[6:47:42 PM] Kevin Rickert: I know I'm probably the last person you want to talk to.. but..
[6:47:49 PM] Kevin Rickert: Have you heard anything at all from Tiffany
[6:48:16 PM] Kevin Rickert: She told me that she was meeting her friend Alicia today around 1 PM our time..
[6:48:27 PM] Kevin Rickert: Her parents are getting worried... and so am I
[6:49:27 PM] Kevin Rickert: We haven't heard anything from her at all
[6:49:37 PM] Kevin Rickert: Sorry for bothering you..
[7:11:16 PM] *** Slip has shared contact details with Kevin Rickert. ***
[7:13:39 PM] Slip: shoot I just got home
[7:13:51 PM] Slip: it's no problem at all kevin
[7:14:04 PM] Slip: I haven't heard from her since last night
[7:16:28 PM] Slip: i know you're probably away right now but know i don't mind talking to you in the least
[7:16:34 PM] Kevin Rickert: I just got home
[7:16:43 PM] Kevin Rickert: Sorry, I didn't want to text and drive
[7:16:49 PM] Slip: np
[7:17:14 PM] Slip: can't really get annoyed over that
[7:17:16 PM] Slip: any news?
[7:17:30 PM] Kevin Rickert: No..
[7:18:12 PM] Kevin Rickert: She was supposed to meet a friend from high school named Alicia at 1
[7:18:31 PM] Kevin Rickert: She told me it was just a lunch get together thing.. and didn't think it'd be very long.. but its 8 now
[7:19:24 PM] Slip: do you know if she had her phone with her? i know she can only use it when she has net but..
[7:19:35 PM] Kevin Rickert: I would presume so...
[7:19:47 PM] Kevin Rickert: Steam says she was online four hours ago
[7:20:08 PM] Kevin Rickert: Asheville should have lots of Wi-Fi.. and she should also have Alicia's phone
[7:20:29 PM] Slip: do you think she was at her chill spot at the creek?
[7:20:43 PM] Slip: she did say her brother and cousins were clearing a trail there
[7:21:04 PM] Kevin Rickert: Her parents took her to meet her friend near our old High School.. which.. struck me as odd..
[7:21:22 PM] Kevin Rickert: I went over to her house around six..
[7:21:37 PM] Kevin Rickert: I'm just.. really worried now.. and her parents are too
[7:22:09 PM] Slip: those are some pretty worrisome news to be fair
[7:23:06 PM] Slip: but i think the best thing to do in this situation is to stay calm and keep an eye and ear out, as simple as that seems
[7:23:36 PM] Slip: so if the last time she was online was about 4? your time
[7:24:25 PM] Kevin Rickert: According to Steam, but I know she leaves her PC on
[7:24:36 PM] Kevin Rickert: And apparently her internet is out (according to her mom)
[7:25:00 PM] Slip: hmm
[7:25:45 PM] Slip: do you know what they were planning on doing besides lunch?
[7:25:58 PM] Kevin Rickert: No..
[7:26:20 PM] Kevin Rickert: She just told me it was lunch.. and that she didn't think she'd be with her long
[7:26:37 PM] Kevin Rickert: But... she doesn't.. always tell me everything..
[7:27:02 PM] Slip: yeah..
[7:27:19 PM] Slip: but i don't think she's one to outright lie either
[7:27:32 PM] Kevin Rickert: She has before..
[7:27:57 PM] Slip: often?
[7:28:06 PM] Kevin Rickert: No.. but.. it's.. happened
[7:28:19 PM] Kevin Rickert: Like.. for example.. when she went to see you
[7:28:28 PM] Kevin Rickert: That's.. the most recent example
[7:29:24 PM] Slip: I can't exactly vouch for her and i don't know what she said
[7:30:27 PM] Slip: but i do know if that sort of thing was happening, she'd be constantly thinking about you and that she wouldn't do something like that after you've just started working stuff out; but i don't think that sort of thing is what you're getting at
[7:30:53 PM] Kevin Rickert: I don't think that is what is going on..
[7:31:26 PM] Slip: for the most part i do trust tiff to take care of herself in a more. scary situation -yeah
[7:31:41 PM] Kevin Rickert: I'm sorry.. its the elephant in the room..
[7:31:49 PM] Kevin Rickert: It's why I figured you probably didn't want to talk
[7:31:56 PM] Slip: nah it's no problem
[7:32:13 PM] Slip: if anything i should be the one apologizing
[7:32:32 PM] Kevin Rickert: According to what she told me.. theres no way you could have known..
[7:32:53 PM] Kevin Rickert: She said she told you that we weren't a thing.. or at the very least.. we were in an "open" relationship.. I guess...
[7:33:22 PM] Slip: that is the kind of thing she hinted at
[7:33:36 PM] Slip: but she never really said anything about your relationship
[7:33:49 PM] Slip: and i just. couldn't bring myself to ask
[7:34:11 PM] Kevin Rickert: Its not been perfect.. I understand that... I just.. didn't think it was....... that bad..
[7:34:29 PM] Kevin Rickert: The last.. really... two years have been rocky..
[7:34:56 PM] Kevin Rickert: I know I haven't been perfect.. but I've been trying to fix that
[7:35:09 PM] Slip: you've both made some mistakes from what I've seen. and i don't think you're a bad person- just abrasive at times. and i want that
[7:35:21 PM] Slip: bc i know she loves you, despite what she's don't
[7:35:25 PM] Slip: done*
[7:35:32 PM] Kevin Rickert: Between school, work, and my dad passing... it's been really tough
[7:35:45 PM] Slip: and i can tell you care about her greatly-yeah
[7:35:52 PM] Kevin Rickert: I know I've let it get the best of me..
[7:36:06 PM] Kevin Rickert: But I really do love her with all my heart.. and.. I don't want anybody else
[7:36:33 PM] Kevin Rickert: I want more than anything in this world for her to want me.. but.. I don't.. really know if that's the case
[7:36:46 PM] Kevin Rickert: I know she still has feelings for you.. and that.. probably won't go away
[7:37:51 PM] Slip: i honestly still have feelings for her too
but she still has feelings for you that i don't think would go away and
[7:38:21 PM] Slip: you're a good person and i think. you can give her more than i can
[7:39:07 PM] Slip: i mean
[7:39:15 PM] Kevin Rickert: I'm scared the feelings she has for me are.. very few and far between..
[7:39:21 PM] Kevin Rickert: That's what she told me.........
[7:39:32 PM] Slip: what day was it?
[7:39:38 PM] Kevin Rickert: I want more than anything to rekindle that and fix this..
[7:39:56 PM] Slip: the first day you were discussing it or the second?
[7:40:16 PM] Kevin Rickert: The day she broke it off...
[7:40:26 PM] Kevin Rickert: And somewhat the next day..
[7:40:37 PM] Kevin Rickert: I asked her if we could just.. talk on Skype for a little..
[7:40:55 PM] Kevin Rickert: It ended up being more than a little.. but.. that was before we really talked about fixing anything
[7:41:18 PM] Slip: she was pretty upset both days
[7:41:44 PM] Slip: i wanted to make sure she slept on it after that second day before she made any big decisions
[7:42:16 PM] Slip: and. i'll admit i was pretty worried that something had happened when she had disappeared most of the next day
[7:42:34 PM] Slip: but it made me really happy to know she was going to work on stuff with you
[7:42:55 PM] Slip: because. i don't know
[7:43:59 PM] Slip: bc in a weird way i don't want you to go on alone without her- because tiff doesn't want you to end up unhappy, to put it in simplest terms
[7:44:28 PM] Slip: and I'm happy enough with just her companionship
[7:44:48 PM] Kevin Rickert: I don't want her to just be with me because she doesn't want me to be unhappy..
[7:44:58 PM] Kevin Rickert: That's... not right..
[7:45:11 PM] Slip: no
[7:45:39 PM] Slip: but  i do remember how she'd carry your shirt around the house like a child would with a teddy bear
[7:46:04 PM] Slip: and missed home and more specifically you late at night
[7:46:09 PM] Kevin Rickert: Also.. apparently she is home now.. she just texted me from her moms phone
[7:46:20 PM] Slip: :DDDD
[7:46:26 PM] Slip: that's a relief
[7:46:46 PM] Kevin Rickert: I'm just... scared..
[7:47:01 PM] Kevin Rickert: We've been together for 4 and a half years..
[7:47:17 PM] Kevin Rickert: That's a lot of time.. especially for a couple that met in high school
[7:47:26 PM] Slip: yeah
[7:47:31 PM] Kevin Rickert: I don't want to throw that away...
[7:47:44 PM] Kevin Rickert: I know I'm not the best at being a good boyfriend all the time..
[7:47:55 PM] Slip: listen to her kevin
[7:48:06 PM] Slip: that's the most advice i can give
[7:49:00 PM] Slip: being gentle works just as well as going rough as well- bc we did end up talking about stuff and everything involved before the initial fall out
[7:49:39 PM] Slip: a nd that's the most awkward unsolicited advice I'm going to give
[7:50:04 PM] Kevin Rickert: I struggle... a lot with that area
[7:50:11 PM] Kevin Rickert: I feel like no matter what I do.. I do it wrong
[7:50:23 PM] Kevin Rickert: Too gentle and she gets bored and doesn't want to continue
[7:50:29 PM] Kevin Rickert: Too rough and she stops communicating
[7:50:39 PM] Kevin Rickert: All she ever talks about is wanting things rough
[7:51:03 PM] Kevin Rickert: And.. I'll be perfectly honest.. I'm not a huge fan of rough... I'm not much of a dom type
[7:51:14 PM] Kevin Rickert: But she has always made it like that's what she wants...
[7:51:32 PM] Slip: the thing is with that area is
[7:51:58 PM] Slip: being rough isn't that simple you kind of have to pay close attention to the other person
[7:52:12 PM] Slip: which is kind of hard during that kind of thing
[7:52:22 PM] Kevin Rickert: I realize that.. but its very hard to understand her a lot of times
[7:52:31 PM] Slip: ye  ah
[7:52:32 PM] Kevin Rickert: Between body language and.. frankly.. a lack of communication
[7:52:45 PM] Kevin Rickert: I just.. don't know what to do
[7:52:59 PM] Slip: go gentle
[7:53:10 PM] Slip: tease around where she wants you go
[7:53:38 PM] Slip: ease yourself until she's begging for more and then let her have it
[7:54:14 PM] Slip: but there's more ah. lets go with sweet spots besides her neck and downstairs and chest
[7:54:32 PM] Slip: like right under her belly button on her lower stomach
[7:54:57 PM] Kevin Rickert: I wish I was as in tune with her as you are..
[7:55:39 PM] Kevin Rickert: I want to make her happy.. in both regards
[7:55:45 PM] Slip: keep in mind we've been weirdly dirty talking to each other through smut and seeing what we've both found attractive for awhile
[7:56:29 PM] Slip: i personally talk dirty bc i don't really feel that experienced with my mouth
[7:56:35 PM] Kevin Rickert:  I'm aware..
[7:56:56 PM] Slip: she really likes the simple stuff too which i found surprising
[7:57:06 PM] Slip: just kissing and being held after
[7:57:23 PM] Slip: those are two big ones
[7:58:04 PM] Kevin Rickert: Such as part of my problem is that I'm not good with the dirty talk thing because frankly I'm awkward and I find that makes things even more awkward and cringing out of my mouth
[7:58:40 PM] Slip: dude i cannot tell you half the embarrassing shit i spouted out of my mouth
[7:58:49 PM] Slip: its just tiff
[7:58:57 PM] Slip: she's not going to laugh at you
[7:59:46 PM] Kevin Rickert: The other thing is I know that the things that she finds attractive for to be perfectly honest not me and I understand that because I'm going to lie to you not exactly the image of male physique
[8:00:23 PM] Slip: you mean that you're fluffy with back hair
[8:01:12 PM] Slip: i know that when she found a character with a similar quality she'd get waaaay more flustered over that character
[8:01:50 PM] Kevin Rickert: I I mean well and that I'm overweight not well endowed my endurance leaves a little to be desired
[8:02:17 PM] Kevin Rickert: Fucking text to speech
[8:02:29 PM] Slip: non of those are bad things though
[8:02:33 PM] Slip: none*
[8:02:40 PM] Kevin Rickert: I mean that*
[8:03:14 PM] Kevin Rickert: I feel like that's what she wants but doesn't have the heart to say it
[8:03:51 PM] Slip: i mean
[8:04:19 PM] Slip: i don't think she wouldn't enjoy those qualities on someone else but
[8:04:35 PM] Slip: i honestly cant wrap my mind around leaving someone for that
[8:04:58 PM] Slip: i don't think she want you to change so drastically for her either
[8:05:27 PM] Kevin Rickert: I'm not so sure of that
[8:05:49 PM] Slip: i don't think tiff is that shallow
[8:06:33 PM] Kevin Rickert: I'm not trying to say I think she shallow I'm trying to say is that I think she wishes I was a little more attractive
[8:07:05 PM] Kevin Rickert: I'm not really the spitting image of being attractive and I feel like if I'm honest if she was single again she wouldn't have any trouble at all finding someone else and I feel like I would personally
[8:07:54 PM] Slip: dude you have a cute crooked smile, are pleasant to cuddle, you have a very nice voice
[8:08:17 PM] Slip: you're just abrasive
[8:08:22 PM] Slip: change takes time
[8:08:33 PM] Slip: and have to learn to communicate
[8:08:53 PM] Slip: even if its just a simple "do you like this?" and stopping until she responds
[8:09:15 PM] Kevin Rickert: And I feel like that doesn't really help the whole sex thing
[8:09:32 PM] Slip: i know the idea of this makes you uncomfortable but
[8:09:51 PM] Slip: i'd try reading smut
[8:09:58 PM] Slip: good smut
[8:10:13 PM] Kevin Rickert: Honestly I feel like our problems are deeper than that I just don't really feel like what she wants
[8:10:35 PM] Slip: tell her that
[8:11:07 PM] Slip: isn't this a sort of trial period of you two fixing things?
[8:11:23 PM] Slip: i can't speak for tiff
[8:11:59 PM] Slip: but the reason i feel so comfortable with her is that i feel comfortable enough with her to just drop out of left field with stuff in our relationship that's bothering me
[8:12:05 PM] Slip: and she does the same for me
[8:12:22 PM] Slip: and it gets shit off of both our chests
[8:12:50 PM] Slip: when something like that happens to you just cant sit there dumbstruck
[8:13:01 PM] Slip: if anything is bothering  you
[8:13:06 PM] Slip: tell her
[8:13:25 PM] Slip: if its important enough to put you in a rotten mood for a week she has a right to know
[8:14:53 PM] Slip: i don't think i can change your opinions or fix your relationship but i think the most you two can do rn is communicate and listen
[8:14:59 PM] Slip: that goes for tiff too
[8:17:37 PM] Slip: I'm probably just saying obvious shit for all this
[8:17:56 PM] Slip: and not really helping
[8:18:42 PM] Slip: but. i do want you two to patch things up. i honestly just don't know how.
[8:19:23 PM] Slip: I'm not really experienced in this sort of thing
[8:19:38 PM] Slip: but if you want change
[8:20:04 PM] Slip: you're going to have to
[8:20:08 PM] Slip: both of you