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%Koiro: o/
@Enki: Hello and welcome to the OU workshop
@tibbz: Hey folks!
@Enki: I'll be hosting this one with tibbz and Koiro
@Enki: I'll explain really quick how it works for the new users
@Enki: we rate the teams submitted by you
@Enki: all the raters together
@Enki: so if you didnt submit yet, feel free to do it now or duing the workshop
@tibbz: I mean we probably have enough already
@Enki: The first team was sent by Beauti Samira
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+Beauti Samira: n_n
@tibbz: (Anybody we don't get to can always submit after the workshop)
@Enki: http://www.hastebin.com/kozupirogu.md
@Enki: pretty solid teams
@Enki: what's the first core
+Beauti Samira: f/s/d
@Enki: you built around?
@tibbz: very solid and as common as it is i'm kind of glad to not see drag/mag
@Enki: ye same lol
+Beauti Samira: clef,skarm,chomp
@tibbz: and slat
@tibbz: *alt
@Enki: cool
@Enki: a thing that I dont really like is probably that garchomp
@Enki: the item tho
@Enki: also
+Beauti Samira: the fact that i really love scarf chomp
@Enki: you got many fairy weakness
@Enki: and your only resistor is skarmory
@tibbz: even if you were going to runs carf chomp i don't think that set is great
@Enki: which in this case is a defensive tank
@Enki: ye agreed
@tibbz: esp having dragon claw and outrage
@Enki: I'd suggest to go for Special Defensive Skarmory
@Enki: with leftovers over rocky helmet
@Enki: because of that huge fairy weakness
%Koiro: i think it makes sense to use the spikes steel + bulky stealth rocks ground type
%Koiro: as the defensive core
%Koiro: especially because clefable works fantastically as a status absorber and wincondition on those teams
+Beauti Samira: scarf chomp helps me check alot of threats
+Beauti Samira: scarf chomp ohko mega garde
+Beauti Samira: diancie
@tibbz: even if you're going to keep scarf chomp you need to change the set
@tibbz: imo
@Enki: well
+Beauti Samira: what should i change?
@Enki: yes the set must be changed
@tibbz: lose outrage
+Beauti Samira: hmm
+Beauti Samira: why outrage?
@tibbz: you could consider iron head given your fairy weakness
@tibbz: because being scarfed into outrage is a disaster waiting to happen
+Beauti Samira: ik but it gives me important ko
+Beauti Samira: like ko torn
+Beauti Samira: mega medi
+Beauti Samira: mega lop
+Beauti Samira: etc
%mil: I'd run a spD skarm set
%mil: for Mgardevour
@tibbz: welcome mil
%mil: hey
@Enki: but u got clefable
@Enki: for that stuff
@Enki: which with twave
@Enki: it annoys them
+Beauti Samira: medi breaks me
%Eutychios: also mega alt for these
@Enki: well
@Enki: you are going to revenge kill anyway
@Enki: with or without outrage on garchomp
+Beauti Samira: i have chopm for thing i cannot deal with my clef+skarm
+Beauti Samira: but losing outrage means that no reason to use scarf chomp
@Enki: we are here to suggest you ways to improve your team, we are not forcing you to change it
%Koiro: which is fine
%Koiro: dont use scarfchom[
%Koiro: its not a very good set
@tibbz: ^
@Enki: ye I agree
%Koiro: theres a plethora of more viable and effective scarfers
@Enki: there are better grounds
@Enki: like landorus-t
@Enki: which is a way better scarfer imo
%mil: yea scarf lando provides momenum too
@Enki: you are also losing a fairy weakness
+Beauti Samira: should i keep stone edge?
@tibbz: if you switch to lando? for sure
@Enki: + intimidate
+Beauti Samira: i mean in scaf chomp set should i keep stone edge?
%mil: a lot of pyshical walls switch into scarf lando so you can start dd ing on them with altaria
@Enki: yes
@Enki: you switch outrage to iron head
+Beauti Samira: ok
@Enki: mil tibbz do you guys have something else to add?
%mil: you can also run explosing on lando to kill problematic mons
@Enki: not risking edge misses or rolls in late game
@tibbz: no not really i mean honestly it's a real solid team with one weak link that unfortunately creates a fairy problem
@tibbz: i think finding ways to play around that or solve that problem makes it pretty solid
@tibbz: oh and again thank you for not having magnezone
+Beauti Samira: yeah lol
+Beauti Samira: i hate being generic
%Eutychios: i think he doesn't really need icy wind on keld in this team, maybe hp electric shoul be better for hit azu, volc better
@tibbz: yeah i agree with volc in the meta hp elec is significantly better
+Beauti Samira: hmm ok
@Enki: Beauti Samira
@Enki: do you have any question?
%mil: did we say use lefties on skarm
%mil: we did
+Beauti Samira: no enki
%mil: ok
@Enki: ye i told him that
@Enki: with sdef over pdef
@Enki: as you said either
@tibbz: yeah we did we said spdef with lefties
@Enki: I guess we are done with the firt tema
@Enki: thx for submitting ur team
@tibbz: cool
@Enki: and gl with it
@tibbz: ty beauti samira
+Beauti Samira: thnx
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@Enki: moving on we have
@Enki: sufyanp
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@Enki: Hi
+sufyanp: im here
@Enki: http://pastebin.com/x4XmAea9
+sufyanp: i tried to make a hyper offensive team
@tibbz: lopsided
%Koiro: bulky azelf seems like a better lead for this team, you can swap uturn for skillswap
@tibbz: would be my first impression
@tibbz: i mean it is HO tho
@Enki: ye agreed with the skillswap change
%Koiro: bulky azelf is a HO lead *-*
@Enki: since it helps you to get rocks
%Koiro: 128 hp 128 def
@Enki: against mega sableye
+sufyanp: the team has done surprisingly well.
%Koiro: lives lop's fakeout + return
%Koiro: and skillswap gets rocks vs mega diancie and sableye
%Koiro: this team rly appreciates rocks support, so i think it makes sense
+sufyanp: ok i will switch to skill swap
@Enki: a thing that i dont really like is probably that kyurem
@Enki: pretty passive
@Enki: you could try the orb set
@Enki: aoa or roost
%Koiro: tbh i think if you made it offensive, then ur offensive core is kyurem, mega alt, azu
+sufyanp: wait before we go to kyurem should the azelf be bulky? its speed is realy useful
%Koiro: which is screaming for magnezone support
%Koiro: sufyanp yeah bulky still runs max speed
@Enki: ye go for the spread koiro suggested
%Koiro: 128 hp 128 def 252 spe
+sufyanp: oh great will do that
%mil: yea skill swap is important
+sufyanp: ok so about the kyurem. It becomes a liabilty in battles. Any suggestions there?
%mil: if you run it make sure it lives
%mil: fake out + knock from sableye
@Enki: well the azelf ho is a pretty solid one, as Koiro said it needs the magnezone
@Enki: to support altria
@Enki: and azumarill
+sufyanp: and i should take kyurem out for that?
%Koiro: another route you could go
%Koiro: is jolly bd azu
%Koiro: to pave the way for an altaria sweep
%Koiro: by removing amoonguss and ferrothorn and weakening venusaur so altaria can win
%Koiro: theres a few ways this team can go tbh
%mil: you need to run azu with more speed even with band tho
%mil: to outspeed clef for example
+sufyanp: so do i max speed and get rid of hp or attack?
+sufyanp: for azu
%mil: if bd run max speed jolly
%Koiro: max attack is always the first thing on azumarill
%mil: if band you can invest 176 ada
%Koiro: never take evs out of attack
%mil: but bd is cool on ho
%mil: gets damage on venu
%Koiro: i generally think fast bd is cool on a team like this
+sufyanp: sorry im kinda new, what does bd refer to
@tibbz: hey for those of you who are going to stick around (i'll be in and out) we're going to try to have a tour so people can test the teams we've rated afterwards
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%mil: if you want to be cool you can run return
+sufyanp: oh makes sense
%mil: but thats generally worse
@tibbz: depending on how many people are left, etc
%Koiro: i still think knock is better for ferro
+sufyanp: what item would i use with bd azu?
%mil: salac mana can work too late game, cause its hard to kill in one hit
%Koiro: sitrus berry
@Enki: ye you can try both them ut
@Enki: and decide by yourself
@Enki: I'd go for energy ball
%mil: but kyurem needs life orb with ice beam/earth power/fusion bolt and roost
@Enki: sball is good if u are using only the stab
+sufyanp: so the ev spread for bd azu is....
@Enki: usually sball or dgleam are nice
@Enki: for coverage
%Koiro: well for this team i think 4 hp 252 atk 252 spe
%Koiro: with a jolly nature
%Koiro: supports the other team members, especially altaria, best
+sufyanp: so should i include magnezone and who should i take out for it?
%Koiro: well the option was to run bd azu or to run magnezone in another slot
%Koiro: if you're going with bd azu, then you dont need magnezone
+sufyanp: oh. then ill keep bd azu
@Enki: agreed
@Enki: life orb on kyurem as mil suggested
@Enki: and if in late game you lack of speed go for salac
@tibbz: Yeh anf name it "not scarfed" for funsies
@tibbz: Jk
+sufyanp: lo
+sufyanp: l
+sufyanp: are the alakazam and manaphy ok?
@Enki: focus blast over energy ball
@Enki: you can try sub salac manaphy with scald and sball / dglea or keep that with eball over sball
@Enki: because of rotom-w
@tibbz: Meh
+sufyanp: yeah rotom w has hurt this team.
%Koiro: fast bd azu lures rotom too [:
+sufyanp: also anything with iron head has murdered me
+sufyanp: ive caught way too many flinches
@Enki: ye fine
@Enki: do you guys have anything else to add?
@Enki: sufyanp any question?
+sufyanp: thank you so much for the help
+sufyanp: you guys answered everything
@Enki: all right, thx for submitting and gl with the team
+sufyanp: thanks
@Enki: let us know how the team goes
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@Enki: Hi
+doubleswitches: hi
@Enki: http://pastebin.com/6x3RLFS1
@Enki: this is the team
%Koiro: ok firstly, whats the offensive core
%Koiro: what did u build aroud
+doubleswitches: infernape and pidgeot
%Koiro: i would say ur only real viable pidgeot sets are 4 attacks w/ hyper beam and monoattacking stallbreaker
%Koiro: both are p average at best
@Enki: ye the most used are sub roost workout hurricane monostab
@Enki: or uturn hp ground
@Enki: with heatwave and hurricane
+doubleswitches: hp ground sounds nice
@Enki: not a huge fan of hyper beam
@Enki: it lures heatran pretty well
@Enki: you should give infernape
@Enki: the life orb
%Koiro: also, id just run focus blast and max spatk on np ape if ur gonna run it
+doubleswitches: yeah, i wasn't sure what to use because it solo's abr stall w/o an item
%Koiro: that mixed attacker set is a uu think afaik, np ape isnt rly super great in ou, but u might as well commit to np
%Koiro: if u want a mon to 6-0 abr stall u should use smth like togekiss oo
+doubleswitches: wait, but the only thing you want to hit with fighting stab is chansey or speciall walls, so why focus blst?
@Enki: both are fine
@Enki: you got many ways to deal with the stall
%Koiro: stuff like tankchomp
%Koiro: is a good example
+doubleswitches: oh
%Koiro: of something u dont wanna hit with ur other moves, or cc
%Koiro: an ou mon, that the uu set doesnt prep for
@Enki: anyway chansey cant do much to you
@Enki: and usually
@Enki: chansey is a set up fodder
@Enki: plus none stays in with a chansey against an infernape
@Enki: fearing some band CC or w/e
+doubleswitches: fair enough
@Enki: you could also try to replace something with excadrill
@Enki: abusing that sand
@Enki: heatran over ttar is an option if you are not going to abuse sand
@Enki: because of scizor
@Enki: chople max speed with rocks
@Enki: helpst against steel types and also take fairies
+doubleswitches: yeah, clef is a big issue so that works
%mil: exca > nape enki ?
@Enki: do you have any other question, the team is pretty solid tho
@Enki: or tran > ttara
%mil: oe last suggestion I have is
@Enki: up to him
%mil: work up pigey
+doubleswitches: what moves for the tra
+doubleswitches: n
%mil: and coupled with sand
+doubleswitches: 3 attacks?
%mil: work up pidgey beats stall
%mil: and exca beats offense
%mil: together with thundi
@Enki: ^
@Enki: agreed
+doubleswitches: oh, that's true
@Enki: refresh roost
@Enki: w/e
@Enki: do you have any question??
%mil: either the bulky set with aa lot of hp or
%mil: the offensive one, test it out (:
+doubleswitches: ok thanks, that's it
@Enki: thx for submimtting ur team and gl man
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Enki: next i ArcanePhoenix
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@Enki: Hi
+ArcanePhoenix: evening
@tibbz: Afternoon
@Enki: http://hastebin.com/sukehawenu.md
@Enki: the team
@tibbz: Ahhh, sand
%Koiro: is it just me that thinks u could switch the rocker and scarfer
%Koiro: chople rocks tar and scarf land
%Koiro: seems a bit nicer
%mil: uh just run max speed exca
%Koiro: seeming rotom alr checks sand fine, and the momentum into zard + the ability to check stuff like zam and general fast mons seems nicer
@Enki: well, he already got enough speed, but chople ttar takes meteors better
@Enki: which is the main reason of zard y + pursuit
@Enki: and agreed with mil, max speed excadrill
@Enki: adamant with baloon or jolly life orb
%Koiro: also, spdef rotom is bad, that should be changed to physdef
@Enki: or jolly balloon with sd
@Enki: ye rotom is a pretty nice bird check
@Enki: it needs max hp max def
%Koiro: u could even run faster variants for bisharp and breloom
%mil: what about amoong or tang > lando
@Enki: helmet tang ye
%Koiro: honestly why not the grass over lati
%mil: well then zard X
%mil: gets problematic
%Koiro: lati is supposedly ur water/elec resist
@Enki: it helps against bisharp
%Koiro: makes more sense to change the grass for that
%mil: yea tang > lati works
%Koiro: + lati isnt needed here imo
@Enki: works too ye
+ArcanePhoenix: my defogger out when i have zard?
+ArcanePhoenix: exca to spin then i guess
%Koiro: yeah u should be spindrill
+ArcanePhoenix: hm
%mil: is there a tang spread that takes on keld and bish ?
%mil: that+rotom should be enough for keld
%Koiro: not that i know of, but tbh pivoting should be fine, its not like the team lacks ways to beat it
+ArcanePhoenix: tangrowth split?
%Koiro: i think running fast rotom is a good idea on this
%Koiro: to check bish, and even breloom i guess too
@Enki: with helmet tang ye
@Enki: should be fine
%mil: oh
%mil: use def rotom
%Koiro: yeah
@Enki: do you guys have anything else to add? a little hurry cuz we got many teams
%Koiro: id run 248 hp 40 def 220 spe
@Enki: also ArcanePhoenix do you have any qestion?
+ArcanePhoenix: hm
%Koiro: fast rotom is so good oo
@Enki: that rotom spread takes birds
%mil: you can message us again after testing
@Enki: and outspeed sharp
@Enki: we'll be hosting a tour after the workshop
@Enki: you can test your team out there
+ArcanePhoenix: ill fix my team now
+ArcanePhoenix: if something comes up ill whisp
+ArcanePhoenix: ty guys
@Enki: thx for submitting and gl with the team
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@Enki: Hi
+Cethri: hi
@Enki: http://pastebin.com/QABk7Rkf
%Koiro: keld is ur only realistic dark resist and i think resttalk seems smart here
%Koiro: being able to reliably check weavile is a huge help to this team
+Cethri: okay.
@Enki: smart because u get smh a recovery
%mil: use jirachi with iron head to hit fairies
%Koiro: plus, mega lati + resttalk keld is a super solid core defensively, and even vs balance
@Enki: which helps the team
+Cethri: I like specs just because it deals with things like clef and mega sab
%Koiro: u can run a bit of hp investment too
+Cethri: I'll try rest talk
%Koiro: 56 hp 200 spatk 252 spe
%Koiro: that hits a leftovers number
+Cethri: ok
@Enki: body slam over heat stamp
@Enki: it supports ttar
@Enki: because it lacks of speed
+Cethri: true
@Enki: + you are a pretty slow rachi
+Cethri: I used to have twave over calm mind on lati
%Koiro: id run ice punch over supe on ttar
%mil: and ttar with 200 or more ev into speed, to outspeed mvenu
+Cethri: ok
+Cethri: jolly ttar?
%Koiro: nah ada on band is fine
+Cethri: but 200 speed?
%mil: so it hits 208
+Cethri: okay
%mil: but you can look into the
+Cethri: what does that outspeed along with venu
%mil: speed tiers thread
%Koiro: although, i think this build might appreciate heatran a bit more than rachi
+Cethri: okay ill do that
+Cethri: 56 hp 252 att 200 speed?
+Cethri: and also I was thinking about replacing calm mind on lati since I never get the chance to set up
%mil: yea that's one set you can run, it's zup to you
%mil: max speed can outspeed rotom if you want to
+Cethri: how much does banded crunch do to defensive rotom?
+Cethri: or banded edge
+Cethri: let me calc
%mil: def 2hko
+Cethri: oh okay nice
+Cethri: ill do max speed I think
%mil: 252+ Atk Choice Band Tyranitar Crunch vs. 248 HP / 252+ Def Rotom-W: 151-178 (49.8 - 58.7%) -- 99.6% chance to 2HKO after sandstorm damage
+Cethri: does adamant max speed outspeed rotom
%mil: usually yes
+Cethri: ok
%mil: but some run more speed
+Cethri: and so on jirachi should I run fire punch, heart stamp, body slam or iron head
+Cethri: could also get rid of healing wish I dont use it too often
%Koiro: i think tran over rachi makes sense
+Cethri: I just like the momentum it provides
@Enki: you could also try
+Cethri: I can try tran
@Enki: wish protect
%mil: heatran helps better vs talon
@Enki: uturn iron head
+Cethri: need rocks though enki
%mil: but jira has momentum and wish protect
%mil: up2 you
@Enki: ye imo you should give a shit to tran
@Enki: rite
@Enki: mb
+Cethri: il ltry tran
+Cethri: what set?
@Enki: rocks taunt toxic / epower and magma or lava
%Koiro: fast utility makes the most sense
@Enki: depends if you go max spatk or max hp
+Cethri: max speed max hp?
@Enki: ye indeed
+Cethri: ill do max hp
%Koiro: yeah max spe max hp is best for this build i think
%Koiro: if u dont run epower
%Koiro: u can drop a little from speed
+Cethri: toxic taunt rocks lava plume
@Enki: ye
+Cethri: okay
+Cethri: what speed?
%Koiro: to just outpace fast sciz and hera
+Cethri: and should I run 252 speed or 248
%Koiro: 240 spe
%Koiro: is fine
%Koiro: w/ timid nature
+Cethri: I meant hp sorry
%Koiro: run 248 hp
@Enki: odd hp
@Enki: always
@Enki: u take less rock damage
+Cethri: is that for leftovers?
+Cethri: oh okay
@Enki: so you guys have anything else to add? or Cethri do you have a question?
%Koiro: 248 also happens to hit a leftovers number, but no its for stealth rock switchins
+Cethri: let me make sure i have everything right
@Enki: rite
+Cethri: so I just changed ttar to max speed adamant and rachi to tran?
+Cethri: no change to lati moveset?
%Koiro: keld to resttalk
%Koiro: and run at least 44 spe on rotom
+Cethri: oh yeah I forgot thanks
%Koiro: for azu *-*
%mil: there is cm refresh
+Cethri: 44 speed rotom? okay
+Cethri: so 56 hp on keld right
+Cethri: just making sure
%Koiro: y
+Cethri: I think that's it, thanks so much for the help guyxs
+Cethri: guys*
@Enki: thx for submittin
%mil: 60 ev in speed outspeed
@Enki: and gl witht he team
%mil: band max speet ttar lol
%mil: on rotom
+Cethri: ok
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%mil: cause that's a threat to Mlati
@Enki: Hi
+Bollywood Bro: ayy
+Bollywood Bro: Hi
@Enki: http://pastebin.com/1ZWtb7ak
+Bollywood Bro: that's mince
+Bollywood Bro: *mine
@Enki: first of all
%Koiro: oh man, i dont like av raikou in general, and i dont think double elec is good for this team
@Enki: try rain dance over energy ball that you can change lum berry to leftovers
%Koiro: u should also try find something to add to your offensive core that appreciates metagross' pursuit support
@Enki: also I'd try lati over zapdos
@Enki: mvenusaur is a huge threat to the team
%Koiro: rightnow u just have a manaphy thats taking advantage of it, but if you're going to use pursuit, you need to take advantage of it
@Enki: and if you are not boosted manaphy is not doing damage
%Koiro: tbh hp fly thundurus seems better than either of the electrics u currently have
%Koiro: appreciates meta's pursuit support for latis
+Bollywood Bro: if I use it over raikou, don't I stack weaknesses?
@Enki: he could keep raikou imo
@Enki: and go for latios over zapdos
@Enki: adding thundurus
@Enki: it makes the team weakner to weavile
+Bollywood Bro: I literally only added AV azu to check weavile
@Enki: you can swap manaphy with keldeo and latios over zapdos
@Enki: specs keldeo is a huge wallbreaker
@Enki: which helps your team
+Bollywood Bro: that sounds great
+Bollywood Bro: also takes advantage of pursuit metagross
%Koiro: if he has keld
%Koiro: hes fine vs weav
@Enki: ^
%Koiro: and hp fly thund also paves for keld
%Koiro: weakens grasses
+Bollywood Bro: thundy over azu?
%Koiro: id say over raikou
+Bollywood Bro: then this team is really weak to stuff like m-mane
@Enki: ye that wroks too
+Bollywood Bro: isn't it?
@Enki: latias takes it pretty well
@Enki: with recover and defog
@Enki: it supports a lot the team
%Koiro: also raikou is not a very solid mmane switchin anyway oo
+Bollywood Bro: I'll try using thund over azu, and if that doesn't go too well, I'll use it over raikou
@Enki: cool
@Enki: sounds good
@Enki: do you have any question?
%Koiro: honestly, yache chomp/lando over tankchomp is a good idea to test too
%Koiro: since it checks electrics nicely, and keeps the offensive identity of the team
%Koiro: just something to try
+Bollywood Bro: I'll try all of 'em
+Bollywood Bro: not really, it's prettt self-explanatory
+Bollywood Bro: thanks
@Enki: cool
@Enki: thx for submitting your team
@Enki: and gl with testing it out
+Bollywood Bro: thanks for rating it
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@Enki: Hi
+Juhheli: hi
@Enki: http://pastebin.com/hF7GQPhQ
@Enki: the team
+Juhheli: yep
@Enki: first of all remove sub on mmedi
@Enki: you got many other better options
+Juhheli: icepunch?
%mil: ice punch + tpunch
@Enki: ^
%mil: fake out and HJK
@Enki: over zen heaedbut
+Juhheli: ok
%mil: grass types are handled well by jirachi
%mil: and poiso
%mil: n
%Koiro: also, dont use life orb pursuit bisharp oo
%Koiro: lum berry + sd works best on this team
%mil: yea sd on the willOs
+Juhheli: so bisharp lumm berry and swords dance?
%mil: you have no rocks ;-;
%Koiro: also eats scalds from stuff like bro
%Koiro: which can pave for slowbro
%Koiro: yache lando w/ rocks and scarf rachi
%Koiro: seems rly smart for this build
%mil: I'd keep scarf
%Koiro: i was gonna mention it
%mil: medicham breaks, lando cleans
@Enki: it also helps against msableye
%Koiro: but scarfrachi can clean oo
%mil: heatran>raho
%mil: for sableyse imo
%Koiro: + yache lando makes his team way better vs elecs, of which its currently p average
%mil: heatrann>rachi
+Juhheli: so heatran over jirachi?
%mil: if you wnat to keep lando scarf then yes
+Juhheli: what about fairies?
@Enki: they are handled pretty well by heatran
@Enki: you could chople it
@Enki: giving you big ways to deal with gardevoir
+Juhheli: what should i make the heatran
@Enki: with heatran in, the keldeo weakness increases
@Enki: so you might have to go for roost over hp fire on latios
%mil: or bullet punch medi for fairies
%mil: heatran: rocks, lava, taunt
+Juhheli: lavaplume
+Juhheli: and what else
%mil: and maybe willO for bisharp
%mil: or toxic
+Juhheli: over what?
%mil: rocks /lava plume /taunt
%mil: and then you have to pick a last move
+Juhheli: ok
%mil: I mean willo on heatran n_n
%mil: or toxic as last move
+Juhheli: ok
@Enki: Juhheli
+Juhheli: yes
@Enki: do you have any other questsion?
+Juhheli: let me confirm
@Enki: Ok
+Juhheli: mega medi: hjk, tp, ip, and fake out
+Juhheli: nothing on lando
%mil: stone egde on lando over rock slide
+Juhheli: aah
%mil: for got to mention
%mil: if bulk up talon has +1 and such
%mil: and to hit rotom ahrder
%mil: and opposng lando
+Juhheli: yes
+Juhheli: rotom?
%mil: yea they switch in rotom very often
+Juhheli: my rotom w
%mil: it's fine
+Juhheli: ok
+Juhheli: latios
@Enki: recover over hp fire if adding heatran
%mil: just put roost there
@Enki: and that's it
+Juhheli: over hp fire?
%mil: don't forget lum sd bish
%mil: adn tran is max hp max speed timid; rocks/lava/taunt/toxic or willO
+Juhheli: bish is lum and sd
%mil: yes oveer hp fire
@Enki: ye
@Enki: any other question?
%mil: if you don't feel you don't need defog you can think of a lure move on lati
%mil: *if you feel like you don't need defog
+Juhheli: but spikes
+Juhheli: i mean stelth rock
%mil: yea, up to you
@Enki: ye keep defog
+Juhheli: what shold be my tactic?
%mil: give MMedi as many switchins as possible and destry teams
%mil: then sweep with lando
+Juhheli: ok
@Enki: thx for submitting the team
+Juhheli: thats all folks
@Enki: and gl with testing it out
(Juhheli was demoted to Room regular user by Enki.)
@Enki: We are going to do one more rate, sorry for who is missing, but we recived almost 20 teams, tryout next time
@Enki: and the last guy is Ca$h player
Ca$h player was promoted to Room Voice by Enki.
+Ca$h player: hiya
@Enki: http://pastebin.com/MYyy4FFh
@Enki: Hi
%Koiro: if ur running pokeaimmd the jolly sd megachomp
%Koiro: run firefang over fire blast
+Ca$h player: okl
%mil: or Stone Edge > fire blast
%mil: and then
%mil: make it a sand team imo with exca > thundi
%Koiro: honestly sd chomp doesnt need dragon stab
%Koiro: u could run edge over dclaw
%Koiro: sd megachomp*
+Ca$h player: will do
%mil: it's cool to hit rotom if he goes the sand route
%Koiro: oh also this team is rly slow
%Koiro: and i think exca adds to ur sand core
%Koiro: and makes sense
%Koiro: so yeah mils change is god
%mil: god
+Ca$h player: alright
%mil: then lati>starmie
%mil: no wait
+Ca$h player: keep starmie?
%mil: if exca runs rapid spin you don't need it
%Koiro: you dont need starmie with drill, starmies main niche is a spinner, and on sand u probably want a more adept water resist than starmie if you can afford to
%Koiro: and in this case u can
+Ca$h player: so spin exca and lati
+Ca$h player: what should I run on lati?
%mil: draco tbolt roost psyshock
%mil: tbolt hits skarm which is a sand check
+Ca$h player: cool
%Eutychios: also hit azu , another sand check ^
@Enki: hm
@Enki: anything else to add?
%Koiro: I'm notFaLsE
@Enki: -
@Enki: Ca$h player
@Enki: any question?
+Ca$h player: nah i'm good
+Ca$h player: thanks for the help [:
@Enki: thx for submitting
@Enki: and gl with the team
(Ca$h player was demoted to Room regular user by Enki.)
@Enki: This is all for today guys, big thanks to Koiro and mil for beeing here. We are going to host the tour soon to let you testout the teams
@Enki: see you in a next workshop
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