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  1. [2011-11-04 22:06:49] -->| YOU (Ironybot) have joined #golemquest
  2. [2011-11-04 22:06:49] =-= Topic for #golemquest is ``Current thread: http://goo.gl/coZQj | Disc Thread: http://goo.gl/p0wsG | Wiki: http://goo.gl/LB2hZ | Guns: http://goo.gl/LEhh5 | Guns Disc: http://goo.gl/7Tq3r | Dreamer: http://goo.gl/PeLnk || http://goo.gl/U3JE3''
  3. [2011-11-04 22:06:49] =-= Topic for #golemquest was set by ChicagoTed on Sunday, August 14, 2011 3:05:00 AM
  4. [2011-11-04 22:06:49] <Arkeus> Bob will LOVE it
  5. [2011-11-04 22:06:53] <Arkeus> hey Ironybot
  6. [2011-11-04 22:06:56] <Ironybot> Good evening.
  7. [2011-11-04 22:06:57] <Arkeus> see post in disc
  8. [2011-11-04 22:07:02] <Arkeus> we have plans for adelat
  9. [2011-11-04 22:07:02] <mib_wv8jnx> Stream of people coming in now
  10. [2011-11-04 22:07:14] =-= mib_wv8jnx is now known as Grail
  11. [2011-11-04 22:07:21] <Gunpowder_Symphony> Ehh, I woulda been on earlier except for scanning the living shit out of my machine.
  12. [2011-11-04 22:07:44] <Gunpowder_Symphony> Some fucktard in Japan hacked into my email account so a system purge was in order.
  13. [2011-11-04 22:08:12] <Arkeus> :-(
  14. [2011-11-04 22:08:37] <Gunpowder_Symphony> Ehh, at least I got to spend the day blowing people (and myself) up in BF3 on the ol' PS3.
  15. [2011-11-04 22:09:06] <Ironybot> While it is an entertaining idea to mass-produce Armas glamours and use their existence to alibi away anything that we wish, somehow it strikes me as something destined to escape out control and subsequently blow up in our face.
  16. [2011-11-04 22:09:21] <Gunpowder_Symphony> I have far too much fondness for attaching C-4 to a jeep and making a jihad-wagon.
  17. [2011-11-04 22:09:37] <Arkeus> Ironybot: that's why we don't MASS-produce
  18. [2011-11-04 22:09:44] <Arkeus> we know how many are produced
  19. [2011-11-04 22:09:46] <Grail> I wonder what the supernatural version of cock fighting is.
  20. [2011-11-04 22:09:49] <Arkeus> and we control all the ones out there
  21. [2011-11-04 22:09:59] <Arkeus> (Basically, we use them with Russians)
  22. [2011-11-04 22:10:11] <Arkeus> Grail: there are Arenas under the sewers
  23. [2011-11-04 22:10:13] <Guile> -insert supernatural monster here-fighting
  24. [2011-11-04 22:10:16] <Arkeus> each societies have one
  25. [2011-11-04 22:10:22] <Arkeus> Hobgoblins, goblins, etc
  26. [2011-11-04 22:10:40] <Gunpowder_Symphony> Fuck paracritters. I want to see velociraptor deathmatches.
  27. [2011-11-04 22:12:05] <Ironybot> Given that we only pass the charms out to our minions, using them for alibis is... feasible. Glamours are not inexpensive, though, so we'll need a significantly better cashflow or far more heat on us before this becomes a reasonable expenditure.
  28. [2011-11-04 22:12:55] <Ironybot> Heat on us from strictly mundane sources, that is; I doubt any supernatural player capable of putting enough pressure on us to make us worry would be fooled by a glamour that's within our price range for this operation.
  29. [2011-11-04 22:13:00] <Guile> if we learn how to produce them ourself, potentially taking on any face we want...
  30. [2011-11-04 22:13:31] <Guile> opens the door to some absurd abuses of mundane authority. depending on how ruthless we are about it.
  31. [2011-11-04 22:13:43] <Ironybot> There is a reason that shape-shifters are feared.
  32. [2011-11-04 22:13:50] <A_Mad_Oyster> ?discthread
  33. [2011-11-04 22:13:51] <Classhole> http://tgchan.org/kusaba/questdis/res/347115+50.html
  34. [2011-11-04 22:14:03] <Grail> We'll need a disposal and moderately potent charm of us for the Doonongaes plan currently proposed.
  35. [2011-11-04 22:14:04] <Gunpowder_Symphony> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0CQokgv0dQw
  36. [2011-11-04 22:14:04] <Classhole> Gunpowder_Symphony: Greenskeeper - Lotion - length 3m 57s - rated 4.97/5.0 (116) - 44384 views - DustinBones69 on 2007.04.27
  37. [2011-11-04 22:14:41] <Grail> And on the shapeshifting front I really wonder what a mimic octopus spirit animal would let us do.
  38. [2011-11-04 22:14:42] <A_Mad_Oyster> Charms? No problem!
  39. [2011-11-04 22:14:44] * A_Mad_Oyster points at BB
  40. [2011-11-04 22:16:08] <Guile> So yeah, I'd like to sound out the goblins on how long it would take to get that. Passive charm with that focus at 6-to-1. We have, what, 40+ hours stocked? That might be enough
  41. [2011-11-04 22:17:06] <Arkeus> Ironybot: there is a difference between shapeshifting and making a charm to look like *yourself*
  42. [2011-11-04 22:17:13] <Arkeus> One is instant, and easy
  43. [2011-11-04 22:17:18] <Arkeus> the other is very, very limited
  44. [2011-11-04 22:17:38] <A_Mad_Oyster> We should learn Magic Animal butchering for COOKING and Tracking
  45. [2011-11-04 22:17:42] <Ironybot> I am aware of the distinction. I was responding to the observation that the glamour plan would allow for absurd abuses of mundane authority.
  46. [2011-11-04 22:17:45] <Arkeus> Well, in the 'passive charm crafting' category, this seems like a good first project
  47. [2011-11-04 22:17:57] <A_Mad_Oyster> Yeah, charm crafting is good too
  48. [2011-11-04 22:18:08] <Arkeus> Ironybot: i am pretty sure that mundane authority has its contacts, too
  49. [2011-11-04 22:18:19] <Arkeus> As long as we only do it a short while, they won't come out, though
  50. [2011-11-04 22:18:21] <Guile> There's so many different animal types out there, that would take a lot of hours
  51. [2011-11-04 22:19:00] <Guile> Armas's new theme music? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Bn5tiuZU4JI
  52. [2011-11-04 22:19:00] <Classhole> Guile: Nina Simone - Sinnerman full lenght - length 10m 14s - rated 4.97/5.0 (11157) - 3239132 views - cjlustig on 2008.09.03
  53. [2011-11-04 22:19:30] <Ironybot> I suspect that mundane authority in this setting largely exists only at low levels, and that beyond a certain point of authority virtually everything has extensive magical resources.
  54. [2011-11-04 22:19:40] <Guile> oh, probably
  55. [2011-11-04 22:20:08] <Guile> if the US has ORB and the Russians have Chugainov, all the big governments probably do
  56. [2011-11-04 22:20:42] <Ironybot> Essentially, if anything is kicked far enough up the chain we can expect someone with serious magical guns to come after us, no matter what the organization- governments, criminals, large corporations, whatever.
  57. [2011-11-04 22:21:49] <Ironybot> My proof of this would be that if there is such an organization without significant magical powers at its disposal, it would be easy prey for someone with the right set of magical abilities to stage a takeover of, so everyone therefore either has magical prowess or is too small to bother seizing control of.
  58. [2011-11-04 22:22:34] <Guile> well, there could be other reasons. Public censure, so it would have to be hidden... they would have to lack powerful allies...
  59. [2011-11-04 22:22:40] <Guile> but it's probably happened before
  60. [2011-11-04 22:23:04] |<-- A_Mad_Oyster has left irc.rizon.net (Quit: http://www.mibbit.com ajax IRC Client)
  61. [2011-11-04 22:23:18] <Gunpowder_Symphony> CANCER BREAK
  62. [2011-11-04 22:23:57] <Arkeus> Ok, we had some GREAT ideas at the beginning
  63. [2011-11-04 22:24:03] <Arkeus> though we weren't "travelling"
  64. [2011-11-04 22:24:07] <Arkeus> so it's different
  65. [2011-11-04 22:24:14] <Arkeus> and definitely NEED to cook more, dammit
  66. [2011-11-04 22:24:21] <Arkeus> Also, i want more deals on meats
  67. [2011-11-04 22:24:25] <Arkeus> much, much, much more
  68. [2011-11-04 22:24:28] -->| A_Mad_Oyster (cgiirc@2730B398.A9FE2025.C318AC60.IP) has joined #golemquest
  69. [2011-11-04 22:25:02] <Guile> Meat's good, but I'd still like to push the 'allow my minions access to paths through the sewers' as a Goblin Friend's friend sort of deal
  70. [2011-11-04 22:25:12] <Guile> and a working mental map of the upper sewers would be invaluable
  71. [2011-11-04 22:25:19] <Arkeus> not that
  72. [2011-11-04 22:25:22] <Guile> ah, l4d2 calls - and I must answer
  73. [2011-11-04 22:25:23] <Arkeus> not the second one
  74. [2011-11-04 22:25:28] <Arkeus> Second one is for Recaps
  75. [2011-11-04 22:25:31] <Arkeus> Red Caps
  76. [2011-11-04 22:25:47] <Guile> we talk with both; they're in different sections of the sewers
  77. [2011-11-04 22:25:54] <Guile> get a COMPLETE map, holy shit
  78. [2011-11-04 22:25:56] <Arkeus> Red Caps steal goblins
  79. [2011-11-04 22:25:57] <Guile> we would be so valuable
  80. [2011-11-04 22:26:04] <Arkeus> so they know a bit of both
  81. [2011-11-04 22:26:09] <Arkeus> and info from SM COST
  82. [2011-11-04 22:26:10] <Guile> overlapping's fine
  83. [2011-11-04 22:26:19] <Arkeus> so it should be done after the other stuff we need
  84. [2011-11-04 22:30:46] <Gunpowder_Symphony> ...Heh. Recaps. Paracritters that follow people around and continually tell them what they've done during the past day.
  85. [2011-11-04 22:33:06] <Arkeus> lol
  86. [2011-11-04 22:33:09] <Arkeus> and, damn
  87. [2011-11-04 22:33:12] <Arkeus> Bob not here
  88. [2011-11-04 22:33:17] <Arkeus> possibly he comes from update
  89. [2011-11-04 22:33:20] <Arkeus> AHAAHAH YOU DEAD
  90. [2011-11-04 22:33:30] <Arkeus> or possible he comes for update 'did i scare you?'
  91. [2011-11-04 22:33:36] <Arkeus> or maybe no update, to make us STEW
  92. [2011-11-04 22:33:37] <Arkeus> :-(
  93. [2011-11-04 22:33:40] <Arkeus> *scared*
  94. [2011-11-04 22:33:43] <Gunpowder_Symphony> THEY'RE COMING TO GET YOU, BARBARA
  95. [2011-11-04 22:35:50] <Arkeus> >[Camella]"I have to ask, after what that guy said... could he have hurt you with that?"
  96. [2011-11-04 22:35:50] <Arkeus> "I am still human, after all. Digging out bullets hurts. A lot."
  97. [2011-11-04 22:35:50] <Arkeus> >[Camella]"Oh, don't be such a bambino."
  98. [2011-11-04 22:35:55] <Arkeus> It would have killed us lol
  99. [2011-11-04 22:36:52] <BUTTZ> Man she's going to both freak and be utterly pissed off and jealous the first time she witnesses Armas losing a limb
  100. [2011-11-04 22:37:15] <Arkeus> :-)
  101. [2011-11-04 22:37:45] <Ironybot> He might have missed our head.
  102. [2011-11-04 22:38:41] <BUTTZ> There are blood-based charms aren't there, in addition to the goblin-type charms and the paper charms?
  103. [2011-11-04 22:38:41] <Gunpowder_Symphony> Maybe showing Camella that regenerative trick would be a bad idea. Might get too pissed off one day and go all Lorena Bobbitt style batshit.
  104. [2011-11-04 22:38:44] <Ironybot> And our heart. Hrm. It's not entirely clear whether those remain critical weak points of our healing powers, given their much, much greater level these days.
  105. [2011-11-04 22:39:05] <Ironybot> If we still can't heal our brain and heart, we need to look into improving our regeneration again.
  106. [2011-11-04 22:39:14] <BUTTZ> Gun if we're around Camella in combat enough she's going to find out no matter what
  107. [2011-11-04 22:39:42] <BUTTZ> It's just one of those inevitabilities given Armas' haphazard method of "dealing" with challenges
  108. [2011-11-04 22:40:10] <Shifter55> Hmm... if we got a second heart we'ld probably be able to heal them by taking on offline to be regenerated.
  109. [2011-11-04 22:40:35] <Gunpowder_Symphony> SCIENCE
  110. [2011-11-04 22:40:54] <Arkeus> <BUTTZ> There are blood-based charms aren't there, in addition to the goblin-type charms and the paper charms? <= paper and goblin charm are based on soul i think
  111. [2011-11-04 22:41:02] <Arkeus> though goblin could also have some blood
  112. [2011-11-04 22:41:14] <BUTTZ> My point is
  113. [2011-11-04 22:41:30] <BUTTZ> we have a blood master who would very much enjoy giving us a bad name under our control anyway
  114. [2011-11-04 22:41:40] <Arkeus> heh
  115. [2011-11-04 22:41:51] <Arkeus> Shifter55: do we need that?
  116. [2011-11-04 22:41:57] <Arkeus> we'll be able to die soon anyway
  117. [2011-11-04 22:42:07] <BUTTZ> We could even tie it up neatly with "Smets ordered one of his thralls to do it"
  118. [2011-11-04 22:42:15] <Arkeus> nop
  119. [2011-11-04 22:42:18] <Arkeus> not 'ordered'
  120. [2011-11-04 22:42:24] <Arkeus> One of Smet's thrall did it
  121. [2011-11-04 22:42:25] <BUTTZ> You know what I mean
  122. [2011-11-04 22:42:40] <BUTTZ> "One of Smets' thralls was ordered to do it"
  123. [2011-11-04 22:42:46] <Arkeus> Yeah, but let's not lie
  124. [2011-11-04 22:42:47] <Arkeus> :D
  125. [2011-11-04 22:42:48] <Arkeus> indeed
  126. [2011-11-04 22:43:26] <Shifter55> Nope, just something to keep in mind if you want to become reasonably redundant to organ damage.
  127. [2011-11-04 22:43:34] <Arkeus> we already are
  128. [2011-11-04 22:43:55] <BUTTZ> Anyway we're going to end up getting Adelat either summarily dismissed from her department for bringing in weird shit, or promoted to the big leagues since she's been contaminated anyway
  129. [2011-11-04 22:44:05] <BUTTZ> In the former case we recruit her ourselves
  130. [2011-11-04 22:44:14] <BUTTZ> In the latter, we maintain her as a contact
  131. [2011-11-04 22:44:24] <Shifter55> We aren't, that's not redundancy, that's a one-up.
  132. [2011-11-04 22:44:36] <Arkeus> "So-what's your color? Or.... really, anything about what kind of dress you want would be nic-"
  133. [2011-11-04 22:44:36] <Arkeus> She offers forth her hand.
  134. [2011-11-04 22:44:36] <Arkeus> >[Camella]"Give me your keys."
  135. [2011-11-04 22:44:36] <Arkeus> "...It's the Right Laine, pretty sure only Laine's can drive it."
  136. [2011-11-04 22:44:37] <Arkeus> NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
  137. [2011-11-04 22:44:43] <Arkeus> Y_Y
  138. [2011-11-04 22:45:01] <Arkeus> Shifter55: one up?
  139. [2011-11-04 22:45:03] <Arkeus> what?
  140. [2011-11-04 22:45:05] <Arkeus> explain
  141. [2011-11-04 22:45:27] <Shifter55> Like green mushrooms.
  142. [2011-11-04 22:45:32] <Arkeus> Explain
  143. [2011-11-04 22:45:43] <Arkeus> It's not a one-up currently
  144. [2011-11-04 22:45:50] <Arkeus> Well, when we sort out our stuff
  145. [2011-11-04 22:46:10] <Gunpowder_Symphony> Fuck 1ups
  146. [2011-11-04 22:46:20] <Arkeus> By the time your plan would be feasible, we'll have like 7 lives, as well as ability to regenerate things like heart without dying anyway
  147. [2011-11-04 22:46:25] <Gunpowder_Symphony> ^ ^ v v < > < > B A SELECT START is where it's fucking AT.
  148. [2011-11-04 22:46:31] <Shifter55> If we get killed we revive, but the damage remains. With redundant organs the damage doesn't mean as much.
  149. [2011-11-04 22:46:35] <Arkeus> no
  150. [2011-11-04 22:46:40] <Arkeus> the damage doesn't remain
  151. [2011-11-04 22:46:57] <BUTTZ> Yeah Gleb's organs returned and he coughed out the damaged stuff
  152. [2011-11-04 22:47:03] <Arkeus> We get killed, we regenerate up to two limbs and 3 organs
  153. [2011-11-04 22:47:07] <Shifter55> And it's pointless with our growth rate anyway.
  154. [2011-11-04 22:47:09] <Arkeus> right now, i mean
  155. [2011-11-04 22:47:25] <Shifter55> That's seperate to the reviving.
  156. [2011-11-04 22:47:29] <Arkeus> by the time we finish our bloodline, shooting our heart out won't kill us anyway
  157. [2011-11-04 22:47:34] <Ironybot> Do the organs include the heart? I ask because originally the heart was one of our major weaknesses.
  158. [2011-11-04 22:47:37] <Arkeus> and killing us would be just one life
  159. [2011-11-04 22:47:45] <BUTTZ> So this setting doesn't have Word magic does it?
  160. [2011-11-04 22:47:46] <Arkeus> Ironybot: i am pretty sure it does
  161. [2011-11-04 22:47:49] <Arkeus> will have to check
  162. [2011-11-04 22:47:59] <Arkeus> BUTTZ: probably does have it
  163. [2011-11-04 22:48:12] <BUTTZ> In GQ there was, what, Blood, Soul, World, Word, Belief, and Dream as the big ones
  164. [2011-11-04 22:48:16] <Arkeus> But i think it's branch of other magic
  165. [2011-11-04 22:48:27] <Arkeus> like branch of osul, or blood, orr.... but with words
  166. [2011-11-04 22:48:35] <BUTTZ> What else was there in GQ?
  167. [2011-11-04 22:48:42] <Arkeus> Life?
  168. [2011-11-04 22:48:44] <Arkeus> Flesh?
  169. [2011-11-04 22:48:52] <Arkeus> Magnetomancy?
  170. [2011-11-04 22:48:57] <Arkeus> Chronomancy?
  171. [2011-11-04 22:49:02] <Arkeus> Aeromancy?
  172. [2011-11-04 22:49:06] <Gunpowder_Symphony> At the rate Armas is going he'll be able to pioneer Troll Science
  173. [2011-11-04 22:49:07] <BUTTZ> The more esoteric stuff, right
  174. [2011-11-04 22:49:30] <Arkeus> But, yeah, our regen is going up anyway
  175. [2011-11-04 22:49:38] <Arkeus> We may have to choose to go hydra
  176. [2011-11-04 22:49:41] <Arkeus> for spirit animal
  177. [2011-11-04 22:49:48] <Arkeus> and it's easy to get, andrenewable
  178. [2011-11-04 22:49:53] <BUTTZ> Man I forgot Chaos
  179. [2011-11-04 22:49:54] <Arkeus> As if we die, we lose it
  180. [2011-11-04 22:50:05] <BUTTZ> The Chaos-Order balance
  181. [2011-11-04 22:50:07] <Arkeus> Order/chaos aren't magic, are they?
  182. [2011-11-04 22:50:19] <Arkeus> they are more... ways to use magic with other stuff
  183. [2011-11-04 22:50:31] <BUTTZ> They're something, Mordre's entire spell matrix was based around harnessing Chaos
  184. [2011-11-04 22:50:40] <Arkeus> Soul Chaos
  185. [2011-11-04 22:50:42] <BUTTZ> Yeah
  186. [2011-11-04 22:50:44] <Arkeus> Not Chaos
  187. [2011-11-04 22:50:50] <Arkeus> and Chaos Chronomancy
  188. [2011-11-04 22:51:53] <Arkeus> I think bob's playing with labombard/Hillevi first
  189. [2011-11-04 22:52:06] <Wutenheimer> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aWK7dsXvL4c
  190. [2011-11-04 22:52:07] <Classhole> Wutenheimer: Then i made minecraft 1000% cooler - length 3s - rated 4.28/5.0 (39) - 3524 views - BIGTHECAT69 on 2011.09.10
  191. [2011-11-04 22:52:29] <BUTTZ> Armas is so fucked up, a split-soul stuck halfway between the NeverNever and the Real, rebuilt into a complex bundling around soul scars from being struck by never-never strikes, a large portion of his soul that of a divine cannibal...
  192. [2011-11-04 22:52:55] <BUTTZ> Even Mordre would look at that and go "what the christ?"
  193. [2011-11-04 22:53:01] <BUTTZ> He'd then eat Armas
  194. [2011-11-04 22:53:04] <Arkeus> :D
  195. [2011-11-04 22:53:05] <BUTTZ> But he'd pause first
  196. [2011-11-04 22:53:08] <Arkeus> lol
  197. [2011-11-04 22:53:14] <Arkeus> Nah
  198. [2011-11-04 22:53:23] <Gunpowder_Symphony> "Needs mustard."
  199. [2011-11-04 22:53:26] <Arkeus> he'll say.. 'you are mad enough to be one of mine, aren't you?'
  200. [2011-11-04 22:53:29] <Arkeus> I mean
  201. [2011-11-04 22:53:37] <Arkeus> We have keddic pouring his whle soul out
  202. [2011-11-04 22:53:42] <Arkeus> Bang being, well, bang
  203. [2011-11-04 22:53:45] <BUTTZ> Mordre does seem to only employ the insane
  204. [2011-11-04 22:53:48] <Arkeus> and Ulzrick redacting his eys out
  205. [2011-11-04 22:54:03] <Ironybot> Mordre did make a habit of recruiting anyone sufficiently bizarre who wasn't actively killing his minions.
  206. [2011-11-04 22:54:23] <BUTTZ> How the fuck are we going to get out of the bind we're in, in GQ, anyway?
  207. [2011-11-04 22:54:29] <BUTTZ> "Lolz I'm an abomination dudes"
  208. [2011-11-04 22:54:31] <BUTTZ> "what"
  209. [2011-11-04 22:54:49] <Shifter55> With a PRESIDENTIAL ADDRESS.
  210. [2011-11-04 22:55:06] <Arkeus> -_-
  211. [2011-11-04 22:55:06] <BUTTZ> It was still premature for the reveal
  212. [2011-11-04 22:55:09] <Arkeus> We did that?
  213. [2011-11-04 22:55:10] <Arkeus> WHAT
  214. [2011-11-04 22:55:21] <BUTTZ> It's basically why Bob's paused it
  215. [2011-11-04 22:55:21] <Arkeus> I...must have missed that post
  216. [2011-11-04 22:55:25] <Ironybot> Massive Restricted ritual to rewrite the minds of everyone on the planet so that they think abominations are cool?
  217. [2011-11-04 22:55:47] <Arkeus> I prefer GfH anyway
  218. [2011-11-04 22:55:50] <Arkeus> But, yeah
  219. [2011-11-04 22:56:03] <Ironybot> If you change the way enough people think, the Belief magic makes it true. Mass mind control is therefore victory.
  220. [2011-11-04 22:56:29] <Ironybot> In any case, Guns for Hire is for more engaging at the moment than Golem Quest towards the end.
  221. [2011-11-04 22:56:38] <Ironybot> Far more. Excuse me.
  222. [2011-11-04 22:57:06] <Wutenheimer> :O I've got fluttershys running all over my screen :D
  223. [2011-11-04 22:57:15] <Gunpowder_Symphony> I like 'em both. But then, we all know I'm just here to make SCIENCE! and custom superweapons for whoever can afford my services.
  224. [2011-11-04 22:57:24] <Wutenheimer> 3 fillie fluttershys and 3 normal fluttershys
  225. [2011-11-04 22:57:52] <Wutenheimer> SO CUTE
  226. [2011-11-04 22:58:03] <Ironybot> You're using one of those desktop pet programs?
  227. [2011-11-04 22:58:34] <Gunpowder_Symphony> >Desktop SPYWARE programs
  228. [2011-11-04 22:58:37] <Gunpowder_Symphony> >ftfy
  229. [2011-11-04 22:59:27] <Arkeus> <Ironybot> In any case, Guns for Hire is for more engaging at the moment than Golem Quest towards the end. <= i never played GQ, so i wouldn't know
  230. [2011-11-04 22:59:28] <Ironybot> Look, everyone knows that all pets are secretly planted by someone interested in spying on you, or replaced by replicas which can serve that function shortly after acquisition. One doesn't need to specify.
  231. [2011-11-04 22:59:33] <Arkeus> but it seemed... like a stomp
  232. [2011-11-04 22:59:35] <Arkeus> by the end
  233. [2011-11-04 22:59:49] <Arkeus> I also like that we only have Armas
  234. [2011-11-04 22:59:51] <Wutenheimer> i dont even care yo
  235. [2011-11-04 22:59:52] |<-- A_Mad_Oyster has left irc.rizon.net (Quit: http://www.mibbit.com ajax IRC Client)
  236. [2011-11-04 22:59:54] <Arkeus> other important chars are NPC
  237. [2011-11-04 23:00:00] <Arkeus> or PC, if we believe Bob
  238. [2011-11-04 23:00:06] |<-- Guile has left irc.rizon.net (Quit: http://www.mibbit.com ajax IRC Client)
  239. [2011-11-04 23:00:10] -->| Guile (cgiirc@Rizon-7195BB4E.sd.sd.cox.net) has joined #golemquest
  240. [2011-11-04 23:00:16] <Arkeus> wb Guile
  241. [2011-11-04 23:00:21] <Arkeus> bob posted while you were out!
  242. [2011-11-04 23:00:25] <Arkeus> (lies)
  243. [2011-11-04 23:00:41] <Ironybot> Golem Quest didn't start getting secondary PCs until several threads in. Guns for Hire might yet reach that point.
  244. [2011-11-04 23:00:58] <Arkeus> i think third thread, really
  245. [2011-11-04 23:01:08] <Arkeus> and the hammer dude would have been one
  246. [2011-11-04 23:01:24] <Arkeus> And my problem with GQ istoo much rule of cool
  247. [2011-11-04 23:01:36] <Arkeus> Bob let if get away from him, i think
  248. [2011-11-04 23:01:45] <Ironybot> My problem with Golem Quest is power creep.
  249. [2011-11-04 23:01:54] <Arkeus> http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-c2hjpR603qU/TrR9k6q5XAI/AAAAAAAAR18/aA_DN55AN1s/s1600/80306+-+artist+lonewolfkait+luna.jpg hey Wutenheimer
  250. [2011-11-04 23:02:02] <Arkeus> Ironybot: that went with the rule of cool
  251. [2011-11-04 23:02:04] <Arkeus> and, yes
  252. [2011-11-04 23:02:16] <Arkeus> Ulzrick grew way too fast
  253. [2011-11-04 23:02:22] <Arkeus> and some things were.. doubtful
  254. [2011-11-04 23:02:34] <Wutenheimer> dawww cutey luna
  255. [2011-11-04 23:02:46] <Shifter55> Bloody Chaos Mote empowering...
  256. [2011-11-04 23:02:55] <Arkeus> Yeah
  257. [2011-11-04 23:03:01] <Arkeus> Also, going to sleep i think
  258. [2011-11-04 23:03:05] <Ironybot> Regardless, I have little interest in analyzing Golem Quest's flaws at the moment. We have an active game to worry about.
  259. [2011-11-04 23:03:14] <Arkeus> Someone pm me if bob/update comes (either/or)
  260. [2011-11-04 23:03:26] <Arkeus> Indeed
  261. [2011-11-04 23:05:34] <Wutenheimer> urg i hate squats SO MUCH
  262. [2011-11-04 23:05:52] <Wutenheimer> i cant walk anywhere
  263. [2011-11-04 23:23:31] <Arkeus> yeah, not gonna be able to sleep before update :-(
  264. [2011-11-04 23:24:04] <Ironybot> If there isn't one tonight, you'll just power through until tomorrow?
  265. [2011-11-04 23:24:54] <Arkeus> http://forums.spacebattles.com/showthread.php?t=204774&page=13 pony update, Wutenheimer, Guile
  266. [2011-11-04 23:25:00] <Arkeus> Ironybot: hopefully not
  267. [2011-11-04 23:25:03] <Wutenheimer> i saw
  268. [2011-11-04 23:25:06] <Wutenheimer> :3
  269. [2011-11-04 23:25:07] <Arkeus> but it's almosyt 6 am
  270. [2011-11-04 23:25:09] <Arkeus> so...
  271. [2011-11-04 23:25:45] <Wutenheimer> daww i've got a cute widdle sprite napping on my #golemquest
  272. [2011-11-04 23:26:20] <Ironybot> All right, I'll bite: What the heck am I reading on the other side of that link?
  273. [2011-11-04 23:26:33] <Wutenheimer> that's a D&DxMLP fic
  274. [2011-11-04 23:27:34] <Wutenheimer> i feel it really took a downturn when he admitted he was erik, him freaking the fuck out was the best part
  275. [2011-11-04 23:27:48] <Wutenheimer> ESPECIALLY when celestia was teasing him before he revealed
  276. [2011-11-04 23:28:47] <Arkeus> yeah, it's less good after that
  277. [2011-11-04 23:28:56] <Arkeus> i also dislike the rarity shipping
  278. [2011-11-04 23:29:05] <Arkeus> The cutie marc crusaders are cool though
  279. [2011-11-04 23:35:52] <Arkeus> http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-Z89TFcq-0Bg/TrR9_965zOI/AAAAAAAAR4k/1V_hMCHJXIc/s1600/the_parting_of_princesses_by_lionel23-d4ew0z8.jpg hey Wutenheimer
  280. [2011-11-04 23:36:58] <Wutenheimer> FUCK i hate the CMC
  281. [2011-11-04 23:37:08] <Wutenheimer> i hate them in the show i hate them in the fic
  282. [2011-11-04 23:37:28] <Arkeus> oh?
  283. [2011-11-04 23:37:44] <Wutenheimer> i want to stab them SO MUCH
  284. [2011-11-04 23:37:48] <Arkeus> heh
  285. [2011-11-04 23:37:55] <Wutenheimer> i HATE KIDS and they're KIDS ON CRACAK
  286. [2011-11-04 23:38:31] <Arkeus> Dammit, bob
  287. [2011-11-04 23:38:47] <Arkeus> going to lie down a bit
  288. [2011-11-04 23:47:10] <Ironybot> Hmm. Thinking about a conversation a while back about vampires being a product of a strengthened and exposed soul combined with a weakened body. We have soul sculpting abilities- think if we studied how vampires work for a bit we could use the same principles to come up with a way of enhancing people?
  289. [2011-11-04 23:47:18] -->| Samar_ (~mabinogi@Rizon-8D3F6048.hsd1.md.comcast.net) has joined #golemquest
  290. [2011-11-04 23:47:46] <Gunpowder_Symphony> Hey, if anyone's making artificial vampires it's gonna be the nazis.
  291. [2011-11-04 23:47:57] <Ironybot> I think we'd be better at it.
  292. [2011-11-04 23:48:05] <Gunpowder_Symphony> Heh
  293. [2011-11-04 23:48:45] <Gunpowder_Symphony> Well, I'm gonna call it a night and see about sleeping off this headache that's popped in on me. Later, y'all.
  294. [2011-11-04 23:48:48] |<-- Gunpowder_Symphony has left irc.rizon.net ()
  295. [2011-11-04 23:49:09] <Ironybot> Their big bruiser guy was entirely nonmagical, in spite of the fact that they could have made him much more effective with some magical enhancement, so it's a decent bet that the nazis aren't that into magical enhancement at all in my opinion.
  296. [2011-11-04 23:49:18] |<-- Samar has left irc.rizon.net (Ping timeout: 240 seconds)
  297. [2011-11-04 23:49:29] =-= Samar_ is now known as Samar
  298. [2011-11-04 23:49:53] <Shifter55> At least not on iving subjects.
  299. [2011-11-04 23:50:01] <Ironybot> Point.
  300. [2011-11-04 23:50:18] <Ironybot> But we... we have a couple ways of making normal people into magically-boosted powerhouses already.
  301. [2011-11-04 23:50:39] <Ironybot> This could be another one. Though I doubt it would be compatible with chakra enhancement.
  302. [2011-11-04 23:50:48] <Ironybot> Or chakra activation, rather.
  303. [2011-11-04 23:54:33] -->| Guile4Life (cgiirc@Rizon-7195BB4E.sd.sd.cox.net) has joined #golemquest
  304. [2011-11-04 23:54:44] <Arkeus> Ironybot, Chakra enhcanement or lesser soul enhancement
  305. [2011-11-04 23:54:53] |<-- Guile has left irc.rizon.net (Quit: http://www.mibbit.com ajax IRC Client)
  306. [2011-11-04 23:55:02] <Arkeus> by learnng chakra enhancement, we will gain some of the necessary grounding for soul enhancement
  307. [2011-11-04 23:55:12] <Ironybot> Lesser soul enhancement? What exactly would this consist of?
  308. [2011-11-04 23:55:13] =-= Guile4Life is now known as Guile
  309. [2011-11-04 23:55:27] <Guile> I have now taken over Guile's life - and all his power
  310. [2011-11-04 23:55:46] <Arkeus> yay
  311. [2011-11-04 23:55:52] <Ironybot> He had power worth taking? Or a life?
  312. [2011-11-04 23:55:57] <Arkeus> you can now lick Ironybot's boot
  313. [2011-11-04 23:56:02] <Arkeus> that was Guile's superpower
  314. [2011-11-04 23:56:16] <Guile> THAT's his superpower? What a gyp
  315. [2011-11-04 23:56:31] <Arkeus> Ironybot: by definition, chaka is limited soul manipulation
  316. [2011-11-04 23:56:33] <Ironybot> Don't be silly, Arkeus. That's not a superpower, it's a power available to all people everywhere if they but reach out and use it.
  317. [2011-11-04 23:57:02] <Arkeus> All it can do, Soul can do 'better', but Soul bloodlines are usually specialized in what domain of soul they are most able on
  318. [2011-11-04 23:57:15] <Ironybot> Yeah, I know that. The chakras are vented excess soul power or something.
  319. [2011-11-04 23:57:16] <Wutenheimer> i've got fluttershys sleeping all over my movie <3
  320. [2011-11-04 23:58:05] <Ironybot> The way that you phrased it, "chakra enhancement or lesser soul enhancement", made me think that there were two separate ways of enhancing our minions which you were referencing.
  321. [2011-11-04 23:58:06] <Guile> There's more form and structure with chakra, though. 'Soul manipulation' is almost too open a discipline for my comfort
  322. [2011-11-04 23:58:48] <Guile> Just... "Here's your soul! Now do something with it!" "Well, I'm real excited about that, but if you'd just tell me h-" "Do! Do forever!"
  323. [2011-11-04 23:58:48] <Arkeus> no, i meant that chakra enhancement is basically a lesser form of soul enhancement
  324. [2011-11-04 23:58:55] <Arkeus> Guile: eheheh
  325. [2011-11-04 23:59:13] <Arkeus> Chakra is VERY open
  326. [2011-11-04 23:59:15] <Arkeus> too
  327. [2011-11-04 23:59:29] <Ironybot> Ah. Well, yes, it is. That would be why I figured it would be incompatible with any kind of vampire-inspired soul enhancement that we can come up with, because that would be a rather drastic change the to soul.
  328. [2011-11-04 23:59:46] <Arkeus> That's what i don't get
  329. [2011-11-04 23:59:59] <Arkeus> Vampire-inspired soul enhancement is still soul enhancement
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