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  1. [09:22] Frost Dino: =]
  2. [09:22] Frost Dino: Rapture's Finest
  3. [09:22] Aurosis: what is this for
  4. [09:22] ElByFedexx: :)
  5. [09:22] Kokhrat: raptureeeee
  6. [09:22] Frost Dino: theres a thing called uhm
  7. [09:22] Frost Dino: piratepad.net
  8. [09:22] Kokhrat: its me vega
  9. [09:22] krookies: :D
  10. [09:23] Orphic: building with smash omastar Aurosis
  11. [09:23] Frost Dino: http://piratepad.net/LVNhSNuTfa
  12. [09:23] Kokhrat: ^^ hy all
  13. [09:23] Frost Dino: http://piratepad.net/LVNhSNuTfa
  14. [09:23] Frost Dino: http://piratepad.net/LVNhSNuTfa
  15. [09:23] Frost Dino: http://piratepad.net/LVNhSNuTfa
  16. [09:23] Aurosis: oh cool
  17. [09:23] Orphic: piratepad sucks
  18. [09:23] Frost Dino: use that its way easier
  19. [09:23] ElByFedexx: no
  20. [09:23] Frost Dino: =[
  21. [09:23] ElByFedexx: here we have commands such as
  22. [09:23] ElByFedexx: DS or Weakness
  23. [09:23] Frost Dino: fine
  24. [09:23] krookies: i don't trust that link lol
  25. [09:23] Orphic: krookies its just a group notepad
  26. [09:23] krookies: nah ya'll pirates tryin to steal meh loot
  27. [09:23] Frost Dino: oshet
  28. [09:23] Frost Dino: its
  29. Aurosis was promoted to Room Voice by Rapture's Finest.
  30. [09:23] Frost Dino: Orphic
  31. [09:24] Frost Dino: big fan =]
  32. [09:24] Orphic: :]
  33. [09:24] +Aurosis: o.o
  34. [09:24] Orphic: do you know me
  35. Orphic was promoted to Room Voice by Rapture's Finest.
  36. [09:24] Frost Dino: sorta kinda
  37. [09:24] ElByFedexx: so... voiced for all so we can voice dex?
  38. [09:24] ElByFedexx: or idk
  39. [09:24] Frost Dino: voice me
  40. [09:24] #Rapture's Finest: alright lets get this team going
  41. [09:24] Frost Dino: i wanna build around sash oma
  42. [09:24] krookies: don't voice me
  43. [09:24] Frost Dino: smash*
  44. [09:24] Kokhrat: ok rapture
  45. [09:24] Kokhrat: do you want to build offense?
  46. [09:24] ElByFedexx: So, are we building with Hazard Omastar?
  47. [09:24] Kokhrat: smash
  48. [09:24] +Orphic: no shell smash
  49. [09:24] #Rapture's Finest: I dont mind building offense, what about everyone else?
  50. [09:25] ElByFedexx: Or Shell Smash atk
  51. [09:25] Frost Dino: I vote Offense
  52. [09:25] krookies: smash hazard?
  53. [09:25] +Orphic: hm offense is hard in NU
  54. [09:25] +Aurosis: are we building around smash or lead omastar
  55. [09:25] #Rapture's Finest: smash
  56. [09:25] +Orphic: smash
  57. [09:25] Frost Dino: Smash
  58. [09:25] krookies: smash
  59. [09:25] +Aurosis: hm
  60. [09:25] Kokhrat: shiftry omstar
  61. [09:25] +Aurosis: lets try offense
  62. [09:25] Kokhrat: mesprit
  63. [09:25] +Orphic: yeah offense is ok, but as long as its fairly bulky
  64. [09:25] +Aurosis: we could go balance idc
  65. [09:25] ElByFedexx: I made an HO with oma i can paste if u want
  66. [09:26] krookies: so smash scald ice beam earth power?
  67. [09:26] ElByFedexx: Actually
  68. [09:26] +Aurosis: no
  69. [09:26] ElByFedexx: Maybe HP Electric
  70. [09:26] Frost Dino: Earthpower?
  71. [09:26] ElByFedexx: is better
  72. [09:26] +Aurosis: leave last slot open
  73. [09:26] Frost Dino: HP Electric
  74. [09:26] Frost Dino: what
  75. [09:26] +Aurosis: until we have rest of team figured out
  76. [09:26] +Orphic: last slot open
  77. [09:26] +Aurosis: :]
  78. [09:26] ElByFedexx: U know
  79. [09:26] Frost Dino: get this kid outta here
  80. [09:26] ElByFedexx: Manectric
  81. [09:26] +Orphic: so we know what the team needs
  82. [09:26] ElByFedexx: Ah manectric tha fuck
  83. [09:26] +Orphic: Frost Dino, hp elec for the likes of mantine
  84. [09:26] ElByFedexx: Mantine
  85. [09:26] #Rapture's Finest: is hydro better or scald
  86. [09:26] Kokhrat: surf
  87. [09:26] Kokhrat: obv
  88. [09:26] Kokhrat: for sweep
  89. [09:26] +Orphic: hm, i reckon hydro
  90. [09:26] krookies: hydro miss sucks
  91. [09:26] ElByFedexx: hmm
  92. [09:26] Frost Dino: Bruh HP Elec Oma is horrible
  93. [09:26] ElByFedexx: I prefer scald
  94. [09:26] +Aurosis: rapture hydro is typically better on smash i think
  95. [09:26] Kokhrat: if you want sweep than surf
  96. [09:26] Kokhrat: then*
  97. [09:26] +Aurosis: but only time will tell
  98. [09:27] krookies: i would rather run surf over hydro
  99. [09:27] ElByFedexx: What KO's changes with Hydro?
  100. [09:27] ElByFedexx: Yeah me too krookies
  101. [09:27] Kokhrat: non
  102. [09:27] +Aurosis: for an item
  103. [09:27] +Orphic: well it means you just hit harder
  104. [09:27] Kokhrat: only Koees like mesprit
  105. [09:27] Kokhrat: item white herb obv
  106. [09:27] +Aurosis: are you guys thinking LO/ Shuca/ or white herb
  107. [09:27] +Orphic: should we go shuca?
  108. [09:27] Kokhrat: shuca isnt good
  109. [09:27] Kokhrat: dont
  110. [09:27] +Aurosis: shuca is good
  111. [09:27] +Orphic: shuca is v good
  112. [09:27] +Aurosis: but i think white herb for now
  113. [09:27] ElByFedexx: White Herb
  114. [09:27] #Rapture's Finest: I'm feeling white herb
  115. [09:27] ElByFedexx: i think
  116. [09:27] +Aurosis: yh
  117. [09:27] krookies: white herb yeh
  118. [09:27] +Aurosis: weak armor?
  119. [09:28] +Aurosis: or even Swift swim
  120. [09:28] +Orphic: weak armor for sure
  121. [09:28] #Rapture's Finest: I put swift swim but I suppose it doesnt matter
  122. [09:28] +Orphic: its kinda not too importnt
  123. [09:28] ElByFedexx: actually if we're running white herb
  124. [09:29] #Rapture's Finest: does modest lose out on anything speed wise thats important?
  125. [09:29] +Aurosis: no
  126. [09:29] ElByFedexx: nah
  127. [09:29] +Orphic: shouldnt think so
  128. [09:29] +Aurosis: it still gets jump on swellow
  129. [09:29] ElByFedexx: not with +2 boost
  130. [09:29] +Orphic: we need the speed from timid
  131. [09:29] +Orphic: or jolly w/e
  132. [09:29] +Orphic: whichever one
  133. [09:29] krookies: i was assuming modest
  134. [09:29] +Aurosis: modest is preffered id say
  135. [09:30] +Orphic: ok
  136. [09:30] +Orphic: you're right it does jump swellow
  137. [09:30] Kokhrat: what does ++2 outspoeeds*
  138. [09:30] +Aurosis: mhm
  139. [09:30] +Orphic: do we jump sceptile?
  140. [09:30] +Aurosis: yes
  141. [09:30] +Orphic: good
  142. [09:30] +Aurosis: swellow outspeeds scep
  143. [09:30] +Aurosis: lol
  144. [09:30] +Orphic: huh
  145. [09:30] +Orphic: oh yeah
  146. [09:30] ElByFedexx: yep
  147. [09:30] krookies: but electrode tho
  148. [09:30] +Orphic: brain fart
  149. [09:30] +Orphic: thought swellow hit 350 fsr
  150. [09:30] +Aurosis: nah
  151. [09:30] ElByFedexx: hmm there's a think that he doesn't outspeed?
  152. [09:30] ElByFedexx: I think not
  153. [09:30] +Orphic: nope
  154. [09:31] +Orphic: since swellow is the fastest in the tier
  155. [09:31] ElByFedexx: It outspeeds all unboosted pokes
  156. [09:31] krookies: wow it even outspeeds max timid electrode with modest
  157. [09:31] +Orphic: ok so how do we want to go about this
  158. [09:31] +Orphic: find a partner?
  159. [09:31] +Aurosis: yes
  160. [09:31] LucianVega: yea, omstar wants gf
  161. [09:32] +Aurosis: i'm a little preoccupied rn
  162. [09:32] ElByFedexx: So we're running Surf and Ice
  163. [09:32] +Aurosis: so i may not be too useful
  164. [09:32] LucianVega: lets decide which gras mon
  165. [09:32] +Orphic: its ok, Rapture's Finest you there?
  166. [09:32] #Rapture's Finest: y
  167. [09:32] ElByFedexx: Shiftry, Scep or Lilligant
  168. [09:32] LucianVega: Rapture's Finest <3
  169. [09:32] #Rapture's Finest: so second mon?
  170. [09:32] ElByFedexx: i think main options
  171. [09:32] LucianVega: sceptile gives speed control
  172. [09:32] LucianVega: and is never a bad option
  173. [09:32] +Orphic: i have been pairing it with sceptile in some drafts
  174. [09:32] +Orphic: i kinda really like shiftry though
  175. [09:32] #Rapture's Finest: sceptile does pair well
  176. [09:32] LucianVega: so does shiftr
  177. [09:32] LucianVega: shiftry*
  178. [09:32] +Orphic: the knock off power just seems to look really nice on paper
  179. [09:32] ElByFedexx: both are really good
  180. [09:33] #Rapture's Finest: what shiftry set?
  181. [09:33] LucianVega: why dont we make rain team with smash omas
  182. [09:33] LucianVega: dat would be also pretty cool
  183. [09:33] +Orphic: life orb knock sucker leaf storm
  184. [09:33] ElByFedexx: We always can make two teams vega
  185. [09:33] +Orphic: defog / x scissor or something
  186. [09:33] LucianVega: hm, defog shiftry can be nice for moving hazards
  187. [09:33] #Rapture's Finest: we can do that after since rain teams arent complicated to make
  188. [09:33] LucianVega: if we run shiftry then defog will be nice on offense
  189. [09:34] #Rapture's Finest: I'm cool with that, beats using sceptile on every damn team
  190. [09:34] ElByFedexx: as we're not running hazard oma set
  191. [09:34] LucianVega: another thing to consider is
  192. [09:34] +Orphic: yeah i wanna change it up a bit
  193. [09:34] LucianVega: spinblocker
  194. [09:34] ElByFedexx: then defog shiftry
  195. [09:34] LucianVega: because
  196. [09:34] ElByFedexx: Mismagius
  197. [09:34] ElByFedexx: <3
  198. [09:34] LucianVega: omastar will give ohkoes after smash instead 2 koes
  199. [09:34] LucianVega: and sturdy sawk will stop its sweep
  200. [09:35] #Rapture's Finest: one thing i wanted to pair with oma was memento missy tbh
  201. [09:35] ElByFedexx: yeh we need to set rocks
  202. [09:35] krookies: yes rapture
  203. [09:35] +Orphic: memento missy could work
  204. [09:35] krookies: had the same thought
  205. [09:35] ElByFedexx: That's a nice idea actuallu
  206. [09:35] LucianVega: yes Rapture's Finest pls
  207. [09:35] LucianVega: thats good idea
  208. [09:35] LucianVega: !
  209. [09:35] krookies: !
  210. [09:35] +Orphic: ive been using
  211. [09:35] ElByFedexx: And shiftry covers missy
  212. [09:35] LucianVega: id go with
  213. [09:35] ElByFedexx: yeh i like it
  214. [09:35] +Orphic: wisp/hex/memento/magic coat
  215. [09:35] #Rapture's Finest: first lets wrap up this shiftry set
  216. [09:35] LucianVega: taunt hex wisp memento
  217. [09:35] +Orphic: but yeah taunt
  218. [09:36] +Orphic: that was just for fun
  219. [09:36] LucianVega: taunt from preventing hazard
  220. [09:36] +Orphic: ok Rapture's Finest
  221. [09:36] +Orphic: shiftry is knock off, leaf storm, sucker punch, defog
  222. [09:36] LucianVega: cuz omstar leads will be more comon
  223. [09:36] +Orphic: unless anyone has any objections
  224. [09:36] LucianVega: wel, dats nice standard set
  225. [09:36] LucianVega: no objection
  226. [09:36] #Rapture's Finest: what nature? Lonely?
  227. [09:36] ElByFedexx: Lonely Nature
  228. [09:36] LucianVega: yes
  229. [09:36] ElByFedexx: i suppose
  230. [09:36] +Orphic: it's max speed lonely
  231. [09:36] LucianVega: another thing to consider is
  232. [09:36] krookies: i put naive
  233. [09:36] LucianVega: skuntak
  234. [09:36] LucianVega: skuntank*
  235. [09:37] LucianVega: *just giving some options*
  236. [09:37] ElByFedexx: I think missy memento is better cuz if not we're so weak to sawk
  237. [09:37] +Orphic: if we go chlorophyll and swift swim on these two we have our weather checks too :D
  238. [09:37] ElByFedexx: yep
  239. [09:37] krookies: people don't run speed + on shift?
  240. [09:37] ElByFedexx: i used that habs Orphic
  241. [09:37] LucianVega: no krookies
  242. [09:37] LucianVega: we want strong priority
  243. [09:37] ElByFedexx: ^
  244. [09:37] ElByFedexx: he has sucker so
  245. [09:37] #Rapture's Finest: I like plus speed but the attack is nice here
  246. [09:38] LucianVega: .]
  247. [09:38] #Rapture's Finest: what spread on missy
  248. [09:38] ElByFedexx: So, we add missy as a third pk
  249. [09:38] krookies: alrighty then
  250. [09:38] ElByFedexx: hmm idk
  251. [09:38] +Orphic: we do need some speed control for sure
  252. [09:38] LucianVega: missy defensive
  253. [09:38] LucianVega: 252 speed 252 hp
  254. [09:38] ElByFedexx: hmm
  255. [09:38] LucianVega: colbur
  256. [09:38] LucianVega: cuz hariyama annoys our core
  257. [09:38] ElByFedexx: colbur 4 sure
  258. [09:38] LucianVega: but we can get fighting check later too
  259. [09:39] krookies: how bout hex wilo taunt memento?
  260. [09:39] ElByFedexx: EVs: 252 HP / 80 Def / 176 Spe
  261. [09:39] ElByFedexx: Hex-Wisp-Taunt-Memento
  262. [09:39] +Orphic: yeah krookies we already decided that
  263. [09:39] krookies: oh oops
  264. [09:39] +Orphic: what does that 80 defense do
  265. [09:40] ElByFedexx: bulk on def so you can set wisp i suppose
  266. [09:40] LucianVega: just adds a bit more bulk
  267. [09:40] %Disjunction: I'm hackign this joint
  268. [09:40] LucianVega: dis ^^
  269. [09:40] ElByFedexx: 176 it's for haunter non scarf and for jynx
  270. [09:41] +Orphic: i guess the speed just outspeeds base 95s
  271. [09:41] ElByFedexx: yep
  272. [09:41] LucianVega: we could consider a bit more speed to outspeed zard
  273. [09:41] ElByFedexx: hmm
  274. [09:41] ElByFedexx: with how many evs do we outspeed
  275. [09:41] +Orphic: 216 speed?
  276. [09:41] +Orphic: 40 in defense
  277. [09:41] krookies: at that point just run max
  278. [09:41] krookies: imo
  279. [09:41] LucianVega: we can Ev them later imo
  280. [09:42] ElByFedexx: 216+
  281. [09:42] ElByFedexx: 40def
  282. [09:42] #Rapture's Finest: being able to memento on zard could be fun
  283. [09:42] ElByFedexx: yeh
  284. [09:42] krookies: tru
  285. [09:42] ElByFedexx: zard max speed timid
  286. [09:42] ElByFedexx: has 328
  287. [09:42] +Orphic: i think it'll be a really good way to get omastar in
  288. [09:42] ElByFedexx: and our set is 330
  289. [09:42] LucianVega: yea, cuz
  290. [09:42] +Orphic: since zard will be so common
  291. [09:42] LucianVega: EQ zard wont do anything back to omastar
  292. [09:42] ElByFedexx: Hmm
  293. [09:42] LucianVega: Fblast will be a bit annoying
  294. [09:42] +Orphic: plus if we go shuca berry *-*
  295. [09:42] ElByFedexx: i guess solar beam power herb
  296. [09:42] LucianVega: na
  297. [09:43] LucianVega: solarbeam power herb isnt dat good
  298. [09:43] +Orphic: ok then rindp ;)
  299. [09:43] +Orphic: rindo
  300. [09:43] #Rapture's Finest: lol
  301. [09:43] LucianVega: white herb
  302. [09:43] LucianVega: is best
  303. [09:43] ElByFedexx: White Herb
  304. [09:43] +Orphic: yeah we've got white herb
  305. [09:43] LucianVega: because omastar have really high defense
  306. [09:43] +Orphic: so far we have
  307. [09:43] krookies: rindo would be funny
  308. [09:43] +Orphic: omastar, magius, shiftry
  309. [09:43] +Orphic: we need
  310. [09:43] LucianVega: and not getting killed by sucker punch is nice
  311. [09:43] +Orphic: rocks, speed control
  312. [09:43] +Orphic: better fire check
  313. [09:43] LucianVega: mesprit for rocks
  314. [09:43] LucianVega: or
  315. [09:43] #Rapture's Finest: we need some rocks yeah
  316. [09:43] LucianVega: mesprit with colbu and healing wish
  317. [09:43] ElByFedexx: oh yes
  318. [09:43] +Orphic: vibrava works here js
  319. [09:43] ElByFedexx: healing wish
  320. [09:44] ElByFedexx: or actually
  321. [09:44] ElByFedexx: we can remove defog shiftry
  322. [09:44] +Orphic: D:
  323. [09:44] +Orphic: no
  324. [09:44] krookies: never!
  325. [09:44] ElByFedexx: and put claydol rapid spin
  326. [09:44] LucianVega: nah
  327. [09:44] krookies: no
  328. [09:44] +Orphic: claydol is really gonna struggle
  329. [09:44] LucianVega: claydol is passive
  330. [09:44] LucianVega: in Ho
  331. [09:44] +Orphic: with zard and omastar
  332. [09:44] ElByFedexx: well then :P
  333. [09:44] +Orphic: we want momentum too
  334. [09:44] +Orphic: this is offense
  335. [09:45] +Orphic: i suggest a mesprit or a xatu for fighting check
  336. [09:45] LucianVega: mesprit
  337. [09:45] +Orphic: with u-turn
  338. [09:45] LucianVega: xatu is horrible fighting check imo
  339. [09:45] +Orphic: its also worth pointing out we have nothing to stop volt switches and skuntank actually destroys us
  340. [09:45] krookies: can we get a volt switch absorber
  341. [09:45] +Orphic: ^
  342. [09:45] ElByFedexx: Lanturn
  343. [09:45] #Rapture's Finest: we could try steelix
  344. [09:45] LucianVega: eh
  345. [09:45] +Orphic: so mesprit is fine, but we need something like rhydon too
  346. [09:45] #Rapture's Finest: for rocks
  347. [09:46] +Orphic: steelix works for me here
  348. [09:46] ElByFedexx: rhydon rock polish
  349. [09:46] ElByFedexx: maybe
  350. [09:46] krookies: yo stunfisk
  351. [09:46] krookies: ehh, ehh?
  352. [09:46] ElByFedexx: oh he learns rocks
  353. [09:47] #Rapture's Finest: stunfisk lmao
  354. [09:47] +Orphic: Rapture's Finest i like steelix here, stops volt switches, gives rocks, and a normal resist
  355. [09:47] +Orphic: that's fine by me, archeops check too
  356. [09:47] +Orphic: as well as skuntank
  357. [09:47] krookies: but stunfisk checks archeops :[
  358. [09:48] +Orphic: now we are struggling vs magmortar a teensie bit
  359. [09:48] +Orphic: also what evs for steelix i never know
  360. [09:48] ElByFedexx: golurk plz
  361. [09:48] #Rapture's Finest: we could try the standard defensive set or a more offensive steelix
  362. [09:48] ElByFedexx: hmm
  363. [09:49] +Orphic: hm, not sure whether i want defensive since this is meant to be offense
  364. [09:49] +Orphic: i'm leaning towards a more offensive set
  365. [09:49] krookies: but lanturn is going to be so common, plus zard, ugh i hate steelix
  366. [09:49] ElByFedexx: EVs: 244 HP / 136 Atk / 128 SpD
  367. [09:49] +Orphic: but still withr ocks
  368. [09:49] +Orphic: rocks*
  369. [09:49] ElByFedexx: the standar one
  370. [09:49] +Orphic: its fine check this calc
  371. [09:49] LucianVega: ive been using
  372. [09:49] +Orphic: 252+ Atk Life Orb Shiftry Sucker Punch vs. 0 HP / 4 Def Charizard: 191-226 (64.3 - 76%) -- guaranteed 2HKO
  373. [09:49] +Orphic: plus rocks
  374. [09:49] +Orphic: ez
  375. Silver Aurum was promoted to Room Voice by Rapture's Finest.
  376. [09:50] ElByFedexx: oh wow
  377. [09:50] ElByFedexx: that is dmg
  378. [09:50] +Orphic: guys what are your thoughts about steelix being offensive
  379. [09:50] ElByFedexx: idk
  380. [09:50] #Rapture's Finest: what does offensive lix run
  381. [09:50] +Orphic: i wanna run some calcs vs xatu quick
  382. [09:50] LucianVega: i used steelix offensive today
  383. [09:50] LucianVega: and
  384. [09:50] LucianVega: its prety cool
  385. [09:50] +Orphic: iron head
  386. [09:50] +Orphic: earthquake
  387. [09:50] LucianVega: iron tail!
  388. [09:50] +Orphic: no
  389. [09:50] LucianVega: thnderfang
  390. [09:50] +Orphic: i'm not missing
  391. [09:50] krookies: lets use automize lix then :P
  392. [09:50] LucianVega: thunderfang
  393. [09:50] ElByFedexx: What moveset and ev spread?¿
  394. [09:50] LucianVega: 252 hp 252 atk
  395. [09:51] LucianVega: if sheer force lo
  396. [09:51] LucianVega: actually nvm, adding speed is good
  397. [09:51] +Orphic: i mean, not automize since +2 lix still doesnt outspeed anything
  398. [09:51] krookies: :[
  399. [09:51] +Orphic: but i was thinking
  400. [09:51] +Orphic: life orb sheer force
  401. [09:51] +Orphic: rocks
  402. [09:51] +Orphic: eq, iron head, fire fang
  403. [09:51] +Orphic: since we have nothing for ferroseed god forbid we face one
  404. [09:52] #Rapture's Finest: how much speed should lix run
  405. [09:52] krookies: just tunt burn it
  406. [09:52] krookies: taunt*
  407. [09:52] #Rapture's Finest: lets leave the last slot open, till we finish the team
  408. [09:52] +Orphic: mhm
  409. [09:52] ElByFedexx: so, can you paste that steelix? xp
  410. [09:52] +Orphic: 176 speed hits 140
  411. [09:53] +Orphic: but lanturns are running way more nowadays
  412. [09:53] +Orphic: is offensive rhydon better here?
  413. [09:53] +Orphic: rocks, eq, rock blast, rock polish
  414. [09:53] ElByFedexx: i said that
  415. [09:53] krookies: i'd rather see don than lix
  416. [09:53] ElByFedexx: run wp
  417. [09:54] krookies: lol
  418. [09:54] +Aurosis: what does team look like so far
  419. [09:54] krookies: star shift mismag
  420. [09:54] +Orphic: offensive defog shiftry
  421. [09:54] +Orphic: omastar
  422. [09:54] +Orphic: taunt memento magius
  423. [09:54] +Orphic: now considering an offensive rocks steelix
  424. [09:54] +Aurosis: thats cool
  425. [09:54] LucianVega: if we runnin a
  426. [09:54] LucianVega: steelix shifrty omsatar
  427. [09:54] LucianVega: and misssy is only fighting check
  428. [09:54] LucianVega: Rip
  429. [09:55] +Orphic: ok scrap steelix
  430. [09:55] #Rapture's Finest: yeah
  431. [09:55] LucianVega: mesprit
  432. [09:55] LucianVega: imo
  433. [09:55] +Orphic: maybe mesprit for rocks, checks fighting types, then a lanturn/rhydon to block volt switching
  434. [09:55] LucianVega: i mean, theres really not many options
  435. [09:55] LucianVega: rhydon is bad for blocking volt switch
  436. [09:55] +Orphic: we can beat malamar this way too
  437. [09:56] +Orphic: rocks / utrun / psychic / sbeam
  438. [09:56] LucianVega: gets burned by rotom or scalded by lant
  439. [09:56] +Orphic: yn
  440. [09:56] krookies: unless we run rocks 3 attacks claydol, ut i'm guessing ur gonna say no
  441. [09:57] krookies: cuz claydol kinda sucs in general
  442. [09:57] LucianVega: rocks claydol is terrible
  443. [09:57] LucianVega: and people use it so much for some reason
  444. [09:57] +Orphic: thats ass
  445. [09:57] ElByFedexx: so
  446. [09:57] +Orphic: gonna make some food
  447. [09:57] ElByFedexx: how it's team looking
  448. [09:57] +Orphic: make some progress pls
  449. [09:58] #Rapture's Finest: ok so with mes on the team, some kind of electric immune would be nice
  450. [09:58] krookies: can we run whirlpool lanturn?
  451. [09:58] LucianVega: AV lanturn
  452. [09:59] LucianVega: wait nvm let me check teambvuilder
  453. [09:59] krookies: because lanturn is a problem
  454. [10:00] +Orphic: guys first
  455. [10:00] +Orphic: spread for mesprit?
  456. [10:00] +Orphic: and do you approve the set
  457. [10:00] #Rapture's Finest: offensive rocks mes imo
  458. [10:00] krookies: ^
  459. [10:00] +Orphic: sounds good
  460. [10:00] +Orphic: what set
  461. [10:00] ElByFedexx: yep
  462. [10:01] ElByFedexx: i'm back
  463. [10:01] +Orphic: i kinda want this to check malamar so signal beam, rocks, psychic
  464. [10:01] +Orphic: what do you want for the final move, u-turn, tbolt or hp fire
  465. [10:01] #Rapture's Finest: I like uturn
  466. [10:01] +Silver Aurum: Do you already have ways of pressuring Xatu
  467. [10:02] ElByFedexx: i like u-turn 4 momentum
  468. [10:02] krookies: i'd rather run more coverage
  469. [10:02] +Orphic: Silver Aurum, not really, we have mismagius and shiftry
  470. [10:02] +Orphic: which do not count
  471. [10:02] krookies: ice beam, eball, tbolt
  472. [10:02] +Orphic: when magius can just memento it
  473. [10:02] +Orphic: and it can beat shiftry 1v1
  474. [10:02] +Silver Aurum: If you're running offensive I would recommend a way of getting rocks vs xatu
  475. [10:03] +Silver Aurum: but that's just me
  476. [10:03] #Rapture's Finest: I'll put t bolt for now
  477. [10:03] +Silver Aurum: as in running ice beam/tbolt
  478. [10:03] LucianVega: pinsir also can be defenc rocker
  479. [10:03] LucianVega: decent*
  480. [10:04] +Orphic: no we're going with mes
  481. [10:04] +Orphic: he means just having a way for mes to beat xatu
  482. [10:04] krookies: ev's?
  483. [10:04] #Rapture's Finest: max speed and sp atk
  484. [10:05] LucianVega: :I
  485. [10:05] +Orphic: timid or modest
  486. [10:05] LucianVega: timid ofc
  487. [10:05] #Rapture's Finest: I put timid
  488. [10:05] krookies: i think that's good
  489. [10:05] +Orphic: :]
  490. [10:06] +Silver Aurum: What do you guys have so far
  491. [10:06] +Silver Aurum: If I may ask
  492. [10:06] LucianVega: i have lasagne for lunch
  493. [10:06] +Orphic: shiftry, omastar, mismagius, mesprit
  494. [10:06] LucianVega: so far
  495. [10:07] LucianVega: we need fire check too
  496. [10:07] LucianVega: everything gets beat by magmortar before setup
  497. [10:07] LucianVega: except shifrty
  498. [10:07] ElByFedexx: hmm
  499. [10:07] #Rapture's Finest: http://hastebin.com/jecupevelo.md - here you go silver
  500. [10:07] LucianVega: :I
  501. [10:07] #Rapture's Finest: umm yeah a fire check would be cool
  502. [10:07] LucianVega: ^^ lets get options
  503. [10:08] ElByFedexx: hmm
  504. [10:08] krookies: how about lanturn and physical zard for last two
  505. [10:08] ElByFedexx: magmortar is a big threat
  506. [10:09] +Orphic: i still think lanturn fits this team really well
  507. [10:09] +Orphic: voltturn core with mes
  508. [10:09] LucianVega: AV lant
  509. [10:09] +Orphic: grabs momentum, checks fire types
  510. [10:09] +Orphic: av is good for me
  511. [10:10] LucianVega: ive been using AV these days and its pretty good
  512. [10:10] LucianVega: not the strongest but its enough
  513. [10:10] krookies: i'm think a more defensive lefties lanturn
  514. [10:10] +Orphic: what evs
  515. [10:10] LucianVega: another thing thats gonna be annoying is something like specs sceptile
  516. [10:10] LucianVega: or sub SD
  517. [10:10] krookies: or any sceptile
  518. [10:10] krookies: dang
  519. [10:11] #Rapture's Finest: If we run lanturn we'll def need like a scarfer or smth in that last slot
  520. [10:11] +Orphic: we'll need a sceptile check as our last
  521. [10:11] AweKartik777: hmm what about Zard then ? Should do well against Scept unless Rock slide
  522. [10:11] +Orphic: i'm thinking sceptile check + fire check then a scarfer
  523. [10:11] +Orphic: maybe a magmortar
  524. [10:11] +Orphic: although eq exists
  525. [10:11] LucianVega: ill brb my chrome is lagging so bad :(
  526. [10:11] LucianVega: magmortar isnt best check
  527. [10:11] LucianVega: it gets ohkoed by EQ after rocks
  528. [10:12] ElByFedexx: hmm
  529. [10:12] ElByFedexx: it's hard xD
  530. [10:13] #Rapture's Finest: smth like Flame charge mag + a scarfer that check scep could work
  531. [10:13] +Orphic: jaja
  532. [10:14] krookies: we really need something that's physical
  533. [10:15] krookies: ok how about scarf tauros?
  534. [10:15] krookies: plus the mortar
  535. [10:17] #Rapture's Finest: Scarf tauros can work but we should run u turn on mes if we do that
  536. [10:17] +Orphic: i think we need tbolt on mes
  537. [10:18] #Rapture's Finest: since being able to pivot is nice
  538. [10:18] +Orphic: but that's true also
  539. [10:18] #Rapture's Finest: hmm
  540. [10:18] LucianVega: back
  541. [10:18] +Orphic: unless we add like
  542. [10:18] +Orphic: SD rotter
  543. [10:18] +Orphic: with megahorn for malamar
  544. [10:18] +Orphic: and then u-turn on mesprit
  545. [10:18] LucianVega: n
  546. [10:18] #Rapture's Finest: I'll leave it as is
  547. [10:18] LucianVega: SD rot needs its own support
  548. [10:18] krookies: i kinda like sd rott
  549. [10:19] LucianVega: espeically in this meta
  550. [10:19] #Rapture's Finest: so scarf tauros?
  551. [10:19] LucianVega: over?
  552. [10:19] +Orphic: sure
  553. [10:19] #Rapture's Finest: as our last
  554. [10:20] LucianVega: ok
  555. [10:21] ElByFedexx: So
  556. [10:21] krookies: i guess that's it
  557. [10:21] #Rapture's Finest: also another thing i think might be worth running is dual status Missy, thoughts?
  558. [10:21] LucianVega: n
  559. [10:21] krookies: i want taunt
  560. [10:21] ElByFedexx: Hmm i think actual set is better cuz of taunt
  561. [10:21] LucianVega: it wont really help much
  562. [10:21] +Orphic: i like the sound of that
  563. [10:22] ElByFedexx: So, what if we build a rain team with smash omastar?
  564. [10:22] +Orphic: woah lets finish this first
  565. [10:22] +Orphic: and put a pastebin out
  566. [10:22] krookies: twave has some benefits tho idk
  567. [10:22] #Rapture's Finest: I'll slash it when I post the team
  568. [10:22] LucianVega: i think taunt missy is beter to prevent setup
  569. [10:22] +Aurosis: rapture
  570. [10:23] +Aurosis: what did the team e nd up being oo
  571. [10:23] LucianVega: taunt also to prevent hazards
  572. [10:23] #Rapture's Finest: http://hastebin.com/ecazaginuv.md
  573. [10:23] LucianVega: and not let shiftry get presued to defog
  574. [10:23] #Rapture's Finest: first team oo
  575. [10:23] ElByFedexx: i like it
  576. [10:23] ElByFedexx: I have similar team
  577. [10:23] LucianVega: eq magmortar to check fire
  578. [10:24] LucianVega: i mean we use magmortar as fire check so it would be better to have it on set
  579. [10:24] ElByFedexx: ye
  580. [10:24] ElByFedexx: Instead of HP Grass
  581. [10:24] LucianVega: n
  582. [10:24] ElByFedexx: or t-bolt
  583. [10:24] #Rapture's Finest: ok, took out flame charge
  584. [10:25] ElByFedexx: sad
  585. [10:25] LucianVega: its because
  586. [10:25] LucianVega: we pivot into scarf tauros on Eq
  587. [10:25] LucianVega: and with intimidate
  588. [10:25] LucianVega: they will do 0
  589. [10:25] LucianVega: and we can have pursuit in tauros
  590. [10:25] ElByFedexx: pursuit instead of...?
  591. [10:25] LucianVega: faca
  592. [10:25] ElByFedexx: Facade right?
  593. [10:25] +Aurosis: why EP over AP?
  594. [10:25] LucianVega: we have scald absorber and wisp absorber
  595. [10:25] +Aurosis: on star
  596. [10:26] krookies: ap?
  597. [10:26] LucianVega: ancient
  598. [10:26] ElByFedexx: Ancient
  599. [10:26] +Aurosis: ancient power
  600. [10:26] #Rapture's Finest: thats just what I put
  601. [10:26] LucianVega: drop facade to pursuit
  602. [10:26] LucianVega: on tauros
  603. [10:26] krookies: what does that hit?
  604. [10:26] LucianVega: it will force many switches
  605. [10:26] krookies: ap i mean
  606. [10:27] #Rapture's Finest: ok I think this team is done
  607. [10:27] LucianVega: rapture :i
  608. [10:27] ElByFedexx: you know i rlly want to build a Rain xp
  609. [10:27] #Rapture's Finest: time for a cancer rain team
  610. [10:27] LucianVega: will u put pursuit over facae?
  611. [10:28] +Aurosis: specs omastar in rain
  612. [10:28] +Aurosis: is hot
  613. [10:28] #Rapture's Finest: I put it over zen headbutt
  614. [10:28] LucianVega: ^3
  615. [10:28] LucianVega: ^^*
  616. [10:28] LucianVega: ok
  617. [10:28] ElByFedexx: hmm i think smash is better maybe?
  618. [10:28] LucianVega: i mentioned facade cuz we have burn and scald absorbers
  619. [10:28] #Rapture's Finest: yeah specs works
  620. [10:28] LucianVega: ludicol+omastar
  621. [10:29] LucianVega: mesprit as rocker
  622. [10:29] #Rapture's Finest: ap / ice beam / hydro and earth power?
  623. [10:29] LucianVega: liepard obv
  624. [10:29] LucianVega: yepp
  625. [10:29] LucianVega: we can also run
  626. [10:29] LucianVega: hydro+scald
  627. [10:29] ElByFedexx: are we using him with specs?
  628. [10:29] LucianVega: ancienpower wont offer much coverage
  629. [10:29] krookies: ^
  630. [10:29] LucianVega: so having reliable water move will help more
  631. [10:29] krookies: definitley rather have scald
  632. [10:30] #Rapture's Finest: kk
  633. [10:30] LucianVega: colo for another abuser?
  634. [10:30] krookies: every rain team needs colo
  635. [10:31] ElByFedexx: i got lost xD
  636. [10:32] #Rapture's Finest: what does mesprit run on rain?
  637. [10:32] Kokhrat: roks psychic u turn rain dance
  638. [10:32] Kokhrat: ^3
  639. [10:32] krookies: rain psychic rocks healing wish
  640. [10:32] krookies: or that
  641. [10:32] Kokhrat: u turn
  642. [10:32] Kokhrat: is always nice
  643. [10:32] ElByFedexx: hmm
  644. [10:32] +Silver Aurum: did you guys shift to rain while Iw as gone >_>
  645. [10:32] #Rapture's Finest: y
  646. [10:33] krookies: yep :]
  647. [10:33] #Rapture's Finest: we finished the first team
  648. [10:33] ElByFedexx: So
  649. [10:33] Kokhrat: my lader oponent has beheyem
  650. [10:33] ElByFedexx: let's start xD
  651. [10:34] #Rapture's Finest: http://hastebin.com/adakayuqug.md - heres what i have
  652. [10:34] ElByFedexx: So, we're running Liepard Rain - Encore - Knock - T-Wave/U-Turn right
  653. [10:35] #Rapture's Finest: mhm
  654. [10:35] Kokhrat: Rapture's Finest
  655. [10:35] Kokhrat: put defensive mesprit
  656. [10:35] Kokhrat: a bit more bulk
  657. [10:35] krookies: ^
  658. [10:35] #Rapture's Finest: give me a spread
  659. [10:35] Kokhrat: uh
  660. [10:35] krookies: ~analysis mesprit
  661. [10:35] Kokhrat: i dont think its there
  662. [10:36] Kokhrat: yea the one with 16 speed and max hpp
  663. [10:36] krookies: 252, 240 def, 16 speed
  664. [10:36] #Rapture's Finest: I just put the bulky spread
  665. [10:36] Kokhrat: you can put like
  666. [10:36] Kokhrat: 252 hp 252 speed
  667. [10:36] Kokhrat: but i like bulky Bold one
  668. [10:37] #Rapture's Finest: ok so two more slots to work with
  669. [10:37] ElByFedexx: we need a physical sweeper
  670. [10:38] #Rapture's Finest: maybe poliwrath?
  671. [10:39] ElByFedexx: i was thinking about it
  672. [10:39] ElByFedexx: cuz i don't want to use same types as omastar
  673. [10:39] ElByFedexx: and he gets Dark Psyquic Fight
  674. [10:39] Kokhrat: maybe we can use
  675. [10:39] #Rapture's Finest: it pairs well with our rain setters as well
  676. [10:39] Kokhrat: sweeper that isnt swift swim
  677. [10:39] #Rapture's Finest: that can be the last slot
  678. [10:40] ElByFedexx: Yeh
  679. [10:40] ElByFedexx: Poliwrath is the best options rn
  680. [10:40] Kokhrat: bDRUM then!
  681. [10:40] ElByFedexx: option*
  682. [10:41] #Rapture's Finest: ok, what should be our last?
  683. [10:41] Kokhrat: wow this guy has fire blast muk and it booped me
  684. [10:41] ElByFedexx: wait
  685. [10:41] ElByFedexx: what set for poliwrath
  686. [10:41] Kokhrat: belly drum
  687. [10:41] Kokhrat: water fal
  688. [10:41] Kokhrat: brick break ice punh
  689. [10:41] Kokhrat: or Ecnroe
  690. [10:41] Kokhrat: Encore*
  691. [10:42] #Rapture's Finest: I put a life orb 4 attacks set
  692. [10:42] ElByFedexx: Maybe we can use
  693. [10:42] ElByFedexx: PuP
  694. [10:42] Kokhrat: n
  695. [10:42] Kokhrat: id have a setup sweeper O: if we run specs omastar
  696. [10:43] ElByFedexx: 96 hp, 160 speed 252 atk?
  697. [10:44] #Rapture's Finest: ill post the set in a bit just want to finish the rest of the team
  698. [10:44] Kokhrat: ok
  699. [10:45] #Rapture's Finest: any ideas?
  700. [10:45] LucianVega: for last mon?
  701. [10:45] ElByFedexx: hmm
  702. [10:45] ElByFedexx: last mon...
  703. [10:45] LucianVega: oh
  704. [10:46] LucianVega: so
  705. [10:46] LucianVega: mesprit colo omastar wrath liepard
  706. [10:46] #Rapture's Finest: y
  707. [10:46] ElByFedexx: yep
  708. [10:46] LucianVega: rotom fan/peli
  709. [10:47] ElByFedexx: ye i was thinking peli
  710. [10:47] #Rapture's Finest: I like scarf fan tbh
  711. [10:47] LucianVega: yes
  712. [10:47] LucianVega: scarf fan
  713. [10:47] LucianVega: with thunder
  714. [10:47] ElByFedexx: scarf fan
  715. [10:47] ElByFedexx: yes
  716. [10:47] ElByFedexx: i like it
  717. [10:47] LucianVega: also thats another thing to check fihgintg mons
  718. [10:47] LucianVega: rip spelling
  719. [10:47] ElByFedexx: fihgintg
  720. [10:47] ElByFedexx: gg
  721. [10:49] ElByFedexx: Are we running Trick?
  722. [10:49] LucianVega: sure
  723. [10:49] #Rapture's Finest: http://hastebin.com/vivukurulo.md - any last changes?
  724. [10:49] ElByFedexx: Change Volt switch
  725. [10:49] ElByFedexx: and put thunder
  726. [10:49] ElByFedexx: i think
  727. [10:49] LucianVega: no
  728. [10:49] LucianVega: keep vswitch
  729. [10:50] LucianVega: change poliwrath power up to bdrum and eq to brick break
  730. [10:50] LucianVega: eq wont hit anything except garbod
  731. [10:50] ElByFedexx: i have it with bdrum and brick break
  732. [10:50] +Silver Aurum: mfw power up punch poliwrath
  733. [10:50] +Silver Aurum: cash
  734. [10:50] LucianVega: i remmeber using
  735. [10:50] #Rapture's Finest: everything else the same?
  736. [10:51] LucianVega: AV poliwrath XD
  737. [10:51] LucianVega: it was pretty fun
  738. [10:51] LucianVega: yes rapture
  739. [10:51] LucianVega: oh and colo
  740. [10:51] LucianVega: change focus blast into rain dance/surf
  741. [10:51] LucianVega: and put liepard Evs spread into 252 hp 252 speed
  742. [10:52] #Rapture's Finest: ok
  743. [10:52] ElByFedexx: http://hastebin.com/qegaviloha.md
  744. [10:53] Kokhrat: our rotom fan will be our soft sceptile check as well
  745. [10:55] #Rapture's Finest: http://hastebin.com/ehubijizog.md - there you go
  746. [10:56] Kokhrat: yes rapture ^3
  747. [10:56] #Rapture's Finest: ok good work guys n_n
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