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  1. [11:52:33 AM] finn: hey uh can i just give you a heads up about something?
  2. [11:52:43 AM] Adwiidwii: ?? sure?
  3. [11:52:53 AM] finn: sorry to be that guy
  4. [11:53:05 AM] finn: but you shouldnt id as japanese characters if youre white
  5. [11:53:29 AM] Adwiidwii: oh, like
  6. [11:54:08 AM] Adwiidwii: ok it's not as if i ID as the characters themselves, it's just their personalities are something that I strongly relate to.
  7. [11:54:17 AM] finn: you cant really separate them from their race.
  8. [11:54:33 AM] Adwiidwii: I use kin as a coping mechanism to keep myself stronger from my past abuse.
  9. [11:55:05 AM] finn: that doesnt really excuse appropriation
  10. [11:56:06 AM] finn: like if theres anything you can do for poc its respecting the representation they get
  11. [11:57:19 AM] Adwiidwii: Man, i rly wish i could like??? Tell you i'll stop but :T I don't rly think that the feelings i have for the characters i kin will stop y'know? I can't really control this? If I could I would.
  12. [11:57:47 AM] finn: you should make the effort to distance yourself
  13. [11:57:51 AM] finn: if you really care
  14. [11:58:12 AM] finn: i know it can be hard like i had to drop my biggest coping ID a few days ago bc i was getting too old to id as a child character
  15. [11:58:47 AM | Edited 12:00:50 PM] finn: sorry if i sound mean or something i just want u to find something healthy to use to cope. if theres anything to use to cope with abuse it shouldnt be at the expense of another minority.
  16. [12:02:25 PM] Adwiidwii: You're telling me this, and I already know, I've gotten this talk before. I don't ID as the characters themselves, I'm just?? I resonate with them. They look like how i would if i had that kind of inner strength. I'm not making excuses for myself, I know its bad, but I can't just up and drop them without going through a process of emmense pain at losing one of my few coping skills i have to deal with the situation I'm in.
  17. [12:03:14 PM] Adwiidwii: I'm still in an abusive situation, I'm still struggling. I need a purchase to hold onto or I'm not gonna be able to survive this.
  18. [12:03:39 PM] finn: listen, i fuckin know. doesnt matter if you sayyou dont ACTUALLY id as them youre still calling it kin like theres no excuse
  19. [12:03:44 PM] finn: im not telling you to rip away from it
  20. [12:04:07 PM] finn: ive been iding as a character for almost a year and i KNOW I HAVE TO GET AWAY FROM HIM so I AM. its out of respect.
  21. [12:04:23 PM] finn: im sorry about your abuse, alright? im not rtying to make you feel like shit. thats not my goal.
  22. [12:04:34 PM] Adwiidwii: Well you kind of are, just sayin'.
  23. [12:04:41 PM] finn: sorry about that.
  24. [12:04:42 PM] Adwiidwii: It's not like I can help this shit, yeah?
  25. [12:04:47 PM] finn: you can, though.
  26. [12:04:54 PM] finn: you literally can. dont act as if you cant.
  27. [12:06:06 PM] finn: i understand that its a coping method. but coping methods can be extremely harmful and disrespectful. im just saying that's what it is.
  28. [12:06:45 PM] finn: dont say its impossible to distance yourself from it. its not.
  29. [12:08:09 PM] Adwiidwii: I understand and I acknowledge that. I'm not trying to say I'm POC when I'm not. I'm just working with what I have at the moment. And later on, when I'm able to get out of the situation I'm currently in, I know I can do that but for right now, I'm a trans guy that's not on t, not respected at my home or place of employment, and feeling like I'm being scolded by someone younger than me for something that I use to get by.
  30. [12:09:51 PM] finn: youre saying you are characters who are poc so ur saying youre poc. theres nothing else to it.
  31. [12:10:02 PM] finn: dont compare me with abuse.
  32. [12:10:13 PM] finn: doesnt matter that im younger than you.
  33. [12:10:36 PM] finn: those other things suck, i know, alright? but there are other ways to cope.
  34. [12:11:41 PM] Adwiidwii: Dude it's obvious that we're not gonna see eye to eye so i'm just gonna stop this right now because I cannot handle it, I've got another day of retail hell, i haven't taken my meds, I'm stressed out already, and I just???? it feels like I'm getting yelled at for something I can't much help right now.
  35. [12:11:56 PM] finn: you can help it though lmao
  36. [12:12:02 PM] finn: dont run from the problem
  37. [12:12:07 PM] finn: all im saying is youre doing something racist
  38. [12:12:18 PM] finn: im not tellling you to stop iding as fictional characters
  39. [12:12:32 PM] finn: im saying its racist and appropriative to do it with those youre currently iding as
  40. [12:12:47 PM] Adwiidwii: You're telling me to stop iding as the ones who make me feel a little less like shit rn
  41. [12:12:48 PM] finn: im not saying its easy to distance yourself
  42. [12:13:06 PM] finn: im not saying it bc i want you to feel like shit youre acting like i am
  43. [12:13:16 PM] finn: what im saying has no connection to your personal life
  44. [12:13:42 PM] Adwiidwii: it's not possible for me right now. I'm not going to go through with this. You obviously do not understand when i said i'm gonna stop talking.
  45. [12:13:55 PM] Adwiidwii: please don't contact me over this again.
  46. [12:14:07 PM] finn: have fun being a racist then
  47. [12:14:25 PM] finn: "Aes: Dice, Sake, Sakura Petals, Swords, Japan, Shintoism"
  48. [12:14:37 PM] finn: "aesthetic: japan" u even tryna hide it now or
  49. [12:14:45 PM] Adwiidwii: wow can you fucking stop
  50. [12:14:48 PM] Adwiidwii: just stop
  51. [12:14:54 PM] finn: same @ u
  52. [12:14:57 PM] finn: just stop
  53. [12:14:58 PM] finn: tbh
  54. [12:15:04 PM] Adwiidwii: i told you to stop and ur keeping on going, thanks for the fucking harrassment
  55. [12:15:26 PM] finn: litearlly all im saying is that ur racist and your response is to come up with excuses
  56. [12:15:35 PM] finn: its not harrassment
  57. [12:15:44 PM] Adwiidwii: Stop.
  58. [12:15:46 PM] finn: stop fucking saying that its fucking not
  59. [12:15:47 PM] Adwiidwii: Stop.
  60. [12:15:49 PM] finn: lol
  61. [12:15:50 PM] Adwiidwii: Stop.
  62. [12:15:55 PM] Adwiidwii: Stop
  63. [12:15:59 PM] Adwiidwii: Just stop
  64. [12:16:02 PM] Adwiidwii: Leave me alone.
  65. [12:16:11 PM] finn: youre a racist.
  66. [12:16:19 PM] finn: ive told you that and you refuse to do anything about it.
  67. [12:16:25 PM] finn: what does that say about you?
  68. [12:16:28 PM] finn: you know theres other ways.
  69. [12:17:13 PM] Adwiidwii: just leave me alone ok
  70. [12:17:29 PM] finn: no more excuses?
  71. [12:17:41 PM] Adwiidwii: you're harrassing me, I told you to stop talking to me.
  72. [12:17:51 PM] Adwiidwii: that's literally harrassment.
  73. [12:17:55 PM] finn: omg
  74. [12:18:10 PM] finn: look im sorry you feel like shit and im sorry about your situation but this has nothing to do with it
  75. [12:18:26 PM] Adwiidwii: look you are the one maKING ME FEEL LIKE SHIT RIGHT NOW.
  76. [12:18:28 PM] Adwiidwii: right now
  77. [12:18:30 PM] Adwiidwii: you are
  78. [12:18:42 PM] finn: because im calling you racsit and pointing out something youre doing wrong.
  79. [12:18:50 PM] finn: if you feel like shit because of that, thats not on me.
  80. [12:18:54 PM] finn: thats on you.
  81. [12:19:01 PM] Adwiidwii: please stop talking to me.
  82. [12:19:23 PM] finn: you dont even respond cuz you know im making sense :')
  83. [12:19:43 PM] Adwiidwii: Do you not know what stop means?
  84. [12:19:52 PM] finn: i do!
  85. [12:20:09 PM] Adwiidwii: then you're actively going against someone asking you to stop talking to them
  86. [12:20:28 PM] finn: being in a bad situation yourself doesnt give you a license to appropriative, you can find some other way to cope.
  87. [12:20:28 PM] Adwiidwii: I'm not dealing with this right now, I'm too fucking stressed out now, thanks a fucking bunch.
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