Pie_Crust

<sophiama1ter> say google.com and download a web page
<sophiama1ter> you could.
<Pie_Crust> Sounds wierd.\
<sophiama1ter> lol
<Pie_Crust> 8Bit CPUs connecting to 32bit webpages.
<Pie_Crust> =\
<sophiama1ter> ...!
<sophiama1ter> what is a 32 bit web page?
<sophiama1ter> :P
<sophiama1ter> dafuq
<Pie_Crust> The packet size google uses.
<theboos> 32 bit packets? :O
<Pie_Crust> Google's colors are 32bits, RPC's are 2bits. (Light green and green)
<theboos> ah
<sophiama1ter> I didn't say you had to download color.
<sophiama1ter> ever heard of a CLI web browser?
<Pie_Crust> Google's text is 32 bits. RPC's is 2 bit. (Caps and lower are same font)
<sophiama1ter> google lynx web browser, elinks, links, etc
<Pie_Crust> Sophia, I'm saying that RPC should only connect to 8bit pages
<sophiama1ter> No, it wouldn't.
<Pie_Crust> The packet size RPC uses is 8.
<sophiama1ter> That's not how networks work.
<Pie_Crust> The packet size webpages are using is 32.
<Pie_Crust> It ALL depends on the packet size
<sophiama1ter> actually
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<sophiama1ter> HTML doesn't work that way
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<Pie_Crust> HTML doesn't
<Pie_Crust> But aspx does
<sophiama1ter> ...
<theboos> ?
<Pie_Crust> You can't have 8bits connect to 32. Same with MC. You can't use 1.2.5 mods with 1.7.3 BETA MC
<sophiama1ter> wrong. TCP does. and that's only a visual representation, that's not the length of the packets.
<sophiama1ter> Pie_Crust: you obviously don't know how networks work :P
<Pie_Crust> I do, actualli
<Pie_Crust> Actually*
<sophiama1ter> damn the box is off
<sophiama1ter> anyhow
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<Pie_Crust> There's no fucking way an 8 bit computer connect or even USE 32 bit shit.
<sophiama1ter> Wrong.
<sophiama1ter> you want to know something?
<Pie_Crust> Go ahead.
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<theboos> Question: how come 16 bit computers can connect to 32 bit computers?
<sophiama1ter> my arduino has an 8 bit RISC cpu. right now, its current program works on 13 bit numbers.
<sophiama1ter> why? because my EEPROM is 13 bit.
<CiderCraft> BURN THE WITCH
<sophiama1ter> lol
<sophiama1ter> Then explain this:
<sophiama1ter> Pie_Crust:
<sophiama1ter> my 6502
<Pie_Crust> I have an arduino too. Arduino Uno. It works because the Arduino program is made to work for the Arduino.
<sophiama1ter> is 8 bit, and it can fetch addresses 16 bits in length
<sophiama1ter> how does that work?
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<sophiama1ter> :P
<Pie_Crust> By fetching half of the packet.
<theboos> F**king magnets
<sophiama1ter> yeah, it's called multiplexing.
<theboos> Pie_Crust, so why can't you fetch a quarter of the packet?
<sophiama1ter> technically heres one way you do it
<CiderCraft> theboos: no refunds once you've opened it
<Pie_Crust> Because it would take x4 the time to get it.
<sophiama1ter> you download the entire packet 1 byte at a time into a buffer
<sophiama1ter> THEN you parse it in any segment size you want.
<theboos> ^
<sophiama1ter> since the pckets only come in one bit at a time
<sophiama1ter> why does it matter.
<sophiama1ter> theres only two data pairs in an ethernet cable.
<Didz> <Pie_Crust> The packet size webpages are using is 32.
<Didz> LOL
<sophiama1ter> its basically a fast serial cable.
<theboos> google's so advanced you'd think they'd have moved on to 64 bit :P
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<sophiama1ter> s anyone logging this?
<sophiama1ter> I forgot to
<theboos> but then us 32-bit users wouldn't be able to use it, because after all, it would take 2x as log
<theboos> long*
<sophiama1ter> I want the log when we're done
<theboos> I have scrollback
<sophiama1ter> this goes on noobfarm.org
<Pie_Crust> Didz, they DO use 32 bits. If you have NVIDIA, open the panel, switch to 8bit colors, open google and see how ugly it looks.
<sophiama1ter> :D
* sophiama1ter cacles
<Didz> wtf.
<theboos> wtf
<theboos> that's video
* sophiama1ter cackles*
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<sophiama1ter> an 8 bit data bus just means the data bus can only recieve / transmit data 8 bits at a time
<sophiama1ter> did you know, if I wanted
<Pie_Crust> Didz, I dare you to switch to 8bit colors for one whole day and see how many applications and webpages will crash due to incompatibilities.
<Didz> they won't
<theboos> LOL
<sophiama1ter> I could hook my 6502 to an HDMI
* CiderCraft gives up and just buys a rubber hand and glues it to my face
<Didz> I...
<Didz> wat
<sophiama1ter> and get 720P
<Didz> the hell
<sophiama1ter> it would take fucking forever to draw the screen
<infina> sophiama1ter: how far back do you want? I have scrollback to when I joind.
<sophiama1ter> you could watch it peel for a long time
<sophiama1ter> well, actually it uses packets
<sophiama1ter> but yuou would be waiting
<sophiama1ter> but you could do it
<sophiama1ter> with as many colors as you want.
<Pie_Crust> Sophiamalter, you will actually crash. Doesn't work that way.
<sophiama1ter> much as it supports I guess*
<Pie_Crust> Set to 8bits and open MC for example
<sophiama1ter> why would i crash/
<Pie_Crust> It won't even run
<sophiama1ter> why not.
<Pie_Crust> I tried.
<Pie_Crust> Packet size is too small and too slow.
<Pie_Crust> Try it yourself.
<theboos> WTF does packet size have to do with minecraft rendering?
<Didz> I need some strong tea.
<sophiama1ter> my 6502 will not crash. Not unless I have a bug in it (Keep in mind I'm  also talking about a chip that is on my desk right now in an antistatic package)
<Pie_Crust> Instead of fighting, 1) Open NVIDIA Panel. 2) Set your colors to 8bits. 3) Open MC and look at the error report.
<CiderCraft> can't crash if it's not plugged in
<sophiama1ter> that's just lwjgl bitching
<theboos> I was going to screenshot it for you but NVIDIA won't even let me go to 8 bits :P
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<theboos> Regardless I think you are confused about what a packet it
<sophiama1ter> lwjgl bitches at everything
<theboos> is*
<sophiama1ter> dude
<Didz> network packet != "video" packet
<sophiama1ter> if I have two monitors and I shut the first one off
<Pie_Crust> Go to the resolution page, make a new one with your screen resolution and set the colors to 8bits.
<sophiama1ter> lwjgl bitches, its just how it is, it has nothing to do with this though.
<Pie_Crust> It will ask you if you wish to select that one and click Yes
<Pie_Crust> Then run MC
<theboos> piecrust for the sake of argument, let's assume lwjgl won't render with 8 bit video
<theboos> what does that prove?
<sophiama1ter> it's probably because the 8 bit video mode doesn't have fucking acceleration
<sophiama1ter> :P
<Pie_Crust> That prooves incompatibilities with 8bits and 32
* theboos facepalms
<sophiama1ter> it could but it probably doesnt if lwjgl is bitching
<Didz> I bent a sp
<theboos> I'm no network expert
<Pie_Crust> It's not that. It runs four times slower.
<Didz> I bent a spoon, this proves the world is flat.
<theboos> but I don't expect that it will be a problem
<sophiama1ter> let me get this out I guess
<Didz> the RedPower computer can very well read in "web pages in 32-bit", like Google, as you say is a 32-bit webpage
<sophiama1ter> three computers in series
<sophiama1ter> A-------b--------c
<Pie_Crust> It's fucking CAN'T
<sophiama1ter> are networked, b is routing
<sophiama1ter> b is an 8 bit router.
<sophiama1ter> C B, and A don't care about eachother.
<sophiama1ter> meaning
<sophiama1ter> it doesnt care how the packets are handled
<sophiama1ter> just as long as they get there
<CiderCraft> Pie just walk away
<sophiama1ter> so C doesn't care if A or B is whatever.
<sophiama1ter> bvecause b is going through packets like a monkey
<Didz> if the router is 8-bit, the PC connected to it can be 64-bit fine
<Pie_Crust> Fuck this. I have an 8bit Newton somewhere in my house. I'll try to connect it to the internet and open Google.
<theboos> Heh
<Pie_Crust> I'll be back tomorrow.