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  1. Its really hard so see how anal this staff is sometimes
  2. [8/11/2014 12:11:25 AM] Sebastian | Romao1056: kewl.
  3. [8/11/2014 12:13:14 AM] [ Raiden | NecroRuki ]: You're free to leave, anytime.
  4. [8/11/2014 12:15:19 AM] [ Raiden | NecroRuki ]: Frankly, I don't take disrespect of staff lightly. And people need to learn to follow rules, if they're going to go anywhere in life; jobs, colleges/higher education, military. They wouldn't tolerate blatant disrespect, why would we?
  5. [8/11/2014 12:15:39 AM] /Chris: Because its a game.
  6. [8/11/2014 12:15:49 AM] [ Raiden | NecroRuki ]: And this is a job, even if it's volunteer work
  7. [8/11/2014 12:15:57 AM] /Chris: Jesus christ. you get all butt blasted because they say something over a video game?
  8. [8/11/2014 12:15:58 AM] Brittanee: well
  9. [8/11/2014 12:16:02 AM] /Chris: What do you do in real life?
  10. [8/11/2014 12:16:05 AM] /Chris: kick them?
  11. [8/11/2014 12:16:07 AM] /Chris: Mute them?
  12. [8/11/2014 12:16:08 AM] Atticus (Noah Corbett): Chris.m
  13. [8/11/2014 12:16:11 AM] Brittanee: to be fair I don't count this as a job
  14. [8/11/2014 12:16:13 AM] /Chris: or IGNORE them
  15. [8/11/2014 12:16:27 AM] Atticus (Noah Corbett): Chris.
  16. [8/11/2014 12:16:32 AM] /Chris: What.
  17. [8/11/2014 12:16:37 AM | Edited 12:16:49 AM] [ Raiden | NecroRuki ]: I'm just explaining why it's treated as it is.
  18. [8/11/2014 12:16:40 AM] /Chris: This really bugs me.
  19. [8/11/2014 12:16:52 AM] Atticus (Noah Corbett): You're free to express your opinion same as her, no need to get into an argument over it.
  20. [8/11/2014 12:16:56 AM] /Chris: Im not.
  21. [8/11/2014 12:17:00 AM] [ Raiden | NecroRuki ]: You're the one who's getting quite upset, I'm just explaining
  22. [8/11/2014 12:17:12 AM] Atticus (Noah Corbett): Raided, just drop it, please,
  23. [8/11/2014 12:17:14 AM] /Chris: Im speaking my mind. you can choose to ignore me
  24. [8/11/2014 12:17:22 AM] Atticus (Noah Corbett): Raiden*
  25. [8/11/2014 12:17:35 AM] /Chris: This is exactly why i cannot stand Paradise staff. Some of you, are just complete control freaks. Its sad to see how paradise is dying, and most people leave because the staff is to stubborn to hear anything, but their own fucking commands. People get banned for speaking whats on their mind? really? i understand advertising, i understand cussing, and i understand spam. But disrespect to staff? really?! I mean, what do you do in real life, if somebody is mean to you. Fight or flight. Why isnt /ignore a command accessable to all players and staff? If somebody is bugging you, whats stopping you from typing /ignore? I cant understand why you hire control freaks to run your server. This server used to be packed. Reaching player limits. I really find it hard to believe, if you do /banlist in survival, your minecraft crashes. But its sadly true. I do not agree how you run your server, and i do not agree with the staff 90% of the time.
  26. [8/11/2014 12:17:57 AM] /Chris: I cant begin to understand, why you kick players, for being disrespectful. espically ban them.
  27. [8/11/2014 12:18:22 AM] /Chris: I cant begin to understand why you ban without a counter arguement
  28. [8/11/2014 12:18:45 AM] /Chris: I cant understand, how we lose so many players, due to the staff, that you dont even realise you should change your ways
  29. [8/11/2014 12:19:22 AM] /Chris: You ban players, who donated real life money, because they said a few words that made you "angry". Get a fucking life
  30. [8/11/2014 12:19:23 AM] *** /Chris has left ***
  31. [8/11/2014 12:41:17 AM] Jon | shipmaterh: is the website glitched for anyone else?
  32. [8/11/2014 12:42:13 AM] [ Raiden | NecroRuki ]: How so?
  33. [8/11/2014 12:43:18 AM] Jon | shipmaterh: http://prntscr.com/4bn4tz
  34. [8/11/2014 12:43:53 AM] Janalie | rose03263: Nope.
  35. [8/11/2014 12:50:01 AM] Time Lord Whiteie: That happens when the page doesn't load correctly.
  36. [8/11/2014 12:50:54 AM] Atticus (Noah Corbett): How very astute of you. =P
  37. [8/11/2014 1:15:02 AM] Atticus (Noah Corbett): Anyone want a relatively easy and fast project?
  38. [8/11/2014 1:15:49 AM] Janalie | rose03263: Sure
  39. [8/11/2014 1:15:59 AM] Jon | shipmaterh: what is it?
  40. [8/11/2014 1:16:53 AM] Atticus (Noah Corbett): I'll pm you ship.
  41. [8/11/2014 1:33:46 AM] Atticus (Noah Corbett): Alright, ship.
  42. [8/11/2014 1:35:10 AM] Jon | shipmaterh: kk
  43. [8/11/2014 1:35:50 AM] Atticus (Noah Corbett): Now, would you mind pasting here what you just told me in pms? For the record, for any of you wondering, I asked him to look up all the times respect was mentioned on the rules page, and in the punishments document.
  44. [8/11/2014 1:36:11 AM] Jon | shipmaterh: [Monday, August 11, 2014 1:30 AM] Ba3 Alp:
  45.  
  46. <<< Website>General Website Guidelines >1 "Be respectful " Server>Global Server Rules>1 "Be respectful." Server>Playing Rules>1 "Be respectful "
  47. [8/11/2014 1:36:23 AM] Jon | shipmaterh: server>chat>7 "Bothering, harassing, or trolling other players is not allowed.
  48. A. If you're asked to stop spamming them for whatever reason, or any other form of harassment, trolling, annoyance etc. you must do so."
  49. [8/11/2014 1:37:00 AM] Atticus (Noah Corbett): And punishments doc?
  50. [8/11/2014 1:37:04 AM] Jon | shipmaterh: nothing
  51. [8/11/2014 1:37:54 AM] Jon | shipmaterh: O wait Harassment
  52. Like with the other chat based infractions:
  53. 1-3 Warning
  54. 4-6 Kick
  55. 7-13 Mute
  56. 10, 20, 30, 60, 120, Permanent
  57. [8/11/2014 1:38:24 AM] Atticus (Noah Corbett): But there's nothing about respect, correct?
  58. [8/11/2014 1:38:30 AM] Jon | shipmaterh: yup
  59. [8/11/2014 1:41:48 AM] Jerwynn|Darkgreensky|Clearbluesea|Lightredground: If it's okay for me to say something here: http://prntscr.com/4bney1
  60. [8/11/2014 1:42:57 AM] Atticus (Noah Corbett): What of it?
  61. Also, Raiden, when you get back, would you mind copying over my comment on the punishment document?
  62. [8/11/2014 1:43:13 AM] Jerwynn|Darkgreensky|Clearbluesea|Lightredground: Just thought I'd point it out
  63. [8/11/2014 1:43:51 AM] [ Raiden | NecroRuki ]: Oh yeah, one moment
  64. [8/11/2014 1:44:45 AM] [ Raiden | NecroRuki ]: "Part of the reason why it's not on the punishment doc is because if you go here: http://www.paradise-mc.net/rules, unless I'm mistaken, there is no rule about respecting staff. There is a 'reminder' rule, number 7 under server > chat rules for harassment and such towards players, not necessarily staff."
  65. [8/11/2014 1:45:26 AM] [ Raiden | NecroRuki ]: It won't let me copy the message itself, just the text. But, viola
  66. [8/11/2014 1:45:33 AM | Edited 1:45:55 AM] Jon | shipmaterh: use ctrl+c on the selected text
  67. [8/11/2014 1:46:00 AM] [ Raiden | NecroRuki ]: I'm on my phone, so that won't work ;p
  68. [8/11/2014 1:46:15 AM] Nathan Young/Umbrella_Corp_99: Jon I have a question
  69. [8/11/2014 1:47:18 AM] Jon | shipmaterh: pm :P
  70. [8/11/2014 1:53:13 AM] [ Raiden | NecroRuki ]: "He does understand, he just thinks it's ridiculous, it is, I've never advocated for people to ban or even get past a kick if it's excessive, like harassment level,
  71.  
  72. I usually just do mutes, if it gets bad; like language.
  73.  
  74. And you don't need to apologize.
  75. But you should warn for language, not respect.
  76.  
  77. Oh, I thought we ought to warn for both. It wasn't exactly covered in the punishments doc.
  78.  
  79. Know why?
  80.  
  81. Because it's not important?
  82.  
  83. More or less.
  84. You shouldn't really take action against disrespect. I wrote that document intentionally, so.."
  85. [8/11/2014 1:58:36 AM] Atticus (Noah Corbett): Thanks.
  86. My point in asking you both to paste these here is to use an example. Granted, I haven't been doing a good job as head of staff lately, but that's not really an excuse for you to create new rules that fit your 'needs' at the time. Chris is confrontational (when things need to be said), and rash, I'll give him that; but he isn't entirely wrong. This has been a growing problem for, once again, months; and it needs to stop.
  87. [8/11/2014 2:54:53 AM] Abzz-Abdul: I'd also like to add in, you're allowed to hand out consequences to a certainextent for disrespect, but not for disrespect of staff, being staff does not give you any form of higher respect than anyone else.
  88. [8/11/2014 2:57:49 AM] Atticus (Noah Corbett): Nothing past a warning or kick at the most for being disrespectful. It will more than likely be coupled with something else like language, which you should be taking action against, not necessarily the act of disrespect.
  89. [8/11/2014 9:00:06 AM] Aaron Weldy | Jweldy: I treat disrespect to myself the same that I'd treat disrespect to any player, there's really no reason to do otherwise
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