34:30] <Arkeus> A_Shameful_Serpent: why sticking a soul within?
  2191. [2011-11-19 21:34:32] <A_Shameful_Serpent> Metal: He can prob reconfigure electrons
  2192. [2011-11-19 21:34:34] <TMIoverload> I'm guessing SM
  2193. [2011-11-19 21:34:37] <BUTTZ> The Goblins knew
  2194. [2011-11-19 21:34:47] <A_Shameful_Serpent> Sorry, didn't really want to say 'Sticking souls'
  2195. [2011-11-19 21:34:51] <Arkeus> Yes, but the info is strangely empty if it's the golbins
  2196. [2011-11-19 21:35:06] <Arkeus> Keep in mind the goblins also told us it was a important building with files they wanted gone
  2197. [2011-11-19 21:35:09] <frogzilla> Potentially from multiple sources
  2198. [2011-11-19 21:35:14] <frogzilla> Also Savoy is a possible
  2199. [2011-11-19 21:35:16] <TMIoverload> With how much the Goblins charge for information? No such thing as strangely empty
  2200. [2011-11-19 21:35:18] <Guile> whoever this is is good, but I imagine we can limit their eyes to Turkey
  2201. [2011-11-19 21:35:20] <Arkeus> Yeah, probably multiple sources
  2202. [2011-11-19 21:35:28] <frogzilla> Amen did divulge our 'knack' when discussing us eating his arm
  2203. [2011-11-19 21:35:36] <TMIoverload> I'm sure they'd love to destroy a repository of information they've sold
  2204. [2011-11-19 21:35:37] <Arkeus> That he did
  2205. [2011-11-19 21:35:43] <Ironybot> The information transfer that the goblins can do about us is, from what I recall, VERY limited. We'll have to review the exact text of our agreement, but it's damned restrictive.
  2206. [2011-11-19 21:35:43] <A_Shameful_Serpent> Savoy's reaction was golden
  2207. [2011-11-19 21:35:50] <Arkeus> TMIoverload: not just information they ahve sold
  2208. [2011-11-19 21:35:50] <TMIoverload> Means they might be able to sell it again
  2209. [2011-11-19 21:35:52] <A_Shameful_Serpent> 'YOU WANT TO EAT MY-' 'AAAAAAAARRGH!'
  2210. [2011-11-19 21:35:56] <Arkeus> it seems to me it has information on THEM
  2211. [2011-11-19 21:36:11] <A_Shameful_Serpent> ^
  2212. [2011-11-19 21:36:16] <Guile> I can't wait to find out who Endman and Baki are
  2213. [2011-11-19 21:36:17] <Arkeus> <Ironybot> The information transfer that the goblins can do about us is, from what I recall, VERY limited. We'll have to review the exact text of our agreement, but it's damned restrictive. <= only real agreemnt we made was after BB
  2214. [2011-11-19 21:36:23] <TMIoverload> I know it's more then stuff they've sold, but if any of it is stuff they sold to them, they'd love for it to be gone
  2215. [2011-11-19 21:36:24] <Guile> my gut says Nazis and yakuza, respectively
  2216. [2011-11-19 21:36:25] <A_Shameful_Serpent> >[See 'Istanbul Wyld Goblins' for details on the tribe]
  2217. [2011-11-19 21:36:31] <Arkeus> before tha,t they weren't allowed to tell people we were the ones to teach them firearms
  2218. [2011-11-19 21:36:32] <Arkeus> that's all
  2219. [2011-11-19 21:36:41] <Ironybot> I am reasonably certain that is false.
  2220. [2011-11-19 21:36:45] <frogzilla> Hm
  2221. [2011-11-19 21:36:55] <Arkeus> Reasonably certain ti's true, as i reread recently
  2222. [2011-11-19 21:37:02] <frogzilla> Something more interesting than our healing
  2223. [2011-11-19 21:37:08] <A_Shameful_Serpent> Thing is
  2224. [2011-11-19 21:37:11] <Guile> is Baki japanese for 'eat' or 'explode'? We may have a kindred spirit?
  2225. [2011-11-19 21:37:13] <frogzilla> They know we procured our rifle from H&H
  2226. [2011-11-19 21:37:19] <Arkeus> TMIoverload: they'll love any inforlmation to be gone
  2227. [2011-11-19 21:37:23] <Arkeus> but more if it's info on THEM
  2228. [2011-11-19 21:37:28] <frogzilla> And they know we did so at the START of our career
  2229. [2011-11-19 21:37:33] <Arkeus> frogzilla: indeed
  2230. [2011-11-19 21:37:37] <A_Shameful_Serpent> HOW THE FUCK DID THEY KNOW OF THE VALKS
  2231. [2011-11-19 21:37:41] <Guile> H&H op sec sucks
  2232. [2011-11-19 21:37:50] <TMIoverload> I'm pretty sure Endmen or Endman is actually a more common Italian last name. I'm betting it's the Italian Ex-military Savoy is getting for his Italian part of the axis of evil
  2233. [2011-11-19 21:37:52] <A_Shameful_Serpent> They couldn't have followed us all the way to Finland, could they?
  2234. [2011-11-19 21:37:53] <Arkeus> A_Shameful_Serpent: russians
  2235. [2011-11-19 21:37:55] <Guile> We showed up with Einrik and Hillevi in tow?
  2236. [2011-11-19 21:37:58] <Arkeus> Antonio
  2237. [2011-11-19 21:38:04] <Arkeus> Yeah
  2238. [2011-11-19 21:38:11] <frogzilla> We'll need to go over this with Einrik
  2239. [2011-11-19 21:38:14] <Arkeus> And Chugainov knows this
  2240. [2011-11-19 21:38:14] <Guile> Hillevi is living at our house with us.
  2241. [2011-11-19 21:38:20] <A_Shameful_Serpent> Fuck you Chuggy
  2242. [2011-11-19 21:38:22] <frogzilla> It's a potential breach in his family's security
  2243. [2011-11-19 21:38:27] <A_Shameful_Serpent> You pedophiliac bastard
  2244. [2011-11-19 21:38:29] <Arkeus> Good point
  2245. [2011-11-19 21:38:47] <Guile> I dont think he would enjoy that, being a pedophiliac bastard
  2246. [2011-11-19 21:38:57] <frogzilla> Oh fun thing in Skyrim
  2247. [2011-11-19 21:39:03] <TheBeardiestBob> ...EVERYONE DROP WHAT YOU'RE DOING
  2248. [2011-11-19 21:39:04] <TheBeardiestBob> http://gags.net/jokes/showcase-of-youtube-comments-with-bad-grammar-video_01e3468ca.html
  2249. [2011-11-19 21:39:09] <A_Shameful_Serpent> !!
  2250. [2011-11-19 21:39:10] <Classhole> !?
  2251. [2011-11-19 21:39:10] <frogzilla> They have a little girl working in the dark brotherhood
  2252. [2011-11-19 21:39:13] <TheBeardiestBob> IT'S YOUTUBE COMMENT NARRATION TIME
  2253. [2011-11-19 21:39:22] <A_Shameful_Serpent> OH BOY
  2254. [2011-11-19 21:39:23] <frogzilla> 300 year old vampire little girl
  2255. [2011-11-19 21:39:43] <frogzilla> It reminded me of those crazy plans to get a child or appear as a child to kill chuggy
  2256. [2011-11-19 21:40:39] <Arkeus> frogzilla: negima
  2257. [2011-11-19 21:40:40] <Arkeus> :-(
  2258. [2011-11-19 21:41:14] <Guile> can you kill the child vampire? cuz that was one thing bethesda isnt keen on
  2259. [2011-11-19 21:41:18] <A_Shameful_Serpent> >1:24 GOLDEN
  2260. [2011-11-19 21:41:28] <Guile> even the super annoying MacReady from fallout
  2261. [2011-11-19 21:41:30] <frogzilla> I doubt it
  2262. [2011-11-19 21:41:43] <frogzilla> Which to me says this brotherhood isn't get exterminated
  2263. [2011-11-19 21:41:48] <frogzilla> getting*
  2264. [2011-11-19 21:42:55] <frogzilla> I love how this guy starts slipping into a Walken impersonation.
  2265. [2011-11-19 21:43:05] <Ironybot> Okay, the text of what we agree with Sometimes Merchant regarding not talking about us, at the time of making our instruction deal: "I would have to ask for an oath that my name, presence or identity never be referenced by you, any that train with me, or any of your group that do not come for training but are otherwise aware of the Bargain's details." So while it's definitely blanket- covers...
  2266. [2011-11-19 21:43:05] <Ironybot> ...everything- it also leaves the door wide open for anyone who is in his clan but is not aware of that particular bargain to trade away anything they know about us.
  2267. [2011-11-19 21:43:16] <Ironybot> So you're right, we basically had no security there.
  2268. [2011-11-19 21:43:34] <Ironybot> Even regarding the thing that we specifically were bargaining about and wanted the security for.
  2269. [2011-11-19 21:44:01] <A_Shameful_Serpent> :<
  2270. [2011-11-19 21:44:05] <Arkeus> Actually, i think the thing was changed a bit, given our most recent bargain with SM
  2271. [2011-11-19 21:44:08] =-= TMIoverload is now known as TMIoverloadaway
  2272. [2011-11-19 21:44:09] <A_Shameful_Serpent> But then again, that would have cost a shitload
  2273. [2011-11-19 21:44:19] <InsufferableMystic> Are people being more suspisious of Sm than Amen again
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  2275. [2011-11-19 21:44:22] <InsufferableMystic> Seriously
  2276. [2011-11-19 21:44:27] <InsufferableMystic> Urgh
  2277. [2011-11-19 21:44:31] <Guile> at the same time, selling info on a Goblin Friend is liable to come back on them eventually
  2278. [2011-11-19 21:44:36] <Guile> if only when we learn of it
  2279. [2011-11-19 21:44:47] <Arkeus> Not really, it's business
  2280. [2011-11-19 21:44:50] <A_Shameful_Serpent> Remember, one of our insta-bad ends triggers when we give the Gobbos too much info
  2281. [2011-11-19 21:44:50] <Guile> and freak out like a mortal about it
  2282. [2011-11-19 21:44:58] <A_Shameful_Serpent> And we don't know how much is too much yet
  2283. [2011-11-19 21:45:06] <Ironybot> MORE suspicious? The fact that one party wants to screw you does not mean a second party isn't also interested in screwing you.
  2284. [2011-11-19 21:45:10] <Guile> is too much... ALL of the infos? Because we do that.
  2285. [2011-11-19 21:45:12] <Arkeus> I think it has to do with 'what kind' of info
  2286. [2011-11-19 21:45:18] <Arkeus> Also, we made a incredible bargain recently
  2287. [2011-11-19 21:45:41] <A_Shameful_Serpent> And they just got incredible info...from us too. Even bigger boost to rep, which is kinda bad...
  2288. [2011-11-19 21:45:45] <Guile> what bargain would that be exactly?
  2289. [2011-11-19 21:45:54] <Arkeus> Ironybot: i think the bargain above was 'reworded' as basically "Can't talk about me when it comes to that particualr deal", not can't talk about me at all
  2290. [2011-11-19 21:45:59] <frogzilla> The BB information was pretty decent
  2291. [2011-11-19 21:46:10] <frogzilla> Worth millions in mortal money I'd wager
  2292. [2011-11-19 21:46:13] <Ironybot> Reworded? When?
  2293. [2011-11-19 21:46:23] <frogzilla> Who knows how much in supernatural value
  2294. [2011-11-19 21:46:24] <Guile> frogzilla, SM was NOT happy with that bargain
  2295. [2011-11-19 21:46:47] <frogzilla> We didn't like our restrictions or decision to bundle it with other information
  2296. [2011-11-19 21:47:12] <frogzilla> Probably because it means he'll be obligated to offer more
  2297. [2011-11-19 21:47:23] <frogzilla> Rather than convenient bite sized payments
  2298. [2011-11-19 21:47:58] <Arkeus> But he DOES concede to the following deal: He cannot tell anyone the source of information that I give him, or purposefully reveal it through selective release of specific information to guide another client to the conclusion I was the informant, until after such time my soul has permanently died. <= this
  2299. [2011-11-19 21:48:02] <Arkeus> crazy good
  2300. [2011-11-19 21:48:20] <Arkeus> Ironybot: reworded as in 'Bob took it to mean something else'
  2301. [2011-11-19 21:48:24] <Ironybot> That... doesn't actually stop him from selling information about us.
  2302. [2011-11-19 21:48:39] <Arkeus> Ironybot: it stops him from selling who sells the info
  2303. [2011-11-19 21:48:43] <Arkeus> crazy good
  2304. [2011-11-19 21:49:24] <Arkeus> frogzilla: what BB information?
  2305. [2011-11-19 21:49:28] <Ironybot> Yes, but he could sell the information that Armas Laine was present at whatever events we've described and participated in whatever fashion we participated in.
  2306. [2011-11-19 21:49:35] <Arkeus> No
  2307. [2011-11-19 21:49:38] <Arkeus> Inference
  2308. [2011-11-19 21:49:41] <Arkeus> doesn't work
  2309. [2011-11-19 21:49:55] <Ironybot> How is that revealing his source?
  2310. [2011-11-19 21:50:06] <Arkeus> , or purposefully reveal it through selective release of specific information to guide another client to the conclusion I was the informant
  2311. [2011-11-19 21:50:07] <Arkeus> this
  2312. [2011-11-19 21:50:11] <Guile> Wow. There's fanmade games Fighting is Magic, a Phoenix Wright-like Investigating is Magic, and an MLP RPG all coming out. Before long, every genre is going to have a fanmade pony game
  2313. [2011-11-19 21:50:33] <A_Shameful_Serpent> >Investigating is Magic
  2314. [2011-11-19 21:50:33] <Ironybot> As long as he is evenhanded about his description of events, he gets around that clause.
  2315. [2011-11-19 21:50:35] <A_Shameful_Serpent> WHERE
  2316. [2011-11-19 21:50:42] <InsufferableMystic> One of the keys to getting on well with the fae, is to keep them liking you, don't piss them off, and show the kind of style the like
  2317. [2011-11-19 21:50:44] <Arkeus> Ironybot: not at all
  2318. [2011-11-19 21:50:58] <InsufferableMystic> *they
  2319. [2011-11-19 21:51:16] <Arkeus> InsufferableMystic: well, that's with the fae in mythology maybe
  2320. [2011-11-19 21:51:21] <Arkeus> we have no clue with GfH fae
  2321. [2011-11-19 21:51:23] <A_Shameful_Serpent> Also, ain't long before the inevitable Touhou and MLP:FiM Crossover GAEM
  2322. [2011-11-19 21:51:49] <Ironybot> No, look, if someone says to him "sell me the life story of Armas Laine to the best of your knowledge" he can say "I'll leave out a couple things because of prior bargains, but sure" and sell them pretty much everything we've told him about what we've done.
  2323. [2011-11-19 21:51:58] <Ironybot> That is my concern here.
  2324. [2011-11-19 21:52:09] <Arkeus> He can't, though
  2325. [2011-11-19 21:52:12] <Ironybot> Why not?
  2326. [2011-11-19 21:52:17] <A_Shameful_Serpent> Would probably cost a shitload, since...we're extremely valuable to them
  2327. [2011-11-19 21:52:25] <Arkeus> Because in that case it would be "i can't tell you what he did this month"
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  2329. [2011-11-19 21:52:40] <Arkeus> Because as long as it's clearly somethign that will guide him to that conclusion, he can't
  2330. [2011-11-19 21:53:05] <Ironybot> But he can! Because it can be reasonably assumed that we may have told someone ELSE our life story, and that other person sold the information to Sometimes Merchant.
  2331. [2011-11-19 21:53:20] <Arkeus> No, it really can't
  2332. [2011-11-19 21:53:24] <Ironybot> There is no reasonable guidance to the conclusion that we sold the story personally involved.
  2333. [2011-11-19 21:53:39] <Ironybot> Clear guidance, rather.
  2334. [2011-11-19 21:54:00] <Arkeus> There is as long as we are the only one to have known that information then
  2335. [2011-11-19 21:54:04] <Arkeus> If we aren't, sure
  2336. [2011-11-19 21:54:15] <Arkeus> But the deal was never about hiding what we are doing
  2337. [2011-11-19 21:54:19] <Arkeus> but hiding what we sold
  2338. [2011-11-19 21:54:37] <Ironybot> This conversation is about hiding what we are doing.
  2339. [2011-11-19 21:54:44] <Arkeus> Ah, if you say so
  2340. [2011-11-19 21:55:19] <Guile> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-j6tLWkUbfQ&feature=player_embedded
  2341. [2011-11-19 21:55:20] <Classhole> Guile: That Crazy Nastyass Pinkie Pie - length 3m 27s - rated 4.92/5.0 (199) - 5571 views - mide25 on 2011.10.23
  2342. [2011-11-19 21:55:36] <frogzilla> The danger of our deals to the goblins aside
  2343. [2011-11-19 21:55:48] <frogzilla> From the file it seems unlikely it's from either Triad or Mafia sources
  2344. [2011-11-19 21:55:58] <Ironybot> My purpose, at least, in going through this shit was to answer the question of "do we have reasonable information security on the goblin side of things" and the answer is a clear "no".
  2345. [2011-11-19 21:57:10] <Arkeus> frogzilla: not just them, yes
  2346. [2011-11-19 21:57:16] <Arkeus> It probably is a bit of everything
  2347. [2011-11-19 21:57:23] <Arkeus> Savoy is a BIG contender
  2348. [2011-11-19 21:57:28] <Arkeus> as is Chugainov
  2349. [2011-11-19 21:57:47] <Arkeus> Ironybot: it's more than reasonable
  2350. [2011-11-19 21:58:00] <Arkeus> what it would cost people to get information on us from them is... a lot
  2351. [2011-11-19 21:58:04] <frogzilla> Hm? I'm expressing doubt it's leaked from either source or at least from any management
  2352. [2011-11-19 21:58:22] <frogzilla> And I'm aware it's potentially multiple sources and expressed that several minutes ago
  2353. [2011-11-19 21:58:28] <Arkeus> Then i agree
  2354. [2011-11-19 21:58:35] <frogzilla> Seems increasingly likely to me Savoy isn't a lead
  2355. [2011-11-19 21:58:40] <InsufferableMystic> Note: If we become an extremely valued asset to the wyld, they will not let us end up in a situation where we can no longer give them delicious info
  2356. [2011-11-19 21:58:45] <frogzilla> Or else they would know more about our connection to the Mafia
  2357. [2011-11-19 21:58:47] <Arkeus> Huh
  2358. [2011-11-19 21:58:54] <Arkeus> Avatar Ilands are Australia sized
  2359. [2011-11-19 21:58:58] <Arkeus> pretty damn huge
  2360. [2011-11-19 21:58:58] <frogzilla> The lack of information on that front is most telling
  2361. [2011-11-19 21:58:59] <Guile> "He cannot guide anyone to the conclusion that the info came from Armas." That says to me that he cant just say 'Yeah, Armas was there' and hope the buyer connects the dots
  2362. [2011-11-19 21:59:05] <Ironybot> Considering that our enemies have shown themselves to be willing to spend hundreds of thousands of dollars in munitions and millions in effective value of personnel to kill us off, "it would cost money to screw us" isn't a very solid shield in my opinion.
  2363. [2011-11-19 21:59:15] <InsufferableMystic> Also Smet's info network can't have just vanished
  2364. [2011-11-19 21:59:27] <InsufferableMystic> They would have had a good bit on us
  2365. [2011-11-19 21:59:37] <frogzilla> We have files from his spying on fellow vampires
  2366. [2011-11-19 21:59:37] <Arkeus> Ironybot: not money
  2367. [2011-11-19 21:59:45] <Arkeus> It would REALLY cost
  2368. [2011-11-19 21:59:56] <Ironybot> Money is real.
  2369. [2011-11-19 22:00:04] <Arkeus> As in, SM was pissed at dragons for going to Ramidreju mountains and lying to him
  2370. [2011-11-19 22:00:20] <frogzilla> I'd imagine we can attempt to cobble together his old network again using those files as a base
  2371. [2011-11-19 22:00:20] <Arkeus> It would cost on billions upward
  2372. [2011-11-19 22:00:28] <InsufferableMystic> [03:59] <Ironybot> Money is real.
  2373. [2011-11-19 22:00:30] <InsufferableMystic> HAHAHAHAHAA
  2374. [2011-11-19 22:00:33] <InsufferableMystic> AHAHHAHAH
  2375. [2011-11-19 22:00:36] <InsufferableMystic> Sorry
  2376. [2011-11-19 22:00:43] <A_Shameful_Serpent> Money IS real.
  2377. [2011-11-19 22:00:47] <InsufferableMystic> Nope
  2378. [2011-11-19 22:00:47] <A_Shameful_Serpent> ANd I love it
  2379. [2011-11-19 22:00:52] <InsufferableMystic> It is a contruct
  2380. [2011-11-19 22:00:59] <InsufferableMystic> *construct
  2381. [2011-11-19 22:01:04] <frogzilla> It is, but we are a rather valuable commodity to the goblins
  2382. [2011-11-19 22:01:19] <Ironybot> The fact that you acknowledge that it exists as a construct means that you acknowledge it exists, and is therefore real.
  2383. [2011-11-19 22:01:29] <frogzilla> Furthermore we know a charm that allows one to ignore a single spell from a nonwizard costs several millions
  2384. [2011-11-19 22:01:48] <BUTTZ> What charm?
  2385. [2011-11-19 22:01:50] <Ironybot> I didn't claim that it held intrinsic value, just that it is real, with the implication being that it is an existing, effective means of transferring worth.
  2386. [2011-11-19 22:01:55] <BUTTZ> How do we know that? When did we learn it?
  2387. [2011-11-19 22:02:00] <frogzilla> Far back
  2388. [2011-11-19 22:02:07] <frogzilla> We learned about it, the arrow charms and the blade charms
  2389. [2011-11-19 22:02:15] <Ironybot> It's one of the three types of charm that Sometimes Merchant offered to sell us initially.
  2390. [2011-11-19 22:03:06] <frogzilla> If that's any indication our own story seems like it would be rather high up there.
  2391. [2011-11-19 22:04:18] <BUTTZ> Man we need to get through this Wayward Wednesday and scare up some paying jobs
  2392. [2011-11-19 22:04:35] <frogzilla> We do
  2393. [2011-11-19 22:04:42] <frogzilla> And hopefully jobs we can plan for
  2394. [2011-11-19 22:04:54] <frogzilla> Christ I haven't had the chance to draw up a good plan in ages
  2395. [2011-11-19 22:04:58] <Ironybot> Scare up some paying jobs? We've made out like a bandit on our jobs today. Well, assuming the mere thing pans out.
  2396. [2011-11-19 22:05:07] <Ironybot> Without being too costly, that is.
  2397. [2011-11-19 22:05:17] <BUTTZ> I want liquidity
  2398. [2011-11-19 22:06:18] <Arkeus> Keep in mind that what we got from lo fang is worth a handful of millions
  2399. [2011-11-19 22:06:21] <Guile> or a way to get the reaper charms working for us. but the files should prove fruitful, and Lo Fang training is 3mil or so
  2400. [2011-11-19 22:06:25] <Arkeus> And that's WITHOUT counting the charms
  2401. [2011-11-19 22:06:42] <Arkeus> Also, we got rid of SM last favor
  2402. [2011-11-19 22:06:44] <Ironybot> Fine, you want liquidity- how much do you think that Sometimes Merchant would pay for a set of Reaper charms, complete with living blood sample and the SOUL IN A JAR of the Reaper they're linked to?
  2403. [2011-11-19 22:06:56] <Arkeus> 50 millions
  2404. [2011-11-19 22:06:57] <Arkeus> at least
  2405. [2011-11-19 22:07:02] <frogzilla> That is a good question, do we want to keep them?
  2406. [2011-11-19 22:07:03] <Arkeus> maybe 500
  2407. [2011-11-19 22:07:12] <Arkeus> I don't want to sell them to SM
  2408. [2011-11-19 22:07:17] <Ironybot> Conservatively I'd put it at tens of millions, even if we stipulate that he can never ever ever reveal his source on it in tons of ways.
  2409. [2011-11-19 22:07:17] <Arkeus> that's crazy dangerous
  2410. [2011-11-19 22:07:19] <frogzilla> I'm thinking we have another Mammon's Device level item on our hands
  2411. [2011-11-19 22:07:24] <frogzilla> Not to SM
  2412. [2011-11-19 22:07:30] <frogzilla> But perhaps in the auction
  2413. [2011-11-19 22:07:32] <Arkeus> frogzilla: much worse
  2414. [2011-11-19 22:07:40] <Arkeus> it seems they can get mass-produced
  2415. [2011-11-19 22:08:05] <Arkeus> Keep in mind that BILLIONS were paid to learn their secrets
  2416. [2011-11-19 22:08:21] <Arkeus> Giving it away might be a GfH bad end
  2417. [2011-11-19 22:08:55] <BUTTZ> Oh shit it's FAIRY QUEST
  2418. [2011-11-19 22:08:55] <BUTTZ> http://boards.4chan.org/tg/res/16967193
  2419. [2011-11-19 22:08:58] <Ironybot> Keeping it might be a bad end, too. If we get it working for us, think of the attention that we'll attract.
  2420. [2011-11-19 22:09:08] <Arkeus> Ironybot: i agree on that
  2421. [2011-11-19 22:09:17] <Arkeus> There is a reason i didn't want them
  2422. [2011-11-19 22:09:23] <Ironybot> I am kind of inclined to consider it too dangerous to effectively handle and dispose of it ASAP for that reason.
  2423. [2011-11-19 22:09:37] <frogzilla> Mass produced by the reapers, who likely have a system and specialized resources in place to produce them
  2424. [2011-11-19 22:09:40] <Arkeus> However, disposing of it can't be done for cost
  2425. [2011-11-19 22:09:44] <Arkeus> you can destroy it, sure
  2426. [2011-11-19 22:09:48] <Arkeus> but we can't sell them
  2427. [2011-11-19 22:09:56] <BUTTZ> I think haxxing the charm array into something that can work and then seeing what Lammy can do with it would be pretty funny
  2428. [2011-11-19 22:10:08] <frogzilla> If you want to destroy it you can just separate the charm from the soul and let it explode
  2429. [2011-11-19 22:10:12] <Arkeus> Yeah
  2430. [2011-11-19 22:10:18] <frogzilla> Destroying is easy
  2431. [2011-11-19 22:10:29] <Arkeus> I would post about doing that, but people will SUSt the fuck out of me
  2432. [2011-11-19 22:10:37] <Arkeus> I REALLY didn't want them
  2433. [2011-11-19 22:10:44] <Ironybot> By "dispose of it" I meant "get rid of it profitably".
  2434. [2011-11-19 22:10:52] <Arkeus> Yeah, abd end
  2435. [2011-11-19 22:10:55] <Arkeus> Bad End
  2436. [2011-11-19 22:10:59] <Ironybot> Why?
  2437. [2011-11-19 22:11:01] <frogzilla> I would, it's a valuable resource, if you can't be bothered to think of a clever way to use it then don't bother posting because you're afraid of it
  2438. [2011-11-19 22:11:02] <Arkeus> unless we booby-trap them
  2439. [2011-11-19 22:11:13] <Guile> Dispose of the thing that turns an exceptional but nonmagical mortal into something that terrifies LAMMY?
  2440. [2011-11-19 22:11:26] <Arkeus> frogzilla: yes, exaclty
  2441. [2011-11-19 22:11:35] <frogzilla> That was against your statement Arkeus
  2442. [2011-11-19 22:11:39] <Arkeus> So far, as long as we aren't doing anything stupid with them, it's ok
  2443. [2011-11-19 22:11:50] <Arkeus> I just don't trust it will stay that way
  2444. [2011-11-19 22:11:55] <Arkeus> It's another Mokey's paw
  2445. [2011-11-19 22:11:58] <Arkeus> Monkey's paw
  2446. [2011-11-19 22:12:05] <Arkeus> we have too many of them
  2447. [2011-11-19 22:12:07] <Guile> We use Amen plenty
  2448. [2011-11-19 22:12:36] <Arkeus> I don't mind using those charms to train our charm-detection/analyzis
  2449. [2011-11-19 22:12:42] <InsufferableMystic> Problem is people don't seem to realise just how bad Amen is, we need to not use him. Full stop
  2450. [2011-11-19 22:12:44] <Arkeus> And to train up our charm crafting
  2451. [2011-11-19 22:12:54] <Guile> and if we're in a situation where the choice is 'die horribly' or 'reveal we have Reaper tech', then I'd like to have that second option
  2452. [2011-11-19 22:13:04] <BUTTZ> If we turn him into something more obviously repugnant that may help
  2453. [2011-11-19 22:13:11] <InsufferableMystic> Third option exists
  2454. [2011-11-19 22:13:14] <A_Shameful_Serpent> No no no TIM
  2455. [2011-11-19 22:13:17] <A_Shameful_Serpent> We can't not use him
  2456. [2011-11-19 22:13:21] <A_Shameful_Serpent> We just need to not use him so much
  2457. [2011-11-19 22:13:26] <InsufferableMystic> We can always memory blank via SB
  2458. [2011-11-19 22:13:34] <Arkeus> Guile: 'gettign' the reaper tehc is an investment
  2459. [2011-11-19 22:13:46] <Arkeus> But yes, having the reaper tech by itself is much less bad end than selling it
  2460. [2011-11-19 22:14:00] <Arkeus> it's dangerous as fuck, as making ti known means you get Titancorp after you
  2461. [2011-11-19 22:14:11] <Arkeus> but it's just a few hundreds assassins, right?
  2462. [2011-11-19 22:14:16] <Arkeus> maybe a wizards or two
  2463. [2011-11-19 22:14:18] <Arkeus> <_<
  2464. [2011-11-19 22:14:28] <InsufferableMystic> Infact we can even do a total memory steal, then have SB guide Armas into safe situation and return memory slowly
  2465. [2011-11-19 22:14:28] <Ironybot> I don't think that selling it is a bad end at all. Given that Lo Fang was able to acquire and attempt to reverse engineer three samples previously, it's obvious that there is a functioning market in them.
  2466. [2011-11-19 22:14:30] <Arkeus> OTOH, selling it? wow, that's insta- game over
  2467. [2011-11-19 22:14:37] <A_Shameful_Serpent> k, night
  2468. [2011-11-19 22:14:46] <Arkeus> Ironybot: i meant selling it with soul and blood
  2469. [2011-11-19 22:14:52] <Arkeus> Selling it as is is possible, yes
  2470. [2011-11-19 22:15:04] <frogzilla> Selling it without the soul or blood means selling a heap of scrap
  2471. [2011-11-19 22:15:11] <Arkeus> frogzilla: yep :-)
  2472. [2011-11-19 22:15:12] <frogzilla> Which we're free to do
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  2474. [2011-11-19 22:15:22] <Guile> You dont think having it known we killed 2 of them might get us on their shit list?
  2475. [2011-11-19 22:15:23] <frogzilla> Probably get a shiny nickle
  2476. [2011-11-19 22:15:25] <Arkeus> It means it will decay
  2477. [2011-11-19 22:15:31] <Arkeus> People will still want it
  2478. [2011-11-19 22:15:41] <Arkeus> As BILLIONS were paid for it before
  2479. [2011-11-19 22:15:45] <Arkeus> but ti won't mean bad-end
  2480. [2011-11-19 22:15:56] <Arkeus> Guile: it's not known
  2481. [2011-11-19 22:15:56] <Guile> Lammy drew three of them just for killing one, and maybe stealing something of theirs
  2482. [2011-11-19 22:15:58] <frogzilla> I don't understand where you get this absolute certainty what does and does not define a bad end
  2483. [2011-11-19 22:16:05] <frogzilla> Lammy blew up an entire compound
  2484. [2011-11-19 22:16:19] <Arkeus> frogzilla: i don't get a certainty at all
  2485. [2011-11-19 22:16:19] <frogzilla> We killed the only one who knew anything about us
  2486. [2011-11-19 22:16:20] <Guile> We had an enormous battle at the docks. Tens of thousands of rounds exchanged. How could it NOT be known?
  2487. [2011-11-19 22:16:24] <frogzilla> You do
  2488. [2011-11-19 22:16:36] <Arkeus> I am saying what are my gut instinct about selling somethng that's a game changer for anyone
  2489. [2011-11-19 22:16:38] <frogzilla> Or certainly sound like it
  2490. [2011-11-19 22:16:41] <Arkeus> I might be completely wrong
  2491. [2011-11-19 22:16:49] <Arkeus> But it IS a game-changer
  2492. [2011-11-19 22:16:57] <Ironybot> Okay. Here's an idea. We sell the soul, blood, and charms to Sometimes Merchant... with a clause that says he can't do anything but hang onto them and preserve them for three years.
  2493. [2011-11-19 22:17:02] <Ironybot> Time is a small thing, right?
  2494. [2011-11-19 22:17:08] <Guile> We wrecked a warehouse and destroyed a pier
  2495. [2011-11-19 22:17:14] <Ironybot> So it shouldn't nuke the price that much.
  2496. [2011-11-19 22:17:16] <Guile> plus whatever Lammy and that other Reaper did
  2497. [2011-11-19 22:17:20] <Arkeus> Ironybot: that's... not a bad idea
  2498. [2011-11-19 22:17:33] <Arkeus> OTOH, it should be careful about what are years
  2499. [2011-11-19 22:17:41] <Arkeus> Nevernever abuse and all that
  2500. [2011-11-19 22:17:59] <Ironybot> Well, yeah, we need to ward the trade all around with caveats, but the basic concept is sound, right?
  2501. [2011-11-19 22:18:03] <BUTTZ> I want to get it working and stick it on Lammy
  2502. [2011-11-19 22:18:05] <Arkeus> Guile: it's known the triad killed three reaper
  2503. [2011-11-19 22:18:06] <Arkeus> fended off
  2504. [2011-11-19 22:18:08] <Arkeus> Not Us
  2505. [2011-11-19 22:18:19] <Arkeus> Ironybot: not sound
  2506. [2011-11-19 22:18:22] <Arkeus> less dangerous
  2507. [2011-11-19 22:18:31] <BUTTZ> "The Fastest French Fuck in Istanbul!"
  2508. [2011-11-19 22:18:32] <Arkeus> But not 'sound'
  2509. [2011-11-19 22:18:48] <Arkeus> Ok BUTTZ, what's the deal with that idea?
  2510. [2011-11-19 22:18:53] <Arkeus> not seeing why you want that
  2511. [2011-11-19 22:18:56] <Guile> Also, is Reaper tech the ONLY way to bend time like that? If we use it, will people automatically go 'holy shit Reaper kill it with fire' and hundreds of elite Reaper assassins descend on us?
  2512. [2011-11-19 22:19:07] <Arkeus> Guile: probably not
  2513. [2011-11-19 22:19:08] <Ironybot> It's pretty distinctive.
  2514. [2011-11-19 22:19:11] <BUTTZ> Because it would ENRAGE the reapers
  2515. [2011-11-19 22:19:17] <Arkeus> But it is distinctive, yes
  2516. [2011-11-19 22:19:32] <Guile> I repeat; how do we know that?
  2517. [2011-11-19 22:19:33] <BUTTZ> They're human supremacists, it will make them flip their shit to see a werewolf using it
  2518. [2011-11-19 22:19:47] <Ironybot> Because it's made of a giant clock that's strapped to your chest?
  2519. [2011-11-19 22:20:19] <Guile> "Hey that guy has something hidden under his shirt. Could it be... is that, yes I think it is... call in the Reapers!
  2520. [2011-11-19 22:20:41] <frogzilla> With all the other magic swag Armas has or will have?
  2521. [2011-11-19 22:20:58] <Arkeus> Guile: if we use it and not take care of witnesses, odds are that it will come back to them
  2522. [2011-11-19 22:21:07] <frogzilla> Magic static out of the wazoo
  2523. [2011-11-19 22:21:23] <Arkeus> OTOH, time-bending is probably possible in other ways
  2524. [2011-11-19 22:21:35] <Arkeus> Keep in mind that Red Carp are much much faster than reapers
  2525. [2011-11-19 22:21:37] <Arkeus> or they can be
  2526. [2011-11-19 22:21:39] <Guile> it seems the charms by themselves frustrate our sensing abilities, maybe there are better sensors out there
  2527. [2011-11-19 22:21:49] <Arkeus> 'Maybe'
  2528. [2011-11-19 22:21:51] <Arkeus> lol
  2529. [2011-11-19 22:21:52] <Guile> they do it with pure muscle power
  2530. [2011-11-19 22:21:56] <Guile> no magic
  2531. [2011-11-19 22:22:00] <Arkeus> Yeah, they are awesome
  2532. [2011-11-19 22:22:00] <Arkeus> :-)
  2533. [2011-11-19 22:22:20] <Guile> So if things can get that fast naturally, thats another layer or two of obfuscation
  2534. [2011-11-19 22:22:29] <Guile> "Yeah, I'm part Redcap on my mother's side."
  2535. [2011-11-19 22:22:50] <Arkeus> Guile, don't expect to be able to use the main reaper charm
  2536. [2011-11-19 22:22:56] <Arkeus> At least for a good long while
  2537. [2011-11-19 22:23:07] <frogzilla> I wonder how red caps would react to keebler elves cookies
  2538. [2011-11-19 22:23:11] <Guile> So it's a long-term project. I'm okay wih that.
  2539. [2011-11-19 22:23:12] <Arkeus> It's possible we may learn enough to duplicate some of the other ones, though
  2540. [2011-11-19 22:23:18] <Arkeus> frogzilla: keebler?
  2541. [2011-11-19 22:23:26] <frogzilla> Brand of cookies
  2542. [2011-11-19 22:23:38] <frogzilla> Have little elves with red caps as the mascots
  2543. [2011-11-19 22:23:44] <Arkeus> Guile: And i honestly think that if we want long term project,s improving our bloodline is more important
  2544. [2011-11-19 22:23:45] <Guile> The Keebler elves are a long and distinguished line of fae specializing in chocolate chip magic. Very deadly, very secretive
  2545. [2011-11-19 22:23:54] <Arkeus> improving what we can do with it, i mean
  2546. [2011-11-19 22:23:59] <Arkeus> LOL
  2547. [2011-11-19 22:24:00] <Arkeus> nice
  2548. [2011-11-19 22:24:22] <Arkeus> OTOH, maybe having long term projects for charm crafting isn't a bad idea at all either
  2549. [2011-11-19 22:24:23] <Guile> One does not preclude the other. The bloodline thing is more or less stalled until we complete the trifecta, barring messing around with soullish stuff
  2550. [2011-11-19 22:24:39] <Arkeus> we did think about turnng lo fang's charms into more powerful ones with time
  2551. [2011-11-19 22:24:46] <Arkeus> So it might be a step toward that
  2552. [2011-11-19 22:25:13] <Arkeus> Guile: Reaper Charm is more or less stalled for a longer while, i'd say. No idea though
  2553. [2011-11-19 22:25:47] <Arkeus> As Ironybot said, we could try to sell it to SM as long as he doesn't use it for three times three years
  2554. [2011-11-19 22:25:52] <Guile> We do have a couple advantages that I doubt many - if any - others who have examined Reaper tech have ever had
  2555. [2011-11-19 22:25:56] <Arkeus> In exchange for LOTS of lessons
  2556. [2011-11-19 22:26:05] <Arkeus> Indeed
  2557. [2011-11-19 22:27:50] <BUTTZ> I still like the idea of learning chakra charm making and adapting it ourselves to Sami Spirit Shaman manipulation techniques
  2558. [2011-11-19 22:27:53] <Guile> random thought: if we make a Deal regarding selling the secrets of the charm to SM, allowing us to reverse-engineer it together, while still keeping a set for ourselves... SM should still pay a great deal, and cannot reveal that we have a Reaper charm
  2559. [2011-11-19 22:28:18] <Guile> 'chakra charm'? you mean Taoist stuff, or...?
  2560. [2011-11-19 22:28:44] <BUTTZ> Whatever it is Lo Fang uses to make his charms, the paper charm techniques
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  2562. [2011-11-19 22:29:22] <Guile> yeah, Taoism
  2563. [2011-11-19 22:29:37] <Arkeus> Chakra
  2564. [2011-11-19 22:29:48] <Guile> those are interesting, and honestly I'd rather Lo Fang teach us about that than chakra
  2565. [2011-11-19 22:30:07] <Arkeus> And it can be done via Soul MAgic- except we will have to bild the whole school ourself
  2566. [2011-11-19 22:30:13] <Arkeus> it IS chakra
  2567. [2011-11-19 22:30:25] <Guile> we have several solid chakra teachers to give us a foundation in chakra, even if none of them are Lo Fang's equal
  2568. [2011-11-19 22:30:29] <Arkeus> And we want him to teach us that, yes
  2569. [2011-11-19 22:31:11] <Arkeus> As said earlier, the plan is to get him to teach us that, get goblins to teach us their own charm making, and try to create a whle school using both and our own soul manipulation bloodlines
  2570. [2011-11-19 22:31:27] <Arkeus> While working on that, Reaper Charm could be a 'Easy' side-project
  2571. [2011-11-19 22:31:29] <BUTTZ> I still think we should get the Laib in on this
  2572. [2011-11-19 22:31:38] <Arkeus> Possibly, yes
  2573. [2011-11-19 22:31:47] <Arkeus> They would be VERY interested by Lo Fang's charms
  2574. [2011-11-19 22:32:06] <Arkeus> Chakra paper charms
  2575. [2011-11-19 22:33:50] <Arkeus> http://skunkiss.deviantart.com/art/Twilight-Sparkle-makes-friends-269788061 Wutenheimer, Guile, other bronies
  2576. [2011-11-19 22:35:00] <TheBeardiestBob> While the charm plans great and all, to do Lo Fang's charms requires some (by shaolin monk standard) basic chakra manipulation Armas does not know, so you need at least a little straight up chakra manipulation. There's also the sheer time it will take to learn from Lo Fang.
  2577. [2011-11-19 22:35:43] <Arkeus> TheBeardiestBob: but we could learn a little straigh manipulation first from ito/einrik's guy, right
  2578. [2011-11-19 22:35:44] <Arkeus> ?
  2579. [2011-11-19 22:35:57] <Ironybot> I wonder how Lo Fang would feel about teaching inside a nevernever time bubble.
  2580. [2011-11-19 22:36:04] <TheBeardiestBob> Nope
  2581. [2011-11-19 22:36:08] <Arkeus> InsufferableMystic: only 6 hrs per week
  2582. [2011-11-19 22:36:12] <TheBeardiestBob> does not mix well with Ckara age maintenance
  2583. [2011-11-19 22:36:17] <Ironybot> Ah.
  2584. [2011-11-19 22:36:20] <Ironybot> A pity, that.
  2585. [2011-11-19 22:36:22] <TheBeardiestBob> which is how a guy as old as him still looks semi-ageless thirty.
  2586. [2011-11-19 22:36:22] <Arkeus> Ah, that was to Ironybot
  2587. [2011-11-19 22:36:35] <Arkeus> and sorry TIM, wrong tab
  2588. [2011-11-19 22:36:58] <Arkeus> TheBeardiestBob: could chakra age-maintenace revers ito's age?
  2589. [2011-11-19 22:37:02] <Arkeus> reverse
  2590. [2011-11-19 22:38:18] <Ironybot> If we're getting questions answered here- can we backtrack slightly; I would like to know what exactly we told Camella about our encounter on the ship, and what her reaction to that was, if possible.
  2591. [2011-11-19 22:38:50] <Ironybot> It was a story that basically ended with "and then hundreds of people got eaten", after all.
  2592. [2011-11-19 22:39:04] <Arkeus> and sold in slavery
  2593. [2011-11-19 22:39:19] <Ironybot> And all that, yes. So my point is that I would be interested in how she took that.
  2594. [2011-11-19 22:39:49] <BUTTZ> "and got eaten, and I couldn't do jack shit about it."
  2595. [2011-11-19 22:42:06] <Guile> Not like we have a NN time bubble handy, anyway
  2596. [2011-11-19 22:42:15] <TheBeardiestBob> Actually yeah, Ito could feel and move like Lo Fang if he were comperably accomplished with Chakra
  2597. [2011-11-19 22:42:24] <Ironybot> In retrospect we should have asked Gregori to just blast apart the whole part of the ship that the big nasty was on. If a bunch of people died, so what? Those who died would be saved from a better fate.
  2598. [2011-11-19 22:42:32] <TheBeardiestBob> chakra experts can push two hundred if they don't do something stupid.
  2599. [2011-11-19 22:42:32] <Ironybot> Grigori, excuse me.
  2600. [2011-11-19 22:42:37] <Arkeus> Ok great, that's a thing on the To Do list
  2601. [2011-11-19 22:42:46] <Guile> Didnt they get sold into slavery, Irony?
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  2603. [2011-11-19 22:43:09] <Guile> wow, that was late
  2604. [2011-11-19 22:43:38] <Guile> so its less a technique and more a side effect of his mastery, eh?
  2605. [2011-11-19 22:43:40] <Ironybot> I actually meant "bitter" instead of "better". Damn, typos all over the place.
  2606. [2011-11-19 22:45:04] <frogzilla> Slavery or slaughtered for meat
  2607. [2011-11-19 22:45:10] <frogzilla> Or any number of other terrible fates
  2608. [2011-11-19 22:45:20] <TheBeardiestBob> Going to Skyrim a bit, then update
  2609. [2011-11-19 22:45:31] <BUTTZ> Grigori couldn't have blown the ship
  2610. [2011-11-19 22:45:32] <frogzilla> But I'm pretty sure Grigori said he wasn't willing to do anything more than teleport us out of there.
  2611. [2011-11-19 22:45:34] <TheBeardiestBob> May actually end up just skyrimming all night, I won't deny the chance.
  2612. [2011-11-19 22:45:38] <BUTTZ> He didn't have the finnesse for it, remember?
  2613. [2011-11-19 22:45:40] <BUTTZ> He was sober
  2614. [2011-11-19 22:45:45] <BUTTZ> I mean power for it
  2615. [2011-11-19 22:45:52] <BUTTZ> He needed the finesse to do the teleport
  2616. [2011-11-19 22:46:27] <Ironybot> He could have chugged a bottle and blasted the guy, and then we had the aquakinetic kids to keep everyone from drowning.
  2617. [2011-11-19 22:47:22] <Ironybot> Bob, before you go I would much appreciate being told what we told Camella about the ship encounter and her reaction to the story.
  2618. [2011-11-19 22:48:52] <TheBeardiestBob> Ah, the ship encounter
  2619. [2011-11-19 22:49:40] <TheBeardiestBob> well, Jessica thought the fact you saved the kids was good, and that you ultimately bugged out was good. She DOES think you were dumb as fuckall to attack alone like you did, but there was so much other shit on the table she didn't make a thing of it or anything.
  2620. [2011-11-19 22:49:55] <BUTTZ> Well she's right
  2621. [2011-11-19 22:49:59] <BUTTZ> It was dumb
  2622. [2011-11-19 22:50:50] <Guile> our 'axe you a question' skills are rather poor
  2623. [2011-11-19 22:51:15] <Guile> but Camella doesnt have a lot of room to be throwing stones on the 'attack all alone' angle. Chasing BB through the sewers solo and all
  2624. [2011-11-19 22:51:34] <TheBeardiestBob> She HAD backup
  2625. [2011-11-19 22:51:40] <TheBeardiestBob> but Wuten fucked it up with shit rolls
  2626. [2011-11-19 22:51:49] <BUTTZ> Well that's normal
  2627. [2011-11-19 22:51:51] <TheBeardiestBob> so she lost her backup
  2628. [2011-11-19 22:51:53] <TheBeardiestBob> then her leg
  2629. [2011-11-19 22:53:22] <Guile> We had a Big-shaped shield!
  2630. [2011-11-19 22:53:22] <Ironybot> So her primary concern with the encounter was our actions in it, rather than its larger implications?
  2631. [2011-11-19 22:53:48] <Guile> not our fault he failed in his primary duty of 'block attacks against Armas's precious arms'
  2632. [2011-11-19 22:54:01] <Ironybot> I mean, the existence of the encounter at all pretty much implies that there are big supernatural nasties out there slaughtering hundreds of people at a time and no one knows about it. It seems like the sort of thing she'd pick up on and care about.
  2633. [2011-11-19 22:54:05] <Guile> She was black ops. Im sure she's had those missions before, moralist or no
  2634. [2011-11-19 22:55:04] <TheBeardiestBob> She has learned since your leaving how shitty things are
  2635. [2011-11-19 22:55:14] <Guile> When we see Big again, I hope he's like Fighter from 8-bit Theatre. How did he put it, "So I can block ANY attack and kill ANYTHING that bleeds. Hint." And he considers the potagonist his BFF.
  2636. [2011-11-19 22:55:41] <TheBeardiestBob> long story short, she's kind of started to suspect she'd have... purpose, again, if she found a way to be a warrior to ward off the dark and the foul. A modern day, gun-toting paladin, if you will.
  2637. [2011-11-19 22:55:55] <Guile> 'potagonist'. I dont even know what that would be.
  2638. [2011-11-19 22:55:55] <Ironybot> What taught her that? Her story didn't sound like it had any serious nasty things in it other than Blackbeard, who is obviously a dick who everyone hates.
  2639. [2011-11-19 22:56:15] <TheBeardiestBob> Less about 'my code' more about 'YOU LEAVE THOSE PEOPLE ALONE I'LL RIP YOU ASSHOLE OUT THROUGH YOUR NIPPLES AND BLOW YOUR NUTS OFF!
  2640. [2011-11-19 22:56:17] <Guile> she's been hanging out with Go Ping, that might do it
  2641. [2011-11-19 22:56:56] <TheBeardiestBob> She's been learning through Go Ping, who is far less reticent to share how the magic world is than Hafaz.
  2642. [2011-11-19 22:57:09] <TheBeardiestBob> and Ito's stories of low grade magic horrors over his life.
  2643. [2011-11-19 22:57:47] <Ironybot> That is probably a more prudent learning method than Armas' "I guess I'll run into it, then kill and/or try to make friends with it" strategy.
  2644. [2011-11-19 22:59:18] <BUTTZ> "Kill it, eat it, make friends with it"
  2645. [2011-11-19 23:00:08] <Guile> possibly one, followed by the other. And not always in the Make friends -> Kill when fails order
  2646. [2011-11-19 23:08:45] <Ironybot> I wonder if one say Gleb Romanov will track us down and ask if our offer to kill him for divine answers to questions is still open.
  2647. [2011-11-19 23:08:54] <Ironybot> One day, excuse me.
  2648. [2011-11-19 23:12:53] <Guile> that still seems like a stupid plan that will piss Og off at us
  2649. [2011-11-19 23:12:55] <Guile> to me
  2650. [2011-11-19 23:14:34] <Ironybot> That may well be true, but I'm mostly wondering if he'll show up and ask about it or not.
  2651. [2011-11-19 23:14:40] <BUTTZ> Well Og should have said "Perma-death"
  2652. [2011-11-19 23:15:07] <BUTTZ> Or maybe "There are select Einher this does not apply to because they won't stay dead"
  2653. [2011-11-19 23:15:15] <Guile> its still abusing the spirit of the law. goblins would be impressed by us, but I dont know that Og would be
  2654. [2011-11-19 23:15:15] <BUTTZ> "I'll let you know when you see them"
  2655. [2011-11-19 23:26:50] <InsufferableMystic> goodnight
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  2657. [2011-11-19 23:38:53] <frogzilla> Eh Armas has at least had some serious education in the ways of the magical world through Einrik
  2658. [2011-11-19 23:39:51] <frogzilla> We did spend quite a lot of time reading over old tomes regarding the courts and whatnot.
  2659. [2011-11-19 23:39:55] <Ironybot> Never enough, but he's definitely gotten some.
  2660. [2011-11-19 23:40:18] <frogzilla> Armas should take speed reading classes
  2661. [2011-11-19 23:40:37] <frogzilla> Knock out books and important documents in minutes/hours
  2662. [2011-11-19 23:41:16] <Ironybot> Armas doesn't really do classes that often. He'd probably just invest in magical physical/mental speed acceleration.
  2663. [2011-11-19 23:41:39] <Ironybot> I mean, learning speed reading the slow way would be a huge investment of time for very little return on the power curve.
  2664. [2011-11-19 23:42:02] <frogzilla> Eh I've had friends do the course material
  2665. [2011-11-19 23:43:11] <frogzilla> It's rigorous, but it doesn't taken an obscene amount of time. Though this isn't a serious suggestion, more of a cool skill that is potentially helpful
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  2667. [2011-11-19 23:47:36] <BUTTZ> http://topdocumentaryfilms.com/guns-for-hire-afghanistan/
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  2673. [2011-11-19 23:53:57] <Wutenheimer> buttz, when jumping into the car that guy pointed his gun DIRECTLY AT THE DRIVER
  2674. [2011-11-19 23:54:08] <BUTTZ> Yep
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