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  1. Alex/Elite77 cheating:
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  3. Suspicious games:
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  5. http://www.epicmafia.com/game/1679774 Elite is the bulletproof, Alex is the gunsmith. Someone claims bulletproof, Elite doesn't cc and they NL. Alex guns Elite anyway. .
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  7. Expert from the GY:
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  9. elite77
  10. nop man he always gun me and always gum him
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  12. elite77
  13. i don care whats hes mafia or tow
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  15. elite77
  16. thats our rule so enjoy o gtfo :D
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  19. http://www.epicmafia.com/game/1675583 Alex dies n1 as traitor, Elite77 is also traitor. D2, Elite, as traitor, claims stalker with a stalk on the vig who he would have no way of knowing. Confidently pushes on him.
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  22. http://www.epicmafia.com/game/1674677 Alex traitor, Elite traitor. Elite dies n1. D3 they need to lynch a mason for the mafia to win, Alex claims stalker with a stalker report on Mermaid when he, once again isn't stalker. Pairing this game with game 1675583, it seems that there's either cheating or a lot of dumb luck going on here.
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  24. http://www.epicmafia.com/game/1648688 Night 7, Elite dies N1, Alex is mason, confidently gets a correct stalker "read" and yells at anyone who disagrees with him on it.
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  26. http://www.epicmafia.com/game/1605522 Alex is cop, Elite blue, Elite dies N1 and Alex investigates his CC N2. Instead of claiming guilty on his cc, he claims with a guilty on the other mafia who he didn't investigate. Note that this game also goes back a month, so they've been playing together for a long time.
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  28. http://www.epicmafia.com/game/1679619 Elite vig, Alex traitor, Elite shoots Alex N1, something that he NEVER DOES. N2, Elite shoots the stalker. It's pretty possible that Elite killed Alex so Alex could tell him who the stalker was.
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  30. Mildly suspicious:
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  32. http://www.epicmafia.com/game/1679828 Elite masons Alex N1, they don't talk in the night meetings.
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  34. http://www.epicmafia.com/game/1679661 Alex stalks the real stalker the night after Elite dies as a traitor.
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  36. http://www.epicmafia.com/game/1675690 Nothing terrible here, but Elite77 is stalker, Alex is traitor, Elite stalks the tracker n1 and n2 stalks the same person and kills Alex. Potentially so that Alex could learn the roles, although he makes no move to do so in the GY.
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  39. http://www.epicmafia.com/game/1675669 Alex masons Elite77 n1, they don't talk during the night
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  41. http://www.epicmafia.com/game/1675530 Elite mason, Alex fool, n4 Elite confidently knows that Alex is fool and to mason him. Not extremely suspicious considering the circumstances of the game, but still worth noting.
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  43. http://www.epicmafia.com/game/1661580 N1, Alex is traitor, Elite is tracker, Alex gets nightkilled, Elite tracks the stalker n2 after Alex dies and once again, wins the game.
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  45. http://www.epicmafia.com/game/1622675 Elite claims cop d1 to protect the real cop from dying, his innocent choice is Alex. What's particulary bad about this game though is that D2, Elite very, VERY confidently townreads Alex without any questioning, scumhunting or thinking and Alex votes with him right away.
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  49. Neutral games:
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  51. http://www.epicmafia.com/game/1675657 Nothing here suggest rolesharing, just luck.
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  53. http://www.epicmafia.com/game/1675624 Game vegs uot before anything can happen.
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  55. http://www.epicmafia.com/game/1662358 Elite tracks the stalker N1 and wins the game quickly due to vig shot.
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  57. http://www.epicmafia.com/game/1629546 veg n1
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  59. http://www.epicmafia.com/game/1618890 Alex fos's Elite as mafia d1 which is slightly suspicious, Elite nightkills Alex so he won't.
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  61. http://www.epicmafia.com/game/1650696 This is a game in competitive lobby where Elite is mafia and Alex is blue. Elite's partner leads on Alex N1 and Elite makes no objections.
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  63. http://www.epicmafia.com/game/1679712 Elite kills Alex n1.
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  65. http://www.epicmafia.com/game/1679700 Alex kills elite n1.
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  67. Games against cheating:
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  69. http://www.epicmafia.com/game/1675593 Elite and Alex are both blue in O2R. Elite insults Alex and temporarily tries to lead on him. However, he quickly switches back to another player and townreads Alex, so it's nothing huge. Weird interaction for cheating partners, though.
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  71. http://www.epicmafia.com/game/1674732 Elite vig, Alex dead traitor. Elite n2 shoots the mason who's masoning him. This points against cheating unless Elite is throwing for Alex.
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  73. http://www.epicmafia.com/game/1648744 Elite dies n1 as vig, Alex gets himself lynched and makes no push on anyone even though he could know the roles.
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  75. http://www.epicmafia.com/game/1679738 Alex thinks d2 in the graveyard that Elite is mafia.
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  77. Anything else:
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  79. It looks to me llike we either have meta abuse or cheating. There are a lot of games here that could be completely due to chance and not actual cheating, but the fact that Alex and Elite have been playing together with different setups in different lobbies for months on end means that Alex's argument that "we just enjoy the same setup and the community is small" is invalid.
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